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Both players got enough backing, plays all format and aren't really in elite category either. Who is a better batsman and likely to play bigger role in World Cup 2023?
 
There is no comparison. Imam is miles ahead of KL Rahul as an ODI batter. He’s ranked in the top 5 in ODI rankings. What is KL’s rank?
KL rahul has not established himself in the Indian team and nailed down his role. He’s done pretty good in the middle order but still needs to lock it down.
Both of them haven’t performed in big games, although Imam hasn’t played that many tournaments.
 
Farabi said:
There is no comparison. Imam is miles ahead of KL Rahul as an ODI batter. He’s ranked in the top 5 in ODI rankings. What is KL’s rank?
KL rahul has not established himself in the Indian team and nailed down his role. He’s done pretty good in the middle order but still needs to lock it down.
Both of them haven’t performed in big games, although Imam hasn’t played that many tournaments.
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Imam has bashed minnows a lot and in turn inflated his stats.
 
Farabi said:
There is no comparison. Imam is miles ahead of KL Rahul as an ODI batter. He’s ranked in the top 5 in ODI rankings. What is KL’s rank?
KL rahul has not established himself in the Indian team and nailed down his role. He’s done pretty good in the middle order but still needs to lock it down.
Both of them haven’t performed in big games, although Imam hasn’t played that many tournaments.
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Kl Rahul has a strike rate of 86 while Imam has a strike rate of 82 despite playing a lot of matches against B teams and minnows on flat wickets.

Imam will cost Pakistan in big matches at the World Cup with his style of play in a previous era he would struggle to have a strike rate above 70 he’s very lucky he’s playing in an easy era for an opening batsman.
 
Rahul was better in his prime, but he's regressed, still a quality middle order bat, but theirs a reason he was shifted from opening to the middle order, opening wasn't working and he had a string of consistent low scores at the opening position.

Imam currently is superior, but Peak Rahul is better then Imam.
 
Imam in our next Wajahatul Wasti or Imran Farhat. Sorry not a match winner or talent but a player who has been groomed through his early selection that helped him cement his place. What I do like about Imam , he keeps his game simple and doesn't give away his wicket easily. He keeps nudging the ball and dispatches bad balls.
 
Ab Fan said:
Imam has bashed minnows a lot and in turn inflated his stats.
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ODIs not having complete lineups is not exclusive to matches against Pakistan. This phenomenon is consistent across all teams. KL Rahul and the Indian team have also dominated weaker/depleted opponents. The statistics of KL Rahul and other Indian batters are also significantly boosted due to the worlds’s most favorable batting conditions in India and England, with flat wickets and micky mouse grounds and 350 par scores.
A comparison could be with Gill in future, but Gill is too new and still an unknown quantity, whereas Imam has consistently racked up the runs since 2018. The guy has 26 50+ score in 60 games. That’s unreal consistency.
 
Cric1234 said:
Kl Rahul has a strike rate of 86 while Imam has a strike rate of 82 despite playing a lot of matches against B teams and minnows on flat wickets.

Imam will cost Pakistan in big matches at the World Cup with his style of play in a previous era he would struggle to have a strike rate above 70 he’s very lucky he’s playing in an easy era for an opening batsman.
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Imam's SR/Avg when opening - 82.28, Avg/51.50

Rahul's SR/Avg when opening - 79.70, Avg/43.57

When opening Rahul has three centuries which he scored against Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, and the West Indies. Keep in mind that Rahul opened for Ind against NZ in the 2019 World Cup Semi-final where he got out after scoring 1 run.

I'm comparing their opening performances because it wouldn't otherwise make sense to compare a middle-order bat with an opener. When comparing opening abilities we get a better idea of their skill since they are faced with the same challenges in that batting position. Aside from the fact that Imam has never batted in the middle-order.
 
Ab Fan said:
Imam has bashed minnows a lot and in turn inflated his stats.
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Rahul has scored two centuries against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. One against NZ and one against Eng.

