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Rana said:
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Maybe because he isn’t playing in his proper position?
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Yeah Its a shame he isn't opening in T20, as many say best opener since Saeed Anwar, and when he gets going noyone else in Pakistan can match his ability, yet he is batting at 3 in T20, unfortunate to see.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Yeah Its a shame he isn't opening in T20, as many say best opener since Saeed Anwar, and when he gets going noyone else in Pakistan can match his ability, yet he is batting at 3 in T20, unfortunate to see.
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He doesn't have a good record opening in T20Is. Fakhar himself said so.
 
Hextro said:
He doesn't have a good record opening in T20Is. Fakhar himself said so.
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He has an even worse record at number 3

So what now? Should we just drop our best white ball striker of the modern era?
 
Rana said:
He has an even worse record at number 3

So what now? Should we just drop our best white ball striker of the modern era?
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It looks like they're giving him another shot at 3. Let's see if he can cement his position this time.
 
Man the 2 hundreds were fantastic. Played with aggression yet maturity. He's very important for ODI World Cup.
 
Rana said:
He has an even worse record at number 3

So what now? Should we just drop our best white ball striker of the modern era?
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How can he be the best WHITE BALL striker if he as a poor record in one white ball format at opening and number 3.

Maybe he's just our best ODI opener. Talking about internationals so don't bring league stats.
 
zarak said:
How can he be the best WHITE BALL striker if he as a poor record in one white ball format at opening and number 3.

Maybe he's just our best ODI opener. Talking about internationals so don't bring league stats.
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Fakhar stopped opening around 2020 for Pakistan at a time where no doubt he was struggling in the format , out of form and low on confidence . Prior to his barren run there was a time where averaged 30 and had a SR of 140. His 90 odd in the tri series final against Australia was superb.

Since that period he has not opened in that format again for Pakistan , however in that period he has had fantastic seasons in the PSL. Top scorer one year and hitting the most sixers this season and having a SR of 150 plus.

There is no doubt that Fakhar will do better as an opener in t20s for Pak than he would at number 3.

He is an impact player and whilst he will not have the consistency of Babar and Rizwan if he can be backed once again as an opener I have no doubt he can deliver 30@ 135-140SR once again for Pakistan.
With a Babar to come at 3.
 
zarak said:
How can he be the best WHITE BALL striker if he as a poor record in one white ball format at opening and number 3.

Maybe he's just our best ODI opener. Talking about internationals so don't bring league stats.
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How else is he supposed to prove he is a good T20 opener if we don’t count his domestic or PSL performances as an opener?
 
Rana said:
How else is he supposed to prove he is a good T20 opener if we don’t count his domestic or PSL performances as an opener?
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Umm perhaps from the 55 odd T20is he played as an opener.
 
Ramiz Raja on Fakhar Zaman:

"Fakhar needs to work on short-pitch bowling because he will have to encounter short-pitch bowling on spicy pitches. It seems like he tried for the pull shot but couldn't execute it perfectly. I have observed many times in his career that the ball hits his helmet. That's the area where he needs to work positively - either he skips that particular delivery or practice pull shot as much as possible. Having said that, Fakhar would never be hounded in the sub-continent at least and can be trusted blindly on Asian pitches"
 
Rana said:
So, he’s finished as a T20 opener?
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He was given a very long fair run against strong and weak opposition and he bottled it. Now he waits til an opening emerges.

If he replicates PSL numbers in internationals then someone has to drop down for him. If he does the same, then yes he is done.

Do you not think an average of 22 @ 130 is poor for a T20i opener who has been given 55 chances to prove himself.
 
zarak said:
He was given a very long fair run against strong and weak opposition and he bottled it. Now he waits til an opening emerges.

If he replicates PSL numbers in internationals then someone has to drop down for him. If he does the same, then yes he is done.

Do you not think an average of 22 @ 130 is poor for a T20i opener who has been given 55 chances to prove himself.
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No I think it’s totally fine, when he comes off, he will score a 45 ball hundred
 
Fakhar's 3 consecutive 100s highlights

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zarak said:
He was given a very long fair run against strong and weak opposition and he bottled it. Now he waits til an opening emerges.

