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So today he took 8 wickets and hit a 33 ball 50....

And this is what he has done before that

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Is he ready for a recall to the Pakistan side? (Test and/or LOI)
 
Most definitely over Faheem Ashraf and Musa Khan. Not sure what these two have done besides being ‘young’
 
If his fitness is good than definitely. As statistically he was the best pacer in QAE with 28 wickets currently in 6* matches at an average of 17. Only Waqas Maqsood has 5 more wickets in in two more matches.
 
Yes. He'll make a comeback in all 3 formats. Hopefully he maintains similar form in the Pakistan Cup next month. He can also be a vital cog in our 2021 and 2022 T20 World Cup campaigns.
 
Absolutely, he is bowling beautifully at the moment and has looked a cut above everyone.
 
Most definitely over Faheem Ashraf and Musa Khan. Not sure what these two have done besides being ‘young’

Faheem ain't even that young. He'll be 27 in a month. Been a non performer for 3 years now. Pathetic that he's still in contention.
 
Looks like he's getting back to his best after a tough period.

I hope he has learnt some lessons in terms of keeping his feet on the ground, injury management etc and comes back as the bowler he was during CT17.
 
Yes most definitely he can play as 3rd seemer and bat at 9 provide decent runs. But we must use him carefully and not over use him.we must play a 5 man attack
 
Hopefully he can keep up this form and get picked for home series against South Africa in January
 
Definitely should replace Naseem

Against SA:

Shadab
Hasan
Yasir
Abbas
Shaheen

Should be our bowlers.
 
He will always have more pedigree than overrated Naseem, useless Musa and a street bowler like Rauf.

So if he is fit and keeps his head down without getting overconfident again, he is welcome to return to the side.
 
looks like he's regularly among the wickets. No fifers yet but 4 wickets x2 is a good return for a pacer in Asia, I'm assuming spinners are picking up wickets too around him.

Given that he has not just played international cricket, but excelled at it when he is "on" then I reckon that's enough to get him back in the team. Real quality is hard to find, if he still has it you need to find out- so I think he should be picked again.

Should be looking at picking him for the SA Test series.
 
He will always have more pedigree than overrated Naseem, useless Musa and a street bowler like Rauf.

So if he is fit and keeps his head down without getting overconfident again, he is welcome to return to the side.

This is the danger. You get him back into the team at the first sign of good performance and it may signal to him that it is easy to make his way back into the team no matter how disastrously he performs.

I'd rather keep him away for a while and let him sort his head out.

As for others, they should also be chucked out if they don't perform for the long term until they work things out - or not.
 
Needs a few more games under his belt to prove his fitness, but he should be able to get those in before the SA series anyway. Good to see him back and doing well. Provides much needed depth to the attack.
 
looks like he's regularly among the wickets. No fifers yet but 4 wickets x2 is a good return for a pacer in Asia, I'm assuming spinners are picking up wickets too around him.

Given that he has not just played international cricket, but excelled at it when he is "on" then I reckon that's enough to get him back in the team. Real quality is hard to find, if he still has it you need to find out- so I think he should be picked again.

Should be looking at picking him for the SA Test series.

He has a 5-fer. Current game he has 5 in the first innings and 3 in the second. Still 4 wickets up for grabs to complete a 10-for.
 
He has a 5-fer. Current game he has 5 in the first innings and 3 in the second. Still 4 wickets up for grabs to complete a 10-for.

That's great.

Look if all the pacers do an amazing job in NZ then Hasan can be in the squad for SA just as a backup. If someone in the team is underperforming then it looks like Hasan is making the best case he possibly can.

I know he has worked through some injury issues as well, usually a fast bowler learns a bit about themselves and their bowling when they come through the other side of that.
 
I don't think we should put pressure on him to return to international cricket yet. Back injuries aren't easy to manage. Let him play domestic cricket and get some confidence and get use to bowling long spells .

I wouldn't mind him playing ODIs and T20s but he needs more time before coming into the test team.
 