He scored his centuries against the following attacks -

NZ's bowling attack - Southee, Jamieson, Hamish Bennett, CDG, and Neesham.

Eng's bowling attack - Curran, Topley, Curren, Stokes, Ali, Rashid.

Not exactly full-strength bowling lineups.

Ind lost both matches convincingly due to the flatness of the surface in both these matches.
 
I think after the Australian tour,Wc, all pak players statistical and impact analysis will be done and dusted.
 
Hextro said:
Imam's SR/Avg when opening - 82.28, Avg/51.50

Rahul's SR/Avg when opening - 79.70, Avg/43.57

When opening Rahul has three centuries which he scored against Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, and the West Indies. Keep in mind that Rahul opened for Ind against NZ in the 2019 World Cup Semi-final where he got out after scoring 1 run.

I'm comparing their opening performances because it wouldn't otherwise make sense to compare a middle-order bat with an opener. When comparing opening abilities we get a better idea of their skill since they are faced with the same challenges in that batting position. Aside from the fact that Imam has never batted in the middle-order.
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Rahul is an awful opening batsman. He has found success in middle order only.
Hextro said:
Rahul has scored two centuries against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. One against NZ and one against Eng.

He scored his centuries against the following attacks -

NZ's bowling attack - Southee, Jamieson, Hamish Bennett, CDG, and Neesham.

Eng's bowling attack - Curran, Topley, Curren, Stokes, Ali, Rashid.

Not exactly full-strength bowling lineups.

Ind lost both matches convincingly due to the flatness of the surface in both these matches.
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At 5, he is not going to hit hundreds. He has some knocks like 80(52) types and 75(91) in a tricky chase vs Australia which have been good ones.
 
Hextro said:
Imam's SR/Avg when opening - 82.28, Avg/51.50

Rahul's SR/Avg when opening - 79.70, Avg/43.57

When opening Rahul has three centuries which he scored against Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, and the West Indies. Keep in mind that Rahul opened for Ind against NZ in the 2019 World Cup Semi-final where he got out after scoring 1 run.

I'm comparing their opening performances because it wouldn't otherwise make sense to compare a middle-order bat with an opener. When comparing opening abilities we get a better idea of their skill since they are faced with the same challenges in that batting position. Aside from the fact that Imam has never batted in the middle-order.
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That’s nice I just looked at their overall strike rate Imams batting will cost Pakistan over the next few months his strike rates at the previous Asia Cup and World Cup were 73 and 76 clearly he saves his best for B teams and minnows.
 
Cric1234 said:
That’s nice I just looked at their overall strike rate Imams batting will cost Pakistan over the next few months his strike rates at the previous Asia Cup and World Cup were 73 and 76 clearly he saves his best for B teams and minnows.
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Hextro said:
Rahul has scored two centuries against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. One against NZ and one against Eng.

He scored his centuries against the following attacks -

NZ's bowling attack - Southee, Jamieson, Hamish Bennett, CDG, and Neesham.

Eng's bowling attack - Curran, Topley, Curren, Stokes, Ali, Rashid.

Not exactly full-strength bowling lineups.

Ind lost both matches convincingly due to the flatness of the surface in both these matches.
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KL hasn't exactly been bashing full-strength teams. If Imam saves his best for Alphebeth teams and minnows then so does Rahul.
 
Ab Fan said:
Rahul is an awful opening batsman. He has found success in middle order only.

At 5, he is not going to hit hundreds. He has some knocks like 80(52) types and 75(91) in a tricky chase vs Australia which have been good ones.
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Then why are we comparing a middle-order batsman with an opener? I thought we were gonna compare them as openers because both of them would've faced the same challenges at that batting position. Otherwise, this comparison makes no sense.

It's like comparing Hashim Amla's role with Dhoni's. There is a big distinction between the role of a top-order batsman and the role of a middle-order batsman.
 