If he replicates PSL numbers in internationals then someone has to drop down for him. If he does the same, then yes he is done.

Do you not think an average of 22 @ 130 is poor for a T20i opener who has been given 55 chances to prove himself.
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I’m not sure where you get your stats from but he has played 69 innings for Pak in t20s. 36 as an opener .

Amongst those 36 as an opener granted his 10-12 innings were poor but that was in 2020.

At his best he smashed 90 odd in 40 balls when Pakistan were chasing 190 in a Tri series final against Australia.
 
GreenKhan said:
I’m not sure where you get your stats from but he has played 69 innings for Pak in t20s. 36 as an opener .

Amongst those 36 as an opener granted his 10-12 innings were poor but that was in 2020.

At his best he smashed 90 odd in 40 balls when Pakistan were chasing 190 in a Tri series final against Australia.
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These Rizwan fans will try and tell you Fakhar is on Imran Farhat’s level as a batsman
 
GreenKhan said:
I’m not sure where you get your stats from but he has played 69 innings for Pak in t20s. 36 as an opener .

Amongst those 36 as an opener granted his 10-12 innings were poor but that was in 2020.

At his best he smashed 90 odd in 40 balls when Pakistan were chasing 190 in a Tri series final against Australia.
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Quite right on the innings. Average is still 22 and strike rate is around 130 still.

I don't get your point though. He played 10-12 poor innings which is why his average is low? Obviously, that is not true, else his numbers would be better.

That innings in the final was great, but for a player of his level he has underperformed as an opener. There is no hiding from that.
 
Rana said:
These Rizwan fans will try and tell you Fakhar is on Imran Farhat’s level as a batsman
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Well, I'm no fan of anyone, I like to see the team win.

I hope when Fakhar gets a shot at opening, he smashes bucket loads of runs Jost Butler style and forces Babar down the order. He can do it but his track record as an opener in T20is has been poor. Thats all.
 
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zarak said:
Quite right on the innings. Average is still 22 and strike rate is around 130 still.

I don't get your point though. He played 10-12 poor innings which is why his average is low? Obviously, that is not true, else his numbers would be better.

That innings in the final was great, but for a player of his level he has underperformed as an opener. There is no hiding from that.
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His last 10-12 innings were poor as an opener . There is no doubt about that , but that was in 2020. Given his potential he is more than capable of delivering good numbers again .

The most dangerous and proven batsman Pakistan have in white ball cricket is Fakhar zaman . There is no doubt about that .
 
GreenKhan said:
His last 10-12 innings were poor as an opener . There is no doubt about that , but that was in 2020. Given his potential he is more than capable of delivering good numbers again .

The most dangerous and proven batsman Pakistan have in white ball cricket is Fakhar zaman . There is no doubt about that .
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I think barring 2018 every year has been poor. But yeah could be that he has worked on his game. He's going to have to wait till someone pulls a hamstring and then bat them out. But if he plays like his career stats show, then there is no point.
 
Seems Sana Mir has inserted herself into the Strike Rate debate....

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"We were talking off-air as well that his [Fakhar] runs are always for the team. If he scores a century, he does it at a strike-rate of 125, which is important when you are chasing a target close to 350, and not at a strike-rate of 100. That is the reason why he is crucial for this team, because where we already have players who play at run-a-ball, his role becomes crucial to chase 300 run plus targets"

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MenInG said:
Seems Sana Mir has inserted herself into the Strike Rate debate....

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"We were talking off-air as well that his [Fakhar] runs are always for the team. If he scores a century, he does it at a strike-rate of 125, which is important when you are chasing a target close to 350, and not at a strike-rate of 100. That is the reason why he is crucial for this team, because where we already have players who play at run-a-ball, his role becomes crucial to chase 300 run plus targets"

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She has clarified in a tweet

"I had led the Pakistan team for over eight years and teams are formed in such a way that you have to mix and match. It's not possible to have 11 Shahid Afridis, nor 11 Fakhar Zamans or 11 Babar Azams in a team. You have to strike a balance where one player provides stability and the other complements him. That's why I always emphasize the importance of a player scoring a century while playing above his strike-rate when chasing 350 runs"

