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[VIDEOS] "I just learnt what that 'kalu' meant when I played for Sunrisers in the IPL": Darren Sammy

Players will go to court, if Sammy takes their name. So will SRH.

Ishant's post only corroborates ishants actions not anyone else's.

From the silence of all concerned, it seems that players are keeping their thoughts to themselves - not much protestations of innocence.

Going to court will only make them look sillier when the world will learn about how in our part of the world, calling someone Kallu is OK(ish)
 
It's clear, West and modern education only thinks of colourism as race. That is bankruptcy of ideas, prospective and cultural. I cannot fell into such trap. The issue itself can be categorized into "what" and "who".

What was said, kalu/kala has religious, slangs, and person name association. Thus, greater introspective is needed.

Who said it, was his friend and teammates. Thus, no malice was intended. Is Sammy so insecure that he can't trust others? Similarly, among friends, it shows that such person is completely unreliable.
 
It's clear, West and modern education only thinks of colourism as race. That is bankruptcy of ideas, prospective and cultural. I cannot fell into such trap. The issue itself can be categorized into "what" and "who".

What was said, kalu/kala has religious, slangs, and person name association. Thus, greater introspective is needed.

Who said it, was his friend and teammates. Thus, no malice was intended. Is Sammy so insecure that he can't trust others? Similarly, among friends, it shows that such person is completely unreliable.

My advice to you is to not try that in the West. Continue saying that to your friends in India if you like.
 
My advice to you is to not try that in the West. Continue saying that to your friends in India if you like.

I know how to behave and react in the West. The same logic should apply for foreigners who come to India. That's what cultural training and sensitivity means. Sammy and many others need to work on it.

Kalu/Kala will not be banned here, just because some foreigner thinks that all black color words implies racism.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darren Sammy via Instagram "I've been having interesting conversations with one of my Sunrisers teammates. I think it's a great opportunity to educate people about certain things that are being said or done" <a href="https://t.co/2GizIm9N2l">pic.twitter.com/2GizIm9N2l</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1271178867974254592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2020</a></blockquote>
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West Indian cricketers have betrayed India and Indian people with this. We opened our hearts to them and this is how they repay us by humiliating our country. Should not be forgotten. This is a country that keeps grudges. Never forget that.
 
West Indian cricketers have betrayed India and Indian people with this. We opened our hearts to them and this is how they repay us by humiliating our country. Should not be forgotten. This is a country that keeps grudges. Never forget that.

Bro this is a bitter reality. I’m sorry for this.
 
West Indian cricketers have betrayed India and Indian people with this. We opened our hearts to them and this is how they repay us by humiliating our country. Should not be forgotten. This is a country that keeps grudges. Never forget that.

Betrayed India by being offended by racial slurs?
 
West Indian cricketers have betrayed India and Indian people with this. We opened our hearts to them and this is how they repay us by humiliating our country. Should not be forgotten. This is a country that keeps grudges. Never forget that.

Absolutely pathetic comment from you. Racism should never be tolerated, this isn't betrayal.
 
Absolutely pathetic comment from you. Racism should never be tolerated, this isn't betrayal.

Bro, I think its largely sarcasm, see line below. :))

West Indian cricketers have betrayed India and Indian people with this. We opened our hearts to them and this is how they repay us by humiliating our country. Should not be forgotten. This is a country that keeps grudges. Never forget that.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darren Sammy via Instagram "I've been having interesting conversations with one of my Sunrisers teammates. I think it's a great opportunity to educate people about certain things that are being said or done" <a href="https://t.co/2GizIm9N2l">pic.twitter.com/2GizIm9N2l</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1271178867974254592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2020</a></blockquote>
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His voice starts to shound shaky at around 30 sec. Seems to be really emotional about this.

Insta while driving?
 
Using your logic, then blacks can never be racists. And that is fundamentally false, and every community has its racists....

Don't use anglais or western meaning to our own native words. Thats being cultural insensitive and you ought to do some cultural training...

The word black isn’t racist. It’s used to describe cars, pens, and all sorts of objects. The usage of the word indicates the racism.

People of a dark skin color can indeed be racist. And we have a right to ask them not to discriminate against us if we are white or brown or “yellow” (a racist term used to refer to Far East Asians).

