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"Asian cricketers do get judged quicker than others and people do write you off quicker" : Moeen Ali

Amid a backdrop of racism claims in the national game, the all-rounder tells Saj (for isport) what can be done so more minorities reach the top


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Moeen Ali would be the first to admit that his recent form for *England has been below par, but the all-rounder has one particular memory to treasure from an unusual season.

Captaining England last month in the third T20 against Australia in Southampton was a career highlight – and one that Moeen hopes could inspire Asian cricketers in future.

“It was a strange summer with everything going on, and while it wasn’t a memorable period for me, I managed a couple of good performances here and there,” he tells i. “Captaining England was a very proud moment for me that I will never forget.

“It was a dream come true. I guess we will only realise in future just what an impact it will have had on young Asian cricketers. Considering my background and where I am from, I think it’s quite an achievement to have captained England. I don’t look at it from the point of view of me being the first Muslim to captain England, rather I take the view that it’s about who I represent and what I represent.”

Recent allegations about the plight of some Asian cricketers in the UK have highlighted the problems faced by minorities at the highest levels of the game. Moeen feels that players such as himself have a duty to act as role models.

“I think Adil Rashid, Saqib Mahmood and I have a responsibility to inspire and to open doors in people’s minds,” he says. “Young Asian cricketers can look at us and see that playing for England is not impossible, it’s a realistic prospect and that anything can be achieved if you really put your mind to it.”

Azeem Rafiq’s allegations of institutional racism at Yorkshire have raised some worrying issues and led the county to appoint a sub-committee to investigate the claims. Birmingham-born Moeen feels that the treatment of cricketers from ethnic minorities has improved, but Yorkshire will need to adequately investigate the issues raised and ensure that such matters are resolved.

“It seems that Azeem has been through a lot and if what he is saying is correct then something has to be done,” he says. “Azeem and the club need to be open about the situation, come together and try to break down those barriers that have possibly existed at the club.

“Things have changed now, not just in English cricket but around the world and in society as a whole, and nobody should have to accept such behaviour.

“If Azeem has suffered, then it’s a massive shame and something has to be done about it. I don’t see why Azeem and Yorkshire County Cricket Club cannot get together and work things out for future generations of Asian cricketers, so these types of accusations don’t rear their ugly head again.”

Moeen says racist abuse has been directed at him at some venues but he is confident that things have improved considerably in this regard around the world. “Over the years I have experienced racist abuse from sections of the crowd in some parts of England and also in Australia, particularly during the early stages of my career. It was definitely harder at some venues and I’d feel the hostility and abuse regularly at those grounds. But I believe that things have moved on in most parts of the world and this is something that has definitely changed for the better nowadays.”

Despite his optimism, the proportion of Asian players making it to county level and beyond is minimal. But Moeen says this is not entirely the fault of the system.

“The lack of Asian cricketers coming through the system and into cricket isn’t just the fault of the counties. I believe that part of the blame is the lack of understanding from Asian cricketers and their families of what is actually required to become a professional cricketer.


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“It’s not just about batting and bowling, there’s more to playing cricket than just that. There is a whole attitude which goes towards playing cricket professionally.

“But having said that, Asian cricketers do get judged quicker than others and people do write you off quicker than everybody else.

“Both parties are guilty to an extent, but I do find it surprising that more Asian cricket talent is not coming through from places such as Bradford, Birmingham, London and Manchester.

“Sometimes the issue of culture comes into it and just because as a coach you have Asian cricketers who don’t relate to you, that should not mean you cannot handle them. You have to develop and learn about other people’s cultures and understand how people work, which I think some coaches fail to do.”

Recent pictures of a Muslim cricketer who represents Essex having alcohol poured over him at Lord’s have resulted in apologies from captain Tom Westley. For Moeen the issue confirms the need for improvement in the education of young cricketers.

“I don’t entirely blame the Essex cricketer who poured alcohol over his Muslim team-mate recently at Lord’s,” he says. “If you look at the example of Adil Rashid and I stepping aside at the World Cup celebrations, the awareness and education is out there.

“Many people will already know that as Muslims we don’t drink or associate with alcohol, but perhaps there is a need to increase the education within English cricket for younger players, as some will not know about the Muslim culture.

“It was probably an innocent mistake from a young man who will no doubt learn from the experience.”

The Indian Premier League has recently commenced in the UAE due to health concerns brought on by the presence of COVID-19 in India. Moeen is once again part of the star-studded Royal Challengers Bangalore squad and is hopeful that he can display his skills in a tournament that he feels is amazing.

“We’ve got a very good side at Royal Challengers Bangalore, including Virat Kohli, AB de Villiers and Aaron Finch. We’ve made a decent start but it’s unfortunate that I’ve not had a chance yet after doing so well last year for them. But when new coaches come in, they have new ideas and there have been changes within the squad too. In a long tournament like this you have to be patient and wait for your chance. I was in this position a couple of years ago and had to bide my time, be patient and keep knocking on the door. It’s an amazing tournament and there have already been some brilliant matches and incredible individual performances. It’s just great that people can watch such a high-quality tournament at such a difficult time for everyone.”