From PCB Report:

Central Punjab recorded their third consecutive victory as the defending champions chased down a meagre 47 at the loss of one wicket inside 13.5 overs at the State Bank Stadium. Ali Zaryab, who became the first batsman from his side to record a century this season in the first innings, was unbeaten on 22 as he took Central Punjab over the line in the afternoon session.

Their captain Hasan Ali completed his second five-wicket haul of the match earlier in the day as Balochistan were bowled out for 285 in their second innings after they were forced to follow-on yesterday.

The right-arm pacer took five wickets for 76 runs – two coming on the third day. His match figures were 10 for 108.
 
I don't think we should put pressure on him to return to international cricket yet. Back injuries aren't easy to manage. Let him play domestic cricket and get some confidence and get use to bowling long spells .

I wouldn't mind him playing ODIs and T20s but he needs more time before coming into the test team.

This.

He needs to get used to bowling long spells consistently and work on his pace as well as I have seen him and he hasn't been bowling at full pace that he has in international cricket.

For T20 and ODI he could be given a nod ahead of Faheem and Musa for sure, he should try and work on his batting as some runs down the order are always handy.
 
Well he is the best bowler in Pakistan so, yes. They only dropped him because of injuries.
 
I think that Hasan Ali is one of the best players that we have produced in recent times. I truly feel glad that he is in some rhythm now, and he looks like he is set to make a comeback.

Across all the formats, I think that he can make a space for himself, T20I being probably the least likely.

I'll start with test matches. Firstly, he bowls good overs with the ball and if he bowls wicket-to-wicket, he is a real force to be reckoned with. He can get some swing, and bowls at a good pace. His batting has also improved over the last few years, and I think that he can be vital for our lower-order going outside Asia without compromising any bowling. In my eyes, this New Zealand series is the last one for either Naseem or Abbas.

Naseem, though he has pace, has no skill with the new ball nor the old ball. He is effectively useless when he bowls anything other than short pitched and at the body, which the management is not letting him do. His debut spell against Australia was quite something, but management needs to realize that he is not some line-length bowler. He is a speedster who should be brought in to rock back the opposition. He can't swing the ball at all and barely gets any seam movement. Hasan Ali is much better in these regards, as he can both generate pace and also swing/seam the ball to a good extent.

Abbas on the other hand, has become very useless ever since people have stepped outside the crease towards him. Once the new ball is gone, he becomes entirely useless in terms of wicket-taking ability. I'd rather have someone going at 3.5 an over but taking 2-3 wickets an innings bowling at around 135kph than have someone going at 1.9 an over and practically trundling in the low 120 kph and taking 1 measly wicket in an innings. Hasan Ali can take Abbas's spot as well outside Asia.

In ODI, I think that we need a good seamer to be paired with Shaheen. Wahab Riaz is getting old, and soon, we'll need someone to take his place as the senior bowler on the team. Hasan Ali is probably one of our most seasoned bowlers out of the current lot, so I think that he should replace Wahab Riaz.

In T20I, we have a lot of other youngsters who are about to cement their spot in the coming New Zealand series, such as Hasnain, Haris, etc. They'll be ahead in the queue, but if he performs in the PSL, Hasan Ali can be included as well, though it is unlikely.
 
From PCB Report:

Central Punjab recorded their third consecutive victory as the defending champions chased down a meagre 47 at the loss of one wicket inside 13.5 overs at the State Bank Stadium. Ali Zaryab, who became the first batsman from his side to record a century this season in the first innings, was unbeaten on 22 as he took Central Punjab over the line in the afternoon session.

Their captain Hasan Ali completed his second five-wicket haul of the match earlier in the day as Balochistan were bowled out for 285 in their second innings after they were forced to follow-on yesterday.

The right-arm pacer took five wickets for 76 runs – two coming on the third day. His match figures were 10 for 108.

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Hasan Ali was a pretty good exponent of reverse swing with the old ball in test cricket.
 
Hasan Ali was a pretty good exponent of reverse swing with the old ball in test cricket.

