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[VIDEOS] Are the think-tank not getting the best out of Asif Ali?

This poor lad copped it a bit from the crowd today. Not easy fielding on the boundary line. But he kept his calm.
 
Asif might be close to Misbah due to Faisalabad alliegance but he is fast hitting last chance saloon. It appears both Khushdil and Ifti Baba are more consistent performers, just need to chance to exhibit this.
 
In my opinion they are getting the most out of him - which is what he is poor mans Afridi.
 
In a country which lacks fire power down the order, Asif Ali is a must. What Asif Ali should be doing is develop his bowling skills so that he has something to fall back on in case he fails with the bat so that the scrutiny can be minimized
 
Asif Ali wont last long as he cant bowl.

The worst thing to happen to our cricket will be if he fires in one of the 3 T20's against Australia.
 
I really dont get Asif Ali's role in the team.

He has less output with his batting than even Shahid Afridi, but Afridi had very good bowling to compensate.

Its funny when Asif is out there and isnt able to land bat on ball, he forces the accumulators to go for boundaries.

Whats the point of a specialist hitter that cant hit?
 
He is simply not international standard. You put him in any team under any management and they will not be able to get anything out of him. Simply doesn’t have the ability to play at the top level.

His domestic stats over a large sample tell a story. They can be misleading but when you have pitiful averages in all formats there is something wrong with you.
 
Slim said:
Nah, not really. Asif Ali is just plain rubbish and club level. Hes a poor mans Afridi who cannot bowl and score more than 6 runs which tells you that even calling him a poor mans Afridi is an over statement.

The team management doesnt holds his bat whens hes batting that he skies the ball every time to the midwicket for a catch.

Hes useless.
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Like i said.
 
Mamoon said:
He is simply not international standard. You put him in any team under any management and they will not be able to get anything out of him. Simply doesn’t have the ability to play at the top level.

His domestic stats over a large sample tell a story. They can be misleading but when you have pitiful averages in all formats there is something wrong with you.
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I would play him over Malik and Hafeez if it were a binary choice
 
He needs to play ahead of Rizwan and be dropped if he can’t play like a proper batsman
 
Asif Ali in right handed version of Raina. Both had just one scoring slog sweep shot
 
Pete Rose said:
I would play him over Malik and Hafeez if it were a binary choice
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You would play your grandma over Hafeez and Malik, your hatred for both is well known and thus your opinion cannot be taken objectively.

If i am objective, Hafeez is better than Asif but i would rather not have both.
 
Slim said:
You would play your grandma over Hafeez and Malik, your hatred for both is well known and thus your opinion cannot be taken objectively.

If i am objective, Hafeez is better than Asif but i would rather not have both.
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My gramma would do better than Hafeez when playing outside Asia and not playing Australia England or South Africa.
 
Imad's dismissal encapsulates Pakistan's biggest weakness & one that will be exacerbated on large Australian grounds at the World Cup: a lack of power. On a regular sized ground Imad's shot would probably have cleared Smith & the ropes but here he needed a huge hit. #AUSvPAK
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
Imad's dismissal encapsulates Pakistan's biggest weakness & one that will be exacerbated on large Australian grounds at the World Cup: a lack of power. On a regular sized ground Imad's shot would probably have cleared Smith & the ropes but here he needed a huge hit. #AUSvPAK
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Another reason was that he couldn't get the full swing of the bat as it was very full, he had to almost shovel it out and he lost power due to that. If it was pitched 2 feet behind then he would have gotten a better swing of the bat and more power into the shot and woud have cleared the rope.
 
He has been tryed in multiple situations and positions and hasn't performed. They are getting the best out of him, his best just isn't international quality.

Also our think tank (super coach) seems to have lost his mind, or never had one.
 
Khushdil must have been horrible in the nets in Aus wickets otherwise it's insane to pick Asif over him.
 
Slim said:
You would play your grandma over Hafeez and Malik, your hatred for both is well known and thus your opinion cannot be taken objectively.