Similarly, a person of African descent has the right to tell us that us saying “oye kalay” gives importance to them being “kala” as a defining trait that you are giving them a nickname on basis of.

Simply by calling him “kalu”, you are giving importance to his skin color.

That importance is racist, whether or not “desi people say it all the time”.
 
Zalmi fans have been calling Sammy “Sammy torr ey kho zamung rorr ey” since 2017, ever since he adopted the Sammy Khan gimmick and was turned into a cartoon character by Javed Afridi for marketing.

Translation: “Sammy you are black but you are our brother”.

torr and rorr translate to “black” and “brother” in Pashto. They rhyme.

Sammy actually found out about it in a live video session with Javed Afridi and Younis Khan in 2017 where Sammy asked for the translation and Younis said that it was racism. Sammy started laughing.

It appears that racism is okay and actually a laughing matter when you are getting paid millions.

Opportunists like Sammy who milk movements are the ones who defame genuine victims and put the whole movement in bad light.

Moreover, I don’t buy the notion that Sammy did not know what kaala/kalu meant until he played for SRH in 2013. The Pakistani media/players referred to the West Indies team as kaali andhi “black storm” in the 70s and 80s, and Sammy has been playing international cricket since 2004 and has played multiple matches against Pakistan and India.

Does he really think people are going to believe that he didn’t know the meaning of Kaalu/Kala until 2013?

Could this be a twist in tale? Apparently Sammy knew the meaning of the term back in 2014. So he is definitely lying that someone told him now. It would be a shame if Sammy is milking this very important cause to stay relevant.

Sammy joked about ‘k***’ nickname in 2014 birthday post to Laxman

Daren Sammy laughed about his nickname ‘k***’ in a Twitter interaction with VVS Laxman on the latter’s birthday in 2014.

Sammy has since spoken out about how he was referred to by the racist term during his time at IPL side Sunrisers Hyderabad, where Sammy was a player and Laxman a mentor in 2014, having only recently discovered its meaning. At the time, he said he thought it meant “stallion”.

On November 1, 2014, the former West Indies captain tweeted the following message to the legendary India batsman: “Happy birthday
@VVSLaxman281. May God continue to bless you. #bestdresser oh remember dark k***. &#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;”

Laxman replied: “thanks a lot Darren.”
 
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Could this be a twist in tale? Apparently Sammy knew the meaning of the term back in 2014. So he is definitely lying that someone told him now. It would be a shame if Sammy is milking this very important cause to stay relevant.

Sammy joked about ‘k***’ nickname in 2014 birthday post to Laxman

Yeah already this conversation is done, Sammy himself said he thought it meant stallion, that's why he used that term.
 
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Former West Indies skipper Darren Sammy had revealed last week that he was subjected to racial comments while playing for Sunrisers Hyderabad in the IPL. Sammy released a video on Monday on Instagram, in which he elaborated on his feelings when he got to know the meaning of the word he and Sri Lankan all-rounder Thisara Perera were called in the Sunrisers Hyderabad dressing room. Sammy then decided to personally contact the ones who used to call him by that ‘derogatory word’.

The two-time T20 World Cup-winning captain on Thursday posted on social media that he had the conversation with ‘one of the players’ that he had accused of using a potentially racist jibe. Sammy revealed that after having an ‘interesting conversation’ with the player, he was reassured that the word came from ‘a place of love’.

“I’m pleased to say that I’ve had a really interesting conversation with one of the guys and we are looking at ways to educate rather than focusing on the negatives. My brother reassured me that he operated from a place of love and I believe him (sic),” Daren Sammy said on social media.

Earlier, Sammy, who represented Sunrisers Hyderabad in 2013 and 2014 seasons of IPL, had said that at the time when he was being called with the word, he didn’t know the meaning, and his teammates used to laugh every time after calling him by that name.

“I will be messaging those people, you guys know who you are, I must admit at that time when I was being called as that word I thought the word meant strong stallion or whatever it is, I did not know what it meant, every time I was called with that word, there was laughter at that moment, I thought teammates are laughing so it must be something funny,” Sammy had said.