"Obviously, a player who scores a run-a-ball century has his own specialty, but along with him, you need three such small innings from impact players so that you can chase 350 runs. If someone has scored 50 runs on 30 balls or 60-70 runs on 40 balls, then you need this kind of performance along with a run-a-ball century. But the kind of player Fakhar Zaman is, you also need one or two more performances from him even if the strike-rate is not high. So it is necessary to have both of these players, especially on tours when you are aiming for big targets. When an impact player scores a hundred, it is very important, but people tend to take things out of context and try to label other players,"

"Babar Azam has improved his strike rate, and the way Mohammad Rizwan finished both matches scoring 50 runs on 30 balls, your team is going in a great direction. These things should be taken with context. Obviously, while commentating, we also prepare for the fact that people will take things out of context and express their frustration in different ways"
 
Definitely not a number 2 batsmen in the world, not sure how he got there. Easily the worst from the top 10 in terms of consistency
 
Concerned said:
Definitely not a number 2 batsmen in the world, not sure how he got there. Easily the worst from the top 10 in terms of consistency
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I am not sure how you think he’s not consistent. He was the second quickest to 3000 runs and has passed 50 or more 25 times in 70 innings .

He fully deserves his position in the top 10 and on recent form in the top 3.
 
Fakhar needs good true batting wickets where the ball comes on to the bat perfectly to excel. He struggles badly on slow pitches as his record in the UAE shows.
 
Fakhar Zaman showing youngsters how it's done!

 
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Fakhar has failed time and time again. I used to be a big believer in him, but watching his waning form has been disappointing at the very least. We should drop him for Haris as opener and bring in Azam Khan for the middle order
 
Mohammad Haris will be licking his lips. He will be the natural replacement for Fakhar.

Fakhar just needs one big innings to rediscover his mojo though. This is nothing new for him. He is the ultimate confidence player and once he gets that he will be back.
 
Fakhar is averaging 65 this year with 3 hundreds in 9 one day games. We need to calm down with all this criticism. Cant believe people want him dropped for Haris. Hilarious to say the least.
 
GreenKhan said:
Fakhar is averaging 65 this year with 3 hundreds in 9 one day games. We need to calm down with all this criticism. Cant believe people want him dropped for Haris. Hilarious to say the least.
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He scored back to back hundreds including a monstrous 180 & gifted Pak their first bilateral victory over NZ in 12 years.That was the last odi cricket Pak played. I can't beleive people are claiming for his head after that! He is inconsistent, ofcourse he is, as impact players tend to be. Shewag, Gayle,Gilchrist, Sanath,Gibbs were they consistent? No,because it didn't matter as their match winning ability is what made them precious. The exact reason why Eng & Aus keep persisting with Roy & Warner despite their numerous failures. I would have understood if Pak had similar guys warning the bench. Those who want him out,can they show another guy who is capable of scoring 180,190 or 200 from this unit? Can Babar, Rizwan or Imam play the sort of knocks that this guy has played? I can't beleive after producing such magnificent knocks on multiple occasions people still doubt him.
 
GreenKhan said:
Fakhar is averaging 65 this year with 3 hundreds in 9 one day games. We need to calm down with all this criticism. Cant believe people want him dropped for Haris. Hilarious to say the least.
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It's ludicrous Haris isn't as half as good as Fakhar.
 
If Fakhar doesn’t start scoring soon he may end up being replaced by Masood, and I’ll never EVER forgive him for giving Shan a chance to get back into the xi.

Mickey Arthur will make sure it happens.
 
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Now has a chance to get to a big number today vs Afghanistan in 3rd ODI.
 
Just 59 runs in 3 ODIs against Afghanistan and some very poor dismissals too.
 
Really disappointing series.

Yes he plays some brilliant and destructive innings from time to time, but this series has shown his ongoing weaknesses. His inability to rotate the strike easily, his struggles against the moving ball and his ability to throw his wicket away.
 
Saj said:
Really disappointing series.

Yes he plays some brilliant and destructive innings from time to time, but this series has shown his ongoing weaknesses. His inability to rotate the strike easily, his struggles against the moving ball and his ability to throw his wicket away.
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Yes he was disappointing this series but just scored 180 four ODI’s ago..

