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Suleiman said:
Our fans have such short memories :))

Sarfraz had the same strike rate issues towards the end of his international career that Rizwan has. He averaged less, and had a lower strike rate. Struggled to clear the fence. Now we want him back? What are we, reducing reuse and recycling for the good of the environment?

Rizwan deserves the criticism he has copped in the WC and in the last 2-3 months. This however just shows blind hatred, because you want to replace him with a like for like replacement.

We have Haris now. And should invest in new keeper batsmen. It’s time to stop going backwards every year.
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No blind hatred

Rizwan is a below par T20 opener, and is a failed middle order batter

Sarfaraz is a better middle order batsman than Rizwan, or do you have anything to suggest he isn’t?
 
Rana said:
That’s more than acceptable as a middle order batsman

Better than averaging 25 with a sr of 100 as an opener in the World Cup
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If we had opened with Haris or Fakhar we'd be champions just now unfortunately we are stuck with the 'chota' duo.
 
Rana said:
That’s more than acceptable as a middle order batsman

Better than averaging 25 with a sr of 100 as an opener in the World Cup
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Sarfaraz Ahmed was hopeless as a middle or lower order batsman and struggled for more than 2 years towards the end of his career. Not just T20s but all other formats as well.

Almost half of the batters struggled to play on these Australian pitches. Superstars like Rohit and Rahul had trouble scoring runs in the PP, but for some reason you all are stuck at Rizwan and Babar.
 
Rana said:
It’s ok bro. This too shall pass

Surely there is ease after hardship
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Not if you keep making the same mistakes. Sigh we were gifted a final and we threw it away.

Be surprised if we get another final in this decade our two bogey teams Australia and India won't be so poor again.
 
Caved12 said:
Sarfaraz Ahmed was hopeless as a middle or lower order batsman and struggled for more than 2 years towards the end of his career. Not just T20s but all other formats as well.

Almost half of the batters struggled to play on these Australian pitches. Superstars like Rohit and Rahul had trouble scoring runs in the PP, but for some reason you all are stuck at Rizwan and Babar.
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But he held the team together brilliantly

He was a great leader. Records speak for themselves

Rizwan was the beneficiary of some dirty politics by Misbah ul Haq

The world can overlook this injustice, I will not. Never ever!
 
Rana said:
But he held the team together brilliantly

He was a great leader. Records speak for themselves

Rizwan was the beneficiary of some dirty politics by Misbah ul Haq

The world can overlook this injustice, I will not. Sarfraz was never the no.1 ranked batsman in T20 and he never had the ability to be
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salman24 said:
Rana said:
But he held the team together brilliantly

He was a great leader. Records speak for themselves

Rizwan was the beneficiary of some dirty politics by Misbah ul Haq

The world can overlook this injustice, I will not. Sarfraz was never the no.1 ranked batsman in T20 and he never had the ability to be
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Sarfaraz world number 1 ranked batsman ho ya na ho…Pakistan ko koi farq nahi parhta

His team was the number 1 ranked team in the world.

That’s the bottom line.
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Rana said:
No blind hatred

Rizwan is a below par T20 opener, and is a failed middle order batter

Sarfaraz is a better middle order batsman than Rizwan, or do you have anything to suggest he isn’t?
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Rizwan is a below par t20 opener, I agree. Nor is he anything to write home about in ODIs for now, though imo he has a better chance of success in ODIs and tests.

Sarfraz is not better either. As I said you’re replacing one below par t20 player with another. Go back to why it is that Sarfraz was dropped. He is just as poor as Rizwan if not worse.

He’s good Vs spin only but awful Vs pace.

Sarfraz has a higher ODI average than Rizwan only due to to his purple patch end of 2014 to early-mid 2015, otherwise there’s no separation between their stats. How can you even vouch for Sarfraz in t20s when he himself is in mid 120s SR like Rizwan?

Come on man. I would love to replace Rizwan with someone better, but Sarfraz is definitely NOT that guy.
 
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Rana said:
But he held the team together brilliantly

He was a great leader. Records speak for themselves

Rizwan was the beneficiary of some dirty politics by Misbah ul Haq

The world can overlook this injustice, I will not. Never ever!
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Not true at all. He was not allowing his bowlers to think for themselves and was a dictator, one of the reasons why our bowlers stopped getting better and he also had a losing streak going on in every format of this game. PCB had no choice but to remove from the leadership role.