“Now, I realise it was degrading, I will be texting you guys and I will ask you as to when you called me with that name, did you all mean it in any bad way or form? I have had great memories in all my dressing rooms, so all those who used to you call me with that word, think about it, let’s have a conversation, if it was in a bad way then I would be really disappointed,” he added.

Interestingly, Sammy’s teammates during that time in SRH, the likes of Irfan Pathan, Venugopal Rao, and Parthiv Patel, however, said they were not aware of any such racial comments made towards the West Indian all-rounder.

“I was there with him (Sammy) in 2014. I feel had this really happened, the matter would definitely have been discussed. So I’m not aware of such things as nothing was discussed in a larger way. But at the same time, we need to educate our people because I’ve seen them (racial jibes) in domestic cricket,” Irfan said.

The former Windies skipper has been a vocal supporter of the protests that are currently going on in the United States over the death of an African-American man named George Floyd. Sammy had also made an appeal to the ICC and other cricket boards to support the fight against social injustice and racism.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...the-players/story-ruvB5yJ3or3TWibrvjEySO.html
 
He doesn’t need to tell me. His lack of credibility due to his selectively is there for everyone to see. Refer to my first post in this thread.

I dont need to refer to nothing, he is entitled to talk about what effects him, no-one has got the right to say he doesnt.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t get me wrong I’m not condoning what was done/said. I’m saying let’s use this opportunity to educate each other so it doesn’t happen again. One can only apologize if he/she feels wrong about something. I’m confident&proud to be black. That will never change 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾😂 <a href="https://t.co/HeA1Erwby3">https://t.co/HeA1Erwby3</a></p>— Daren Sammy (@darensammy88) <a href="https://twitter.com/darensammy88/status/1271266893131907073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Former West Indies captain Daren Sammy says he has accepted a former team-mate's explanation of a potentially racist nickname he was given at the Sunrisers Hyderabad and hopes the issue can be used to educate players about racism.

Earlier this week, the 36-year-old sought clarification from his former team-mates over the nickname used for him when he was part of the Indian Premier League franchise from 2013-14.

Sammy said he did not know the meaning of a Hindi word that some unnamed Sunrisers team-mates would call him and only became aware of its racial connotations after watching a TV show that discussed the issue.

"I'm please[d] to say that I've had a really interesting conversation with one of the guys and we are looking at ways to educate rather than focusing on the negatives," Sammy tweeted.

"My brother reassured me that he operated from a place of love and I believe him."

"It's a great opportunity to educate people about certain things that have been said or done, that even though you don't mean it in any way to be degrading to someone else, but the fact that it can be perceived to [be] that or it could mean that."

The Sunrisers Hyderabad and Indian cricket board (BCCI) officials Reuters contacted declined to comment.

Several athletes have spoken out about racism in sport and society after the death of George Floyd, a black man who died on May 25 after a white policeman knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes in Minneapolis.

India's football captain Sunil Chhetri stressed the need to confront any racist behaviour.

"Racism comes from ignorance," Chhetri said in a statement issued by the country's football federation.

"If I see someone being racist, I would get hold of them and explain to them why what they are doing is wrong," said the striker.

https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...es-explanation-on-potentially-racist-nickname
 
While watching a show on Netflix released shortly after the killing of George Floyd -- a 46-year-old Black man who died after a police officer knelt on his neck for almost nine minutes -- West Indian cricketer Daren Sammy heard comedian Hasan Minhaj describe the term "kalu," a word that is used as a racial slur in the Indian subcontinent.

Sammy says his mind immediately went back to when he played in the Indian Premier League with the Sunrisers Hyderabad in 2013 and 2014 -- and in particular, when the nickname "kalu" was used to describe him and the Sri Lankan player Thisara Perera.

Perera declined to comment when offered the opportunity.

The nickname became so commonplace that Sammy says he even used it to describe himself.

In those years with the Sunrisers, Sammy and his teammates reached the IPL playoffs. He says one of the main reasons for their success was the "unity and the camaraderie and the way we fought for each other."

Fast forward to 2020 and all-rounder Sammy -- a former captain of the West Indian team -- experienced a range of emotions, as he began to realize how "kalu" is actually used.

In a video he posted on Instagram, Sammy called on former teammates who used the nickname to reach out for a conversation about the word.

He says he's since had one former teammate say he was "operating from a position of brotherly love." However, Sammy believes the term is not appropriate and should no longer be used.

