Babar again and the coach need to be blamed if they played an unfit player when the likes of Hasnain and Wasim were warming the bench. Ya know Shaheen may not have bowled too well but scored more runs then Babar and Nawaz combined. Our strike bowler if fit would rightfully be one of the first picks. It is Nawaz who is very replaceable and should lose his place for the next match.
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[VIDEO] "We didn't lose because of one person, we lost as a team": Babar Azam's speech to his team
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Babar again and the coach need to be blamed if they played an unfit player when the likes of Hasnain and Wasim were warming the bench. Ya know Shaheen may not have bowled too well but scored more runs then Babar and Nawaz combined. Our strike bowler if fit would rightfully be one of the first picks. It is Nawaz who is very replaceable and should lose his place for the next match.
Are you sure that you watched the same game?
Exactly!!! Both Saqlain and Babar don't deserve to be head coach and captain. This Saqlain is even worse than Misbah. At least Misbah maintained fitness and tried his best which was not good enough but Saqlain is all talk that people want to hear.
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I thought it was a good speech and aimed at making Nawaz feel less terrible - he looked depressed as hell there.
As an aside, always thought Babar was a fit guy. What's up with his waist seemingly idolizing Rohit Sharma's belly
As an aside, always thought Babar was a fit guy. What's up with his waist seemingly idolizing Rohit Sharma's belly
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A terrible takeaway from this is, he intends to keep throwing Nawaz into the last over
Even the greatest spinners never consistently bowled the final over of a chase. Swann flat out refused to bowl during the powerplays even when the situation begged for him to do so.
Even the greatest spinners never consistently bowled the final over of a chase. Swann flat out refused to bowl during the powerplays even when the situation begged for him to do so.
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Agree with this at the end of the day.
We’ll criticize him after the game and after this tournament if he is responsible, but until then, let’s back him and whoever takes the field.
As for Nawaz. He’s shown what he’s capable of before, and will grow from this.
Ben Stokes produced the worst over in a t20 final to lose England the game Vs WI, and then went on to playing an important role in the final overs of England lifting the ODI WC. He had a taste of pressure by then.
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Not a big fan of dressing room videos.
It helps control the narrative I suppose, which in Pakistan is important.
But there is no space for such contrived nonsense in sport in my opinion. Dressing room is sacrosanct and whatever happens there, must stay there.
Stop it Babar. Focus on the next game.
It helps control the narrative I suppose, which in Pakistan is important.
But there is no space for such contrived nonsense in sport in my opinion. Dressing room is sacrosanct and whatever happens there, must stay there.
Stop it Babar. Focus on the next game.
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If we lost due to any single person, it is the captain himself that's the culprit. Hasn't learnt from history that bowling a spinner in the last over is a no go. Could've used the spinners earlier in the power play and could've given Iftikhar an over. The type of game he was having, it could've been a good move. Also what was up with having Shaheen bowl around the wicket in his last over?
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Isn't it quite obvious that you always lose as a team in a team game? 
Pakistan need to seriously think about the point of playing both Asif and Haider ali in the team, coming good once in 15 innings is not good enough. This is a national team and you cannot have a free ticket in the side for so long, this is serious.
Playing Wasim at No. 8 in a 4 man pace attack can do a lot of good for Pakistan. Every top team has a bowler who can bat a bit coming in at No. 8, Pakistan have Asif Ali
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Pakistan need to seriously think about the point of playing both Asif and Haider ali in the team, coming good once in 15 innings is not good enough. This is a national team and you cannot have a free ticket in the side for so long, this is serious.
Playing Wasim at No. 8 in a 4 man pace attack can do a lot of good for Pakistan. Every top team has a bowler who can bat a bit coming in at No. 8, Pakistan have Asif Ali
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Isn't it quite obvious that you always lose as a team in a team game?
Pakistan need to seriously think about the point of playing both Asif and Haider ali in the team, coming good once in 15 innings is not good enough. This is a national team and you cannot have a free ticket in the side for so long, this is serious.
