[VIDEO] Why Western Women Are Converting To Islam

[RexRex]

No you were not.

I have decided, its relevant, since the topic is about the growth of Islam, and some have claimed this is due to the number of Children Muslims are having, you agreed with my tongue in cheek comment on how Christianity, Hinduism, and Atheism are not having enough children and your explanation is the higher the literacy the lower the fertility.

You are claiming the Islamic world is illiterate, by your own logic, just not brave enough to actually say it.

Like I said, I don't want to be reductionist. The truth is muti-faceted. Literacy might be a tiny component of it but Islam being a patriarchy-oriented religion could also be a factor.

I mean ultimately you have to flesh out a logical pathway from Islam to high fertility. Please go ahead and give us your own theories on what is the cause here.

 

[Technics 1210]

I mean ultimately you have to flesh out a logical pathway from Islam to high fertility. Please go ahead and give us your own theories on what is the cause here.

Nope. I am not the one claiming the spread of Islam is related to fertility rates, but if I were I would also factor mortality rates within children to - which you clearly did not.

 

[RexRex]

Nope. I am not the one claiming the spread of Islam is related to fertility rates, but if I were I would also factor mortality rates within children to - which you clearly did not.

I am sure Pew Data being the professionals that they are has taken all factors into account, including mortality rates.

If it's not fertility, what's your reason for Islam being fastest growing religion ?

 

[Technics 1210]

If it's not fertility, what's your reason for Islam being fastest growing religion ?

Awareness.

When Islam is constantly in the news, it gets the literate thinking, and spreads the word of Islam.

There is a reason why Islamic conversations in the USA alone increased by 400% post 9/11.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isl...onvert to Islam,times more since September 11.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Islam gives women more rights than anything. In a world when women rights are being take away, thanks to woke Trans agenda, Islam protects women from such evil.

In west, women are supposed to meet certain beauty standards, eg. having a certain type of body, hair, lips, etc. In Islam, women aren’t under any pressure to meet the society’s beauty expectations and standards.

So no wonder, so many western women convert to Islam.

Islam is the only solution to combat corrupt woke liberal western lifestyle.

Islam does not give more rights to women. On the contrary, anything below that a woman cannot do in Islam, can be done in the West.

1. A woman cannot marry without her guardian's permission. A man can.

2. A woman can marry only one man. A man can have 4 wives.

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

4. A man can divorce his wife for no reason. A woman has to go to an authority to request a divorce.

5. Women's share in inheritance is less than men's.

6. A man can hit his wife.

7. A woman cannot marry non Muslims. Men can marry Christian and Jew women.

8. A woman cannot lead prayers.

9. Woman's testimony is half of a man.

10. A woman has to cover her hair. A man has no such obligation.

11. Women cannot lead nations.

The list goes on and on. The false claim that Islam gives women more rights can be easily debunked in 2 minutes.

 

[sweep_shot]

Islam does not give more rights to women. On the contrary, anything below that a woman cannot do in Islam, can be done in the West.

1. A woman cannot marry without her guardian's permission. A man can.

2. A woman can marry only one man. A man can have 4 wives.

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

4. A man can divorce his wife for no reason. A woman has to go to an authority to request a divorce.

5. Women's share in inheritance is less than men's.

6. A man can hit his wife.

7. A woman cannot marry non Muslims. Men can marry Christian and Jew women.

8. A woman cannot lead prayers.

9. Woman's testimony is half of a man.

10. A woman has to cover her hair. A man has no such obligation.

11. Women cannot lead nations.

The list goes on and on. The false claim that Islam gives women more rights can be easily debunked in 2 minutes.

Women and men have biological differences and different challenges.

Islam has given women their due rights and men their due rights. Every ruling has wisdom behind it.

You are not debunking anything.

 

[Hitman]

Islam does not give more rights to women. On the contrary, anything below that a woman cannot do in Islam, can be done in the West.

1. A woman cannot marry without her guardian's permission. A man can.

2. A woman can marry only one man. A man can have 4 wives.

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

4. A man can divorce his wife for no reason. A woman has to go to an authority to request a divorce.

5. Women's share in inheritance is less than men's.

6. A man can hit his wife.

7. A woman cannot marry non Muslims. Men can marry Christian and Jew women.

8. A woman cannot lead prayers.

9. Woman's testimony is half of a man.

10. A woman has to cover her hair. A man has no such obligation.

11. Women cannot lead nations.

The list goes on and on. The false claim that Islam gives women more rights can be easily debunked in 2 minutes.

Very good post.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Women and men have biological differences and different challenges.

Islam has given women their due rights and men their due rights. Every ruling has wisdom behind it.

You are not debunking anything.

The claim was that Islam gives women more rights than west which has been proved to be false based on this list alone.

Which biological difference makes woman's testimony half of a man and what is the wisdom behind this blatant misogyny?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Awareness.

When Islam is constantly in the news, it gets the literate thinking, and spreads the word of Islam.

There is a reason why Islamic conversations in the USA alone increased by 400% post 9/11.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isl...onvert to Islam,times more since September 11.

A major reason for women in west converting to Islam is due to a more politically correct version of Islam based on western values that women of the first world countries portray who did not have to live in a patriarchal society of Islamic countries where Islamic rulings are mostly enforced in their original forms. The YouTube generation of scholars convey western values as part of Islam. For example, every modern scholar will tell you that men and women are equal in Islam which on the basis of Quran and Hadith is completely false.

Most of the converts have a very basic understanding of Islam based on the mainstream view content available on YouTube and Google. I bet not many will convert to Islam or any other religion if they only read the history and original text from their holy books.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Women and men have biological differences and different challenges.