Sammy's realization came just a few days after Floyd was killed by police in Minneapolis, US on May 25 and during the protests that followed shortly after.

"It came at a point in time where racism and social injustice and systemic racism was at the forefront of everybody's mind," Sammy said.

But Sammy's social media accounts show a number of people defending the nickname -- and even calling him it. Their argument is that the word isn't racist and is just a nickname.

a man holding a ball: Sammy celebrates winning the ICC World Twenty20 tournament after beating England in the final.© Ryan Pierse/Getty Images AsiaPac/Getty Images Sammy celebrates winning the ICC World Twenty20 tournament after beating England in the final.
However, Sammy says the ongoing usage shows there is still a huge "part of the (South Asian) culture that really needs educating."

"As someone who leads, you have to have the difficult conversations and I'm not afraid to have it. It doesn't matter," he says. "Right is right. There's no wrong time to do the right thing.

"That's part of the educating and talking about those subjects that will help bring awareness out there into that culture."

Parvez Rasool, one of Sammy's Sunrisers teammates in 2014, said that it is "unfortunate" if the term was used against Sammy.

"If someone has used such words against Sammy, it's unfortunate," he told CNN. "I was a part of the team, I thoroughly enjoyed playing under his captaincy. He is a very jolly man.

"This conversation never happened in front of me. But, if someone has used derogatory words against Sammy it is extremely unfortunate."

The Board of Control for Cricket in India, which regulates the IPL, didn't immediately respond to CNN's request for comment.

'I believe I'm beautiful'
Although officially abolished in 1950, Indian society is still largely categorized by caste.

The caste system categorizes Hindus at birth -- defining their place in society, what jobs they can do and who they can marry. Those at the bottom of the system are called "untouchables."

And in Indian popular culture, people from lower castes are often depicted as having darker skin. Sammy believes this crossover between caste and colorism explains some of the prejudice he sees in India, "where the powerful really suffocate the less fortunate," he said.

"To me, that symbol of the cop kneeling on George Floyd's neck, that's what it showed to me. It was like a man in power suffocating somebody who can't help themselves."

The police killing of Floyd led Sammy to re-examine the time he spent in India and that period of reflection also made him ponder India's long history with skin-lightening products.

Some Bollywood stars have been criticized for promoting "fairness" creams.

Last month, Hindustan Unilever announced it would "stop using the word 'Fair' in the brand name" of its "Fair & Lovely" skincare brand. The company also acknowledged it had previously played up "the benefits of fairness, whitening and skin lightening" while marketing its products.

"Any place that keeps promoting the fairer you are, the more beautiful you look, then you have to understand something is wrong with that system," Sammy said.

"What about the people that look like me? Aren't they beautiful? Because I believe I'm beautiful. But why should I bleach or lighten the color of my skin to be deemed beautiful? It's wrong. And it's a difficult subject but it's one that must be taught."

Sammy, who has played 38 Test matches for the West Indies, said cricket's international governing body, the International Cricket Council (ICC), must also take responsibility for educating players and fans about racism.

"The ICC tries to protect the game, well they do. Every cricketer coming into international cricket or playing the league, the first thing they do (is) have an anti-doping and anti-corruption seminar," he said.

"You are educated. They have campaigns going all across the cricket world educating you about those things. I think the same emphasis should be placed towards anti-racism, learning about other cultures.

"If you understand my story, if you know where I come from, what drives me to play cricket, then you'd understand how to describe me, you will understand why I do the things I do. So when you feel like telling me something about the color of my skin, you would know, you would be educated as you know what, I've come a long way."

The ICC didn't respond to CNN's request for comment.

Like other sports, representation is another problem the game faces.

Very few teams across the world have Black, Asian, and minority ethnic head coaches, which is something that needs to be rectified if the sport is going to move on, according to Sammy.

"How many coaches of color do you see going around in cricket? Do you think you will ever see a coach of color being the head coach of England or also Australia or New Zealand?" Sammy said.

"How do you give equal opportunities to the people here in the Caribbean, when you don't actually give them the chance to see how good they are. Give us more opportunities to show you that we are good too."