If we are to win the WC - Fakhar will be key. Yes Babar, Imam etc. will support but only Fakhar can give us the X-Factor
 
People need to realise, no one performed this series due to the pitch.

The 1st odi pitch was horrible with imam scoring because imam is the type of guy to go on his merry way, in the 3rd odi, the pitch was bad to the point that rizwan and babar needed to anchor until the pitch got better to score from over 30 onwards. Fakhar still was able to hit his shots and gave us a good start.

In the 2nd odi he should have scored I agree. But this guy will be dangerous on his day, pakistan need to keep backing him, Abdullah shafique is good but replacing fakhar for Abdullah might backfire, we'd have imam, Abdullah, Babar, saud and rizwan as the Top order all the way to no 5.

We need someone who can play the big innings, not have top 5 accumulators.
 
I get bamboozled by the ongoing criticism of FZ on this forum in the one day format. He averages 47 with a SR of 93 so he obviously has been very consistent all throughout his career to maintain these figures. In fact his average has never dropped below 45.

His shot selection at times is questionable and he can look scratchy from time to time as well, but he is quite frankly capable of playing a blinder at any stage and has done so only as recently as the last series where he scored 180.

He deserves a long rope as he has earnt it . He is one of our best if not the best one day opener we have ever had.
 
Just let him bash Nepal in the Asia Cup. He can go slowly for his first 20-30 runs for all we should care.

He just needs to find his touch and if he does it'll pay dividends by the time the WC comes about.
 
He is the only bat, maybe Baber at times, who is actual capable of scoring runs when it matters. Pak ODI/T20 team is carried by the bowling.

Imam, Rizwan and to some extent Babar as well are king of soft runs.
 
GreenKhan said:
I get bamboozled by the ongoing criticism of FZ on this forum in the one day format. He averages 47 with a SR of 93 so he obviously has been very consistent all throughout his career to maintain these figures. In fact his average has never dropped below 45.

His shot selection at times is questionable and he can look scratchy from time to time as well, but he is quite frankly capable of playing a blinder at any stage and has done so only as recently as the last series where he scored 180.

He deserves a long rope as he has earnt it . He is one of our best if not the best one day opener we have ever had.
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This 100000%

He is the only player in pakistan who is capable of scoring 150+ at a 130+ strike rate in ODIs. That's the risk you take in openers like him. I'll take the occasional poor innings no question
 
everything is ok with FZ but he really needs to focus on his shot selection which sometimes is very pathetic.
 
Fakhar's last 7 ODI scores: 19, 14, 33, 2, 30, 27, 14.

Before that, he scored 3 centuries in a row. Never seen a player have such huge swings of form.
 
That’s why being athletic and a good fielder is important. Fakhar failed with the bat today, but still took an amazing catch. Guys like Sharjeel or Azam won’t ever do that, if they fail with the bat, they’re pretty much a liability and cost you runs for the whole match.
 
ads101 said:
That’s why being athletic and a good fielder is important. Fakhar failed with the bat today, but still took an amazing catch. Guys like Sharjeel or Azam won’t ever do that, if they fail with the bat, they’re pretty much a liability and cost you runs for the whole match.
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Good post.

This is why people who want Asif Ali or Sharjeel know nothing about cricket.

This is the massive difference between lallu hacks like these two and actual cricketers like Fakhar who are an asset for the full game.
 
For all those who want falhar dropped for Shan, Asif, Sharjeel(A spot fixer), then honestly your head isn't in the right place.

If he's out of form, focus on getting his form back, he ain't Ahmed shezad that you know inform will give you scores like 40 of 75, 100 of 131.

Inform fakhar means pakistan wins 95% of the time, no question.

Also should the question of dropping him occur, then saim and Abdullah and rizwan as a make shift Opener are sitting in the ranks, look at these 3, not batsmen like azam Khan. I don't know what's special about these guys, their horrible and club level Anwar Ali type players.
 
