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[VIDEOS] "Asian cricketers do get judged quicker than others and people do write you off quicker" : Moeen Ali

Moeens fault.... I thought I would say it before the press do.

Obviously.... last three-5 years Moeen should have been playing consistently but the England Management playing with him.
 
As promised then, here is MOEEN ALI, he has been speaking to Ian Ward, firstly about the reason the umpire's took the players off...

"We weren't allowed the seamers, Joe obviously wanted to and then we had to come off. There was two parties, one wanted to stay out there, one wasn't so sure. It's going to be a tight game and these 10 or 20 runs could be crucial. But with the new ball in the morning, Jimmy having it, we're in a good position.

"It's a fantastic Test match, it's a great one for me personally to come back in to and be part of. Hopefully tomorrow morning we can bowl them out and then chase the runs down. I've loved it, it's been really good. Obviously, I haven't done much preparation but I feel like I did OK and played my part so far.

"As soon as I got the call I was buzzing to come back and play. Those kind of things [The Hundred] are always going to be there, Test matches are not always going to be there."
 
All-rounder Moeen Ali has been named as England Test vice-captain for the fourth LV= Insurance Test match against India at the Kia Oval starting on Thursday.
 
Moeen Ali hopes he can help his team-mates on the field and inspire his community off of it after being named as England's vice-captain for the fourth Test against India.

With Ben Stokes currently taking time away from the game in order to focus on his mental wellbeing, and Jos Buttler leaving the squad to prepare for the arrival of his second child, Joe Root has called on Moeen to be his new right-hand man for Thursday's game at the Kia Oval.

Root hailed Moeen as a "natural leader" with a "brilliant cricket brain" after choosing the 34-year-old all-rounder, who described himself as "buzzing" to get the nod.

"To captain or vice-captain England in any form is huge and I'm very excited," Moeen told reporters on Wednesday.

"I'll take the load off Joe a bit. He has got a lot on his plate. And the thing I take out of it is that they obviously consider me to be somebody who can do the job, or somebody who is experienced in the team now and has the character to be vice-captain."

Moeen's influence extends far beyond his own immediate circle. English cricket's relationship with race has been put under the microscope over the past 18 months, most notably with a series of disturbing allegations made by Azeem Rafiq against his former county Yorkshire.
during a T20 against Australia last September, he hopes his - and latest promotion - can serve as inspiration for others.

"It's part of the job," said Moeen. "To represent England as a British Asian is a huge honour for myself; you're representing a people, a group.

"I feel like I'm representing them. To be given this chance, I feel like they will be feeling that, in cricket, chances are given if you do the right things and you're showing the attitude towards the game."

Moeen was only recalled to the Test fold two games ago, with the second Test at Lord's his first on home soil in two years. He has taken four wickets and contributed 48 runs with the bat so far in the series.

With an Ashes tour potentially on the horizon this winter, Moeen is demanding more from himself in the final two Tests against India - the series currently tied at 1-1.

"I don't see it [vice captaincy] as my spot cemented, of course not.," Moeen said. "There are performances I need to put in going forward in the next two games in order to keep my spot in the team.

"That's all I want to do initially. With Australia, there's obviously a lot more information that we need, for players and families, for us to think about going there.

"At the minute, if it all takes place, then I'm obviously quite keen to go. But I want to cement my place in the team."

SKY
 
VC at the end of a long and quite successful career is a nice little send off but it is not a showcase of how Asian cricketers have been treated by the ECB, particularly in the test format.

For a period of 5 years, if not more, Rashid was the best first class spinner England had, barely played any test cricket and there were accusations of him not wanting to play which turned out to be false. Monty's time with the team ended after some of his drunken antics...yet Stokes is a hero and mental health awareness superman.

It seems one rule for some, another rule for the rest.
 
Moeen Ali needlessly gave away his wicket today - looked well settled and could have easily put England in a winning position had he stayed on.
 
VC at the end of a long and quite successful career is a nice little send off but it is not a showcase of how Asian cricketers have been treated by the ECB, particularly in the test format.

For a period of 5 years, if not more, Rashid was the best first class spinner England had, barely played any test cricket and there were accusations of him not wanting to play which turned out to be false. Monty's time with the team ended after some of his drunken antics...yet Stokes is a hero and mental health awareness superman.

It seems one rule for some, another rule for the rest.