If i am objective, Hafeez is better than Asif but i would rather not have both.
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Never mind Hafeez or Malik, I am genuinely struggling to find an international batsman who is poorer than Asif Ali.
 
muhammad saad said:
Khushdil must have been horrible in the nets in Aus wickets otherwise it's insane to pick Asif over him.
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Or maybe he is kept out due to the fact that Misbah and Asif Ali are good friends. Misbah was the one that got Asif into Islamabad United.
 
Slim said:
Nah, not really. Asif Ali is just plain rubbish and club level. Hes a poor mans Afridi who cannot bowl and score more than 6 runs which tells you that even calling him a poor mans Afridi is an over statement.

The team management doesnt holds his bat whens hes batting that he skies the ball every time to the midwicket for a catch.

Hes useless.
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That's the whole truth about him. A batting line up having both Asif Ali, Iftikhar ahmed is a very weak one. We can't afford both of them, now our batting line up is just 3 batsmen plus Rizwan & Imad.
 
blackanhyellow said:
I really dont get Asif Ali's role in the team.

He has less output with his batting than even Shahid Afridi, but Afridi had very good bowling to compensate.

Its funny when Asif is out there and isnt able to land bat on ball, he forces the accumulators to go for boundaries.

Whats the point of a specialist hitter that cant hit?
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Exactly, he was found out when he failed in Asia cup, he cost Pakistan, the Australia world cup Match by dropping easy Catches. But somehow he keeps getting selected. Part of the reason is the Pakistani fans who obsess over strike rates and dismiss every batsmen who God forbids plays a dot ball (even when it is a 50 over match). We badly need a strong finisher in the middle order, and we have none. I will take Hafeez over Asif Ali in a heartbeat .
 
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He should be opening tbh. He's better against pace and can take advantage of the powerplay with most of the fielders packed in.
 
ahmadharis1 said:
He should be opening tbh. He's better against pace and can take advantage of the powerplay with most of the fielders packed in.
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I agree with making Asif open the innings given his preference for pace.

Playing Imam ahead of Fakhar in T20 will be a disaster as Imam's game is very similar to Babar and you need a dasher at the top along with Babar.

Lets see what management does but Asif for Fakhar could be a good choice given the current squad.
 
No one else to try in T20s atm. No other Pakistani batsmen hits big and makes consistent runs under pressure in PSL except Kamran Akmal who ain't coming back. He didn't exactly look like a pure slogger either in PSL, was controlled hitting.

So few of our batsmen can even hack it at PSL, and if you can't perform there, you're unlikely to be able to do it internationally. PSL is the closest thing to international limited overs cricket for us, higher standard of bowler, pressure scenarios. I don't think it's coincidence most of our batsmen struggle there, yet score in national T20 cup for fun.
 
ads101 said:
No one else to try in T20s atm. No other Pakistani batsmen hits big and makes consistent runs under pressure in PSL except Kamran Akmal who ain't coming back. He didn't exactly look like a pure slogger either in PSL, was controlled hitting.

So few of our batsmen can even hack it at PSL, and if you can't perform there, you're unlikely to be able to do it internationally. PSL is the closest thing to international limited overs cricket for us, higher standard of bowler, pressure scenarios. I don't think it's coincidence most of our batsmen struggle there, yet score in national T20 cup for fun.
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PSL playing XI's are a big mess and believe me we are not going to produce any batting talent through PSL unless they change something.

We have 6 teams and there are 6 Batsmen/hitters per team.
That makes a total of 36 Batsmen per team. In every team, if not 4, at least 3 places are taken by overseas players. So approximately 20 out of the 36 batting spots are taken by overseas.
The rest 16 are for Pakistanis, and most of them, actually all of them are taken by already known players.

The biggest problem is that some of those overseas Batsmen are in the XI's just because they are overseas. The likes of Madsen playing over Umar Amin is complete Madness. And lot of other examples like this of undeserving overseas players taking batting places in PSL teams.
 