Firebat said:
His dismissal today for 14:

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Looks like a replay of '17 ct bumrah no ball dismissal.
Zilch improvement that's what I hate about these player's no work on their techniques expansion of shots nothing just enjoy the off day's with biryani and have a good repo with captain you are set .
Same for the likes of imam you can clearly see his tummy tucking out .
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
Looks like a replay of '17 ct bumrah no ball dismissal.
Zilch improvement that's what I hate about these player's no work on their techniques expansion of shots nothing just enjoy the off day's with biryani and have a good repo with captain you are set .
Same for the likes of imam you can clearly see his tummy tucking out .
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He has maintained 45 avg and 90 sr minimum all throughout his career. He is the only Pakistani batsman to do so- He has his weaknesses and on some occasions they come to the fore when he is out of form, but to say he has not worked on his game or even improved is downright pathetic.
 
Ramiz Raja speaking on YouTube:

Former Pakistan captain Ramiz Raja believes that Fakhar needs to be sidelined for a significant period of time to ensure he regains focus.

“The big problem is Fakhar Zaman. He is an unorthodox hitter, but when someone like that gets out of form, it takes some time to fi nd solutions on the drawing board. He's a bottom-handed player, plays on the leg-side, somehow he adjusts with that and scores,”

“He played three matches against Afghanistan and couldn't make a mark as well. His body language is suffering, and Pakistan need an in-form opener. If Imam also gets dismissed cheaply, it creates pressure. Pakistan need to assess Fakhar. I believe they should rest him, give him some time out. Sidelining him is better for him as well as the Pakistan side. He's a good player, Pakistan has given him chances. But against India, with the form that he has, that chance is not worth being taken."
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
Looks like a replay of '17 ct bumrah no ball dismissal.
Zilch improvement that's what I hate about these player's no work on their techniques expansion of shots nothing just enjoy the off day's with biryani and have a good repo with captain you are set .
Same for the likes of imam you can clearly see his tummy tucking out .
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Rohit keeps throwing away his wicket to left arp pacers in an identical way to the ball coming back in. Is he lazy too?
Fakhar is a gun ODI batter and he is currently the strongest opener in both India/Pak on recent form (1-2 years).A few failures are part of the game.
Gill is new/unknown quantity whereas Rohit is clearly unfit and over the hill.
 
MenInG said:
Ramiz Raja speaking on YouTube:

Former Pakistan captain Ramiz Raja believes that Fakhar needs to be sidelined for a significant period of time to ensure he regains focus.

“The big problem is Fakhar Zaman. He is an unorthodox hitter, but when someone like that gets out of form, it takes some time to fi nd solutions on the drawing board. He's a bottom-handed player, plays on the leg-side, somehow he adjusts with that and scores,”

“He played three matches against Afghanistan and couldn't make a mark as well. His body language is suffering, and Pakistan need an in-form opener. If Imam also gets dismissed cheaply, it creates pressure. Pakistan need to assess Fakhar. I believe they should rest him, give him some time out. Sidelining him is better for him as well as the Pakistan side. He's a good player, Pakistan has given him chances. But against India, with the form that he has, that chance is not worth being taken."
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It’s his opinion but I don’t think anyone would agree with that. Fakhar should be left untouched till end of the WC. He’s one of the top 3 openers in the world right now.
 
One impressive inning followed by consistent poor performances. Except for the 2017 Champions Trophy I can't recall a significant instance where this player has performed well in major events.
 
Scored 101, 117, 180* in a row then scored 159 in his next 8 innings. Always hot and cold.
 
To some extent it is good Pakistan do not have a Fakhar type batsmen at the top otherwise it would be back to the 30-3 score lines.
 
Big pressure on Fakhar now. This is the first time since he made his debut in 2017 that his place in the one day side is under scrutiny . Has has now not scored a 50 in 8 innings . Is getting starts but getting out . Two easier matches in Pakistan against Bangladesh could not get him going .

Despite his recent failures his record speaks for itself and was only earlier this year he scored 3 consecutive centuries.

Two options really . Either rest him for the remainder of the tournament and get him ready for the World Cup or play him so he can get a score under his belt.

Either way , it’s a tough one but the value an inform Fakhar brings can’t be underestimated.
 
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I know he's hit a lenient patch, but he's still a brutal batter in the top order. I would still persist with him until after the WC.
 
Mate I wouldn't be so quick to help get the covers on with your current form :ROFLMAO:
 
FZ showing signs of life - perfect stage for him to go loco and get some big runs.
 
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