Rahul won't be opening this comparison isn't justified. But Imam is a better ODI player than Rahul
 
Imam's batting technique is much more solid compared to KL Rahul which is why he has been more successful than Rahul.
 
Imam's ODI numbers are better than Rahul, but Rahul is much better batsman than him in all three formats.
 
Hextro said:
Then why are we comparing a middle-order batsman with an opener? I thought we were gonna compare them as openers because both of them would've faced the same challenges at that batting position. Otherwise, this comparison makes no sense.

It's like comparing Hashim Amla's role with Dhoni's. There is a big distinction between the role of a top-order batsman and the role of a middle-order batsman.
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In ODIs, the ball barely swing couple of overs. Middle order is a tougher job than opening as you play freely as opener but in middle order, you play as per game situation.

Sharma was averaging a laughable 29 for 6 years in middle order but as soon as he became opener, he averages 58 in next 6 years. That's why opening in ODIs is an easier job than middle order where the pressure is also higher.
 
Ab Fan said:
In ODIs, the ball barely swing couple of overs. Middle order is a tougher job than opening as you play freely as opener but in middle order, you play as per game situation.

Sharma was averaging a laughable 29 for 6 years in middle order but as soon as he became opener, he averages 58 in next 6 years. That's why opening in ODIs is an easier job than middle order where the pressure is also higher.
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not in the case of KL Rahul. It depends on the skills. There’s good examples in either direction.
 
Ab Fan said:
In ODIs, the ball barely swing couple of overs. Middle order is a tougher job than opening as you play freely as opener but in middle order, you play as per game situation.

Sharma was averaging a laughable 29 for 6 years in middle order but as soon as he became opener, he averages 58 in next 6 years. That's why opening in ODIs is an easier job than middle order where the pressure is also higher.
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So KL Rahul is a bad opener because opening is easier than batting in the middle order?

According to your logic, he should've dominated in that opening spot and yet he failed. Rahul has opened in 23 matches so you can't say he hasn't gotten his chances.

He even has a lower SR than Imam as an opener.
 
Hextro said:
So KL Rahul is a bad opener because opening is easier than batting in the middle order?

According to your logic, he should've dominated in that opening spot and yet he failed. Rahul has opened in 23 matches so you can't say he hasn't gotten his chances.

He even has a lower SR than Imam as an opener.
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He isn't bad opener, he is terrible actually. Probably even worse.

It's about roles. He should play as middle order always. Usually in modern era, Opening has been easy because pitches are flat, players are in circle and you don't have to power the new ball, just time it in the gap, the white ball also doesn't swing enough. It's like a golden opportunity if you get a chance to open as a youngster. But Rahul has a mindset of meek guy when he opens as he thinks he has to bat 50 overs now. In middle order, he is more fearless.
 
Ab Fan said:
In ODIs, the ball barely swing couple of overs. Middle order is a tougher job than opening as you play freely as opener but in middle order, you play as per game situation.

Sharma was averaging a laughable 29 for 6 years in middle order but as soon as he became opener, he averages 58 in next 6 years. That's why opening in ODIs is an easier job than middle order where the pressure is also higher.
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It depends Player to player. Some players prefer as bat as openers and some as middle order batsmen.

Sharma was a terrible middle order bat but a killer Opener in his prime. KL Rahul is a decent middle order bat but a horrible Opener.

Virat kholi anytime he's asked to open he's failed but no 3 he's born to play that position.

Fakhar Zaman wouldn't be able to function in the middle order.
 
KL Rahul should not be compared to anyone. He is in a league of his own where his brain is tied up by invisible ropes and tortured by make believe demons.
 
Ab Fan said:
He isn't bad opener, he is terrible actually. Probably even worse.