Actually the dirty politics kept Rizwan away for a long time and his fellow countrymen thought that they should further humiliate him and pick Chadwick over him, especially at a time when Rizwan showed all kinds of signs of an improved and a better player.
 
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]

He was a specialist captain from 2017 onwards. You’re revising the hell out of our cricket history.
 
Caved12 said:
Not true at all. He was not allowing his bowlers to think for themselves and was a dictator, one of the reasons why our bowlers stopped getting better and he also had a losing streak going on in every format of this game. PCB had no choice but to remove from the leadership role.

Actually the dirty politics kept Rizwan away for a long time and his fellow countrymen thought that they should further humiliate him and pick Chadwick over him, especially at a time when Rizwan showed all kinds of signs of an improved and a better player.
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The decision of picking Chadwick was 100% correct

Chadwick was a six hitting middle order keeper/bat. Rizwan was and is not a six hitting middle order batsman. Sorry, Imad was right. He wanted to win a PSL trophy, not make people happy.
 
Not in tests. We dont have a WK to replace Riz if he gets injured so SA gets at least this season. Haseebullah has some runs behind him and is competent as keeper but non of the replacements are ideal
 
Suleiman said:
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]

He was a specialist captain from 2017 onwards. You’re revising the hell out of our cricket history.
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So be it. Captaincy, knowing how to lead a side is a gift that he had and he was successful in this role
 
Suleiman said:
Rizwan is a below par t20 opener, I agree. Nor is he anything to write home about in ODIs for now, though imo he has a better chance of success in ODIs and tests.

Sarfraz is not better either. As I said you’re replacing one below par t20 player with another. Go back to why it is that Sarfraz was dropped. He is just as poor as Rizwan if not worse.

He’s good Vs spin only but awful Vs pace.

Sarfraz has a higher ODI average than Rizwan only due to to his purple patch end of 2014 to early-mid 2015, otherwise there’s no separation between their stats. How can you even vouch for Sarfraz in t20s when he himself is in mid 120s SR like Rizwan?

Come on man. I would love to replace Rizwan with someone better, but Sarfraz is definitely NOT that guy.
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What is your issue with Sarfaraz having a sr of 120 as a middle order batter?

Rizwan even during his peak cannot cross 130 as an opener. He would be striking at 100 or less if he is slotted into the middle.

As I may have said somewhere, throwing Rizwan into the middle order now would be akin to throwing a juvenile inmate into a fully adult prison.
 
Rana said:
The decision of picking Chadwick was 100% correct

Chadwick was a six hitting middle order keeper/bat. Rizwan was and is not a six hitting middle order batsman. Sorry, Imad was right. He wanted to win a PSL trophy, not make people happy.
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22 sixes in year 2022.

Chadwick is a nothing player as compared to Rizwan and he continued to get exposed in every T20 league after Karachi picked him over Rizwan. Even in the PSL final, he scored 21 of 27 with only one boundary at a strike rate of 81.
 
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Caved12 said:
22 sixes in year 2022.

Chadwick is a nothing player as compared to Rizwan and he continued to get exposed in every T20 league after Karachi picked him over Rizwan. Even in the PSL final, he scored 21 of 27 with only one boundary at a strike rate of 81.
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Oh well. He made history that year when he was preferred over Rizwan and they won the PSL
 
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]
Wasim Akram and Imad Wasim did everything in their power to keep Rizwan away from the playing 11. Wasim is a very toxic person and is the destroyer of the dressing room environment. Imad was not fair to Rizwan and was treating him like a kid and nobody, telling him that he is a top order batsman, but sending him at 7 or 8 whenever he picked him for his team. Poor Rizwan never got a fair chance. Shame on them for treating their own player like a piece of garbage. This is the only reason why I started supporting Rizwan and made predictions a year ago that he was going to win the next Psl.
 