Playing Wasim at No. 8 in a 4 man pace attack can do a lot of good for Pakistan. Every top team has a bowler who can bat a bit coming in at No. 8, Pakistan have Asif Ali
Hafeez, Salman Butt, Moin Khan, Aqib Javed and Co all lashed out at the lack of standards and accountability where they have never seen 4-5 players in the team being given a blind long rope for so long for 20-25 games in a row with totally inconsistent to non existent performances and how during their time if you didn't perform in 2-3 games, you would get benched for someone else on the bench.
Cricket Imo is a game of confidence and form. You have to take struggling players out of their misery and drop them for their own good and replace them with a fresh unscared player
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When was the last time Pakistan lost a close encounter to india?
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Nawaz in the circumstances did ok, big ask getting a spinner to bowl the last one. Had the ball not rebounded off the stumps he might have had a few more runs to play with off the final delivery. Ideally he should have been bowled out
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The captain had only 3 pacers and he used them well. Had he brought Nawaz after his 20 run over, you would have been the first person saying that look how defensive our captain is, should have brought in the pace bowling etc etc.
In Asia cup, a few weeks back.
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This is a cringe video that should not be made public. Whatever happens in the dressing room should stay in the dressing room. The media department of the PCB wants to create a brand out of Babar therefore we see these gimmicks. There's no need for it. Brands are made by performances and not by speeches.
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What a difference a good night's sleep can make...
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This morning on way to Perth
Last night:
This morning on way to Perth
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It was a good speech by babar Win and lose as a team
And yes mistakes were made in the last over but it should never have got to that point where he had only 16 to defend
Pakistan had 48 to defend in the last 3 overs All 3 last overs went indias way
Thats where they shouldve closed the game out
Rauf- Shaheen overs cost pakistan the game
And yes mistakes were made in the last over but it should never have got to that point where he had only 16 to defend
Pakistan had 48 to defend in the last 3 overs All 3 last overs went indias way
Thats where they shouldve closed the game out
Rauf- Shaheen overs cost pakistan the game
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That's a massacre, no matter what excuse or spin anyone can come up with, it's quite pathetic to give away an average of 16 runs per over in a row.
Then we have all these fans sating how great a bowling attack we have and how we can defend any score. If that's good, I'd hate to see us having a bad day.
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You lost because of your clueless captaincy. When Nawaz was targeted for 3 6's in 3rd over, I would have given ball to Iftikhar to complete remaining 1 over.
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It makes me laugh when fans such as yourself find ways to pin the complete responsibility for the defeat on our team. I guess it's impossible for you to maybe say that India played really well and came back from a remarkably tough situation to win the game.
It would be one thing if Pakistan missed run-outs or dropped catches. But that did not happen. Rather than being emotional and unnecessarily critical, try thinking rationally. Babar rotated the bowlers really well and with the intent of taking wickets. There was no saving Haris or Shaheen or Naseem's overs for the end. It was all about getting Kohli's wicket. It's not Babar's fault that Kohli played exceptionally well and didn't give those guys an inch.
Oh, and you know who called those shots instinctive? Kohli: the guy who actually played those shots. But I guess you know much more about those shots sitting on your sofa watching them on a TV.
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Kohli:."...It’s just instinctively I saw it, told myself to stay still. The one at long-on was unexpected, it was a back-of-a-length slower ball. and the next one, I just swung my bat at it and it swung over fine leg. Standing here I just feel like it was meant to be.”
But yeah, tell me about how those shots weren't instinctive. LOL.
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Hope Shaheen and Rauf remember this choke. They have done it twice i.e. Australia SF in 2021 and against India at the MCG. Performances against the big boys is what counts on the big stage, that is what people remember.
Amir has had a mediocre career but people still remember him for the 2009 T-20 Final and the 2017 ODI Champions Trophy final.
Amir has had a mediocre career but people still remember him for the 2009 T-20 Final and the 2017 ODI Champions Trophy final.
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Sometimes tough love is necessary. Imagine if this was Justin Langer, there is no way he would care about emotions and friendships and would give some serious stick to the team.