Moeen would be the first to admit that his recent form for England has been below-par, but the Worcestershire all-rounder is still hopeful of playing a role for his country in all three formats in future.

“I’m regularly in touch with Joe Root and the coaching staff. There is just so much uncertainty regarding future tours so it’s difficult to say what tours will take place and when. If the selectors want me, then of course I will play in whatever format they pick me for. I’m 33 now so I know that I’m no longer a young man. You have to be realistic as you never know when your last international game will be, so my philosophy is that I just want to play for England as much as I can in future in any format they want me to.”

https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/moeen-ali-interview-england-cricket-captain-worcestershire-676452
 
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I feel Moeen just one good performance away to regain his confidence and be back in the reckoning for England LOI sides.
 
More Asian players need to be given fair chances in counties. I don't buy the argument that they are not good enough. There is a pretty big contingent of Asians in places like Bradford and Birmingham - they need equal treatment.
 
Think it's not right to use asian players as a catchall term for this issue. I might change my opinion when more than a few Indian/Lankan/Bangladeshi players raise grievances similar to those as pakistani players.
 
Not just cricket but every walk of life. You need to be three times better than any native citizen to get picked for the same role. And that's fair.

Moeen says wise words, but rich coming from someone who is quite mediocre and has been given a lot of opportunities.
 
Not just cricket but every walk of life. You need to be three times better than any native citizen to get picked for the same role. And that's fair.

Moeen says wise words, but rich coming from someone who is quite mediocre and has been given a lot of opportunities.


Are you sure bud? How else do you explain then that British law firms are picking the left overs at NUJS ( law school in kolkata) but even more curiously they are fast tracked to partnership overwhelmingly?
 
Its a game of runs and wickets. He needs to score when he gets his chance and take wickets. He is lucky to be in the England squad based on his recent performances
 
Not just cricket but every walk of life. You need to be three times better than any native citizen to get picked for the same role. And that's fair.

Moeen says wise words, but rich coming from someone who is quite mediocre and has been given a lot of opportunities.

It’s fair to be three times better for the same role, just because of the color of your skin?
 
Most of the racism in todays world belongs in the mind of minorities. The vast majority of people don't care about your race, stop creating invisible enemies.
 
Look at the careers of Asian cricketers how quickly they were messed around in and out of team, then look at their counterparts its a real issue.

Did Ian Bell, Graham Hick have more chances than Ramprakash, Owais Shah.
Its not just England.

Look at Australia... Usman Khawaja getting the same opportunities as counterparts....

There is a fine line sometimes it maybe unintentional but it exists.... Facts and Figure would bear this out.... by now.....
 
An average cricketer carries a chip on his shoulder and blames outside forces. Moeen and Khwaja fall in that category. When have they performed consistently in long run ? Both are bog average. Moeen had good first few years but now he has been found out. Khawaja has just 1 test century outside and his returns in Australia have diminished with time.
There may be bias against Asians but these two have got ample opportunities.
They were not able to cash in. These boys are crying wolf now.
 
No where has Moeen stated that he didn't get a fair chance. Seems a few reading things in his interview which he hasn't said.
 
Most of the racism in todays world belongs in the mind of minorities. The vast majority of people don't care about your race, stop creating invisible enemies.

Yes let's downplay actual instances of raicsm, where michel holding cries while talking, where players talk about commiting suicide. Its all in the mind of course

I thknk the biggest enemies of Asians are Asians themselves. They have such an inferiority complex that they feel that the majority race is superior and irs ok if they are treated as second class citizens. So in their mind as long as they are not slaves they can be treated badly and thats ok and they should shut up and take it. The previous generation has especially been brought up to believe in this mentality. But the current generation is much braver and have more self respect so they are hitting back
 
Yes let's downplay actual instances of raicsm, where michel holding cries while talking, where players talk about commiting suicide. Its all in the mind of course

I thknk the biggest enemies of Asians are Asians themselves. They have such an inferiority complex that they feel that the majority race is superior and irs ok if they are treated as second class citizens. So in their mind as long as they are not slaves they can be treated badly and thats ok and they should shut up and take it. The previous generation has especially been brought up to believe in this mentality. But the current generation is much braver and have more self respect so they are hitting back

I'm talking generally. I can't speak for Azeem or Michaels personal experiences. I'm talking about this "Asian cricketers get judged harder" generalization and attitude. Which British Asian cricketer is giving extraordinary performances and being left out for it? Nobody. A statement like this only discourages a young kid, who thinks "I shouldn't even take up the game, the white man will always hold me back". Again, creating invisible enemies.
 
Look at the careers of Asian cricketers how quickly they were messed around in and out of team, then look at their counterparts its a real issue.

Did Ian Bell, Graham Hick have more chances than Ramprakash, Owais Shah.
Its not just England.

Look at Australia... Usman Khawaja getting the same opportunities as counterparts....