Caved12 said:
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]
Wasim Akram and Imad Wasim did everything in their power to keep Rizwan away from the playing 11. Wasim is a very toxic person and is the destroyer of the dressing room environment. Imad was not fair to Rizwan and was treating him like a kid and nobody, telling him that he is a top order batsman, but sending him at 7 or 8 whenever he picked him for his team. Poor Rizwan never got a fair chance. Shame on them for treating their own player like a piece of garbage. This is the only reason why I started supporting Rizwan and made predictions a year ago that he was going to win the next Psl.
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I can’t do Badzani. I have nothing on record to suggest what you say is true besides KK winning the trophy with Rizwan on the bench and Babar not as captain.

It is painful to see these things I guess if your favourite player is a bigger priority than the team. That’s why the team winning covers these things up.

Do you think people like me who hate Rizwan and Babar opening have any leg to stand on if Pakistan won the World Cup and Asia cup?
 
Sarfraz is done and dusted

His haters can carry on banging their heads

Rizwan is one of the leaders in the team, an excellent keeper, one of the best bats and a close confidant of the captain

He aint going anywhere
 
Rana said:
I can’t do Badzani. I have nothing on record to suggest what you say is true besides KK winning the trophy with Rizwan on the bench and Babar not as captain.

It is painful to see these things I guess if your favourite player is a bigger priority than the team. That’s why the team winning covers these things up.

Do you think people like me who hate Rizwan and Babar opening have any leg to stand on if Pakistan won the World Cup and Asia cup?
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Chalo yaar koi nahi aap khush raho. I am sure we all are here to support Pakistan
 
Zaz said:
Sarfraz is done and dusted

His haters can carry on banging their heads

Rizwan is one of the leaders in the team, an excellent keeper, one of the best bats and a close confidant of the captain

He aint going anywhere
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Don't worry after the '23 '24 losses it'll be inevitable. Just listen to him talk such a low class individual should be nowhere near the team or any important job. I'd put him almost at par with Amir and Butt in terms of the damage he's doing to us. Cost us a lot of silverware already.
 
Sarfaraz Ahmed makes 102 against Northern, scoring his 13th first-class 100

FhvyuThXoAMGoo6
 
MenInG said:
Sarfaraz Ahmed makes 102 against Northern, scoring his 13th first-class 100

FhvyuThXoAMGoo6
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Sarfaraz struck 11 fours and one six in his 131-ball 102 at National Bank Cricket Arena.

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If they ain't looking to give a chance to Sarfraz then he should not be in the squad and replaced in the test squad by Haseebullah.
 
News reports saying he will not be part of the squad for Test series vs England.

Fair call?
 
Sarfraz makes it into the test squad for the home series against England. Would've been a good time to try one of the younger keepers like Mohammad Haris or Rohail Nazir
 
PakEngFan said:
Hopefully this chapter is over for good a nothing cricketer.
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Zaz said:
Sarfraz is done and dusted

His haters can carry on banging their heads

Rizwan is one of the leaders in the team, an excellent keeper, one of the best bats and a close confidant of the captain

He aint going anywhere
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Unlucky

He’s not going away :))
 
Rana said:
Unlucky

He’s not going away :))
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Doesn’t matter he will be bringing out drinks and won’t play unless due to an injury. Never seen a former captain becoming a specialist water boy from a specialist captain.
 
PakEngFan said:
Doesn’t matter he will be bringing out drinks and won’t play unless due to an injury. Never seen a former captain becoming a specialist water boy from a specialist captain.
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He completely merits his place in the squad based on recent form. He’s also a fighter and a leader in the dressing room. Further, unlike other players out if the team, he’s behaved in a classy way by just performing on the domestics, rather than sniping on the side.
Good for Sarfi
 
PakEngFan said:
Doesn’t matter he will be bringing out drinks and won’t play unless due to an injury. Never seen a former captain becoming a specialist water boy from a specialist captain.
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:)) alright Muhammad Amir sab
 
Some rumours doing the rounds that Sarfaraz Ahmed could play in the first Test vs New Zealand. If so, what a turnaround that would be!
 
MenInG said:
Some rumours doing the rounds that Sarfaraz Ahmed could play in the first Test vs New Zealand. If so, what a turnaround that would be!
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If he plays he would replace Rizwan, or would he replace another batsman, regardless I think he deserves a chance for the test squad atleast.
 