Islam has given women their due rights and men their due rights. Every ruling has wisdom behind it.

You are not debunking anything.

So a women's witness is half of that of a man is because of biological difference?

 

[sweep_shot]

A major reason for women in west converting to Islam is due to a more politically correct version of Islam based on western values that women of the first world countries portray who did not have to live in a patriarchal society of Islamic countries where Islamic rulings are mostly enforced in their original forms. The YouTube generation of scholars convey western values as part of Islam. For example, every modern scholar will tell you that men and women are equal in Islam which on the basis of Quran and Hadith is completely false.

Most of the converts have a very basic understanding of Islam based on the mainstream view content available on YouTube and Google. I bet not many will convert to Islam or any other religion if they only read the history and original text from their holy books.

That is not true.

Please provide examples of "YouTube generation of scholars convey western values as part of Islam".

It seems like you get your knowledge from Islamophobic websites.

 

[The_Odd_One]

There is wisdom behind every ruling.

You two have demonstrated that you are Islamophobes. So, no matter which evidence I put forth, you may either reject or take things out of contexts.

Do you think there is a wisdom behind a testimony of someone like Amelia Earhart or Marie Curie being less than that of an uneducated man?

 

[Abdullah]

Islam does not give more rights to women. On the contrary, anything below that a woman cannot do in Islam, can be done in the West.

1. A woman cannot marry without her guardian's permission. A man can.

2. A woman can marry only one man. A man can have 4 wives.

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

4. A man can divorce his wife for no reason. A woman has to go to an authority to request a divorce.

5. Women's share in inheritance is less than men's.

6. A man can hit his wife.

7. A woman cannot marry non Muslims. Men can marry Christian and Jew women.

8. A woman cannot lead prayers.

9. Woman's testimony is half of a man.

10. A woman has to cover her hair. A man has no such obligation.

11. Women cannot lead nations.

The list goes on and on. The false claim that Islam gives women more rights can be easily debunked in 2 minutes.

You haven't debunked anything
Please note that equality does not equal identicality. There are other aspects where the the women seem to have the "nicer deal". No financial responsibility, no need to protect, no need to go out to war, dowry given by men and not women etc etc.
If an exam has 10 questions and they are 5 marks each, 2 people can score exactly the same in total by scoring differently in different questions.

 

[sweep_shot]

Do you think there is a wisdom behind a testimony of someone like Amelia Earhart or Marie Curie being less than that of an uneducated man?

What's so special about Amelia? The reason why she got famous was due to her gender. Also, she disappeared. I suspect her piloting skills weren't as great as claimed.

Marie Curie was talented. But, it had nothing to do with the question you are asking. You are taking a specific ruling out of context.

 

[RexRex]

Women and men have biological differences and different challenges.

Islam has given women their due rights and men their due rights. Every ruling has wisdom behind it.

You are not debunking anything.

Are the points he listed true ? I thought you might immediately call it out as false but you haven't .. yet.

 

[sweep_shot]

Are the points he listed true ? I thought you might immediately call it out as false but you haven't .. yet.

He largely took things out of contexts. For example, he wrote something like men hitting wives.

He was making it sound like Islam encouraged violence against females. That is not the case.

In Islam, husband is encouraged to treat wife well. It is Sunnah for a husband to help his wife in household duties. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) never hit his wife.

 

[sweep_shot]

If Islam is so oppressive, why are there so many western women converting? Even Latino women have started to convert in big numbers.

Let's have a look at testimony of one of the female western converts:

 

[The_KING]

Islam does not give more rights to women. On the contrary, anything below that a woman cannot do in Islam, can be done in the West.

1. A woman cannot marry without her guardian's permission. A man can.

2. A woman can marry only one man. A man can have 4 wives.

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

4. A man can divorce his wife for no reason. A woman has to go to an authority to request a divorce.

5. Women's share in inheritance is less than men's.

6. A man can hit his wife.

7. A woman cannot marry non Muslims. Men can marry Christian and Jew women.

8. A woman cannot lead prayers.

9. Woman's testimony is half of a man.

10. A woman has to cover her hair. A man has no such obligation.

11. Women cannot lead nations.

The list goes on and on. The false claim that Islam gives women more rights can be easily debunked in 2 minutes.

You ain't debunked nothing, but you tried to be a smart ***.

What liberals like you don't understand is that men and women are two different beings, with different roles in society. There are aspects where women have an advantage over men, and vice versa.

 

[Robert]

You ain't debunked nothing, but you tried to be a smart ***.

What liberals like you don't understand is that men and women are two different beings, with different roles in society. There are aspects where women have an advantage over men, and vice versa.

But under patriarchal systems like Abrahamism, men hold pretty much all the power.

I find your post oversimplifying, and frankly fifty years out of date. I’ve had several excellent women bosses in my time, and met a couple of house husbands In couples where the woman is an engineer or lawyer and therefore has greater earning power than the man.

 

[The_Odd_One]

You ain't debunked nothing, but you tried to be a smart ***.

What liberals like you don't understand is that men and women are two different beings, with different roles in society. There are aspects where women have an advantage over men, and vice versa.

Every single point I made can be proved from Quran and Hadith.

Women can do everything that men can and the same is true the other way around. Yours is an obsolete belief that has no place in the modern world. I have personally known successful working women supporting their kids financially as well as some great dads who took the responsibility of raising kids.

Let people chose their path rather than telling them what they cannot do.