There is a fine line sometimes it maybe unintentional but it exists.... Facts and Figure would bear this out.... by now.....

What a load of nonsense. Hick and Ramprakash were given similar opportunities and Hick showed himself to be the more competent international cricketer. Bell and Shah were trying to break into very strong batting lineups. Bell capitalised on his early opportunities whilst Shah was very poor in the similar opportunities he got in comparison.
 
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Moeen raises an interesting point that it is not just counties that are responsible for Asian players not breaking through but an equal fault of Asian families not understanding what it takes to become a professional sportsman.

This to me is a key reason that we as Asians neglect and are quick to dismiss.

Talent only gets you so far and this is no different to those PP’ers who work for the top financial companies such as Price Waterhouse Coopers. It wasn’t just your 1st class degree that got you in and / or promoted but your interpersonal skills and networking ability and PROFESSIONALISM.

If a Bradford Asian young man has talent then that may work in mercurial counties such as Pakistan but won’t lead to success in England where they want to see a rounded character too.

You can call it what you want but I call it ‘playing the game’. Moeen and his family must of played it and others have to if they wish to hit the top levels.
 
“Both parties are guilty to an extent, but I do find it surprising that more Asian cricket talent is not coming through from places such as Bradford, Birmingham, London and Manchester.

Interesting point.

You go to parks and cricket clubs in these cities and they will be full of talented Asian cricketers, but where is that talent going, why is it not making it to the top?

Is it fair to just blame the scouts and the system, perhaps Asian lads and their families want success handed on a plate to them?
 
What a load of nonsense. Hick and Ramprakash were given similar opportunities and Hick showed himself to be the more competent international cricketer. Bell and Shah were trying to break into very strong batting lineups. Bell capitalised on his early opportunities whilst Shah was very poor in the similar opportunities he got in comparison.

Hick was ATG county player....

Bell was given so many chances ... more than other asian players... even Ballance was give more opportunities....

But it doesn't matter what I say.... Facts and figures will prove me wrong or right....
 
Interesting point.

You go to parks and cricket clubs in these cities and they will be full of talented Asian cricketers, but where is that talent going, why is it not making it to the top?

Is it fair to just blame the scouts and the system, perhaps Asian lads and their families want success handed on a plate to them?

Not really they want a fair chance....

I have so many players continuously brushed aside... that you only make it if your face fits...
Its been going on for a long long time....

Yorkshire I am sure would have at least 4-5 players in the first team if selection was fair and based on talent only.

Lets not talk about Warwickshire.... its Worcester that actually picks some asian players from local regions... Warwick something is not right....

for both clubs as the nest generation comes in... the next 10 years will see a doubling of asian talent in both these clubs I believe.
 
Most Asian cricketers have been poor for England and it goes against the myth that they have to be twice as good as a white player to get a chance.

Also, the more mediocre an Asian player is, the more likely like he is going to whine about racism and play victim.

Moeen regularly plays victim because it gives him an opportunity to deflect the attention away from his shocking performances in the last couple of years.

He basically sabotaged England’s World Cup campaign and they only started winning when he was kicked out. He should consider himself lucky that he is still getting picked in white ball cricket.

It is not surprising that someone like Adil Rashid has never (or rarely) whined about racism and he didn’t even back up Rafiq’s accusations regarding Yorkshire CCC.

Adil Rashid knows he doesn’t need to play any cards. He is a vital member of the England setup and carries his own weight as a key performer.

He is a proper role-model for Asian cricketers. No complaining, no whining, no victim cards. Regardless of your skin color and ethnicity, it is about performing on the pitch at the end of the day, and he does that quite consistently.
 
Not really they want a fair chance....

I have so many players continuously brushed aside... that you only make it if your face fits...
Its been going on for a long long time....

Yorkshire I am sure would have at least 4-5 players in the first team if selection was fair and based on talent only.

Lets not talk about Warwickshire.... its Worcester that actually picks some asian players from local regions... Warwick something is not right....

for both clubs as the nest generation comes in... the next 10 years will see a doubling of asian talent in both these clubs I believe.

Warwickshire is just incredible.

So much Asian talent under their nose, with local leagues packed full of Asian cricketers, yet hardly any of it makes it to County cricket.
 
Not the best of starts for Moeen in this year's IPL.

Out for 11 off 13 balls.
 
Brother Moeen clearly a talented cricketer but just isn’t the most enthusiastic for the big occasion.
 
Hick was ATG county player....

Yes, just like Ramprakash who got a similar opportunity to him despite Hick outperforming him at international level.

Bell was given so many chances ... more than other asian players... even Ballance was give more opportunities....

As we've already established the closest Asian equivalent to Bell in his early career was Owais Shah, the difference between them was 1) Bell was pushing into a team where a potential spot in the batting order was opening up and 2) Bell took his chances and performed when given them unlike Shah.

Ballance was the standout batsman by a mile in county cricket and then performed brilliantly in his early test career and was dropped when he was later found out. Heck, he still averages nearly 40 in test cricket.