That's actually what we need right now. Naseem and Shaheen have no idea how to reverse the ball and it's been costing us in Test cricket.

If hasan can truly return to form this would actually be very useful.
 
I think so, too late for the NZ series but he can definitely be involved against SA
 
He should definitely play the SA series. Especially if we make turning pitches. Hasan is one of our few bowlers who's actually done well in the UAE on slow low pitches. He's a good reverse swing bowler.
 
That's actually what we need right now. Naseem and Shaheen have no idea how to reverse the ball and it's been costing us in Test cricket.

If hasan can truly return to form this would actually be very useful.

It was wet conditions in Englands
 
That's actually what we need right now. Naseem and Shaheen have no idea how to reverse the ball and it's been costing us in Test cricket.

If hasan can truly return to form this would actually be very useful.

Which pitch suited reverse swing ?
 
This.

He needs to get used to bowling long spells consistently and work on his pace as well as I have seen him and he hasn't been bowling at full pace that he has in international cricket.

For T20 and ODI he could be given a nod ahead of Faheem and Musa for sure, he should try and work on his batting as some runs down the order are always handy.

So he still has atleast two more FC games (3 if CP reach final) this season which finish before the SA series. You wouldn’t bring him in to the Test side until he plays some more FC cricket next season in September then I’m guessing?
 
I think that Hasan Ali is one of the best players that we have produced in recent times. I truly feel glad that he is in some rhythm now, and he looks like he is set to make a comeback.

Across all the formats, I think that he can make a space for himself, T20I being probably the least likely.

I'll start with test matches. Firstly, he bowls good overs with the ball and if he bowls wicket-to-wicket, he is a real force to be reckoned with. He can get some swing, and bowls at a good pace. His batting has also improved over the last few years, and I think that he can be vital for our lower-order going outside Asia without compromising any bowling. In my eyes, this New Zealand series is the last one for either Naseem or Abbas.

Naseem, though he has pace, has no skill with the new ball nor the old ball. He is effectively useless when he bowls anything other than short pitched and at the body, which the management is not letting him do. His debut spell against Australia was quite something, but management needs to realize that he is not some line-length bowler. He is a speedster who should be brought in to rock back the opposition. He can't swing the ball at all and barely gets any seam movement. Hasan Ali is much better in these regards, as he can both generate pace and also swing/seam the ball to a good extent.

Abbas on the other hand, has become very useless ever since people have stepped outside the crease towards him. Once the new ball is gone, he becomes entirely useless in terms of wicket-taking ability. I'd rather have someone going at 3.5 an over but taking 2-3 wickets an innings bowling at around 135kph than have someone going at 1.9 an over and practically trundling in the low 120 kph and taking 1 measly wicket in an innings. Hasan Ali can take Abbas's spot as well outside Asia.

In ODI, I think that we need a good seamer to be paired with Shaheen. Wahab Riaz is getting old, and soon, we'll need someone to take his place as the senior bowler on the team. Hasan Ali is probably one of our most seasoned bowlers out of the current lot, so I think that he should replace Wahab Riaz.

In T20I, we have a lot of other youngsters who are about to cement their spot in the coming New Zealand series, such as Hasnain, Haris, etc. They'll be ahead in the queue, but if he performs in the PSL, Hasan Ali can be included as well, though it is unlikely.
Which Naseem have you been watching bro?
He can swing the ball both ways; watch some of his spells with the new ball in the last PSL, and can even seam the ball away; watch his dismissals of root.
He just doesn't know the art of taking wickets at the moment and bowls from too wide of the crease with a straight run up which doesnt complement his side on action.
 
Which Naseem have you been watching bro?
He can swing the ball both ways; watch some of his spells with the new ball in the last PSL, and can even seam the ball away; watch his dismissals of root.
He just doesn't know the art of taking wickets at the moment and bowls from too wide of the crease with a straight run up which doesnt complement his side on action.

He got no swing in England, the epicenter for swing bowling. If he can't swing a Dukes in overcast conditions, that is a disappointment. Azhar Ali swung that ball more than Naseem did.
 