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I don't know what some posters are going on about here. Nawaz ALMOST defended the target. If not for his wides and Marias Erasmus's little gift to India, Pak would have won it. In such a situation, Nawaz was a good option because as an offie, he has more control over the ball and can fire it in to the block hole. That's probably why he would have gotten it.
Nobody questions Dhoni for giving Joginder the over because Misbah bottled it. Imagine if those wides weren't wided or at least if Erasmus wasn't on Santa Clause mode for India.
Nobody questions Dhoni for giving Joginder the over because Misbah bottled it. Imagine if those wides weren't wided or at least if Erasmus wasn't on Santa Clause mode for India.
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He did use the pacers well, wish he did the same with spinners
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Fully agree.
It absolutely sucks that we lost. But hindsight, as ever, is 20-20, and it’s easy to point figures when we lose.
If things went our way even slightly in the last three overs then Pak win that game. It’s fine margins rather than weak captaincy or bottling it.
We as a fan base constantly throw our toys out the pram everytime we lose, but this was a very close game than we lost because of an incredible innings.
What I have seen under Babar is, we’ve progressed under Babar from the team that used to capitulate against India (and others) to one that is pushing everybody all the way.
Now more than ever we need to back the boys rather than second guess them. Even if that means having to deal with our own disappointment. Because if we’re as unsupportive as a fan base, then we do not deserve to win the World Cup.
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This. Each and Every Word
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Yeah but whoever told/instructed Nawaz to bowl almost seam-up with keeper going back is partially culpable here. If it was Nawaz' decision then he really had a cluttered mind and made a terrible choice but if it was captain or some other senior player's instruction then they need to take the blame here.
And yes Rauf made terrible choices as well on those two balls. Even before those two slower ones, his first couple of deliveries in that over were slower ones as well and Kohli slapped one of them straight to cover point. I had remarked even at that time that his full pace length bowling had proven impossible to get away so why was he bowling them slow!
Even if both of them knew that he was going to bowl it there, still the lift off the surface was too much to handle. 3rd and 4th deliveries were normal pace and Hardik could barely get his bat on one of them! That's why I can not, for the love of me, understand why did he choose to bowl slow deliveries to Kohli when clearly his 90mph pace and bounce off good length was proving impossible to get away, even for a fully set Kohli. It was absolutely clear that the pitch was too quick and true for slow balls for work. On almost every track, bar that MCG/Perth, I could totally understand him choosing the slower one as that is his go-to delivery. But he was absolutely too quick for anyone on that pitch. Kohli was able to hit that delivery straight because he got time to hit it. That shot would have either gone straight up or hit his glove/gone over the keeper's head if it was on pace delivery at the same length. What's worse, he bowled slower one again and Kohl was good enough to help that one over fine leg.
Like you said, even a fast yorker would have been fine as well. A 90mph full delivery, with batter showing the stumps is still a better option than a slower one. It would have been unpredictable as well as I don't remember him bowling even one fuller delivery to Kohli throughout his spell.
I feel the shot is getting more hype than it deserves; it was NOT a full-pace delivery, was a slower one that gave him the time to hit it with a straight bat. Still, an incredible shot but they way it is being described, it seems he smashed a 90mph length delivery.
Coming to the topic, I think Haris would be distraught as well. He is a sort of character who is too emotional and hence it is very important that the management/captain keeps his spirits high. He needs to be perked up and told that he still is the most vital bowler for the team and capable of taking the team to the knock-out stages of the tournament with some devastating spell on these lively pitches!
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Why can't you people blame team management who played Asif Ali... despite his repeated failures...
Just imagine if Pakistan would have played another fast bowler in place of Asif Ali result would have altogether different...
Just imagine if Pakistan would have played another fast bowler in place of Asif Ali result would have altogether different...
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Exactly. You'll have a very good professional unit now. Yes, their PR campaigns are deliberate, probably a bit of tableeghi touch from Saqlain too. But who cares ? Pakistan is more competitive and doesn't have to rely on Afridi. I have been a Pakistani fan since a kid, despite not being Pakistani, and I know the DNA of the Pakistani team back then. Now, with Nawaz, Shadab, Babar, Rizwan and even Chacha, they are slowly forming a strong unit ... Which is near perfect and only needs one or two vital cogs, such as an Umar Akmal pre 2015 and a solid fast bowling all rounder.