Lets not talk about Warwickshire.... its Worcester that actually picks some asian players from local regions... Warwick something is not right....

Who was the last Asian player to come through the system at Worcestershire?
 
I've experienced this as a Pakistani-American and my other Asian friends have experienced the same. We get treated worse than Blacks and Latinos because we're not as numerous as them. There's strength in numbers. The blacks among us don't help our case.
 
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Yes, just like Ramprakash who got a similar opportunity to him despite Hick outperforming him at international level.



As we've already established the closest Asian equivalent to Bell in his early career was Owais Shah, the difference between them was 1) Bell was pushing into a team where a potential spot in the batting order was opening up and 2) Bell took his chances and performed when given them unlike Shah.

Ballance was the standout batsman by a mile in county cricket and then performed brilliantly in his early test career and was dropped when he was later found out. Heck, he still averages nearly 40 in test cricket.



Who was the last Asian player to come through the system at Worcestershire?

Moeen, Kabir Ali..... but Warwick is shameful.... considering the the local leagues..... the players at the club are not the best available.... the club needs an external review
 
Moeen, Kabir Ali..... but Warwick is shameful.... considering the the local leagues..... the players at the club are not the best available.... the club needs an external review

Yes it's incredible given all the Asian talent in the Birmingham area and playing in the Birmingham leagues.
 
Moeen, Kabir Ali..... but Warwick is shameful.... considering the the local leagues..... the players at the club are not the best available.... the club needs an external review

Moeen came through the system at Warwickshire... Kadeer Ali and Aneesh Kapil are the only 2 Asian cricketers I can think of off the top of my head that have come through the Worcestershire system and debuted this century.
 
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He has been rubbish for a long time. What does he expect people to say? When you are not performing you will be criticized. I cannot remember Moen admitting that he has not been good enough. All he has done is blame everyone else for his own shortcomings.
 
I think people who are not from uk or those who don’t have any idea or experience of club cricket and how youth county cricket works etc should refrain from making quick judgements as if they know everything and also refrain from making ignorant comments based on Moeens Ali’s recent performances.
 
Warwickshire County Cricket Club has graduated pace bowler Manraj Johal from its Academy to the professional ranks.

Johal, 19, currently takes the new ball in the Birmingham & District Premier League for West Bromwich Dartmouth and been a Bear since the under 11s age group. He graduates after a year in the Warwickshire Academy and two years in the Emerging Player Programme (EPP).
 
Meanwhile Adil Rashid's thoughts on the issue:

“I have always felt that if you are good enough you will get the chance, whatever race or religion you are,” he said. “However, I do look at the leagues in Yorkshire and wonder why more Asian lads are not coming through. They have the aspirations and dreams to play county cricket and need to make the most of the opportunity which I feel is there for all.

“It would please me no end to see more home-grown Asian boys from Leeds or Bradford making it at Yorkshire and I’d be really happy to see in future a Yorkshire team made up of several Asian lads in the starting XI. Seeing more Asians making it at Yorkshire would really tighten the bond between the club and the Asian community in the region.”

While many factors have been given for the absence of Asian names among county line-ups, the role of parents in encouraging and supporting their children is vital and one that Rashid can relate to with his own father’s example.

“My advice to young Asian cricketers is to first and foremost enjoy playing the game, give your all and don’t lumber yourself with the worry of playing professionally,” Rashid said. “I would also advise Asian parents to do all they can for their children if they want to play cricket professionally. I recall that my father did so much for me when I was growing up and the sacrifices he made were huge. He would drive a taxi through the night, come home, have a couple of hours’ sleep, and then take me around the country to wherever I was playing for Yorkshire’s junior sides. He would stay with me all day while I was playing cricket, drive me home and then he would go out to work again.

“You don’t become a professional cricketer overnight. The level of support and dedication from parents has to be there throughout and it has to be there from a young age. If the level of dedication isn’t there or the parents haven’t got the time to support their child with his or her dream, then it’s going to be difficult for that child to make it. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why more Asian cricketers aren’t coming through the system.”

https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/adil-rashid-interview-england-test-cricket-best-spinner-714716
 
IPL not that great for Moeen


Out for a duck on a free hit!


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Horrible IPL for Moeen, He didn't play many games, but he failed to make an impact in any game.

These are his performances:

11 (12) and 1/21 (2 overs)

1 (2) and 0/17 (2 overs)

0 (1) and 0/4 (1 over)

Average of 4 (SR 75) with the bat and average of 42 with the ball with 8.4 economy.
 
An extremely mediocre cricketer and a choker of highest order. There were good reasons for not showing enough believe on him but unfortunately Kohli had no other options.
 
They didn’t give him consistent chances and i think he got run out in 2 matches.He was very good in the previous season of IPL.He should have played more games but they keep picking that trundler isuru udana instead of him.
 
CAPE TOWN (Reuters) - Moeen Ali still wants to play test cricket for England after conceding he had lost the hunger for the five-day game, but is desperate to feature in The Ashes against Australia next year.