He got no swing in England, the epicenter for swing bowling. If he can't swing a Dukes in overcast conditions, that is a disappointment. Azhar Ali swung that ball more than Naseem did.

Even I can swing the ball. Swinging a new ball at 110-120 kph is actually extremely easy. If you can swing it at 145+, that's when you become an elite bowler. It's very difficult and Naseem will need some time to develop that.

That said, I have seen him get quite a bit of outswing before. Sometimes, these raw bowlers can temporarily forget a skill while trying new deliveries, and that's fine. This is probably what happened to Naseem.
 
He got no swing in England, the epicenter for swing bowling. If he can't swing a Dukes in overcast conditions, that is a disappointment. Azhar Ali swung that ball more than Naseem did.

How did archer do in the test base series.naseem is just inconsistant at hitting a good length constantly but he can swing the ball
 
Even I can swing the ball. Swinging a new ball at 110-120 kph is actually extremely easy. If you can swing it at 145+, that's when you become an elite bowler. It's very difficult and Naseem will need some time to develop that.

That said, I have seen him get quite a bit of outswing before. Sometimes, these raw bowlers can temporarily forget a skill while trying new deliveries, and that's fine. This is probably what happened to Naseem.

If he can't swing it, one would expect that he bowls a consistent line and length, but he doesn't. He should not be played against top oppositions and should go back to domestic and bowl long overs to figure out where he is best effective.
 
How did archer do in the test base series.naseem is just inconsistant at hitting a good length constantly but he can swing the ball

Archer is levels above Naseem because of the fact that he offers so much more. Naseem is not to be mentioned in the same conversation as Jofra Archer in terms of what they have achieved.

Naseem has the potential, but he is too young to be playing against the world's best. Archer is a much better bowler at the moment, and frankly, Naseem is yet to show why he deserves selection outside Asia.
 
Archer is levels above Naseem because of the fact that he offers so much more. Naseem is not to be mentioned in the same conversation as Jofra Archer in terms of what they have achieved.

Naseem has the potential, but he is too young to be playing against the world's best. Archer is a much better bowler at the moment, and frankly, Naseem is yet to show why he deserves selection outside Asia.

Am not stating that he is or isnt above naseem level. Am saying what did archer do in the test series
 
He had proved his class, all he had to prove was his fitness . He has proved both now, form and fitness. Hope Misbah will not create a personal drudge with Hasan Ali now.

With so many mediocre bowlers in Pak team like Rauf, Musa, Sohail Khan , team need a fit Hasan Ali.
 
Am not stating that he is or isnt above naseem level. Am saying what did archer do in the test series

Played better than Naseem, though I wouldn't call it a good performance on Archer's part either.
 
38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.

Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?
 
38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.

Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?

Yes he's clearly done more than enough, will be picked for SA. Not like Sohail Khan and Musa are going to keep him out.
 
38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.


Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?
Yes because the ones not selected are the best players.

You can bring anyone in, we would had not won.
 
Added bonus of strengthen the lower order.

I subscribe to Junaids theory. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

If Rizwan is 6.

Asia
7. Shadab
8. Faheem/Zafar Gohar
9. Sajid Khan
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen

Non-Asia

7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. Hasan Ali
10. Sajid Khan/Young seamer
11. Shaheen
 
He's played 8 1st class matches back to back. There's been no reported injury concerns. This is a good sign that he is match fit.
 
38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.

Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?

defonitely should be in the squad and should come in place off naseem who will play back to back tests against new zealand
 
Added bonus of strengthen the lower order.

I subscribe to Junaids theory. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

If Rizwan is 6.

Asia
7. Shadab
8. Faheem/Zafar Gohar
9. Sajid Khan
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen

Non-Asia

7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. Hasan Ali
10. Sajid Khan/Young seamer
11. Shaheen

i agre with the non Asia 7 downwards.but at number 10 defonitely a fast bowler but a spinner unless its turning.

but in asia as shadab is injuired and proberly not fit for south africa series il include agha salman
 
Hasan Ali will be a crucial member of the team for the next WTC cycle. We play 5 series' in Asia (at home vs NZ, Australia and England, away in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka) where Hasan Ali specializes, and where the pitches suit his bowling. Even the one non Asian series is in the West Indies, which is also not very far from Asian conditions. He will play a crucial part in all 6 series'.
 