Rashid made it pretty clearly that he was open to playing test cricket but didn't want to play 4 day county cricket which clearly isn't going to work. If you want to play test cricket you've got to be willing to play FC domestic cricket.

Monty's England career was already over by the time of this drunken incident, he was struggling in county cricket at the time.
 
Moeen needs to stop playing the victim card. That is what a lot of non white people have been doing after the events of last year.

The reality is that if you look at Moeen Ali's numbers for England, he is a bang average player. There have been white players with better numbers than Moeen, who didn't get anywhere near as many opportunities as Moeen has gotten.

In fact, I would argue that the big reason why Moeen is in the England team is because he is Asian. ECB like a lot of these woke liberals are trying to push this bogus narrative that they are all for diversity and inclusivity. They can't have an all white team now, can they?

Moeen needs to stop playing the victim/race card and thank his lucky stars that he is still in the England side.
 
Moeen Ali brought India back into the game yesterday with his stupid dismissal, idiotic shot selection that too against an ineffective Jadeja when they could have shut us out of the test.

To make matters worse Moeen was plumb LBW early in his innings but Indians didn't appeal, Bumrah was the bowler then but thought it was an inside edge when there was no bat involved. He couldn't make use of that luck, worse still he managed to find the dumbest way to get out when Indian shoulders were dropping.

Such irresponsible cricket from an experienced player, that too vice-captain. He owes his team 3-4 big wickets this innings.
 
Moeen Ali is an average batsman, average bowler, and he even missed an easy run out chance. If England lose this match, he is the main culprit.
 
He is very, very average.

Mentally weak, rarely plays according to the situation. Extremely inconsistent.

As a batsman he is never two balls away from doing something dumb, and he has never bowled like a proper spinner.

England had to kick him out of the side in the World Cup 2019 to get their campaign back on track, and they need to move on from him in Test cricket as well to balance the team.

He does not balance the side; au contraire, he creates imbalance because his presence simultaneously weakens the batting and bowling.
 
He is very, very average.

Mentally weak, rarely plays according to the situation. Extremely inconsistent.

As a batsman he is never two balls away from doing something dumb, and he has never bowled like a proper spinner.

England had to kick him out of the side in the World Cup 2019 to get their campaign back on track, and they need to move on from him in Test cricket as well to balance the team.

He does not balance the side; au contraire, he creates imbalance because his presence simultaneously weakens the batting and bowling.

Didnt he help to smash Ind 4-1 last time. Maybe you can message Kohli and tell him the good news
 
Didnt he help to smash Ind 4-1 last time. Maybe you can message Kohli and tell him the good news

He only had two good series. The one against India and against South Africa in 2017. Other than that, he has been a liability.

This mental midget staying in the England team is the actual good news for the opposition. In fact, he has single-handedly put India in the driving seat in this game.

First with a circus clown shot that would have embarrassed Afridi. It was a critical moment in the game and England could have batted India out of the game if he didn’t go for an ugly slog, and with the bowl he has gone at over 4 runs an over.

I don’t need to deliver any good news to Kohli. Moeen is the good news for India right now.
 
He only had two good series. The one against India and against South Africa in 2017. Other than that, he has been a liability.

This mental midget staying in the England team is the actual good news for the opposition. In fact, he has single-handedly put India in the driving seat in this game.

First with a circus clown shot that would have embarrassed Afridi. It was a critical moment in the game and England could have batted India out of the game if he didn’t go for an ugly slog, and with the bowl he has gone at over 4 runs an over.

I don’t need to deliver any good news to Kohli. Moeen is the good news for India right now.

A good series is a good series and he destroyed them and in the process helped to humiliate them 4-1. If you are claiming he is average then what does that say about Ind? Lol
 
A good series is a good series and he destroyed them and in the process helped to humiliate them 4-1. If you are claiming he is average then what does that say about Ind? Lol

Lol the average cricketer outbowled Ashwin who I bet this poster thinks is better then Imran.
 
Interestingly, Moeen has 183 test wickets and five centuries so he must have been effective some of the time.
 
Moeen always seems to be one of the first names on the list as designated scapegoat whenever England have a bad day/match/series. The reasons for this are not entirely cricket related imo.
 
He is as skillful as Jadeja but latter is comfortably a superior all-round cricketer.
 
Moeen always seems to be one of the first names on the list as designated scapegoat whenever England have a bad day/match/series. The reasons for this are not entirely cricket related imo.