It's about roles. He should play as middle order always. Usually in modern era, Opening has been easy because pitches are flat, players are in circle and you don't have to power the new ball, just time it in the gap, the white ball also doesn't swing enough. It's like a golden opportunity if you get a chance to open as a youngster. But Rahul has a mindset of meek guy when he opens as he thinks he has to bat 50 overs now. In middle order, he is more fearless.
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You answered your own post at the end by making that comment about Rahul. If opening was so easy, Rahul should have nailed it but he didn’t because he wasn’t a good fit.

Not all openers are nailing it. There are still just a handful of top ODI openers in the world.
 
mominsaigol said:
It depends Player to player. Some players prefer as bat as openers and some as middle order batsmen.

Sharma was a terrible middle order bat but a killer Opener in his prime. KL Rahul is a decent middle order bat but a horrible Opener.

Virat kholi anytime he's asked to open he's failed but no 3 he's born to play that position.

Fakhar Zaman wouldn't be able to function in the middle order.
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Kohli hasn't failed as opener. He has excellent record as opener in internationals and IPL both.
 
Ab Fan said:
Kohli hasn't failed as opener. He has excellent record as opener in internationals and IPL both.
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When? IPL maybe don't know about that, never seen him perform as an Opener in international.
 
Ab Fan said:
He isn't bad opener, he is terrible actually. Probably even worse.

It's about roles. He should play as middle order always. Usually in modern era, Opening has been easy because pitches are flat, players are in circle and you don't have to power the new ball, just time it in the gap, the white ball also doesn't swing enough. It's like a golden opportunity if you get a chance to open as a youngster. But Rahul has a mindset of meek guy when he opens as he thinks he has to bat 50 overs now. In middle order, he is more fearless.
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Unfortunately Rahul's "meekness" has seeped into his middle-order batting in recent times. Since his last century, he has been striking at 81.07 while batting in the middle order. Note that the SR I mentioned is boosted by WI(102) and Bangladesh(88) bashing. If we exclude those two then the SR drops to 75.
 
Hextro said:
Unfortunately Rahul's "meekness" has seeped into his middle-order batting in recent times. Since his last century, he has been striking at 81.07 while batting in the middle order. Note that the SR I mentioned is boosted by WI(102) and Bangladesh(88) bashing. If we exclude those two then the SR drops to 75.
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Some of those games are low scoring where Rahul saved his team from collapse and chased down total.
 
Ab Fan said:
Some of those games are low scoring where Rahul saved his team from collapse and chased down total.
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Since when did we start counting the fifties against SL and Ban as match-winning innings? You'd expect a player from a top 5 ODI team to be winning against those types of teams easily.

Other than that the only "match-winning" innings he has against a good team in recent years is his 75 off 91 against Aus while chasing 189. That inning came against Aus's B team BTW.

You guys should be demanding that Rahul be dropped from the team not opening threads comparing him to players that have completely different batting positions and responsibilities.

Currently, he's injured and we don't even know if he'll be the same player once he comes back. For all we know he might be worse due to the long layoff.
 
Rahul did not fulfil his potential and he is a mental midget. But I will take KL any day over Imam. Its not even close.

KL has that extra gear which Imam does not have. Imam can be a steady player who can score a 40 or 50 on a good day. KL on a good day has much higher ceiling.
 
Hextro said:
Since when did we start counting the fifties against SL and Ban as match-winning innings? You'd expect a player from a top 5 ODI team to be winning against those types of teams easily.

Other than that the only "match-winning" innings he has against a good team in recent years is his 75 off 91 against Aus while chasing 189. That inning came against Aus's B team BTW.

You guys should be demanding that Rahul be dropped from the team not opening threads comparing him to players that have completely different batting positions and responsibilities.

Currently, he's injured and we don't even know if he'll be the same player once he comes back. For all we know he might be worse due to the long layoff.
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The comparison is pretty fair. Imam is several levels below elite league himself so "second string" or "weaker attacks" terms won't really degrade anyone's reputation in this comparison thread.
 
