[VIDEOS] Is Babar Azam the best all format batter in the world currently?

[Shafi]

Typical too limited and selfish player who can plays for his personal milestone.

 

[Mamoon]

Another nothing innings. You can almost guarantee that he will bottle a final.

Amla 2.0

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Reminded me of Virat Kohli today.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar has dominated a bowler like Trent Boult and people want us to believe that he is scared of Mark Wood.��

Hate really makes you delusional.

Mark Wood is much more difficult to face unless the ball is swinging. Boult is short and bowls fast medium. If there is no swing on offer, he is right up Babar’s alleys and he will hit picture perfect cover drives all day long.

It was Wood that made him look like a tailender with his 95 mph bowling. He averaged 8.5 in the three matches that Wood played and got out to him every single time.

 

[Ab Fan]

Another nothing innings. You can almost guarantee that he will bottle a final.

Amla 2.0

Very similar batters too. Not really match winners or someone who can change the complexion of the game with the blink of the eye like Kohli, de Villiers, Rohit,Warner and Buttler.

 

[The lone Ranger]

Typical and expected inning from him today in a decider match.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Very similar batters too. Not really match winners or someone who can change the complexion of the game with the blink of the eye like Kohli, de Villiers, Rohit,Warner and Buttler.

When was the last time Kohli and De Villers won the final for their teams?

 

[PakPremi]

Typical too limited and selfish player who can plays for his personal milestone.

Well he did not today and played an attacking shot you guys been screaming out for.

 

[Rana]

Well he did not today and played an attacking shot you guys been screaming out for.

It was criminal of us to ask him to play an attacking shot in the powerplay

We must hang our heads in shame

 

[PakPremi]

Another nothing innings. You can almost guarantee that he will bottle a final.

Amla 2.0

Amla was a great player. Pak will happily exchange Khushdil, Iftikhar, Shan with a player of his caliber.

 

[Markhor]

That's four successive crunch games in the space of a year where Babar has simply not turned up.

I hope he's not turning out to be one of those cricketers who's a prince in meaningless bilaterals against weakened bowling, and a pauper when it counts in big matches.

 

[PakPremi]

It was criminal of us to ask him to play an attacking shot in the powerplay

We must hang our heads in shame

No but then do not complain if he gifted his wicket in doing what you asked for. Double Standards.

 

[Rana]

No but then do not complain if he gifted his wicket in doing what you asked for. Double Standards.

Sorry brother

We should have known he isn’t good enough to occupy the position he has.

 

[PakPremi]

That's four successive crunch games in the space of a year where Babar has simply not turned up.

I hope he's not turning out to be one of those cricketers who's a prince in meaningless bilaterals against weakened bowling, and a pauper when it counts in big matches.

Games become crunch due to efforts of Babar and Rizwan that get you into final in first place, without performanced of these two the current team is unlikely to get into semifinal or final of any tournament.

 

[Rana]

Games become crunch due to efforts of Babar and Rizwan that get you into final in first place, without performanced of these two the current team is unlikely to get into semifinal or final of any tournament.

There is nothing to gain from winning a tournament in the most undeserving fashion

There are 6/7 other teams who are playing this game in the correct spirit and the correct approach

They are much, much more deserving than we are.

 

[PakPremi]

No but then do not complain if he gifted his wicket in doing what you asked for. Double Standards.

You are right lets open with Sharjeel and Asif instead. Atleast we will get to see a 6 in the first 3 overs, total score in PPover may still be less than 50 and we maybe 3 down, but wow boy do they attack.

 

[Markhor]

Games become crunch due to efforts of Babar and Rizwan that get you into final in first place, without performanced of these two the current team is unlikely to get into semifinal or final of any tournament.

At the end of a cricketer's career, you look back at the trophies you won, not how many semi-finals and finals you reached.

What's frustrating is Pakistan have little chance of winning the World Test Championship or ODI World Cup. The team has too many flaws. However T20 is more of a lottery, the best team doesn't always win the tournament, and represents Pakistan's best chance of winning silverware.

Thanks to poor tactics and timidity, we've bottled our biggest chance to win a T20 World Cup since 2009, our first Asia Cup since 2012 (and only third overall), and our first full-length T20 series win vs ENG.

 

[PakPremi]

[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] I agree with you regarding trophies but winning or not winning finals is not due to one or two players. Its always a team effort even when one guy is playing a blinder, there are always one or two giving a very good support whether it is batting or bowling. Pakistan have selected a team that seriously lacks quality in the middle order, these fake batsmen will not be able to deliver no matter how much they play. Early days for Haider Ali as he is a young man but so far he is not showing much maturity in his innings. We cannot expect Rizwan and Babar to play risky cricket and also score the missing runs from the middle order. The only way they can do that with current team is to attack selectively, but even in that it is not just upto them to succeed each time, after all the bowler and the opposing captain is also plotting to get you out. I remember before these two Pakistan used to be 3 wickets down for not much and they did not win many tournaments with that approach either. So like other teams if Pakistan has 4 quality batsmen and current bowlers then they may win something.