Do you think someone like Dom Bess (Not Leach) would have done worse than him?
 
A good series is a good series and he destroyed them and in the process helped to humiliate them 4-1. If you are claiming he is average then what does that say about Ind? Lol

An average player can have a good series. That is the point.

You look at Moeen’s entire career and the word that best describes his career is mediocre.

And if we talk about white ball cricket, he was a on a mission to destroy England’s World Cup campaign. They were playing with 10 men until he was kicked out which put their campaign on track.

No member of the squad was less deserving of the winners medal, except for perhaps James Vince.
 
Lol the average cricketer outbowled Ashwin who I bet this poster thinks is better then Imran.

In almost every series, you will find a certain average cricketer outperforming a top cricketer.

When you look at their entire careers, Moeen is not good enough to tie Ashwin’s shoelaces, who is a legend.
 
Moeen always seems to be one of the first names on the list as designated scapegoat whenever England have a bad day/match/series. The reasons for this are not entirely cricket related imo.

It works both ways James.

Moeen is by far the most celebrated - and talked about - “mediocre” cricketer of the past decade, and it has pretty much everything to do with non-cricketing reasons.

Unfortunately, people only choose to see one side of the coin when it comes to Moeen. If he is criticized it is because he is being scapegoated for non-cricketing reasons, but no one thinks about why an average cricketer like him gets so much support and fanfare to begin with.
 
He is as skillful as Jadeja but latter is comfortably a superior all-round cricketer.

Not sure as I agree as Jadeja has done little in this series. And Moeen has five centuries to Jadeja’s one. If Moeen had been born Indian he would have more test runs and wickets.
 
It works both ways James.

Moeen is by far the most celebrated - and talked about - “mediocre” cricketer of the past decade, and it has pretty much everything to do with non-cricketing reasons.

Unfortunately, people only choose to see one side of the coin when it comes to Moeen. If he is criticized it is because he is being scapegoated for non-cricketing reasons, but no one thinks about why an average cricketer like him gets so much support and fanfare to begin with.

Because since Swann retired he has been England’s best spin bowler, and also has five test centuries.
 
Because since Swann retired he has been England’s best spin bowler, and also has five test centuries.

Which is fine. He be considered as the least terrible spin-bowling all-rounder in England over the past 6/7 years, but let’s not pretend that he is actually good because he clearly isn’t.

The drop in quality from Swann to Moeen can make one’s stomach churn.
 
Not sure as I agree as Jadeja has done little in this series. And Moeen has five centuries to Jadeja’s one. If Moeen had been born Indian he would have more test runs and wickets.

Jadeja averages 43 with bat and 21 with bowl in Australia. He has struggled only in this series.

Moeen has a pretty mediocre career everywhere but in Australia, it is even worse and he doesn't get into his team's XI which Jadeja gets into quite comfortably.
 
Jadeja averages 43 with bat and 21 with bowl in Australia. He has struggled only in this series.

Moeen has a pretty mediocre career everywhere but in Australia, it is even worse and he doesn't get into his team's XI which Jadeja gets into quite comfortably.

He was average in UAE as well.
 
Good LOI cricketer. I remember there was a fun thread here that said list of average cricketers Pakistan team has made to look good, I guess if there was a Indian version of that thread, Moeen would be one of the leading names :))
 
He needs to put out of his misery. The guy cannot handle even the slightest of pressure.

Moeen Ali has a lot of talent and ability but mentally he is the weakest international cricketer I've ever come across.
 
Another failure when his teams needs him. People keep defending this victim playing mentally weak player. He can’t handle pressure
 
We are playing with 10 men because of Rahane.

England returning the favor big time.

Moeen has had a shocker this test, his dismissal on day 2 ensured England couldn't shut us out of the game. That after a plumb LBW reprieve which India didn't appeal. Very irresponsible shot against harmless bowling of Jadeja.

Then tripe bowling, 118/ 2 in 26 overs, at least he could have been tight like our spinner.

Easiest missed run out opportunity, helped Pant get a 50.

Duck today.

I think England should go for 5 quicks or get in Leach for Manchester. Leach was impressive in India and must be backed keeping away Ashes in mind.
 
Come on England. Release Moeen so that he can train with his CSK mates. Win-win situation for everyone involved. He'll be in top form before the T20 WC.
 
Moeen is nothing more than a bits and pieces cricketer who has had the odd flash in pan good performance with bat or ball.
 