The spinning all-rounder lost his place in the test side after recording match figures of 3/172 against the Australians in Birmingham last year, a game the tourists won by a massive 251 runs.

Ali, 33, bore the brunt of that defeat, and said test cricket lost some of its appeal as a result.

“A year-and-a-half ago I lost that hunger to play test cricket, but I feel like over the last six months it is coming back,” Ali told reporters on Wednesday.

“I have been thinking a lot about my game and if the call did come, I would be keen on it. I have not retired or anything, but probably have just taken a step back from the test game.”

Ali took five wickets at an average of 115 in the 2017-18 Ashes series in Australia, which began to sow the seeds of doubt on his position, and admits he could have been better prepared for the contest.

“I went there on the back of being in some of my best form for England,” he said. “I was confident, but I probably didn’t do as much planning as I should have and could have.”

The all-rounder has 181 test wickets and 2,782 runs, including five centuries, but for now is concentrating on the shortest format with two Twenty20 World Cups in the next two years.

He is currently with the England team in South Africa for a six-match limited overs tour that starts on Nov. 27.

“There is an opportunity to be one of the greatest sides ever and to be part of that is something I would like to do,” he said.

“I must just play as much cricket as I can and play as best as I can.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...i-still-yearns-for-test-cricket-idUKKBN27Y1BH
 
Needs to go back to county cricket and prove he's actually still good enough. Really should be the same in ODI cricket as well.
 
Moeen Ali says he "hand on heart" has not experienced the racism that has been alleged of the English game in recent months.

Former umpires John Holder and Ismail Dawood this week added their voices to concerns raised by Michael Carberry and Azeem Rafiq.

"I have never experienced anything like that," said England all-rounder Moeen.

"There are other guys who say they have and I am sure things have and will be done about it."

In June, former England batsman Carberry said racism is "rife" in the sport, with the England and Wales Cricket Board subsequently saying it would "commit to change" in response to the Black Lives Matter movement.

Rafiq accused his former team Yorkshire of "institutionalised racism" and the county have since opened an inquiry.

This week, Holder and Dawood pointed to the fact that the last appointment of a black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) umpire to the ECB's first-class list came 28 years ago.

Dawood, meanwhile, said he had heard racist language used in front of senior ECB staff, which went unchallenged.

Speaking at the beginning of England's tour of South Africa, Moeen said: "I can honestly say, hand on heart, that I have never experienced anything like that.

"I have always been someone who is myself and if guys accept it that's good and if they don't, it's their problem.

"I have now been playing for England for six years and always felt at home, always felt like one of the guys."

With 200 appearances across all formats, Moeen is the most-capped player from a BAME background to have represented England.

In response to the issue surrounding match officials highlighted by Holder and Dawood, he said: "I'm sure something will be done.

"The ECB are improving in all these aspects of the game. Going forward, I think a lot will be done to get all these things right."

In response to the allegations, an ECB spokesperson told BBC Sport: "We will not tolerate racism. However, we fully recognise we have a long way to go to drive out discrimination from our sport.

"Alongside the learnings and the action we have already taken in this space through this summer, the ECB holds its November board meeting next week, where our continued work around inclusion and diversity will be discussed and further actions agreed."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/54987025
 
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Moeen speaking to the press today.

"Its massive (announcement of England tour to Pakistan); Having been there not too long ago, I know that it was an amazing experience to play PSL there; I am sure Pakistan will go all out to host (England) that, and we cant wait to go there in the future"

"The teams that came over, West Indies and Pakistan, did an amazing thing by going through the bubble - with Coronavirus Pandemic etc, cricket was on the edge; I think the tour to Pakistan was going to happen anyway but I think its right that we go back after such a long time, one for the game and also for cricket in that country"
 
People who live in UK and especially those of Asian roots can tell better about the situation better than many people here giving their two cents.

As for Moeen, I would love to have someone like him in Pakistan LOI team. Can give you 10 overs easily and is more than a decent hitter. If not for the talent England were blessed with especially of allrounders, Moeen would have been seen as a definite game changer. He is a well spoken guy and probably one of the nicest guys in English cricket too. Never heard anyone talking ill of the guy.
 
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Moeen speaking to the press today.

"Its massive (announcement of England tour to Pakistan); Having been there not too long ago, I know that it was an amazing experience to play PSL there; I am sure Pakistan will go all out to host (England) that, and we cant wait to go there in the future"

"The teams that came over, West Indies and Pakistan, did an amazing thing by going through the bubble - with Coronavirus Pandemic etc, cricket was on the edge; I think the tour to Pakistan was going to happen anyway but I think its right that we go back after such a long time, one for the game and also for cricket in that country"

Really nice to see them in a years time
Obviously alis input into his experiences with the sultans will have given the thumbs up to any further excursions by English players and teams
 
England have recalled Moeen Ali and Jonny Bairstow but rested all-rounder Ben Stokes and paceman Jofra Archer for the two Tests in Sri Lanka next month.