Ab Fan said:
The comparison is pretty fair. Imam is several levels below elite league himself so "second string" or "weaker attacks" terms won't really degrade anyone's reputation in this comparison thread.
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You have to present arguments that definitively suggest that Rahul is better. Right now you're just saying stuff to prolong an internet debate.

There has to be some substance.
 
Hextro said:
You have to present arguments that definitively suggest that Rahul is better. Right now you're just saying stuff to prolong an internet debate.

There has to be some substance.
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I think in this Asia Cup, Rahul has left the overrated tuk tuk Imam into dust and proved why he is simply another level batsman to him.
 
Ab Fan said:
Both players got enough backing, plays all format and aren't really in elite category either. Who is a better batsman and likely to play bigger role in World Cup 2023?
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Rahul is so overrated. Never seen a more overrated player. Definition of mentally weak cricketer. Hint of pressure and he goes missing. What does he know about winning? Has he even won a champions trophy?


Imam is better.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Rahul did not fulfil his potential and he is a mental midget. But I will take KL any day over Imam. Its not even close.

KL has that extra gear which Imam does not have. Imam can be a steady player who can score a 40 or 50 on a good day. KL on a good day has much higher ceiling.
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Extra gear to fail in crucial knock out games. Absolutely. Yes
 
kron said:
Rahul is so overrated. Never seen a more overrated player. Definition of mentally weak cricketer. Hint of pressure and he goes missing. What does he know about winning? Has he even won a champions trophy?


Imam is better.
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Rahul's game at number 4 is much suited for him to be playing. He should not be opening as Indian opening slot is already filled with rohit and gill. KL rahul has lifted his game to be a permanent member of the Indian middle order. Imam is an opener in ODI so I don't think the comparison is fair as of yet.
 
This is a bad comparison..

One is a specialist opening batter and the other is a wicket keeper batter who plays in the middle order.

But, in terms of just the sheer talent and skillset, KL is several notches above Imam up Haq..
 
Imam is super consistent and getting better every year. KL Rahul is Umar Akmal without intent.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Imam is super consistent and getting better every year. KL Rahul is Umar Akmal without intent.
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What talent ? KL Rahul? What exactly do people see in him? All I see is failure after failure. Has he shown anything special? He will score in one innings and then go missing mostly.
 
kron said:
What talent ? KL Rahul? What exactly do people see in him?
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Hmmm....let us compare the overall potential of these two players. Shall we?

Top 10 knocks in KL's international career -

1. Match-winning 129 against England at Lord's , 2021

2. Match-winning 123 against South Africa at Centurion, 2021.

3. 101* (54) against full strength England in a T20, Manchester, 2018

4. 90 and 51 on a treacherous Bangalore wicket against Australia in Tests, 2017

5. 199 against England in Chennai, 2016.

6. 108 against Sri Lanka with prime Herath, Colombo 2017.

7. 111 against Pakistan after coming back straight from an injury , Colombo 2023.

8. 149 in the fourth innings against England at the Oval, 2018.

9. 110 against Australia at Sydney, 2015 (in just his second Test)

10. 110* (51) against WI against Narine Bravo, Badree etc in a T20 - Florida, 2016.


Now go ahead and list Imam's best knocks in international cricket and we will compare the quality of those knocks to decide which player has the higher ceiling or tailunt. :)
 
Mesozoic said:
Hmmm....let us compare the overall potential of these two players. Shall we?

Top 10 knocks in KL's international career -

1. Match-winning 129 against England at Lord's , 2021

2. Match-winning 123 against South Africa at Centurion, 2021.

3. 101* (54) against full strength England in a T20, Manchester, 2018

4. 90 and 51 on a treacherous Bangalore wicket against Australia in Tests, 2017

5. 199 against England in Chennai, 2016.

6. 108 against Sri Lanka with prime Herath, Colombo 2017.