Rauf lost the game for Pakistan. The 2 sixes with 28 needed off 8 was the killer. Game was over otherwise. Picking fast bowler in last over would have been stupid-would , game would have lasted 4 balls instead of going to last ball.
Our new age team should stop all this nicety nicety stuff.
I get you have to back your players, but it sends the wrong message. Players who fail should feel bad, they should try and improve. We have too much of an easy going culture.
They release babar’s speech after the game. Why? What is the point of publicly posting it? What do you want? Some fair play award?
Stop this goody two shoes rubbish. Go and play your cricket. Play it hard. Keep it real. Feel bad, very bad when you lose. Sure, back each other up in private. Show compassion to your team mates in private, but also show that it has consequences too.
You don’t need to publicly release all these statements, motivational speeches, cake cutting etc etc.
I get you have to back your players, but it sends the wrong message. Players who fail should feel bad, they should try and improve. We have too much of an easy going culture.
They release babar’s speech after the game. Why? What is the point of publicly posting it? What do you want? Some fair play award?
Stop this goody two shoes rubbish. Go and play your cricket. Play it hard. Keep it real. Feel bad, very bad when you lose. Sure, back each other up in private. Show compassion to your team mates in private, but also show that it has consequences too.
You don’t need to publicly release all these statements, motivational speeches, cake cutting etc etc.
You joking me? Pace bowler bowling the last over is much better then a spinner doing so. 18 or something like that is the last over was enough to defend had Nawaz used his head.
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No. India conceded 44 runs in 3 overs to Pakistan tailenders. Pakistan conceded 48 runs in 3 overs mainly to GOAT. There is a difference. India did far worse than Pakistan
I agree with this analysis. I am not sure why he didnt just bowl fast yorkers outside off and put a fielder at point and third man to block the boundary.
Sometimes the simplest things are needed.
With 8 balls to go and 28 to defend all you needed was to close out the game and not concede a boundary
Either that or bowl a REALLY short ball so its hard to hook for six
he basically gambled and the ball sat up and kohli guessed right both times and hit for six. once kohli knew it was going to be an off pace ball, it was like a medium pace and he hit it for 6.
and no need to be so hard on nawaz...he won a game against india in asia cup
he won two games in the NZ series
its ok.
its cricket. its life.
you lose some you win some.
pakistan lost because they lost 4 middle order wickets very fast. they should have scored 180. 159 was never going to be easy to defend.
iftikhar was doing brilliantly but gave his wicket away. he had just scored 3 sixes. it was only the 12th over.
all he had to do is take single double til 16th over and wait for more spinners, and then launch...pakistan would have easily out-batted india
but poor decisions overall, just seemed like decision making was off.
he won two games in the NZ series
its ok.
its cricket. its life.
you lose some you win some.
pakistan lost because they lost 4 middle order wickets very fast. they should have scored 180. 159 was never going to be easy to defend.
iftikhar was doing brilliantly but gave his wicket away. he had just scored 3 sixes. it was only the 12th over.
all he had to do is take single double til 16th over and wait for more spinners, and then launch...pakistan would have easily out-batted india
but poor decisions overall, just seemed like decision making was off.
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In case of Nawaz, there is no question of doubting his talent, what is mindboggling is that he chose to change his entire bowling action for that last over with keeper standing back. Shows terrible lack of confidence he has his normal bowling skills. 16 runs ideally would have been defended 9 out of 10 times with his normal bowling action.
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Absolutely agree.
yes, i am not sure what happened at that time. but it did work. he did get the first wicket on paniya
after that he should have switched back to regular spin with the new batsman.
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We didn't lose because of one man....but one man won't get to bowl today.
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guy is a clown as a captain, loses us a game due to his lack of captaincy decisions, big speeches of no finger pointing, and then gives us the perfect, Tell me how to point out a single player for a loss without telling me a single player cost us the game.