 

[The_Odd_One]

He largely took things out of contexts. For example, he wrote something like men hitting wives.

He was making it sound like Islam encouraged violence against females. That is not the case.

In Islam, husband is encouraged to treat wife well. It is Sunnah for a husband to help his wife in household duties. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) never hit his wife.

Nowhere did I say any such thing. You are putting words in my mouth. Men are allowed to beat their wives if necessary as clearly mentioned in Quran.

 

[MenInG]

Nowhere did I say any such thing. You are putting words in my mouth. Men are allowed to beat their wives if necessary as clearly mentioned in Quran.

Literal meanings versus the spirit of the text.

There are plenty of Ahadith where violence against women is forbidden. As Muslims we use the words of the Prophet PBUH if at anytime we feel a Quranic injunction needs any clarification.

 

[sweep_shot]

Every single point I made can be proved from Quran and Hadith.

Nope. You took things out of contexts. You demonstrated ignorance.

For example, let me go through one of your points.

You said -->

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

Women have to wait due to the following reason:

In Islam, iddah or iddat (Arabic: العدة, romanized: al-ʿidda; "period of waiting") is the period a woman must observe after the death of her husband or after a divorce, during which she may not marry another man.[1]: 472 [2] One of its main purposes is to remove any doubt as to the paternity of a child born after the divorce or death of the prior husband.

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iddah.

 

[sweep_shot]

Every single point I made can be proved from Quran and Hadith.

Women can do everything that men can and the same is true the other way around. Yours is an obsolete belief that has no place in the modern world. I have personally known successful working women supporting their kids financially as well as some great dads who took the responsibility of raising kids.

Let people chose their path rather than telling them what they cannot do.

We are seeing how messed up modern world has become. When you remove God's laws from societies, chaos happens.

Why do you think all these western women are converting to Islam if it is so bad? Not just western ones but even Latino women are converting. Many men are converting too.

People who are anti-Islam don't often look at bigger pictures.

 

[Technics 1210]

We are seeing how messed up modern world has become. When you remove God's laws from societies, chaos happens.

Why do you think all these western women are converting to Islam if it is so bad? Not just western ones but even Latino women are converting. Many men are converting too.

People who are anti-Islam don't often look at bigger pictures.

Exactly, and the usual suspects are not interested in why said women are converting to Islam, but rather their aim is to ridicule Islam.

I say good luck, all publicity leads to awareness, and the more they mention Islam, the greater the awareness, and the faster the growth of Islam.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Literal meanings versus the spirit of the text.

There are plenty of Ahadith where violence against women is forbidden. As Muslims we use the words of the Prophet PBUH if at anytime we feel a Quranic injunction needs any clarification.

There's a clear verse in Quran that allows a man to hit his wife. This was the opinion of all the classic Islamic scholars as well. We can debate on the circumstances that allows hitting wives but the verse is there to allow hitting.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Nope. You took things out of contexts. You demonstrated ignorance.

For example, let me go through one of your points.

You said -->

Women have to wait due to the following reason:



Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iddah.

It does not justify the restriction. Let the woman and her husband decide who should raise the kids. This restriction also does not make sense if the woman is not pregnant.

 

[MenInG]

There's a clear verse in Quran that allows a man to hit his wife. This was the opinion of all the classic Islamic scholars as well. We can debate on the circumstances that allows hitting wives but the verse is there to allow hitting.

Ijtehad allows for interpretation.

You can go to jail for hitting your wife in all Islamic states. That is more important than trying to throw in ways of demeaning Islam.

 

[sweep_shot]

There's a clear verse in Quran that allows a man to hit his wife. This was the opinion of all the classic Islamic scholars as well. We can debate on the circumstances that allows hitting wives but the verse is there to allow hitting.

Verse is there but you are making the issue black and white. It seems like you are saying Islam encourages violence against women. That's not the case.

Like I said, Islam encourages good treatments of wives. Let's check some of the Hadiths:

“O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another.” (Muslim)

“Fear Allaah with regard to women, for you have taken them as a trust from Allah…….” (Muslim)

"The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives." (Ibn Majah 1977)

I know many husbands are oppressive but that's not the fault of Islam.

 

[The_Odd_One]

We are seeing how messed up modern world has become. When you remove God's laws from societies, chaos happens.

Why do you think all these western women are converting to Islam if it is so bad? Not just western ones but even Latino women are converting. Many men are converting too.

People who are anti-Islam don't often look at bigger pictures.

More people are leaving religion than converting to other religions.

The modern world is far better than ancient times when millions were killed in the name of religion.

 

[sweep_shot]

More people are leaving religion than converting to other religions.

Any statistics to back it up or did you just make it up?

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Please check statistics.

 

[sweep_shot]

“O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another.” (Muslim)

One correction. This statement was from Allah (SWT); conveyed by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Here's the full hadith:

Abu Dharr (RA) reported Allah's Messenger (PBUH) as saying that Allah (SWT) said:

"O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another. O My servants, all of you are astray except for those I have guided, so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you, O My servants, all of you are hungry except for those I have fed, so seek food of Me and I shall feed you. O My servants, all of you are naked except for those I have clothed, so seek clothing of Me and I shall clothe you. O My servants, you sin by night and by day, and I forgive all sins, so seek forgiveness of Me and I shall forgive you. O My servants, you will not attain harming Me so as to harm Me, and will not attain benefitting Me so as to benefit Me. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as pious as the most pious heart of any one man of you, that would not increase My dominion in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as wicked as the most wicked heart of any one man of you, that would not decrease My dominion in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to rise up in one place and make a request of Me, and were I to give everyone what he requested, that would not decrease what I have, any more that a needle decreases the sea if put into it. O My servants, it is but your deeds that I record for you and then recompense you for. So let him who finds good, praise Allah, and let him who finds other than that blame no one but himself."