7. 111 against Pakistan after coming back straight from an injury , Colombo 2023.

8. 149 in the fourth innings against England at the Oval, 2018.

9. 110 against Australia at Sydney, 2015 (in just his second Test)

10. 110* (51) against WI against Narine Bravo, Badree etc in a T20 - Florida, 2016.


Now go ahead and list Imam's best knocks in international cricket and we will compare the quality of those knocks to decide which player has the higher ceiling or tailunt. :)
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Knock out games In odi world cup. Just talking about world cups. Actually forget world cups. I will be nice. Include even useless cups like champions trophy and t20 world cups. When has the great kl Rahul performed in KOs. Has he even done it for his Punjabi ipl side? He is the definition of being mentally weak cricketer. He is an average talent.

All these bilateral scores don't mean much.

He is known to be a failure in crucial stages.

Lets go through the list anyway.
149 vs england. In a series that india. Lost 4-1. Inconsequential game. What did he do prior to that last test on an absolute flat deck?

Match winning innings vs south africa where he was dropped twice btw. Reprieve. Again series lost by India 2 -1. Partly due to his poor batting f in that series barring that one fluke 129. He was poor after that innings for the entire series. One innings wonder per test series. That's his level.

Again that knock va England he was dropped several times. Fluke innings. It wasn't a chance less performance where he doesn't gift chances to opponents. Whenever he scores big he often always gets lucky.

Guess what he fails in KOs cause luck runs out.

We are nearing the world cup now. Why are you mixing tests and bilateral odi stats when I clearly mentioned about performing in Kos.
 
kron said:
Knock out games In odi world cup. Just talking about world cups. Actually forget world cups. I will be nice. Include even useless cups like champions trophy and t20 world cups. When has the great kl Rahul performed in KOs. Has he even done it for his Punjabi ipl side? He is the definition of being mentally weak cricketer. He is an average talent.

All these bilateral scores don't mean much.

He is known to be a failure in crucial stages.

Lets go through the list anyway.
149 vs england. In a series that india. Lost 4-1. Inconsequential game. What did he do prior to that last test on an absolute flat deck?

Match winning innings vs south africa where he was dropped twice btw. Reprieve. Again series lost by India 2 -1. Partly due to his poor batting f in that series barring that one fluke 129. He was poor after that innings for the entire series. One innings wonder per test series. That's his level.

Again that knock va England he was dropped several times. Fluke innings. It wasn't a chance less performance where he doesn't gift chances to opponents. Whenever he scores big he often always gets lucky.

Guess what he fails in KOs cause luck runs out.

We are nearing the world cup now. Why are you mixing tests and bilateral odi stats when I clearly mentioned about performing in Kos.
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Check the scoreboard of last India - Pakistan ODI world cup game .both were played that match . enjoy
 
Mesozoic said:
Hmmm....let us compare the overall potential of these two players. Shall we?

Top 10 knocks in KL's international career -

1. Match-winning 129 against England at Lord's , 2021

2. Match-winning 123 against South Africa at Centurion, 2021.

3. 101* (54) against full strength England in a T20, Manchester, 2018

4. 90 and 51 on a treacherous Bangalore wicket against Australia in Tests, 2017

5. 199 against England in Chennai, 2016.

6. 108 against Sri Lanka with prime Herath, Colombo 2017.

7. 111 against Pakistan after coming back straight from an injury , Colombo 2023.

8. 149 in the fourth innings against England at the Oval, 2018.

9. 110 against Australia at Sydney, 2015 (in just his second Test)

10. 110* (51) against WI against Narine Bravo, Badree etc in a T20 - Florida, 2016.


Now go ahead and list Imam's best knocks in international cricket and we will compare the quality of those knocks to decide which player has the higher ceiling or tailunt. :)
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That 199 vs England, he was on God mode.
 