MenInG said:
Some rumours doing the rounds that Sarfaraz Ahmed could play in the first Test vs New Zealand. If so, what a turnaround that would be!
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nextover666666 said:
If he plays he would replace Rizwan, or would he replace another batsman, regardless I think he deserves a chance for the test squad atleast.
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Has he been playing FC cricket? what are his numbers.

It would be a step back for Pakistan though
 
MenInG said:
Some rumours doing the rounds that Sarfaraz Ahmed could play in the first Test vs New Zealand. If so, what a turnaround that would be!
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So much for "visionary" selector Afridi.

Hasn't even been that good in QeA and he is well past his prime. Rizwan despite his recent struggles still has a higher Test average than Sarfraz. Sarfraz is also 35 years old.
 
shaz619 said:
Has he been playing FC cricket? what are his numbers.

It would be a step back for Pakistan though
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Yeah man. I’m surprised at the very few positive reactions to his comeback so far. If he comes back, all it does is show that either the selectors are incompetent bringing back a player in his mid 30s who is not a test level player vs genuine pace bowling or that we have reached the bottom of the barrel when it comes to cricket talent in Pakistan and now have to look toward recycling.
 
Nasty Naz said:
So much for "visionary" selector Afridi.

Hasn't even been that good in QeA and he is well past his prime. Rizwan despite his recent struggles still has a higher Test average than Sarfraz.
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I say let Rizwan rest. Let's gets this out of our system and be done with it.
 
MenInG said:
I say let Rizwan rest. Let's gets this out of our system and be done with it.
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Too late for ‘resting’ him my friend

There were plenty of pointless T20is he was playing and not ‘resting’ in since September
 
MenInG said:
I say let Rizwan rest. Let's gets this out of our system and be done with it.
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Teams don't rest their main players for Test matches and neither should Pakistan.

If you need to rest him, then do so for the upcoming ODI matches.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Teams don't rest their main players for Test matches and neither should Pakistan.

If you need to rest him, then do so for the upcoming ODI matches.
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Opportunities for Rizwan to rest but didn’t do so…

7 match T20i series (Butler didn’t play a single match and he was fit)

Easily could have rested against Bangladesh matches in the Tri series

Didn’t need to play the Hong Kong match in Asia cup

Didn’t need to play the dead rubber against Sri Lanka in Asia cup before final

Out of a total 15 matches, Rizwan could have easily rested in 6-7. Instead he plays 14 out of 15
 
Sarfraz's selection would be a ridiculous political selection and not on merit at all . Rizwan should be replaced by a younger keeper , keeping an eye on future, someone like Haseeb.

Every selection is based on politics. Ramiz's selection , his sacking , Sethi's and Afridi's selection and now Sarfraz's selection all dirty politics, no one cares about the cricket in Pakistan . Anyone left from Karachi ? Oh, Azam Khan must be the next one.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Teams don't rest their main players for Test matches and neither should Pakistan.

If you need to rest him, then do so for the upcoming ODI matches.
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In other countries non-performing players are dropped, in Pakistan they use the term " rested " for political reasons.
 
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moghul said:
In other countries non-performing players are dropped, in Pakistan they use the term " rested " for political reasons.
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Nope, other teams back their talent and give them enough rope.

Heck, Zak Crawley is still playing for England despite sub 30 average and the only team he has even performed well against is Pakistan. Despite that, he continues to play and has already played 31 tests.

Even Ollie Pope for example from when Pakistan played in England 2020 to June 2 of 2022, he was a disaster putting up 19.40 average in 14 Tests and having a horror show in Australia. Had 0 centuries during that near 2 year span. Since then, he has played 9 Tests with a 45+ average & 2 centuries.

It's only in Pakistan where players get dropped after a bad series or two instead of being backed.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Nope, other teams back their talent and give them enough rope.

Heck, Zak Crawley is still playing for England despite sub 30 average and the only team he has even performed well against is Pakistan. Despite that, he continues to play and has already played 31 tests.

Even Ollie Pope for example from when Pakistan played in England 2020 to June 2 of 2022, he was a disaster putting up 19.40 average in 14 Tests and having a horror show in Australia. Had 0 centuries during that near 2 year span. Since then, he has played 9 Tests with a 45+ average & 2 centuries.