Reference: https://sunnah.com/muslim:2577a.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Ijtehad allows for interpretation.

You can go to jail for hitting your wife in all Islamic states. That is more important than trying to throw in ways of demeaning Islam.

Not true. There's no such law stopping men from hitting their wives in Islamic countries.

Quran could simply have a verse clearly forbidding men to hit their wives under any circumstances but that's not the case.

Here's a Hadith for your reference which shows that a companion was not reprimanded for hitting his wife.

حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَهَّابِ، أَخْبَرَنَا أَيُّوبُ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، أَنَّ رِفَاعَةَ، طَلَّقَ امْرَأَتَهُ، فَتَزَوَّجَهَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ الزَّبِيرِ الْقُرَظِيُّ، قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ وَعَلَيْهَا خِمَارٌ أَخْضَرُ‏.‏ فَشَكَتْ إِلَيْهَا، وَأَرَتْهَا خُضْرَةً بِجِلْدِهَا، فَلَمَّا جَاءَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَالنِّسَاءُ يَنْصُرُ بَعْضُهُنَّ بَعْضًا قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِثْلَ مَا يَلْقَى الْمُؤْمِنَاتُ، لَجِلْدُهَا أَشَدُّ خُضْرَةً مِنْ ثَوْبِهَا‏.‏ قَالَ وَسَمِعَ أَنَّهَا قَدْ أَتَتْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَجَاءَ وَمَعَهُ ابْنَانِ لَهُ مِنْ غَيْرِهَا‏.‏ قَالَتْ وَاللَّهِ مَا لِي إِلَيْهِ مِنْ ذَنْبٍ، إِلاَّ أَنَّ مَا مَعَهُ لَيْسَ بِأَغْنَى عَنِّي مِنْ هَذِهِ‏.‏ وَأَخَذَتْ هُدْبَةً مِنْ ثَوْبِهَا، فَقَالَ كَذَبَتْ وَاللَّهِ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ، إِنِّي لأَنْفُضُهَا نَفْضَ الأَدِيمِ، وَلَكِنَّهَا نَاشِزٌ تُرِيدُ رِفَاعَةَ‏.‏ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ فَإِنْ كَانَ ذَلِكَ لَمْ تَحِلِّي لَهُ ـ أَوْ لَمْ تَصْلُحِي لَهُ ـ حَتَّى يَذُوقَ مِنْ عُسَيْلَتِكِ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ وَأَبْصَرَ مَعَهُ ابْنَيْنِ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ بَنُوكَ هَؤُلاَءِ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ نَعَمْ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ هَذَا الَّذِي تَزْعُمِينَ مَا تَزْعُمِينَ، فَوَاللَّهِ لَهُمْ أَشْبَهُ بِهِ مِنَ الْغُرَابِ بِالْغُرَابِ ‏"‏‏.‏

Narrated `Ikrima: Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came, `Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When `AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, `Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa`a." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa`a unless `Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) saw two boys with `Abdur- Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that `AbdurRahman said, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,"

Sahih al-Bukhari 5825
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5825

 

[sweep_shot]

Not true. There's no such law stopping men from hitting their wives in Islamic countries.

Are you saying Islam supports violence against women?

I have given you verses regarding good treatments of wives. Not sure why you are ignoring those verses.

All you have been doing is taking things out of contexts.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Are you saying Islam supports violence against women?

I have given you verses regarding good treatments of wives. Not sure why you are ignoring those verses.

All you have been doing is taking things out of contexts.

Islam does not encourage violence against women but it leaves to the discretion of their husbands and fathers.