Devadwal said:
Check the scoreboard of last India - Pakistan ODI world cup game .both were played that match . enjoy
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You know I am glad india keep backing a failure like him. Wait till you make semis and he costs you once again.
 
kron said:
Knock out games In odi world cup. Just talking about world cups. Actually forget world cups. I will be nice. Include even useless cups like champions trophy and t20 world cups. When has the great kl Rahul performed in KOs. Has he even done it for his Punjabi ipl side? He is the definition of being mentally weak cricketer. He is an average talent.

All these bilateral scores don't mean much.

He is known to be a failure in crucial stages.

Lets go through the list anyway.
149 vs england. In a series that india. Lost 4-1. Inconsequential game. What did he do prior to that last test on an absolute flat deck?

Match winning innings vs south africa where he was dropped twice btw. Reprieve. Again series lost by India 2 -1. Partly due to his poor batting f in that series barring that one fluke 129. He was poor after that innings for the entire series. One innings wonder per test series. That's his level.

Again that knock va England he was dropped several times. Fluke innings. It wasn't a chance less performance where he doesn't gift chances to opponents. Whenever he scores big he often always gets lucky.

Guess what he fails in KOs cause luck runs out.

We are nearing the world cup now. Why are you mixing tests and bilateral odi stats when I clearly mentioned about performing in Kos.
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Arey bhaijaan itna kyu thak rhe ho ? :uakmal


I've asked you to do a simple thing. Please list out Imam Ul Haq's top knocks in international cricket so that we can compare the potential of these two players.

If Imam is much more tailunted than KL as you claimed, he must have atleast 10 noteworthy knocks in his 6 year old career right? Come on now...list them out and end this argument once and for all... don't be shy :)
 
Bhaijaan said:
That 199 vs England, he was on God mode.
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Also the Australian series in 2017. He's the biggest reason why we won that series and maintained our winning streak at home. Four 50+ scores in Bangalore and Dharamshala and those ended up being the difference between the two sides. Or else Aussies would have won that 3-0.
 
Coming to playing under pressure...

Highly tailunted Imam Ul Haq in ODIs against India -

Innings - 4
Runs - 28
Average - 7
Strike Rate - 44
Highest score - 10


Meanwhile KL Rahul - 57 in a single game against Pakistan in 2019, that's not even his top 20 knock.

:apology
 
Mesozoic said:
Coming to playing under pressure...

Highly tailunted Imam Ul Haq in ODIs against India -

Innings - 4
Runs - 28
Average - 7
Strike Rate - 44
Highest score - 10


Meanwhile KL Rahul - 57 in a single game against Pakistan in 2019, that's not even his top 20 knock.

:apology
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One is an opener the other one is now a middle order batsman.
 
Mesozoic said:
Arey bhaijaan itna kyu thak rhe ho ? :uakmal


I've asked you to do a simple thing. Please list out Imam Ul Haq's top knocks in international cricket so that we can compare the potential of these two players.

If Imam is much more tailunted than KL as you claimed, he must have atleast 10 noteworthy knocks in his 6 year old career right? Come on now...list them out and end this argument once and for all... don't be shy :)
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Doesn't matter. We shall see in the ko stages where your Rahul will fail yet again.
 
Mesozoic said:
Coming to playing under pressure...

Highly tailunted Imam Ul Haq in ODIs against India -

Innings - 4
Runs - 28
Average - 7
Strike Rate - 44
Highest score - 10


Meanwhile KL Rahul - 57 in a single game against Pakistan in 2019, that's not even his top 20 knock.

:apology
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H2h sure. What has kl Rahul achieved in ko games? Let's hear it. The so talented Rahul. Him as opener.

Just wait till the semis or finals if india makes it. Shaheen will end his career there.
 
kron said:
Doesn't matter. We shall see in the ko stages where your Rahul will fail yet again.
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kron said:
H2h sure. What has kl Rahul achieved in ko games? Let's hear it. The so talented Rahul. Him as opener.