He's becoming a bit of a Shahid Afridi with the bat. Wild slogs, throwing his wicket away, time after time.
 
Saj said:
He's becoming a bit of a Shahid Afridi with the bat. Wild slogs, throwing his wicket away, time after time.
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I’d say that’s a compliment to Asif Ali. At least Afridi would give you one in a million match winning performances/big scores.

Asif Ali has yet to display any kind of consistency, he has probably delivered 2-3 times by fulfilling the role of power hitting. Otherwise he has been extremely poor and running between the wickets today was awful. Must be dropped, about time.

This also shows the level of quality being played at PSL level. No player seems to be settling at International level that has come directly from PSL. It’s like promoting a player from Coca Cola League 2, to the Premier league.
 
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You guys dont realise but this is good news for Pakistan that Asif Ali has failed again.

Hopefully his selection will now be put to bed.
 
He is a typical domestic T20 bully. You will see he will start performing again in PSL, lol.
 
The guy needs to reinvent his game as an opener in T20s. Fakhar needs to reinvent himself as a number 5.

Fakhar is fooling all of us with his ability as a dashing opener. He gets a max strike rate of 120-130 on a good day out for him.
 
MenInG said:
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we've already seen his cricketing IQ at display in the WC. he just isnt good enough.

below avg fielder and batter. shouldve never been picked after that WC
 
55* off 28 in BPL - a score of some importance after many games.
 
Seems to be a once in a blue moon type player these days.

Should have been a lot better than what he is turning into.
 
Sher Khan said:
Frustrating player. But vital for us due to a lack of options.
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What? What is vital about his 15 off 10 innings. He's a nothing player, okay for domestic T20 leagues, not nearly good enough for internal cricket.

He has one 40+ knock in 24 T20I's - and an inflated average of 18 because a quarter of his innings end in not-outs. Else he'd be averaging around 12
 
Saj said:
I don't think he is vital.

Are players who perform once in ten or fifteen innings really vital?
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Vital due to his power hitting ability. His issue is his shot selection and his temperament. He showed in the England series that his consistency is improving. Pakistan needs a player like Asif Ali at 6/7. Pakistan do not have maxwells or Buttlers.
 
Thinktank can do nothing, its Asif who has to learn that not every bowl is going for SIX, modern day bowlers are not fools, they practice hard how to got rid of big hits. Asif needs to learn the art of running between the wickets, put pressure on fielders,bowlers and Captain and then sneak a SIX or Four between that. How hard is to understand that theory Asif Saab !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Vital due to his power hitting ability.
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No point having alleged power-hitting ability if all you do is just slog wildly and have no game awareness most of the time.
 
Saj said:
No point having alleged power-hitting ability if all you do is just slog wildly and have no game awareness most of the time.
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Have a feeling that his time is up - Misbah and Co will be looking at alternatives.
 
His BPL performances etc don't mean anything anymore. Rubbish player. Needs to be dropped.
 
Time to move on from him. He’s a poor man’s Afridi with the bat, can’t bowl, and one of the worst fielders around.
 
He should never have been given a chance in Pakistan's team he hasnt even won 1 game in this years psl am mediocre as faheem Ashraf
 
Boils my blood reading this thread or when I see someone including Asif Ali in their proposed squad.
 
Wow, still people want this in their team..

Asif Ali and Faheem Ashraf : so pathetic

At least Akmals/ Shehzads play one innings in blue moon

Faheem Ashraf, Asif Ali, Misbah Ul Haq, Aquib Javed : Too much gratitude from PCB/PSL management
 
Abdullah719 said:
81 runs in 7 innings in PSL 5 with a highest of 20*.
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Not surprised at all.

He's been turned into a once in a blue moon slogger. He wasn't exactly Bradman when he first came into international cricket, but at the moment he's a club level blind slogger.
 