وَحَدَّثَنَا زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا رَوْحُ بْنُ عُبَادَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا زَكَرِيَّاءُ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ دَخَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ يَسْتَأْذِنُ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَوَجَدَ النَّاسَ جُلُوسًا بِبَابِهِ لَمْ يُؤْذَنْ لأَحَدٍ مِنْهُمْ - قَالَ - فَأُذِنَ لأَبِي بَكْرٍ فَدَخَلَ ثُمَّ أَقْبَلَ عُمَرُ فَاسْتَأْذَنَ فَأُذِنَ لَهُ فَوَجَدَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم جَالِسًا حَوْلَهُ نِسَاؤُهُ وَاجِمًا سَاكِتًا - قَالَ - فَقَالَ لأَقُولَنَّ شَيْئًا أُضْحِكُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ لَوْ رَأَيْتَ بِنْتَ خَارِجَةَ سَأَلَتْنِي النَّفَقَةَ فَقُمْتُ إِلَيْهَا فَوَجَأْتُ عُنُقَهَا ‏.‏ فَضَحِكَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَالَ ‏"‏ هُنَّ حَوْلِي كَمَا تَرَى يَسْأَلْنَنِي النَّفَقَةَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَقَامَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ إِلَى عَائِشَةَ يَجَأُ عُنُقَهَا فَقَامَ عُمَرُ إِلَى حَفْصَةَ يَجَأُ عُنُقَهَا كِلاَهُمَا يَقُولُ تَسْأَلْنَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَا لَيْسَ عِنْدَهُ ‏.‏ فَقُلْنَ وَاللَّهِ لاَ نَسْأَلُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم شَيْئًا أَبَدًا لَيْسَ عِنْدَهُ ثُمَّ اعْتَزَلَهُنَّ شَهْرًا أَوْ تِسْعًا وَعِشْرِينَ ثُمَّ نَزَلَتْ عَلَيْهِ هَذِهِ الآيَةُ ‏{‏ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُلْ لأَزْوَاجِكَ‏}‏ حَتَّى بَلَغَ ‏{‏ لِلْمُحْسِنَاتِ مِنْكُنَّ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا‏}‏ قَالَ فَبَدَأَ بِعَائِشَةَ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ يَا عَائِشَةُ إِنِّي أُرِيدُ أَنْ أَعْرِضَ عَلَيْكَ أَمْرًا أُحِبُّ أَنْ لاَ تَعْجَلِي فِيهِ حَتَّى تَسْتَشِيرِي أَبَوَيْكِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ وَمَا هُوَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ فَتَلاَ عَلَيْهَا الآيَةَ قَالَتْ أَفِيكَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَسْتَشِيرُ أَبَوَىَّ بَلْ أَخْتَارُ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالدَّارَ الآخِرَةَ وَأَسْأَلُكَ أَنْ لاَ تُخْبِرَ امْرَأَةً مِنْ نِسَائِكَ بِالَّذِي قُلْتُ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ لاَ تَسْأَلُنِي امْرَأَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ إِلاَّ أَخْبَرْتُهَا إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَمْ يَبْعَثْنِي مُعَنِّتًا وَلاَ مُتَعَنِّتًا وَلَكِنْ بَعَثَنِي مُعَلِّمًا مُيَسِّرًا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased with them) reported: Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) came and sought permission to see Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). He found people sitting at his door and none amongst them had been granted permission, but it was granted to Abu Bakr and he went in. Then came 'Umar and he sought permission and it was granted to him, and he found Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) sitting sad and silent with his wives around him. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: I would say something which would make the Prophet (ﷺ) laugh, so he said: Messenger of Allah, I wish you had seen (the treatment meted out to) the daughter ofKhadija when you asked me some money, and I got up and slapped her on her neck. Allah's Messenger (mav peace be upon him) laughed and said: They are around me as you see, asking for extra money. <b>Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) then got up went to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) and slapped her on the neck, and 'Umar stood up before Hafsa and slapped her </b>saying: You ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) which he does not possess. They said: By Allah, we do not ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) for anything he does not possess. Then he withdrew from them for a month or for twenty-nine days. Then this verse was revealed to him: " Prophet: Say to thy wives... for a mighty reward" (xxxiii. 28). He then went first to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) and said: I want to propound something to you, 'A'isha, but wish no hasty reply before you consult your parents. She said: Messenger of Allah, what is that? He (the Holy Prophet) recited to her the verse, whereupon she said: Is it about you that I should consult my parents, Messenger of Allah? Nay, I choose Allah, His Messenger, and the Last Abode; but I ask you not to tell any of your wives what I have said He replied: Not one of them will ask me without my informing her. God did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He has sent me to teach and make things easy.

Sahih Muslim 1478
https://sunnah.com/muslim:1478

 

[sweep_shot]

Islam does not encourage violence against women but it leaves to the discretion of their husbands and fathers.

Do you have an issue if a father disciplines her daughter or helps her to make good life choices?

I am not sure what your point is here.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Do you have an issue if a father disciplines her daughter or helps her to make good life choices?

I am not sure what your point is here.

It's disturbing that you don't find anything wrong with hitting grown married daughters to "discipline" them.

 

[MenInG]

Islam does not encourage violence against women but it leaves to the discretion of their husbands and fathers.