He is an absolute must for the test matches against South Africa, and the ones we play from then on.

He has a lot of utility when it comes to bowling, and he has a knack of taking wickets.

He isn't very tall but can bowl good short balls, has a good yorker, can swing/seam the ball, skiddy off the pitch, and he is experienced in FC Cricket, something Naseem isn't at the moment.

To be honest, if we have backed Naseem till this point, then it might do us well if we play Hasan in place of Abbas, to go at the opposition with a lot of aggression. It could work, but it might not as well. It is a gamble we should take in the second test against South Africa.
 
Probably too early considering his fragility, but the problem is that Pakistan needs him so I feel he will be selected.
 
Hassan to replace Naseem who gets a nice few years in domestic to sort his technique out.

Watching the video above, these batters look like they were imported from bangla. man oh man.
 
I would drop Sohail Khan and bring Hasan Ali in.

But the bigger issue with Hasan Ali is his fitness. Can he stay healthy during a Test series or will he breakdown? Plus, he's bowling in a tournament that doesn't have any of the top Test batsmen participating right now.

They also need to bring Saud Shakeel in but that's a different topic.
 
Well he's kind of our only option because no other bowler in domestics has stood out this season

There are likes of Haris Rauf and Hasnain who have played almost zero long format cricket.

The key thing with Hasan Ali and also shaheen to an extent would be managing their workload. We need to prioritize our options for different formats to manage workload

TESTS:

IT's clear that we lack penetration at test level and Hasan at full fitness can provide a very good option there. We do need to play 5 bowlers in every match going forward to reduce workload on pacers

Preferred options (SENA):
Hasan
Shaheen
Abbas
Faheem
Zafar/Yasir

Preferred options (ASIA/WI):
Hasan/Zafar (Depending upon pitch)
Abbas
Shaheen
Agha Salman/Nawaz/Faheem (Depending upon pitches)
Yasir


ODIS:
In ODIs we can manage decently with HAris rauf, Hasnain and even Dilbar or even musa to an extent and rotate them with Hasan and Shaheen


T20Is:
Shaheen, Hasan, Haris, Faheem, Hasnain should be rotated
 
I don't know i'd be curious to try a domestic performer in the SA series, in particular on the Karachi pitch. I wouldn't mind Tabish Khan as an option but saying that Hassan Ali has been really good. Lots of choices to replace Naseem who needs more time to grow.
 
I would drop Sohail Khan and bring Hasan Ali in.

But the bigger issue with Hasan Ali is his fitness. Can he stay healthy during a Test series or will he breakdown? Plus, he's bowling in a tournament that doesn't have any of the top Test batsmen participating right now.

They also need to bring Saud Shakeel in but that's a different topic.
He has played 8 first class games on the trot, bowling long spells on dead pitches. What more does he need to do to prove that he is fit enough?
 
Lol at this love for Hasan Ali, people were sick and tired of his recent form for Pakistan leading up the 2019 ODI WC and wanted him dropped. He had an attitude problem and had succumbed to his newly found fame. Let him prove himself once again first
 
I'm happy to recall him. However, given the incredible amount of cricket Pakistan have scheduled in 2021, I would only have him plays tests and maybe ODIs. Hassan when on song is a real asset and needs to be managed as such workload wise.

They need to keep persisting with Hasnain and Rauf for t20s and also somehow get Amir back in the fold for t20s
 
If he is fit, he should be called for SAF series - no excuses. Abbas won’t do much on PAK tracks, while Naseem won’t be bowling to BD & Lankan batting. PAK should play two spinners and may be three pacers including Faheem, with Hasan being second pacer.
 