Babar the unlegendary kuptaan...
Babar the unlegendary kuptaan...
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May be captaincy pressure getting to him now
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Hes been a mediocre captain in the field and in mindset there entire time hes be in charge in all formats. Time for a change.
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Today we lost as a team for sure - all performed badly.
That's protecting Babar and Rizwan. More importantly Babar.
You are expected to lead the batting when chasing a paltry 130 against Zimbabwe. No two ways about it.
If Babar gets away with this then it's a mafia that is operating within the PCB.
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Babar looked like a tailender today. For such a hyped talked about batsman he was expected to show his so called class on a difficult Perth wicket.
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Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis not too happy with Babar Azam dressing room speeches videos
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“If I was Babar, I would get hold of that guy who is making a video. Sometimes, certain things are personal. I am all for social media, players interacting with their fans and everything. But I have not seen any other team do it in this World Cup? So yeah, the urge to get extra numbers (followers, likes), cut it down. This is too much,” Wasim Akram said on A-Sports.
“There are recordings taking place all the time. Imagine if I am sitting and not knowing that someone is recording – a message that I want to give my team. Just tell him, ‘Guys, relax for two days. Do it some other place but not dressing room,” Wasim Akram added.
“I 100 percent agree with you. Whatever happens inside the dressing room, should stay there. This is a problem not just now but earlier as well when a lot of information was leaked to the media – people used to scream, argue, fight. And now you yourself are recording and showing it to the world,” Waqar Younis mentioned.
Earlier, Wasim Akram urged the out-of-form Babar Azam to take inspiration from India batting icon Virat Kohli.
The Pakistan skipper who was breaking records for fun in the first half of this year, has struggled to get going in the T20 World Cup and has managed only 39 runs in 5 matches so far. Notably, he could only score 14 runs in Pakistan first four games and his best of 25 came against Bangladesh during the weekend.
“This happens. This happened to one of the greatest of all time Virat Kohli. Almost for a year – he was out of touch, out of nick. People criticised him in India. Babar is a class player we all know. He just needs one good innings. Probably he put pressure on himself because obviously for the standards he has already set for himself after scoring so many runs in the last 3-4 years across formats. As a sportsman, you do compete with yourself,” Wasim Akram said.
https://clutchpoints.com/babar-azams-dressing-room-video-angers-pakistan-legends
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“If I was Babar, I would get hold of that guy who is making a video. Sometimes, certain things are personal. I am all for social media, players interacting with their fans and everything. But I have not seen any other team do it in this World Cup? So yeah, the urge to get extra numbers (followers, likes), cut it down. This is too much,” Wasim Akram said on A-Sports.
“There are recordings taking place all the time. Imagine if I am sitting and not knowing that someone is recording – a message that I want to give my team. Just tell him, ‘Guys, relax for two days. Do it some other place but not dressing room,” Wasim Akram added.
“I 100 percent agree with you. Whatever happens inside the dressing room, should stay there. This is a problem not just now but earlier as well when a lot of information was leaked to the media – people used to scream, argue, fight. And now you yourself are recording and showing it to the world,” Waqar Younis mentioned.
Earlier, Wasim Akram urged the out-of-form Babar Azam to take inspiration from India batting icon Virat Kohli.
The Pakistan skipper who was breaking records for fun in the first half of this year, has struggled to get going in the T20 World Cup and has managed only 39 runs in 5 matches so far. Notably, he could only score 14 runs in Pakistan first four games and his best of 25 came against Bangladesh during the weekend.
“This happens. This happened to one of the greatest of all time Virat Kohli. Almost for a year – he was out of touch, out of nick. People criticised him in India. Babar is a class player we all know. He just needs one good innings. Probably he put pressure on himself because obviously for the standards he has already set for himself after scoring so many runs in the last 3-4 years across formats. As a sportsman, you do compete with yourself,” Wasim Akram said.
https://clutchpoints.com/babar-azams-dressing-room-video-angers-pakistan-legends
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