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A bowler who gets zero respect from Pakistan fans. And probably deserves his just due a bit more. Outstanding bowling today on a pitch with not much assistance.
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Your apology should be as loud as your disrespect was.
Haris Rauf is just ripping thru Australians at the moment. What a performance! His second ODI fifer at The Adelaide Oval.
He;s not a test match level bowler. His ceiling is limited-overs cricket but that doesn't mean that he can't be a very good white-ball bowler.Can Aqib don convince him to play 2 tests in South Africa could be the X factor
He’s bowled a test quality spell here does he have the fitness for 15-18 overs a day of course it’s a question mark but if there is a pacer most likely to pick 6-40 and win the game in South Africa he’s the oneHe;s not a test match level bowler. His ceiling is limited-overs cricket but that doesn't mean that he can't be a very good white-ball bowler.
I just don't think he has the fitness to bowl long spells in test cricket.
I can see him being effective on a greentop, the types of pitches we got in South Africa last time, or the type of pitch that India got in Cape Town earlier this year...where the batting side is struggling to even crawl to 200. But is it worth risking injury? Especially with the CT right around the corner? Personally, I don't think it is.He’s bowled a test quality spell here does he have the fitness for 15-18 overs a day of course it’s a question mark but if there is a pacer most likely to pick 6-40 and win the game in South Africa he’s the one
Since you have "revaluated" all your opinions from the past 2 years recently, maybe you could change your mind re Haris too IF he performs well for the next of the series.The right-handed Wahab needs to banished for good. A match loser through and through.
Only a complete fool would advocate for his selection in any format. The worst part is that with Aqib calling the shots for the next year or so, he isn’t going anywhere.
Haris has been rubbish for two years. He has lost Pakistan more matches than he can possibly help Pakistan win in the coming years.Since you have "revaluated" all your opinions from the past 2 years recently, maybe you could change your mind re Haris too IF he performs well for the next of the series.
Is this really a performance to dance about in a glorified friendly when he deserted Pakistan for the Test series ?. He's a mercenaryBig egg on the faces of the cowards who always criticise him, it’s thanks to him he got Pak over the line today
Is this really a performance to dance about in a glorified friendly when he deserted Pakistan for the Test series ?. He's a mercenary
Considering what Windies achieved, his pace was very usefulThey wanted him in Tests based on what exactly?
And no, fierce dancing is only for Rizwan’s captaincy.
yeah that must why he has an ODI bowling average of 24.9 and a SR of 25.Rauf performs in one match after being terrible in the last 10 - Hahahah we told you so, big egg on your face!!
His economy in ODI Cricket is 5.94. Quite a big sample size of matches as well now.Bowled well may well bowl Pak to a series victory on Sunday in Bouncy Perth.
But a leopard never changes its spots hel go back to the usual 9/10 rpo bowler that he is.
He's already surpassed Wahab Riaz who we wasted 80+ ODIs with.It's crazy how obsessed certain fans are with his performance in that India match and how much they like to scapegoat him for that loss. It's almost as if some people watch cricket with their eyes closed because only that can explain them forgetting that Kohli played maybe the greatest T20I innings ever that night.
How many truly express pacers has Pakistan produced in recent years besides him that have taken as many wickets?
Our fast-bowling is nowhere. The talent pool is bone-dry. Yet we still have unrealistic expectations instead of appreciating what we have. Nobody here called Rauf the second coming of Shoaib. But the least you can do is give him his just due when he performs, instead of making the same snarky comments.
If he really performed once in a blue moon like so many people here claim, he wouldn't have a bowling average of 24.9 and a SR of 25 in ODI cricket. Btw, that is probably one of the best bowling strike-rates going around among fast-bowlers in ODI cricket. For context, its better than Starc, Bumrah, Rabada, Cummins. So the idea that he doesn't take wickets and isn't a strike bowler is absolute rubbish.
Not to mention, Gillespie is the one that helped Liam Plunkett become the enforcer and middle overs specialist.He's already an upgrade over Wahab Riaz in LOIs. I'd play him despite his many flaws. He showed good understanding today and was moving the ball decently too. As long as Gillespie is there, I'd trust our pacers to do well.
No he definitely should not be playing test cricket. His body will break down because he is not capable of bowling long spells. Because of his background in tape-ball cricket and the fact that he started playing professional cricket at a much older age (relatively speaking) his body was never able to develop the in the same way that a fast-bowler's body does when he starts playing red-ball cricket at a young age. Still doesn't mean he can't be a very good white-ball bowler though.He's already surpassed Wahab Riaz who we wasted 80+ ODIs with.
