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Most definitely over Faheem Ashraf and Musa Khan. Not sure what these two have done besides being ‘young’
He will always have more pedigree than overrated Naseem, useless Musa and a street bowler like Rauf.
So if he is fit and keeps his head down without getting overconfident again, he is welcome to return to the side.
looks like he's regularly among the wickets. No fifers yet but 4 wickets x2 is a good return for a pacer in Asia, I'm assuming spinners are picking up wickets too around him.
Given that he has not just played international cricket, but excelled at it when he is "on" then I reckon that's enough to get him back in the team. Real quality is hard to find, if he still has it you need to find out- so I think he should be picked again.
Should be looking at picking him for the SA Test series.
He has a 5-fer. Current game he has 5 in the first innings and 3 in the second. Still 4 wickets up for grabs to complete a 10-for.
He has a 5-fer. Current game he has 5 in the first innings and 3 in the second. Still 4 wickets up for grabs to complete a 10-for.
I don't think we should put pressure on him to return to international cricket yet. Back injuries aren't easy to manage. Let him play domestic cricket and get some confidence and get use to bowling long spells .
I wouldn't mind him playing ODIs and T20s but he needs more time before coming into the test team.
From PCB Report:
Central Punjab recorded their third consecutive victory as the defending champions chased down a meagre 47 at the loss of one wicket inside 13.5 overs at the State Bank Stadium. Ali Zaryab, who became the first batsman from his side to record a century this season in the first innings, was unbeaten on 22 as he took Central Punjab over the line in the afternoon session.
Their captain Hasan Ali completed his second five-wicket haul of the match earlier in the day as Balochistan were bowled out for 285 in their second innings after they were forced to follow-on yesterday.
The right-arm pacer took five wickets for 76 runs – two coming on the third day. His match figures were 10 for 108.
Hasan Ali was a pretty good exponent of reverse swing with the old ball in test cricket.
That's actually what we need right now. Naseem and Shaheen have no idea how to reverse the ball and it's been costing us in Test cricket.
If hasan can truly return to form this would actually be very useful.
That's actually what we need right now. Naseem and Shaheen have no idea how to reverse the ball and it's been costing us in Test cricket.
If hasan can truly return to form this would actually be very useful.
It was wet conditions in Englands
This.
He needs to get used to bowling long spells consistently and work on his pace as well as I have seen him and he hasn't been bowling at full pace that he has in international cricket.
For T20 and ODI he could be given a nod ahead of Faheem and Musa for sure, he should try and work on his batting as some runs down the order are always handy.
Which Naseem have you been watching bro?I think that Hasan Ali is one of the best players that we have produced in recent times. I truly feel glad that he is in some rhythm now, and he looks like he is set to make a comeback.
Across all the formats, I think that he can make a space for himself, T20I being probably the least likely.
I'll start with test matches. Firstly, he bowls good overs with the ball and if he bowls wicket-to-wicket, he is a real force to be reckoned with. He can get some swing, and bowls at a good pace. His batting has also improved over the last few years, and I think that he can be vital for our lower-order going outside Asia without compromising any bowling. In my eyes, this New Zealand series is the last one for either Naseem or Abbas.
Naseem, though he has pace, has no skill with the new ball nor the old ball. He is effectively useless when he bowls anything other than short pitched and at the body, which the management is not letting him do. His debut spell against Australia was quite something, but management needs to realize that he is not some line-length bowler. He is a speedster who should be brought in to rock back the opposition. He can't swing the ball at all and barely gets any seam movement. Hasan Ali is much better in these regards, as he can both generate pace and also swing/seam the ball to a good extent.
Abbas on the other hand, has become very useless ever since people have stepped outside the crease towards him. Once the new ball is gone, he becomes entirely useless in terms of wicket-taking ability. I'd rather have someone going at 3.5 an over but taking 2-3 wickets an innings bowling at around 135kph than have someone going at 1.9 an over and practically trundling in the low 120 kph and taking 1 measly wicket in an innings. Hasan Ali can take Abbas's spot as well outside Asia.
In ODI, I think that we need a good seamer to be paired with Shaheen. Wahab Riaz is getting old, and soon, we'll need someone to take his place as the senior bowler on the team. Hasan Ali is probably one of our most seasoned bowlers out of the current lot, so I think that he should replace Wahab Riaz.