وَحَدَّثَنَا زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا رَوْحُ بْنُ عُبَادَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا زَكَرِيَّاءُ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ دَخَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ يَسْتَأْذِنُ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَوَجَدَ النَّاسَ جُلُوسًا بِبَابِهِ لَمْ يُؤْذَنْ لأَحَدٍ مِنْهُمْ - قَالَ - فَأُذِنَ لأَبِي بَكْرٍ فَدَخَلَ ثُمَّ أَقْبَلَ عُمَرُ فَاسْتَأْذَنَ فَأُذِنَ لَهُ فَوَجَدَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم جَالِسًا حَوْلَهُ نِسَاؤُهُ وَاجِمًا سَاكِتًا - قَالَ - فَقَالَ لأَقُولَنَّ شَيْئًا أُضْحِكُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ لَوْ رَأَيْتَ بِنْتَ خَارِجَةَ سَأَلَتْنِي النَّفَقَةَ فَقُمْتُ إِلَيْهَا فَوَجَأْتُ عُنُقَهَا ‏.‏ فَضَحِكَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَالَ ‏"‏ هُنَّ حَوْلِي كَمَا تَرَى يَسْأَلْنَنِي النَّفَقَةَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَقَامَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ إِلَى عَائِشَةَ يَجَأُ عُنُقَهَا فَقَامَ عُمَرُ إِلَى حَفْصَةَ يَجَأُ عُنُقَهَا كِلاَهُمَا يَقُولُ تَسْأَلْنَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَا لَيْسَ عِنْدَهُ ‏.‏ فَقُلْنَ وَاللَّهِ لاَ نَسْأَلُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم شَيْئًا أَبَدًا لَيْسَ عِنْدَهُ ثُمَّ اعْتَزَلَهُنَّ شَهْرًا أَوْ تِسْعًا وَعِشْرِينَ ثُمَّ نَزَلَتْ عَلَيْهِ هَذِهِ الآيَةُ ‏{‏ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُلْ لأَزْوَاجِكَ‏}‏ حَتَّى بَلَغَ ‏{‏ لِلْمُحْسِنَاتِ مِنْكُنَّ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا‏}‏ قَالَ فَبَدَأَ بِعَائِشَةَ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ يَا عَائِشَةُ إِنِّي أُرِيدُ أَنْ أَعْرِضَ عَلَيْكَ أَمْرًا أُحِبُّ أَنْ لاَ تَعْجَلِي فِيهِ حَتَّى تَسْتَشِيرِي أَبَوَيْكِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ وَمَا هُوَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ فَتَلاَ عَلَيْهَا الآيَةَ قَالَتْ أَفِيكَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَسْتَشِيرُ أَبَوَىَّ بَلْ أَخْتَارُ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالدَّارَ الآخِرَةَ وَأَسْأَلُكَ أَنْ لاَ تُخْبِرَ امْرَأَةً مِنْ نِسَائِكَ بِالَّذِي قُلْتُ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ لاَ تَسْأَلُنِي امْرَأَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ إِلاَّ أَخْبَرْتُهَا إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَمْ يَبْعَثْنِي مُعَنِّتًا وَلاَ مُتَعَنِّتًا وَلَكِنْ بَعَثَنِي مُعَلِّمًا مُيَسِّرًا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased with them) reported: Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) came and sought permission to see Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). He found people sitting at his door and none amongst them had been granted permission, but it was granted to Abu Bakr and he went in. Then came 'Umar and he sought permission and it was granted to him, and he found Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) sitting sad and silent with his wives around him. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: I would say something which would make the Prophet (ﷺ) laugh, so he said: Messenger of Allah, I wish you had seen (the treatment meted out to) the daughter ofKhadija when you asked me some money, and I got up and slapped her on her neck. Allah's Messenger (mav peace be upon him) laughed and said: They are around me as you see, asking for extra money. <b>Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) then got up went to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) and slapped her on the neck, and 'Umar stood up before Hafsa and slapped her </b>saying: You ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) which he does not possess. They said: By Allah, we do not ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) for anything he does not possess. Then he withdrew from them for a month or for twenty-nine days. Then this verse was revealed to him: " Prophet: Say to thy wives... for a mighty reward" (xxxiii. 28). He then went first to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) and said: I want to propound something to you, 'A'isha, but wish no hasty reply before you consult your parents. She said: Messenger of Allah, what is that? He (the Holy Prophet) recited to her the verse, whereupon she said: Is it about you that I should consult my parents, Messenger of Allah? Nay, I choose Allah, His Messenger, and the Last Abode; but I ask you not to tell any of your wives what I have said He replied: Not one of them will ask me without my informing her. God did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He has sent me to teach and make things easy.

Sahih Muslim 1478
https://sunnah.com/muslim:1478

No one slaps their wives or daughters quoting above

You have some issues with Islam it seems.

 

[sweep_shot]

It's disturbing that you don't find anything wrong with hitting grown married daughters to "discipline" them.

It is not disturbing to discipline a child (if it gets to that). Looks like you have a problem with the word "discipline".

Disciplining doesn't necessarily mean hitting. I wasn't insinuating that.

So, if a daughter behaves like a slut, you want the father to do nothing. Is that right?

 

[The_KING]

It is not disturbing to discipline a child (if it gets to that). Looks like you have a problem with the word "discipline".

Disciplining doesn't necessarily mean hitting. I wasn't insinuating that.

So, if a daughter behaves like a slut, you want the father to do nothing. Is that right?

This guy is a typical ex muslim who seems to be taking his frustrations out on Islam.

He probably believes that if his daughter behaves like a slut, it is okay because it is her freedom of choice. West and their obsession with freedom, even if that said freedom leads to society becoming corrupt and immoral.

 

[SalimBhai]

All subjective, and once again, The West does not equal the entire world.

Why are Indians flocking to UAE instead of Amreeka/UK?

It’s easier to get to visa wise. Stating the obvious here

 

[SalimBhai]

Awareness.

When Islam is constantly in the news, it gets the literate thinking, and spreads the word of Islam.

There is a reason why Islamic conversations in the USA alone increased by 400% post 9/11.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isl...onvert to Islam,times more since September 11.

Conversion rate in the USA is net zero. Just stating some facts here

 

[SalimBhai]

Islam does not give more rights to women. On the contrary, anything below that a woman cannot do in Islam, can be done in the West.

1. A woman cannot marry without her guardian's permission. A man can.

2. A woman can marry only one man. A man can have 4 wives.

3. A woman cannot remarry for days after her divorce. A man can marry immediately.

4. A man can divorce his wife for no reason. A woman has to go to an authority to request a divorce.

5. Women's share in inheritance is less than men's.

6. A man can hit his wife.

7. A woman cannot marry non Muslims. Men can marry Christian and Jew women.

8. A woman cannot lead prayers.

9. Woman's testimony is half of a man.

10. A woman has to cover her hair. A man has no such obligation.

11. Women cannot lead nations.

The list goes on and on. The false claim that Islam gives women more rights can be easily debunked in 2 minutes.

Very good and accurate post

 

[SalimBhai]

He largely took things out of contexts. For example, he wrote something like men hitting wives.

He was making it sound like Islam encouraged violence against females. That is not the case.

In Islam, husband is encouraged to treat wife well. It is Sunnah for a husband to help his wife in household duties. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) never hit his wife.

Also in Islam a man is allowed to hit his wife lightly Why don’t u mention that

 

[SalimBhai]

No one slaps their wives or daughters quoting above

You have some issues with Islam it seems.