 

[Saj]

3rd golden duck in T20Is today for Babar Azam:

The other 2 v S Africa last year and v Afgahnistan last month

 

[Mamoon]

Good joke )

 

[arif_2021]

similar dismissal as afghanistan match

stance is too closed for left armer

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Time for others to prove that these two hoggers are taking up too much time

 

[topspin]

Not even close. He's so overrated by the green tinted hype brigade.

Needs to bat at 3 like Williamson and Root do for their respective teams.

He's nowhere near as good as Virat Kohli, who's past his prime but still came up with an ATG knock today. It was seriously special batting performance from him. Babar can only dream to deliver an innings anywhere near as good as this in a tournament.

 

[ChTab]

Babar is definitely the best all format player . Not so long ago Babar bottled a chase vs Zimbabwe in Rawalpindi.

Babar is poor man's Amla nothing else
He's on par with Iyer & Rahane

 

[jnaveen1980]

Is it fair to say it is a case of others dropping their standards due to poor form?

 

[jnaveen1980]

3rd golden duck in T20Is today for Babar Azam:

The other 2 v S Africa last year and v Afgahnistan last month

All the more reason he shouldn't open. His wicket is precious for Pakistan. Losing him early sometimes set them back right away. Today India let Pakistan off the hook from 120/7. Not many teams would do that.

 

[Hitman]

Good joke )

A lot of Pakistani fans do think he is the best all format batsman While I might have a different opinion, but I sure wouldn't disrespect them. Babar has been fabulous for the last 3 years.

 

[ChTab]

He would have been the best batter in the world if only teams playing cricket was Ban, WI, SL, NED, Ire & all other associates. Minnow basher who goes missing in all big matches.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Waiting for the protector of Babar to justify how he reminds him of Sachin Tendulkar.

 

[MHN1293]

He would have been the best batter in the world if only teams playing cricket was Ban, WI, SL, NED, Ire & all other associates. Minnow basher who goes missing in all big matches.

He can score against all big teams as he has shown in the 2019 world cup and 2021 world Cup. But he always goes missing in the pressure matches and situations

 

[heddie19]

He would have been the best batter in the world if only teams playing cricket was Ban, WI, SL, NED, Ire & all other associates. Minnow basher who goes missing in all big matches.

His test HS is against AUS
His ODI HS is against ENG
His T20i HS is against SA

I don't know what a goldfish memory posters have here.

 

[Savak]

Let's cut out the disrespect here from Pakistani posters he is Pakistan's main batsman. I would like him to give up the captaincy and focus on his performance as a player. Tendulkar was smart and less ego driven to let the captaincy go and give it to someone else more capable.

 

[ChTab]

His test HS is against AUS
His ODI HS is against ENG
His T20i HS is against SA

I don't know what a goldfish memory posters have here.

Test HS is ok It was a very good innings but not even the greatest innings by a Pakistani. Abdullah's 150 odd vs SL was much better innings.

The 151 was vs a 4th string English lineup.


No one literally no one cares about scores in bilateral T20's & that too was against 2nd or 3rd string SA bowling.

 

[heddie19]

Test HS is ok It was a very good innings but not even the greatest innings by a Pakistani. Abdullah's 150 odd vs SL was much better innings.

The 151 was vs a 4th string English lineup.


No one literally no one cares about scores in bilateral T20's & that too was against 2nd or 3rd string SA bowling.

Majority of Virat's tons are in bilaterals. No body cares about them?
Look, we all know Babar has a lot to prove to be considered as great as Kohli but this thread is about him being the best all-format player right now or not and the answer is yes, he is.

Although, I am not convinced with his t20i stats from past 2 years but he has been on another level in ODIs and improved significantly in tests too.

 

[heddie19]

Let's cut out the disrespect here from Pakistani posters he is Pakistan's main batsman. I would like him to give up the captaincy and focus on his performance as a player. Tendulkar was smart and less ego driven to let the captaincy go and give it to someone else more capable.

Tendulkar's record as a captain was abysmal.
Babar has best ODI and Tests record so far in the history of Pak cricket and 2nd best in T20Is.

I don't see any reason to give up captaincy. It is not about the ego, it is about the results.

 

[ChTab]

Majority of Virat's tons are in bilaterals. No body cares about them?
Look, we all know Babar has a lot to prove to be considered as great as Kohli but this thread is about him being the best all-format player right now or not and the answer is yes, he is.

Although, I am not convinced with his t20i stats from past 2 years but he has been on another level in ODIs and improved significantly in tests too.

I specifically mentioned scores in bilateral T20's. No one cares about Virat stats in bilateral T20I's either his record in WT20 speaks for itself OTOH Babar's stats are so bad apart from that one fifty vs Ind in last WT20 Babar is a total flop.

It's funny that you still think Babar to be the best player in the world right now.

 

[heddie19]

I specifically mentioned scores in bilateral T20's. No one cares about Virat stats in bilateral T20I's either his record in WT20 speaks for itself OTOH Babar's stats are so bad apart from that one fifty vs Ind in last WT20 Babar is a total flop.