In T20I, we have a lot of other youngsters who are about to cement their spot in the coming New Zealand series, such as Hasnain, Haris, etc. They'll be ahead in the queue, but if he performs in the PSL, Hasan Ali can be included as well, though it is unlikely.
Which Naseem have you been watching bro?
He can swing the ball both ways; watch some of his spells with the new ball in the last PSL, and can even seam the ball away; watch his dismissals of root.
He just doesn't know the art of taking wickets at the moment and bowls from too wide of the crease with a straight run up which doesnt complement his side on action.
He got no swing in England, the epicenter for swing bowling. If he can't swing a Dukes in overcast conditions, that is a disappointment. Azhar Ali swung that ball more than Naseem did.
He got no swing in England, the epicenter for swing bowling. If he can't swing a Dukes in overcast conditions, that is a disappointment. Azhar Ali swung that ball more than Naseem did.
Even I can swing the ball. Swinging a new ball at 110-120 kph is actually extremely easy. If you can swing it at 145+, that's when you become an elite bowler. It's very difficult and Naseem will need some time to develop that.
That said, I have seen him get quite a bit of outswing before. Sometimes, these raw bowlers can temporarily forget a skill while trying new deliveries, and that's fine. This is probably what happened to Naseem.
How did archer do in the test base series.naseem is just inconsistant at hitting a good length constantly but he can swing the ball
Archer is levels above Naseem because of the fact that he offers so much more. Naseem is not to be mentioned in the same conversation as Jofra Archer in terms of what they have achieved.
Naseem has the potential, but he is too young to be playing against the world's best. Archer is a much better bowler at the moment, and frankly, Naseem is yet to show why he deserves selection outside Asia.
Am not stating that he is or isnt above naseem level. Am saying what did archer do in the test series
Played better than Naseem, though I wouldn't call it a good performance on Archer's part either.
38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.
Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?
Yes because the ones not selected are the best players.38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.
Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?
Yes because the ones not selected are the best players.
You can bring anyone in, we would had not won.
38 wickets at 19.31 in 8 matches so far in the QEA Trophy 2020.
Considering how toothless our Test bowling was in Australia, England and now in NZ, surely he should be in line for a recall?
Yes because the ones not selected are the best players.
You can bring anyone in, we would had not won.
Added bonus of strengthen the lower order.
I subscribe to Junaids theory. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
If Rizwan is 6.
Asia
7. Shadab
8. Faheem/Zafar Gohar
9. Sajid Khan
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen
Non-Asia
7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. Hasan Ali
10. Sajid Khan/Young seamer
11. Shaheen
He's played 8 1st class matches back to back. There's been no reported injury concerns. This is a good sign that he is match fit.
He has played 8 first class games on the trot, bowling long spells on dead pitches. What more does he need to do to prove that he is fit enough?I would drop Sohail Khan and bring Hasan Ali in.
But the bigger issue with Hasan Ali is his fitness. Can he stay healthy during a Test series or will he breakdown? Plus, he's bowling in a tournament that doesn't have any of the top Test batsmen participating right now.
They also need to bring Saud Shakeel in but that's a different topic.
Lol at this love for Hasan Ali, people were sick and tired of his recent form for Pakistan leading up the 2019 ODI WC and wanted him dropped. He had an attitude problem and had succumbed to his newly found fame. Let him prove himself once again first
No one else has done enough to block him now,
Most definitely over Faheem Ashraf and Musa Khan. Not sure what these two have done besides being ‘young’
He has played 8 first class games on the trot, bowling long spells on dead pitches. What more does he need to do to prove that he is fit enough?
Lol at this love for Hasan Ali, people were sick and tired of his recent form for Pakistan leading up the 2019 ODI WC and wanted him dropped. He had an attitude problem and had succumbed to his newly found fame. Let him prove himself once again first
It's about setting priorities when it comes to workloads of fast-bowlers.
Tests should naturally get top priority, followed by ODIs and T20Is.
Managing workload is predicated heavily on your bench-strength and how smart management is with the managing part. Unfortunately, Pakistan has neither any credible bench-strength, nor particularly smart management.