It's only in Pakistan where players get dropped after a bad series or two instead of being backed.
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England can afford to carry Crawley and Pope. Pakistan cannot afford to carry non performers if the team keeps losing habitually.
 
Savak said:
England can afford to carry Crawley and Pope. Pakistan cannot afford to carry non performers if the team keeps losing habitually.
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England had been losing horribly for a while before this recent run which caused a drastic change in their tactics & captaincy but their personnel have remained relatively the same.
 
I don’t see harm in having Sarfraz replace non-existent all rounders. He’s a straight swap for Azhar Ali.
 
Suleiman said:
Yeah man. I’m surprised at the very few positive reactions to his comeback so far. If he comes back, all it does is show that either the selectors are incompetent bringing back a player in his mid 30s who is not a test level player vs genuine pace bowling or that we have reached the bottom of the barrel when it comes to cricket talent in Pakistan and now have to look toward recycling.
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You have to step back and be able to contemplate the other party’s argument.
35 is nominal age for test batsmen. Test cricket is a format where experience comes at a premium, specially in an inexperienced team like Pakistan. If he can give 3-4 years, that’s all you need to groom another replacement. Let Rizwan focus on short formats.
Saifi average is 36 vs Rizwan’s 39 but Saify’s SR is 70 vs Rizwan’s 51. Remember also that Saifi hasn’t played in Pakistan where all our batters are averaging higher than what they did in UAE.
The SR at no 6 can be a game changer as the complexion can change quickly and it shows Saifi knows how to bat with the tail. I have seen Saifi help Pak win at least 6-7 tests but I cannot remember more than 2 tests Rizzy has helped us win.
Saifi is also a better player of spin, which fits better into current Pakistan strategy to prepare spinning wickets.
Rizwan has been in atrocious form and you cannot bring another rookie in this rookie batting line up.
 
lol @ Sarfraz potentially giving 3-4 years. How many wicketkeepers throughout history have done well beyond 35+ age or even played.

Sarfraz since the start of 2017 has a 28.53 average in 17 Test matches. Since the start of 2018, its even worse with an average under 25. His last century came in 2014.

Maybe people are having amnesia but Sarfraz was a completely abysmal and unplayable batsmen by the end of his tenure across every format.
 
With questions over his selection and the pressure of the match situation, I thought that Sarfaraz played really well yesterday.

Assigning him the role of wicketkeeper-batsman strikes me as a bit of a stop gap solution which gives Rizwan a chance to rest his body & mind and reflect on his recent Test form for a limited period, but if that’s all it is, that is fine.

Sarfaraz is a very able substitute.
 
Most runs as Pakistan wicket-keeper in Tests:

2992 Sarfaraz Ahmed in 90 innings (average 38.85)
2648 Kamran Akmal in 92 innings (average 30.79)
2581 Moin Khan in 98 innings (average 28.67)
 
Rana said:
But he held the team together brilliantly

He was a great leader. Records speak for themselves

Rizwan was the beneficiary of some dirty politics by Misbah ul Haq

The world can overlook this injustice, I will not. Never ever!
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Never forget the injustice this man suffered.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sarfaraz Ahmed's response when reminded that Ramiz Raja had said his international career was almost over.<br><br>This guy has never complained, never moaned, never had digs at the selectors, never blamed anyone.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/4P6e0kPuAZ">pic.twitter.com/4P6e0kPuAZ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1612046418100846594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Quetta should persist with Sarfaraz as skipper to ensure total destruction. He should also be made captain of Pakistan.

Plus point is that Sarfaraz recites a beautiful naat in every ceremony
 
He is still part of the Pakistan team in Test matches. Good to see him doing well in first-class cricket.

 
PCB appoints Sarfaraz Ahmed as mentor for PCB's Champions Cup team

Sarfaraz Ahmed will guide the team in the One-Day tournament, starting on September 12, and will be involved in strategic planning, team-building, leadership, and personal development.

Now, with this new role, the question arises, has Sarfaraz Ahmed's international career come to an end?
 
Isn't it hilarious that the moment you end sarfraz the moment you're entire cricket collapses?