I still don't think he is ready for tests. But in LOIs, he definitely deserves a go. And coming back from that India match needed some mental toughness. If anything, I'd give Haris the credit for coming back strong. Gul never recovered from Kohli's 183 onslaught and was never the same bowler again.
Yes and I like that he's mentally quite tough something you don't expect from Islamabad guys.No he definitely should not be playing test cricket. His body will break down because he is not capable of bowling long spells. Because of his background in tape-ball cricket and the fact that he started playing professional cricket at a much older age (relatively speaking) his body was never able to develop the in the same way that a fast-bowler's body does when he starts playing red-ball cricket at a young age. Still doesn't mean he can't be a very good white-ball bowler though.
Absolutely not, he has been really poor over the last 2 years and has lost us so many crucial matches - let's be better than glorifying him over one good performance in a bilateral series...Your apology should be as loud as your disrespect was.
Haris Rauf is just ripping thru Australians at the moment. What a performance! His second ODI fifer at The Adelaide Oval.
He has been the best bowler in this series. He deserves the praise for that. That was the whole point of my post. We can bash him for not bowling well but when he does, we should acknowledge him as well. He was unplayable in this series so far.Absolutely not, he has been really poor over the last 2 years and has lost us so many crucial matches - let's be better than glorifying him over one good performance in a bilateral series...
He has a long way to go to make up for the damage he's caused...
This I agree with.He;s not a test match level bowler. His ceiling is limited-overs cricket but that doesn't mean that he can't be a very good white-ball bowler.
I just don't think he has the fitness to bowl long spells in test cricket.
This guy likes Australia. Removes Matt short now in the series-deciding game. Brilliant series he is having so far.
Got Maxwell for the 3rd time in the series... 3out of 3 from him
Haris got his 2nd wicket of the match
Calling it since day one.
Only a matter of time before Rauf drama ends but I was getting abused left right and center.
Where's Bumrah?Best Bowling Strike-Rate in ODIs since Haris Rauf's debut: (min. 60 wickets and full-member nations)
Haris Rauf: 25.0
Adam Zampa: 25.1
Shaheen Afridi: 26.8
Mohammad Siraj: 26.9
Mitchell Starc: 28.2
major issue with HR is inconsistency. Now you'll see Australia smashing him all around the park in T20Is and he will suddenly look like a below average bowler.Best Bowling Strike-Rate in ODIs since Haris Rauf's debut: (min. 60 wickets and full-member nations)
Haris Rauf: 25.0
Adam Zampa: 25.1
Shaheen Afridi: 26.8
Mohammad Siraj: 26.9
Mitchell Starc: 28.2
As well as Haris bowled -there’s no comparison especially with that series in 2002. That was the pinnacle of express bowling. You had to watch his spells, not just the wickets. Different level.Got Shoaib vibes for sure with some of the bowling.
The Aussie pitches seemed quite spicy and that helped him a lot
The problem with Haris is that it always seems imminent that the wheels will come off and he will get carted around.
Nevertheless a great achievement not just for the stats but also quite importantly it got the fans hyped up and that's what you want from fast bowlers.
Bumrah was forgiven by majority of the fans for that noball in the champions trophy. Ben stokes was forgiven by the fans after the last over bashing in the t20 final.Haris Rauf will never be forgiven for 18.4 and 18.5 at the MCG unless he redeems himself on a similar platform.
He is a right-handed Wahab Riaz who should not be in the team. I personally hate him as much as I hate Amir, Imad, Sharjeel, Asif Ali and Sarfaraz. An exclusive group of 6 cricketers that I would never want to see play for Pakistan again.
Look like those two six of king will haunted for you forever .Haris has been rubbish for two years. He has lost Pakistan more matches than he can possibly help Pakistan win in the coming years.
Even Wahab produced one of fluke performances, so no I shall not give him credit unless he makes up for the damage that he did to Pakistan cricket starting from 18.4 at the MCG in 2022.
Not making a direct comparison. That Shoaib spell was frightening and as you say on a different level. Because of the timing differences we recorded those games and watched in the morning and I remember watching those tapes over and over again for years.As well as Haris bowled -there’s no comparison especially with that series in 2002. That was the pinnacle of express bowling. You had to watch his spells, not just the wickets. Different level.
This is also probably not the fastest Haris has bowled either. He’s probably 10% away from top pace.
Best Bowling Strike-Rate in ODIs since Haris Rauf's debut: (min. 60 wickets and full-member nations)
Haris Rauf: 25.0
Adam Zampa: 25.1
Shaheen Afridi: 26.8
Mohammad Siraj: 26.9
Mitchell Starc: 28.2
Haris Rauf wont dissapoint him now in T20I series. lolThe seismic reaction of Haris Rauf performance on winning the MOS award
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