Before he at least used to be good in the PSL but rubbish in internationals. Now he's just rubbish. Good riddance
 
In Islamabad United check stat of all players. You'd see barring Shadab all players' strike rate has gone down. As Shadab has come up the order. Asif Ali is not the only one, see Rizwan Hussain yesterday or Faheem or even Amad Butt. This is one person Misbah behind all these failures.
 
He will be 29 this year and averages less than 30 in every format at domestic level. What did people expect from him?

Domestic stats are not everything, but if you are in your late 20s and have atrocious stats in all formats after a sizable sample, it is clearly obvious that you cannot play at the professional level.

He is just a club level batsman. Nothing more.

Ahsan Ali is the same, and it is a joke that both have played international cricket. The Pakistani cap clearly means nothing these days.
 
Needs to sort his head out.

Also too much mickey mouse cricket, play a few slogs and you are the next best thing.

He's not improved at all and before you know it, people work you out.
 
Saj said:
Needs to sort his head out.

Also too much mickey mouse cricket, play a few slogs and you are the next best thing.

He's not improved at all and before you know it, people work you out.
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I know when he played against austrlia in the t20s when babar was in the opposite end he played a big shot and got out and babar was fuming maybe hes not wanting him in the squad.

Khushdil and iftikhar are better batters and they can bowl azwell.
 
Problem with Asif and other such players is that PCB seem to identify them as talents and then dont do much to make sure they stay on path to improvement.
 
Not quite been the same since his daughter passed away.

I feel for the guy.

It must have hit him hard and it can't be easy to overcome such a tragedy.
 
MenInG said:
Problem with Asif and other such players is that PCB seem to identify them as talents and then dont do much to make sure they stay on path to improvement.
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But his domestic stats never proved he was special.
 
Will be part of CPL in next season - needs to do something special there to make himself useful for Pakistan in the future.
 
He was never a cricketer to begin with, more of a baseball player. Can get 2-3 balls out of the park, if you give him 3 chances (strikes) to bat

Calling Asif a domestic bully would be an insult to actual domestic bullies like Kamran Akmal
 
He has the ability to succeed in t20s but needs to be more sort of street smart,circumspective and thus consistent.
I like it when he hits those good length deliveries on the rise back over bowler.Requires a different skill,most importantly a good sight of the ball till last moment.
 
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Situation getting worse for Asif Ali in recent times.

His latest effort 5 (9) in last night's game!

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114 runs in 8 innings at an average of 16.28 and a strike rate of 111.76

Dear me, what's happened to this guy.
 
Been keeping a close eye on him during the CPL and I have to say he has not performed at all.

The calibre in general is pretty low standard and the games have not been very high scoring. A good run of 20 plus runs per game is what was expected but unfortunately he has not stood up to the test.
 
Pak think-tank dont have the ability to bring the best out of no one, in fact they bring the worst out of most if not everyone who are raw promising young players,

so the hard work to develop their individual game needs to be done by the player himself which is again looks difficult,

the only exception is Babar Azam who have become a great batsman by developing his game by only his own hard-work
 
Geil said:
Pak think-tank dont have the ability to bring the best out of no one, in fact they bring the worst out of most if not everyone who are raw promising young players,

so the hard work to develop their individual game needs to be done by the player himself which is again looks difficult,

the only exception is Babar Azam who have become a great batsman by developing his game by only his own hard-work
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Rizwan has also improved his game.
 
Asifs problem is that unlike Afridi he doesn't bowl or field well to mask his failures with the bat. A failure with the bat renders him a big liability straight away
 
He really was never that good at all lol. He's got one big shot which he managed to make the most of when he was an unknown entity.

Since then he's quite clearly been figured out as a limited batsmen with little cricketing intelligence.

The CPL is incredibly low standard this year, aeons below international level.
 
He just seemed really unfit and over weight. Wasn't agile enough to succeed in modern white ball cricket.
 
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