Isn't it hilarious how you guys kept whining at pakistan for losing games like wi? Never appreciating beating atg England in the home den? Or beating full strength Australia in a tri series final? Or winning CT 2017?

Back then you guys had too high an expectation from someone who was punching > His weight.

Now you guys are in such a rut that Even consistently beating weaker sides feels like a pipe dream.

You derserve this humiliation.
 
PakEngFan said:
Hopefully this chapter is over for good a nothing cricketer.
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Are you happy now?

Are you happy that we went from the number 1 T20 team in the world to being humiliated by the US

Are you happy that we went from an ODI team that defeated two world cup finalists to losing against Afghanistan, New Zealand D and Sri Lanka

Are you happy to we went from drawing a test series vs an England team that beat India 4-1 to failing to win a single home test in over 3 years

Of course your happy because the big daddies of KP continue to dominate the team
 
Can't believe best wk batsman in country is benched for so long. He can easily replace Shan Masood as a batter and obviously he's miles better as a captain
 
Ahmed216 said:
Can't believe best wk batsman in country is benched for so long. He can easily replace Shan Masood as a batter and obviously he's miles better as a captain
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Sarfraz is finished. He's 37 turning 38. He is done for.

He should have led Pakistan till 2023 and then retired.

Those 4 years wasted because of your 2 clowns. And it's ceo and founder misbah.
 
Mohammed Rizwan still has too much rizz at present, hence Ahmed Shahzad or Sarfaraz Ahmed don’t need to return.
 
mominsaigol said:
Sarfraz is finished. He's 37 turning 38. He is done for.

He should have led Pakistan till 2023 and then retired.

Those 4 years wasted because of your 2 clowns. And it's ceo and founder misbah.
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Sarfraz even at 45 will be a better batsman than current Shan Masood. I think we need to make use of his immense talent and brilliant captaincy skills
 
mominsaigol said:
Sarfraz is finished. He's 37 turning 38. He is done for.

He should have led Pakistan till 2023 and then retired.

Those 4 years wasted because of your 2 clowns. And it's ceo and founder misbah.
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He isn't. He is an excellent backup. Riz will fall away badly if Sarfi goes because the next guy in line isn't a threat. Kami was destroyed by a lack of viable competition
 
Bewal Express said:
He isn't. He is an excellent backup. Riz will fall away badly if Sarfi goes because the next guy in line isn't a threat. Kami was destroyed by a lack of viable competition
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Probably the first comment you've made that actually makes sense.

But regardless, He is overall done considering his age and that pcb is now looking for mentorship role for him.

I love and respect sarfi, but a mentor role suits him more.

As for rizwan, that's a he problem and not a sarfi problem. Sarfraz isn't his nanny that he needs to take care of rizwan.

Rizwan chose to Shove Sarfi aside, he looses form, it isn't on sarfraz.
 
mominsaigol said:
Probably the first comment you've made that actually makes sense.

But regardless, He is overall done considering his age and that pcb is now looking for mentorship role for him.

I love and respect sarfi, but a mentor role suits him more.

As for rizwan, that's a he problem and not a sarfi problem. Sarfraz isn't his nanny that he needs to take care of rizwan.

Rizwan chose to Shove Sarfi aside, he looses form, it isn't on sarfraz.
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That says more about your understanding than it does about my comments.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Sarfraz even at 45 will be a better batsman than current Shan Masood. I think we need to make use of his immense talent and brilliant captaincy skills
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I don't know if you're being serious or not,

But regardless I live sarfraz, he's a true ambassador for the sport which is why I'm looking out for him.

I'd rather not have him at a relatively old age play so you guys can bash him and I hear comments about him. Yeah no thanks.

If you wanted to make use of his immense talent and captaincy, maybe you shpuld have thought 2x before deciding babar is his captaincy replacement and rizzu is his keeping replacement.

He has no need to play for this crapola lot.
 
Bewal Express said:
That says more about your understanding than it does about my comments.
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Keep high fiving yourself to feel high and mighty. As I said, saim, Babar and the people you back, it fell apart like a house of cards.

I told you back then and I'm telling the you the same thing now, this saim 44 avg and babar goat nonsense would bite you.
 
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