Islam does not encourage violence against women. That is correct. What is also true is in the Quran states you can best your wife slightly. That’s just a fact. In the real word I assume people ignore the later part and behave better

 

[sweep_shot]

This guy is a typical ex muslim who seems to be taking his frustrations out on Islam.

He probably believes that if his daughter behaves like a slut, it is okay because it is her freedom of choice. West and their obsession with freedom, even if that said freedom leads to society becoming corrupt and immoral.

Indeed.

Radical liberals tend to reject normalcy. These people have hijacked Western media, education system, politics etc. We are now seeing how messed up society has become.

Anyway, good to see western women are embracing the light despite all the anti-Islam propaganda. I wish them all the very best.

 

[topspin]

[MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] This isn't the right platform to be debating Islamic rules and principles. Go to a qualified scholar instead.
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] you're no scholar, so leave it to the experts to respond to their queries.

 

[The_KING]

Every single point I made can be proved from Quran and Hadith.

Women can do everything that men can and the same is true the other way around. Yours is an obsolete belief that has no place in the modern world. I have personally known successful working women supporting their kids financially as well as some great dads who took the responsibility of raising kids.

Let people chose their path rather than telling them what they cannot do.

Yes, modern society where kids are being brainwashed into thinking that it is okay to change their gender. Modern society where there are over 100 genders. Modern society where a lot of the people don't even know whether they are a man or a woman. Modern society where women's worth is defined by her sex appeal. Indeed, my views have no place in the immoral modern western society.

You can't prove anything. You don't understand Islam in the slightest. You clearly have some issues with Islam.

 

[MenInG]

[MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] This isn't the right platform to be debating Islamic rules and principles. Go to a qualified scholar instead.
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] you're no scholar, so leave it to the experts to respond to their queries.

I agree.

 

[The_KING]

Indeed.

Radical liberals tend to reject normalcy. These people have hijacked Western media, education system, politics etc. We are now seeing how messed up society has become.

Anyway, good to see western women are embracing the light despite all the anti-Islam propaganda. I wish them all the very best.

I love it when these ex muslims and Islamophobes get all worked up over people converting to Islam. It's a shame that their narrow minded view of Islam isn't shared by the many converts to Islam.

 

[The_KING]

But under patriarchal systems like Abrahamism, men hold pretty much all the power.

I find your post oversimplifying, and frankly fifty years out of date. I’ve had several excellent women bosses in my time, and met a couple of house husbands In couples where the woman is an engineer or lawyer and therefore has greater earning power than the man.

You post makes it seem like I have saying that women can't work. Islam doesn't prohibit women from working.

 

[Robert]

You post makes it seem like I have saying that women can't work. Islam doesn't prohibit women from working.

If a belief system has a god but no corresponding goddess, certain male attributes will be elevated (domination, competition, violence) and female attributes suppressed (compassion, caring, co-operation). This is my problem with one-god systems such Abrahamism.

 

[Robert]

This guy is a typical ex muslim who seems to be taking his frustrations out on Islam.

He probably believes that if his daughter behaves like a slut, it is okay because it is her freedom of choice. West and their obsession with freedom, even if that said freedom leads to society becoming corrupt and immoral.

This is a standard patriarchal attitude - female sexuality is a threat, therefore feared, therefore must be chained down with restrictive rules.

 

[Poseidon]

Allah has no gender. so asking about why thres no Goddess is a useless debate .

 

[sweep_shot]

If a belief system has a god but no corresponding goddess, certain male attributes will be elevated (domination, competition, violence) and female attributes suppressed (compassion, caring, co-operation). This is my problem with one-god systems such Abrahamism.

God in Islam is neither male nor female. God created male and female. God is nothing like any of his creation.

Literal meaning of Allah is "the One who should be worshipped".

 

[SalimBhai]

God in Islam is neither male nor female. God created male and female. God is nothing like any of his creation.

Literal meaning of Allah is "the One who should be worshipped".

God has no gender in Islam is correct . But if you Reese the Quran as a non Muslim it’s clear ,it’s very clear it written by men.

 

[The_KING]

If a belief system has a god but no corresponding goddess, certain male attributes will be elevated (domination, competition, violence) and female attributes suppressed (compassion, caring, co-operation). This is my problem with one-god systems such Abrahamism.

God doesn't have a gender. And neither does God have attributes similar to the attributes of a normal man or woman.

 

[The_KING]

This is a standard patriarchal attitude - female sexuality is a threat, therefore feared, therefore must be chained down with restrictive rules.

What nonsense. In any civilised and moral society, promiscuous behaviour will be looked down upon. Being a slut isn't something to be proud of. But of course, you are one of those who will play the sexist card, if a woman is called out for sleeping around with various men.

 

[SalimBhai]

Women and men have biological differences and different challenges.

Islam has given women their due rights and men their due rights. Every ruling has wisdom behind it.

You are not debunking anything.

What does biological differences have to do with testimony is court ??

 

[SalimBhai]

You haven't debunked anything
Please note that equality does not equal identicality. There are other aspects where the the women seem to have the "nicer deal". No financial responsibility, no need to protect, no need to go out to war, dowry given by men and not women etc etc.
If an exam has 10 questions and they are 5 marks each, 2 people can score exactly the same in total by scoring differently in different questions.

What is the reason for a women testimony being half?

 

[SalimBhai]

If Islam is so oppressive, why are there so many western women converting? Even Latino women have started to convert in big numbers.