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"But you see, we embrace quote unquote, a white coach, in the West Indies, in South Africa, in Pakistan. Why is it so easy for us to embrace the entire world and it is so difficult for the world to embrace a few of us?"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...racist-indian-nickname/ar-BB16nV8E?li=BBnbcA1
 
Can’t defend racism or any sort. Calling any human based on appearance in a condescending manner is wrong.

Anyways I read some posts on the first page drawing equivalence with Sarfaraz.

Sarfaraz managed to do it in South Africa of all places. I repeat he picked South Africa to use a slur against a black man in 2019. You can’t even make that up. Do I really have to explain to people why that is unbelievable, sad and funny at the same time .
 
Was Sammy discriminated like not allowed to eat with the other players or get his salary docked for being black or given a separate accommodation from the other players or called names when he didn’t perform?

I will not defend the word Kalu even if it was used in an endearing way. It doesn’t make it right. However this just seems to be Sammy riding the wave for some extra attention under the current theme.
 
Darren Sammy’s social media outpouring, as the ‘Black Lives Matter’ protests raged, that he too had been a target of racist jibe in the Indian Premier League (IPL) drew attention to an issue in Indian sport that has often been ignored.

The skipper of two victorious World T20 campaigns by West Indies was furious when he found out through a Netflix show that ‘kalu’—he was often called that by some teammates during his three seasons with Sunrisers Hyderabad—was a racist slur. Sammy threatened to call out the players but settled the issue after having an “interesting conversation” with one of those involved.

“We’re looking at ways to educate rather than focus on the negatives. My brother reassured me he operated from a place of love and I believe him,” he then wrote.

The BLM movement found resonance in several sports, be it the English Premier League, NBA or international cricket with players taking the knee during the West Indies tour of England as well. In an interview, Sammy, leading St. Lucia Zouks in the Caribbean Premier League that started on Tuesday, stresses the need to discuss racism openly.


Does sport need a platform to discuss racism, which can be a way to eradicate it on the field?

Definitely. If you saw the first game of cricket after the Covid lockdown—the Test between England and West Indies—there was lot of discussion on the subject. I was inspired by one of Michael Holding’s interviews—the passion with which he spoke about what he went through and what should be done to raise awareness on racism. You look around, we as black people are not asking for much. Just treat us as normal human beings. There is much needed, discussion and education on the subject which is racism.


You have shown maturity and kindness in a recent instance

I guess being the captain of a national team gives you the recognition to be able to lead. I have been captain of two World T20 winning sides and also leagues like the Pakistan Super League and another one in Hong Kong. That experience and maturity does count in the leagues I play. To me it’s not just about being captain. I think the word ‘leader’ resonates more with me. Even when I am not the captain, I have always played a leadership role.


Does it make you sad that despite globalisation in so many spheres, people are still judged by their colour?

It’s a mindset, a culture. You see it every day. People have to learn. I can’t stress enough on the education part. The more you have it out there, the more people will see this is not the way to do things. We’ve to treat people as equals, and not because of the colour of your skin. It’s important to speak out on the subject.

Would you be taking a proactive role in talking to your players on the subject?

I didn’t wait for CPL to start the conversation. I am always open to discuss how we can grow as human beings and bring awareness to issues other people may be afraid to speak about. This year most definitely CPL is doing things to raise awareness through the Black Lives Matter movement. I will also play my part.


Sports organisations are supporting their players to take an active stance against racism (like taking the knee). Is that a welcome sign?

It’s a step in the right direction if you understand what the significance of taking a knee is. Showing solidarity and support for the movement is a positive sign. Especially, you look at the NBA players who took the knee and had a massive effect in generating global support. They raise awareness in the process and it goes a long way.


How do you see cricket without fans, although it is for health reasons?

For the first time in CPL there will be no fans. That’s going to be something to adapt to. If you take out CPL and pretend it’s a club match at home, it has that type of atmosphere. I will tell you what, I will have no problems with my players hearing me when I shout to them to move from one position to another. I am not looking forward to the empty stands, but I am looking forward to playing some cricket and be heard.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...quad-report/story-lcNDchKaWIeNsHILcb5Z6J.html
 
I'm getting bored of this nonsense.. If kalu is racist then white and brown too is racist remarks.. Didn't we call English peoples as white people sometimes?
 
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