All-rounder Moeen, 33, has not played a Test since taking a break from cricket in 2019, while keeper-batsman Bairstow, 31, was dropped a year ago.

Uncapped Essex batsman Dan Lawrence is included, with Rory Burns absent as his wife is expecting their first child.

England play two Tests, both in Galle, starting on 14 and 22 January.

The tour was due to take place in March this year but was cut short because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Wicketkeeper Ben Foakes, who has not played a Test for almost two years, also features in a 16-man squad that includes three spinners in Moeen, Dom Bess and Jack Leach.

Stokes and Archer will return for the four-Test series in India starting in February.

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England squad: Joe Root (capt), Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Dom Bess, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler (wk), Zak Crawley, Sam Curran, Ben Foakes (wk), Dan Lawrence, Jack Leach, Dom Sibley, Olly Stone, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Reserves: James Bracey (wk), Mason Crane, Saqib Mahmood, Craig Overton, Matthew Parkinson, Ollie Robinson, Amar Virdi.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/55273780
 
India v England: Moeen Ali 'wouldn't wish Covid-19 on anyone'

England all-rounder Moeen Ali says he "wouldn't wish on anyone" his positive coronavirus diagnosis and two weeks of isolation.

Moeen was confined to his hotel room for much of England's recent tour of Sri Lanka, missing both Tests.

The 33-year-old is back in contention to play in the first Test against India in Chennai starting on Friday.

"I actually don't know how I got through those 14 days. It was tough," said Moeen.

The off-spinner is the only England player to have returned a confirmed positive test for coronavirus while on international duty.

"I had loss of taste for a day or so and splitting headaches for three days," he said. "My body was very sore and I've never experienced that sort of tiredness before in my life.

"It was three days feeling pretty rough and the rest was fine.

"The 14 days felt like they were dragging. The last four days in particular were very tough because I felt fine but I was just stuck in a room."

Moeen, a devout Muslim, says he will have the coronavirus vaccine when it is available to him.

There have been concerns that a spread of disinformation might discourage some members of the UK's south Asian community from being vaccinated.

"I'd take it and urge others to do it," Moeen said. "Having spoken to people who know quite a bit about it, I'd take it and get my family and others to take it.

"It's like any vaccine - there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there but it's just medicine evolving.

"In our community, people are sometimes not sure whether to take something - a bit cautious. But for things to get back to normal it's important that we do it."

Moeen has not played a Test since being dropped after the Ashes series opener against Australia in August 2019. He initially took a break from the longest form of the game, then struggled to regain his place before being recalled for the 2-0 series win in Sri Lanka.

"I still feel I've got wickets, runs and match-winning performances within me," said Moeen, who has scored 2,782 Test runs at an average of 28.97 and taken 181 wickets at 36.59.

In a bid to manage player workload and look after their wellbeing with so much time spent in bio-secure 'bubbles', England are employing a rotation policy across their winter tours.

Players who feature in all three formats are due to be rested at some point. Jofra Archer and Ben Stokes missed the Tests in Sri Lanka, Mark Wood, Sam Curran and Jonny Bairstow are sitting out the first two in India and Jos Buttler will return home after the series opener.

Moeen confirmed that he is due to be rested after the first two India Tests.

"It has felt like a long tour already so far," he said. "Once you start playing and things gets better, you're in a better frame of mind, so we'll see.

"At the moment I'm here for the first two games and depending on how things go, there's a chance I'll be going home after that."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/55841852
 
Video of Kohli getting cleaned

The delivery.

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Victim mentality with this guy. He's blessed with a lot of natural ability but lacks discipline on the field. He hasn't worked on his technical deficiencies either. Too much of this race card being played by colored people in the west.
 
Victim mentality with this guy. He's blessed with a lot of natural ability but lacks discipline on the field. He hasn't worked on his technical deficiencies either. Too much of this race card being played by colored people in the west.

An extremely ignorant post by someone who hasn't ever left Pakistan.
 
The delivery.

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Lol, Kohli's reaction!
 
So far 2 wickets in the game but being hammered by Indian batsmen
 
A lot of loose deliveries today.

In fact Root looks more threatening.
 
A lot of loose deliveries today.

In fact Root looks more threatening.

Mo should not have been picked in the circumstances, dropping Bess was ruthless. But now that they given Mo a chance they may be inclined for him to play the next Test to, he barely has any FC games behind him and the lack of control is not surprising, it is unfortunate he didn’t get to play in Lanka.
 
Mo has done nothing substantial for RCB over last three years, so can't rate him. This time he will be part of some other franchisee so let's see what he comes up with.
 
Mo has done nothing substantial for RCB over last three years, so can't rate him. This time he will be part of some other franchisee so let's see what he comes up with.

No one cares about the IPL, it is just a money making tournament. No loyalties.
 
Mo has done nothing substantial for RCB over last three years, so can't rate him. This time he will be part of some other franchisee so let's see what he comes up with.