Let's have a look at testimony of one of the female western converts:

So many women are not converting. They are also conveying to other religions. Also most convert due to marriage to a Muslim guy. Most likely to call his parents down. Seen it many times. Applies to other religions also. Not just Islam.

 

[szrana007]

Could you point to where it says that? I read the report . The main theme is Islam is growing due to high birth rate. They also discuss that these patterns can change as Muslims countries get more educated women will have less children. Also when they get educated there is a chance they will move away from religion . They only place I see conversions is

All told, the unaffiliated are expected to add 97 million people and lose 36 million via switching, for a net gain of 61 million by 2050. Modest net gains through switching also are expected for Muslims (3 million), adherents of folk religions (3 million) and members of other religions (2 million). Jews are expected to experience a net loss of about 300,000 people due to switching, while Buddhists are expected to lose nearly 3 million.

Pew report says Islam will gain millions of converts from 2015-2050.

 

[SalimBhai]

Ijtehad allows for interpretation.

You can go to jail for hitting your wife in all Islamic states. That is more important than trying to throw in ways of demeaning Islam.

Can you go to jail for hitting a woman in Afghanistan?Pakistan? Saudi? I am genuinely asking a question. I highly doubt it about Afghanistan

 

[sweep_shot]

God has no gender in Islam is correct . But if you Reese the Quran as a non Muslim it’s clear ,it’s very clear it written by men.

Quran was from God.

Men didn't write it.

 

[Poseidon]

so the brother [MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] has achieved something which no historian could have achieved in the history by exposing the Islam .
but why the new converts read dozens of books before converting .

he reads dozens of books. and did his research, befor converting . and he was anti-islam .
so what was your research ? or you just use google as your main source .

 

[MenInG]

Can you go to jail for hitting a woman in Afghanistan?Pakistan? Saudi? I am genuinely asking a question. I highly doubt it about Afghanistan

You are asking a serious question? or is this one of those disingenuous swipes at Islam?

Pretty poor post.

 

[szrana007]

Not because of converts. Islam grows mostly through having multiple kids. Growth by conversion is very minimum. If 5000 people convert every year and 3000 people leave every year, the net gain is only 2000. An insignificant amount when you consider the overall population of Islam runs in Billions.

Annually 5000 people convert to Islam in UK alone, and thats just one country,lol

 

[SalimBhai]

Quran was from God.

Men didn't write it.

Yes Muslims believe that. Non believers dont and to us when you read it it clearly sounds like its written by men

 

[SalimBhai]

You are asking a serious question? or is this one of those disingenuous swipes at Islam?

Pretty poor post.

I have stated it as a serious question . Islamic council allows for men to beat women lightly in Pakistan. Does that mean all pakistani men are wife beaters and it’s open season on women. I don’t think so.

 

[szrana007]

God has no gender in Islam is correct . But if you Reese the Quran as a non Muslim it’s clear ,it’s very clear it written by men.

Yet many people convert to Islam, after reading the Quran.

 

[SalimBhai]

Annually 5000 people convert to Islam in UK alone, and thats just one country,lol

Yes. But according to the report you posted . The main reason for islams growth is high birth rate. The conversation aspect is so low that it makes not much difference. This is all according to the the pew reports you posted. Maybe it’s a good idea to read it.

 

[SalimBhai]

Yet many people convert to Islam, after reading the Quran.

People convert to Hinduism after reading the holy texts. People convert to Christianity reading the Bible. People convert to humanism by reading books in humanism. That aspect that you describe is not unique to Islam.

 

[The_KING]

God has no gender in Islam is correct . But if you Reese the Quran as a non Muslim it’s clear ,it’s very clear it written by men.

Yes, that is why so many people who read the Quran as non-Muslims and become Muslims after reading it.

 

[szrana007]

It will soon overtake believers by the end of the century. It has picked up quite drastically in the past few decades.

Look at Western nations. They have pushed church to the corner and they are still doing pretty good.

Lol, atheists aren't overtaking s##t . Its projected to decline according to the Pew research report.

 

[MenInG]

Lol, atheists aren't overtaking s##t . Its projected to decline according to the Pew research report.

What a wonderful example of Islam's defence.

Please read some basics on Iklhaq before defending Islam.

 

[SalimBhai]

Yes, that is why so many people who read the Quran as non-Muslims and become Muslims after reading it.

Yes that would apply to any religion. Would it not. People convert to Hinduism also by reading it texts also. And you are not a believer in Hinduism right. So why are people so impresssed with it and convert?

 

[Waq]

For those who are making the topic about Islam saying you can use violence against women - do you really believe that any religion or holy book supports unjust / uncalled violence?

I don’t believe in Hinduism but still believe that its teachings in its pure sense is peaceful.

 

[Robert]

What nonsense. In any civilised and moral society, promiscuous behaviour will be looked down upon. Being a slut isn't something to be proud of. But of course, you are one of those who will play the sexist card, if a woman is called out for sleeping around with various men.

Because it is a sexist statement. Your post is dripping with misogyny and fear of female sexuality. Who a woman chooses to sleep with is not your business, nor mine.

A healthy society would ask what need the promiscuity tries to satisfy. Typically a desperate tearing need for love.

 

[szrana007]

What a wonderful example of Islam's defence.

Please read some basics on Iklhaq before defending Islam.

I apologize for using the S word, it was in the heat of the moment.

 

[The_KING]

Yes that would apply to any religion. Would it not. People convert to Hinduism also by reading it texts also. And you are not a believer in Hinduism right. So why are people so impresssed with it and convert?

More people convert to Islam than any other religion though.