Moeen needs to do better. He is in the same boat as Rahane: Non-performing Vice-captain.
 
We are playing with 10 men because of Rahane.

England returning the favor big time.

Moeen has had a shocker this test, his dismissal on day 2 ensured England couldn't shut us out of the game. That after a plumb LBW reprieve which India didn't appeal. Very irresponsible shot against harmless bowling of Jadeja.

Then tripe bowling, 118/ 2 in 26 overs, at least he could have been tight like our spinner.

Easiest missed run out opportunity, helped Pant get a 50.

Duck today.

I think England should go for 5 quicks or get in Leach for Manchester. Leach was impressive in India and must be backed keeping away Ashes in mind.

Ironic that English commies kept mentioning how Ashwin is dropped in Oval (rightly so) but I didn't hear much or anything at all about Leach.

He was hard done by.
 
Don't understand why Nasser Hussain kept complaining about Root not bowling Moeen in the later part of the Indian 2nd innings. He had figures of 26-0-118-2. His economy rate was 4.53. Seems obvious that Root was afraid he would prove expensive with the Indian middle and late order swinging their bats.
 
Not sure as I agree as Jadeja has done little in this series. And Moeen has five centuries to Jadeja’s one. If Moeen had been born Indian he would have more test runs and wickets.

Jadeja has 227 Test wickets at an average of 24.96. At one time he was ranked the #1 Test bowler.

Ali has 195 Test wickets at an average of 36.66.

With the bat, Jadeja average 34.04, while Ali averages 28.29.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/ravindra-jadeja-234675

https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/moeen-ali-8917

If Moeen had been born Indian, he would not have more test runs and wickets simply because neither his batting nor bowling is good enough for him to have made the Test team.
 
195 wickets now, only behind Underwood and Swann in the list of England spinners with most test wickets.

Moeen always seems to be one of the first names on the list as designated scapegoat whenever England have a bad day/match/series. The reasons for this are not entirely cricket related imo.

195 wickets, but at an average of 36.66. How many others bowlers have had the chance to play enough to take 195 wickets while averaging 36.66?

He has 5 centuries, but an average of 28.29 with the bat.

He has had a couple of good series when he helped his country win, but is clearly a liability otherwise with averages like these.
 
There was a time when Moeen had a decent home record and below par away record.

For me he’s the worst international cricketer I’ve seen play 60+ tests.
[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] - even you can’t disagree with this.
 
If Moeen had been born Indian he would have more test runs and wickets.
Had Moeen been an Indian, he won't have made it to the Indian team. When someone like Ashwin is cooling his heels in dressing room, what chance would Moeen have to make it to Indian team?
 
He is very, very average.

Mentally weak, rarely plays according to the situation. Extremely inconsistent.

As a batsman he is never two balls away from doing something dumb, and he has never bowled like a proper spinner.

England had to kick him out of the side in the World Cup 2019 to get their campaign back on track, and they need to move on from him in Test cricket as well to balance the team.

He does not balance the side; au contraire, he creates imbalance because his presence simultaneously weakens the batting and bowling.
England has this obsession to pick bowlers who can bat. Hence the selections of Moeen Ali and also perhaps Overton.
 
Some huge sixes on the way to a half century in the T20 World Cup semi-final against New Zealand:

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So Moeen has been awarded with an OBE for a decade of mediocrity in international cricket.

Eligibility criteria for MBEs and OBEs for English cricketers:

1. Must be deeply mediocre
2. Must be mentally-weak
3. Must have chickened out of international cricket at least once
4. Must have been pounded in an Ashes series in Australia at least twice

You tick all 4 boxes and you will be rewarded for your services to English cricket.
 
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So Moeen has been awarded with an OBE for a decade of mediocrity in international cricket.

Eligibility criteria for MBEs and OBEs for English cricketers:

1. Must be deeply mediocre
2. Must be mentally-weak
3. Must have chickened out of international cricket at least once
4. Must have been pounded in an Ashes series in Australia at least twice

You tick all 4 boxes and you will be rewarded for your services to English cricket.

Bitterness gets people nowhere. It's not Moeens fault you've achieved nothing bar bickering and being bitter.
 
Moeen Ali's achievements have made all Asians proud - Inshallah he will continue to do well.
 
Looking forward to hearing from Moeen on the radio commentary tomorrow as special guest! (Test Match Special — UK)
 
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