Am surprised he has managed to even land contracts in recent times tbh
 
Victim mentality with this guy. He's blessed with a lot of natural ability but lacks discipline on the field. He hasn't worked on his technical deficiencies either. Too much of this race card being played by colored people in the west.

Agreed. I think he should be quite thankful that the team management seem to like him to the point where they disregard his failures. 60 test matches with a batting average of 29 and bowling average of 37. 106 ODIs with a batting average of 25 and a bowling average of 51. He should be the last one complaining about some sort of discrimination.
 
Agreed. I think he should be quite thankful that the team management seem to like him to the point where they disregard his failures. 60 test matches with a batting average of 29 and bowling average of 37. 106 ODIs with a batting average of 25 and a bowling average of 51. He should be the last one complaining about some sort of discrimination.

This line of thinking only makes sense if you haven't actually watched him play. England isn't a minnow team that would select a player if he was failing constantly. He was the highest wicket-taker in the world before he was dropped and has just come back with 8 wickets.
 
Moeen Ali st Pant b Kuldeep Yadav 43(18) [4s-3 6s-5]


Really went for gold but too little too late
 
Root on Moeen: "It was not about asking him if he wanted to stay. It was a decision he chose. He wants to get out the bubble and that is absolutely fair enough. We respect where he is at."
 
Moeen for me will always be an inspirational figure. To come from where he did that is inspirational for any young asian in the UK.

the way he gets treated by management is simply the way successful asians get treated in british institutions.

He has done incredibly to carve out a decent career and has won his fair share. Its a pity he couldnt become a regular batsman as I feel he had more potential there. Overall i would say he has been Englands most successful Asian cricketer.

Inshallah I'll visit his fish and chip shop in birmingham. (he said he would love to open one when his career ends)
 
In terms of the main theme of the OP, let’s be honest, if a white English cricketer in their comeback had taken 8 wickets in a Test match in India and top scored in the 2nd innings with a bunch of sixes — essentially the best player for England in this otherwise forgettable Test for them, as the team’s top wicket taker and top scorer across the four days — then he would be lauded all over the back pages as the next world-class all-rounder. But as it is, some people are still saying that Moeen isn’t even good enough to be in the team.
 
In terms of the main theme of the OP, let’s be honest, if a white English cricketer in their comeback had taken 8 wickets in a Test match in India and top scored in the 2nd innings with a bunch of sixes — essentially the best player for England in this otherwise forgettable Test for them, as the team’s top wicket taker and top scorer across the four days — then he would be lauded all over the back pages as the next world-class all-rounder. But as it is, some people are still saying that Moeen isn’t even good enough to be in the team.

Yup thats our story in the UK in a nutshell.
 
Moeen for me will always be an inspirational figure. To come from where he did that is inspirational for any young asian in the UK.

the way he gets treated by management is simply the way successful asians get treated in british institutions.

He has done incredibly to carve out a decent career and has won his fair share. Its a pity he couldnt become a regular batsman as I feel he had more potential there. Overall i would say he has been Englands most successful Asian cricketer.

Inshallah I'll visit his fish and chip shop in birmingham. (he said he would love to open one when his career ends)

One of the great test all-rounders the game has seen. Cricket is not a game of statistics but impact.

Moeen Bhai has been an inspiration for many many cricketers and will continue to be for many generations. Very few cricketers have an impact which Moeen bhai had.

A brilliant off-spinner possessing the class and elegance of David Gower with the bat. An iconic cricketer in my opinion.
 
In terms of the main theme of the OP, let’s be honest, if a white English cricketer in their comeback had taken 8 wickets in a Test match in India and top scored in the 2nd innings with a bunch of sixes — essentially the best player for England in this otherwise forgettable Test for them, as the team’s top wicket taker and top scorer across the four days — then he would be lauded all over the back pages as the next world-class all-rounder. But as it is, some people are still saying that Moeen isn’t even good enough to be in the team.

Yup thats our story in the UK in a nutshell.

The likes of Butler, Wood, Bairstow, Curran etc have all missed red ball cricket but pathetic how they are framing Mo ‘choosing’ to leave when this was his pre-agreed slot as part of England’s rest/rotation policy, on top of that he doesn’t even have a red ball contract and England clearly don’t see him even as a 2nd choice spinner; why expect a cricketer who you have never valued to go out of his way and put his well being 2nd. The media is horrible anyway but the captain could have used better words.
 
Moeen for me will always be an inspirational figure. To come from where he did that is inspirational for any young asian in the UK.

the way he gets treated by management is simply the way successful asians get treated in british institutions.

He has done incredibly to carve out a decent career and has won his fair share. Its a pity he couldnt become a regular batsman as I feel he had more potential there. Overall i would say he has been Englands most successful Asian cricketer.

Inshallah I'll visit his fish and chip shop in birmingham. (he said he would love to open one when his career ends)

Does Moeen Ali come from a poor background?

I'd have thought Nasser Hussain captaining England would have been the breakthrough moment. Don't both have one English parent and one Pakistani/Indian parent?
 