Just wait till the semis or finals if india makes it. Shaheen will end his career there.
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Oh bhai... Rahul's comparison here is with freaking Imam Ul Haq. Not with Adam Gilchrist or Mathew Hayden that he suddenly needs top tier performances in multiple World Cup finals to leapfrog them.

And lol at this "ending careers" delusion. Go do such melodrama on Social media comment sections.. not on a genuine discussion forum with knowledgeable members.
 
Mesozoic said:
Oh bhai... Rahul's comparison here is with freaking Imam Ul Haq. Not with Adam Gilchrist or Mathew Hayden that he suddenly needs top tier performances in multiple World Cup finals to leapfrog them.

And lol at this "ending careers" delusion. Go do such melodrama on Social media comment sections.. not on a genuine discussion forum with knowledgeable members.
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Imam vs kl Rahul. Different positions first of all. Can't really compare. KL Rahul has been a habitual failure. Likely to happen again when you need him most.

How was he in 2019 semis? 1?

In champions trophy? Under 10 again?

In t20 world cups I believe he was a failure again?

Yea keep celebrating this proven failure.
 
kron said:
Imam vs kl Rahul. Different positions first of all. Can't really compare. KL Rahul has been a habitual failure. Likely to happen again when you need him most.
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Oh okay so now it's "can't really compare". :ROFLMAO:

But above you were saying Imam is better. Based on what exactly?

kron said:
How was he in 2019 semis? 1?

In champions trophy? Under 10 again?

In t20 world cups I believe he was a failure again?

Yea keep celebrating this proven failure.
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He has played a grand total of 2 knock out games in his career. Yes he has failed in them but that doesn't make him an inferior batter to Imam , who hasn't even played a KO game in his career..

If KL is a "proven failure" , then Imam must be a colossal failure for you. Explains why you're not even able to list out a few half decent knocks played by him in int'l cricket. ;)
 
One is a choker. other one is playing one dayers in the wrong era. But KL Rahul has extra gears as he has a couple of T20 100s. And he keeps. Definitely done better as MO batsman. As an opener he choked many times. There is no way Imam would be part of India's XI with an ancient batting approach.
 
kron said:
What talent ? KL Rahul? What exactly do people see in him? All I see is failure after failure. Has he shown anything special? He will score in one innings and then go missing mostly.
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where did I use the word 'talent'?

I have clearly mentioned that Imam is better 😑
 
jnaveen1980 said:
One is a choker. other one is playing one dayers in the wrong era. But KL Rahul has extra gears as he has a couple of T20 100s. And he keeps. Definitely done better as MO batsman. As an opener he choked many times. There is no way Imam would be part of India's XI with an ancient batting approach.
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Yes extra gears. Reverse gear which will backfire for India. If india wants to make finals they should get rid of guys like Rahul and even rohit. Proven failures in KO stages.


I am 100% confident we can beat India in a ko this time as there is no pressure on us. India don't deal with pressure well.

Is pant still recovering? Now he is a clutch player. That is a top tier talent.
 
Rahul has a higher ceiling, Imam is more consistent. Both are mental midgets, both won't win their countries big games.
 
Imam is more consistent as compare to KL Rahul, all he needs to just increase his strike rate.
 
Rahul as an opener was bad, Imam was a better opener. Rahul however as a middle order bat has played innings imam can only dream of.
 
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There is literally no memorable inns in Imam's career.

Even part time batters like Nawaz and Shadab have had their day in the sun like the India chase or the SA inns.
 
pratiktc said:
There is literally no memorable inns in Imam's career.

Even part time batters like Nawaz and Shadab have had their day in the sun like the India chase or the SA inns.
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He is playing completely in the wrong era. KL Rahul has scored a 50 in 2.4 overs against Shami and Boult. His only problem is timid batting as opener. It cost him big many times. In the middle overs he is far more consistent. Can even be dangerous.
 
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