Lol at this love for Hasan Ali, people were sick and tired of his recent form for Pakistan leading up the 2019 ODI WC and wanted him dropped. He had an attitude problem and had succumbed to his newly found fame. Let him prove himself once again first

Isn't he the highest wicket-taker in QAE trophy among pacers?? and he has played 8 FC games on the trot and has been among the wickets. Given lack of options, he should be recalled if he's fit enough
 
No one else has done enough to block him now,

Exactly if say someone like Sameen gul or Ehsan adile etc. had done better probably there would have been a point for discussion but currently he has no competetion
 
He needs to be well managed, don't want to burn him out in 3 formats. But its tricky with a mediocre bowling unit in tests.
 
Pakistan need to manage their fast bowling resources well , shaheen should not be playing every t20 and odi but he should be playing every test match.

In 2021 we are going to be playing 9 test matches , 20 odis and 29 t20s. Play him 18 t20s , 14 odis and all the test matches.

Hassan ali too should be managed as such.
 
He has played 8 first class games on the trot, bowling long spells on dead pitches. What more does he need to do to prove that he is fit enough?

I meant in general.

He's done enough to regain his spot (not tough to do these days) but his injury issues mean they can't just run him into the ground. The international calendar is tough and I don't think his body will hold up if they play in him in multiple formats.

The back issues and rib fractures do add up.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hassan Ali has today reached the milestone of 200 first-class wickets, at a very impressive average of 24.64 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QEA20?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QEA20</a> <a href="https://t.co/acbUc71PqI">pic.twitter.com/acbUc71PqI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1344989047362625536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Hassan Ali at this point does not need to be playing anything other than Tests right now. We have enough fast bowlers for the white ball circuit - Shaheen, Musa, Haris, Hasnain, Faheem, Dilbar etc.

We must manage his workload, so it is our Test bowling that is especially suffering at the moment, and he is performing far above anyone in the domestic 4 day game. He should clearly be in line for a recall, to see what he can do vs SA, in conditions that would suit him.

Based on that, we can proceed to see the bowling combinations that we can make for future matches. Personally, my preference for the next couple years or so would be to let Naseem go back to FC and accumulate some good seasons of 4 day bowling, and have Hassan replace him in the team for the moment.
 
Lol at this love for Hasan Ali, people were sick and tired of his recent form for Pakistan leading up the 2019 ODI WC and wanted him dropped. He had an attitude problem and had succumbed to his newly found fame. Let him prove himself once again first

Hasan doesn't have an attitude problem, he just gets carried away. He has already proved his fitness and this season and no other fast bowler except Waqas Maqsood comes close. People just want an easy target and Hasan with all his antics on and off the field became one. His case is much different to the likes of Shahzad and Akmal as Hasan actually worked on his fitness and instead of winning on TV actually proved his game on the field.
 
It's about setting priorities when it comes to workloads of fast-bowlers.

Tests should naturally get top priority, followed by ODIs and T20Is.

Managing workload is predicated heavily on your bench-strength and how smart management is with the managing part. Unfortunately, Pakistan has neither any credible bench-strength, nor particularly smart management.
 
The way Hassan Ali has handled himself as captain and transitioned himself into cricket post injury has been pretty impressive. In initial few matches he was bowing bit less overs than other pacers and now as he has found his confidence, his body has held up well and he is into his groove he has been bowling bit more than the other pacers in his team especially in those crucial moments.
 
It's about setting priorities when it comes to workloads of fast-bowlers.

Tests should naturally get top priority, followed by ODIs and T20Is.

Managing workload is predicated heavily on your bench-strength and how smart management is with the managing part. Unfortunately, Pakistan has neither any credible bench-strength, nor particularly smart management.

Agreed. Thing is irrespective of bench strength or available quality there is no excuse to run down your best bowlers to the ground by playing them every random T20.

Pak cricket needs a broader vision than running their best bowlers down to the ground or fast tracking youngsters and using lack of options as an excuse. Even if someone buys excuse of lack of options, it still doesnt give anyone the right to destroy career of players just because they want to prove their coaching and managerial credentials.
 
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