Moeen is lucky he has played so many tests for England and also gets a disproportionate amount of positive press coverage which is solely due him being a role model for his beard than any cricketing ability.

His treatment within the England dressing room is also exemplary and you can see the team is respectful of his beliefs.

English cricket has a lot of faults but its unfair to say Mo been mistreated. I think any cricketer of any race with a record so mediocre would be similar.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I thought Test cricket was the main priority after 2019 to make sure England try and get back the Ashes !!!!! Why is it then that the Test team is being swapped & changed every week but the T20 team are at full strength !!!!! Moeen now off home after 1 Test in 18 months !!!</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1361594705088286721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Some posters here praising moeen like he avgs 40 plus with the bat and 25 with the ball.

He has been pretty lucky to play for england as long as he has. He clearly isnt a great and anyone who thinks so has a severe bias.

Moeen has has many chances to cement his place but he is a bits and pieces player who couldnt get better even abter years of international cricket.

If he spent more time actually getting better and less time moaning and using his religious beliefs as an accuse of why he geta dropped maybe he wouldve gotten good enough to never be dropped.

Literally uses his skin color and religion as a tool to stay relevent. Im sure desis dont get the same treatment as the white kids. But if you actually a great/good player you would not get ignored.

Moeen had a lot of upside when he first got drafted into the side, but the fact is he hasnt gotten better as a bowler or batter to be considered as a great all rounder.

Whoever thinks he a great must think colin kaepernick is the 2nd best qb of all time lmao
 
Simple solution to get out of the bubble would be to ask Moeen to continue playing tests and then remove him from the T20 squad for rest. However, with one eye on the IPL it makes sense to come back for that and skip the tests
 
Does Moeen Ali come from a poor background?

I'd have thought Nasser Hussain captaining England would have been the breakthrough moment. Don't both have one English parent and one Pakistani/Indian parent?

Look up stoney-lane in birmingham. I used to live there. it is a proper working class asian street. His grandmother is white, my friends cousin is married to his sister and she is also related to wasim khan..(door paar ka rishta)

Nasser was seen has more gora so didnt have as much impact. Moeen is seen as more apna. If Samit Patel had made it big he would have been another one to break barriers as he's a proper leicester asian lad.

Im proud of Moeen. He stood tall, and people respect him due to his character. Not many can do that.
 
Moeen is a mediocre and mentally weak cricketer who is always crying and playing victim.

He is lucky to have played so many Tests because England have no proper Test spinners. If Swann was a generation younger, Moeen would not have a sniff.

Those who complain that he is a primarily a batsman and did not get a chance up the order need to realize that he was first drafted into the England team as a white ball opener in 2014-15.

However, he was completely average and flopped. When England changed their playing style after the 2015 World Cup and brought in the likes of Roy, Hales, Bairstow etc., Moeen couldn’t compete with and was rightfully demoted down the order.

Even in Tests, he was given the opportunity to open the innings on the dead UAE wickets against Pakistan in 2015 and he couldn’t buy a run.

He has no one to blame but himself. He never grabbed the opportunities with the bat and his supporters are always making excuses for him.
 
Not to mention he also single-handedly killed England’s chances of winning the 2019 World Cup. That campaign would have ended in heartbreak had England not kicked him out of the team.
 
Look up stoney-lane in birmingham. I used to live there. it is a proper working class asian street. His grandmother is white, my friends cousin is married to his sister and she is also related to wasim khan..(door paar ka rishta)

Nasser was seen has more gora so didnt have as much impact. Moeen is seen as more apna. If Samit Patel had made it big he would have been another one to break barriers as he's a proper leicester asian lad.

Im proud of Moeen. He stood tall, and people respect him due to his character. Not many can do that.

Unfortunately none of these guys - Samit Patel, Ravi Bopara, Moeen Ali, Vikram Solanki, Sajid Mehmood etc. are good with either bat or ball. As long as that is the case, no long term impact will happen.
 
Look up stoney-lane in birmingham. I used to live there. it is a proper working class asian street. His grandmother is white, my friends cousin is married to his sister and she is also related to wasim khan..(door paar ka rishta)

Nasser was seen has more gora so didnt have as much impact. Moeen is seen as more apna. If Samit Patel had made it big he would have been another one to break barriers as he's a proper leicester asian lad.

Im proud of Moeen. He stood tall, and people respect him due to his character. Not many can do that.

Thanks.
 
The first time I watched him bat, I thought he was going to be a gun player for England for many years to come. But he has never really fulfilled his potential with the bat, prone to having brain fa*t shots with the bat suddenly after looking comfortable for a long time.

At the end of the day, after playing 60 tests for England, he averages 28 with the bat and 36 with the ball. Don't think England has discriminated in any way against him, they actually have given him a long rope and I still don't think the ECB has given up on him completely in test cricket, although Dom Bess is challenging him for his spot. Will remember him as a wasted talent, alongside Shaun Marsh & Khawaja on whom I have similar feelings about (Marsh and Khawaja more so as they had a higher ceiling).
 
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