It's funny that you still think Babar to be the best player in the world right now.

Babar was the top scorer of last year's WC and Kohli was nowhere to be seen. Lol

It is funny how easily people forget or how less they know about the game.

 

[Rana]

Babar was the top scorer of last year's WC and Kohli was nowhere to be seen. Lol

It is funny how easily people forget or how less they know about the game.

This is cricket

It doesn’t stop for anyone.

Aaj tum sab Kuch ho
Kal tum Kuch bhi nahi

#qudratKaNizaam

 

[ChTab]

Babar was the top scorer of last year's WC and Kohli was nowhere to be seen. Lol

It is funny how easily people forget or how less they know about the game.

Babar fluked his way to highest run scorer for last year's WC. He failed in all big games apart from the Indian match & his amazing innings in semi final was the reason Pakistan lost the game & the WC

 

[Ab Fan]

Babar Azam :-

Tests - Very good
ODIs - On way to become ATG
T20Is - Very good

He isn't elite level in Tests and T20s. In Tests, he can become one with time if he works harder there. In T20s, I think this is what his level is, you cannot compare him with Kohli, Warner or Buttler.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Babar Azam :-

Tests - Very good
ODIs - On way to become ATG
T20Is - Very good

He isn't elite level in Tests and T20s. In Tests, he can become one with time if he works harder there. In T20s, I think this is what his level is, you cannot compare him with Kohli, Warner or Buttler.

He isn't very good in tests. He is just good. He is 28. Only 1 century in SENA.

 

[giri26]

Babar Azam :-

Tests - Very good
ODIs - On way to become ATG
T20Is - Very good

He isn't elite level in Tests and T20s. In Tests, he can become one with time if he works harder there. In T20s, I think this is what his level is, you cannot compare him with Kohli, Warner or Buttler.

Babar is good in Tests and Good in T20I as well. He used to average over 50 in T20Is and now averages 43 with a SR of 129. Hardly very good record. In Tests as CJ pointed out above he has only one 100 in SENA and hasn't done anything spectacular which people can remember. Attractive 60's and 70's are just that, people will forget once the series is over.

 

[heddie19]

Babar fluked his way to highest run scorer for last year's WC. He failed in all big games apart from the Indian match & his amazing innings in semi final was the reason Pakistan lost the game & the WC

Fluked? LOL

The guy had 4 50's in 6 games. The only game he didn't perform was against NZ.

When will posters start seeing cricket without a blindfold.

 

[heddie19]

Babar Azam :-

Tests - Very good
ODIs - On way to become ATG
T20Is - Very good

He isn't elite level in Tests and T20s. In Tests, he can become one with time if he works harder there. In T20s, I think this is what his level is, you cannot compare him with Kohli, Warner or Buttler.

LOL. No wonder he has more runs, more match winning knocks, more 50s, more 100s than warner in T20Is despite playing less innings. It is not even close.

Let's not even talk about ODIs.

 

[Rana]

LOL. No wonder he has more runs, more match winning knocks, more 50s, more 100s than warner in T20Is despite playing less innings. It is not even close.

Let's not even talk about ODIs.

Babar Azam isn’t half the player Warner is.

Stats mean nothing

 

[cricketjoshila]

Babar Azam isn’t half the player Warner is.

Stats mean nothing

Stats mean a lot, but it has to be looked into to know the context.

 

[Asif321]

Haven’t seen babar win any big game for Pakistan since he became a captain so can’t say YES yet .
He even bottled against Zimbabwe in Pakistan . Still long way to go

 

[heddie19]

Babar Azam isn’t half the player Warner is.

Stats mean nothing

Stats mean nothing. That is the only reason you keep licking kohli even though he makes 150 chases look difficult.

 

[heddie19]

Haven’t seen babar win any big game for Pakistan since he became a captain so can’t say YES yet .
He even bottled against Zimbabwe in Pakistan . Still long way to go

Maybe you should start watching more cricket then.

1. Century in a successful run chase in South Africa - ODI series 2021
2. 122 in a successful 200+ T20 run chase in South Africa - 2021
3. undefeated 69* vs India in 10 wicket successful run chase - WC 2021
4. hard fought 50+ against afghanistan on square turner in a successful run chase - WC 2021
5. 72 ball 100 vs Australia in a 350 run chase, must win match to keep the series alive, Pak's highest chase ever - 2022
6. 119. Test century in SL when 2nd highest score was 19, we ended up winning the test - 2022
7. Unbeatable Century against England in 2nd 200+ succesful run chase - 2022
8. Unbeatable 79* in a successful run chase against Southee and Boult in Newzealand - 2022


8 Match winning knocks in a time period of 1.5 years as a captain. Bring any player who can beat that.

What funny is here that he is being compared to a player who has 1 century in 3 years and that too against afghanistan in a dead rubber

 

[ChTab]

Fluked? LOL

The guy had 4 50's in 6 games. The only game he didn't perform was against NZ.

When will posters start seeing cricket without a blindfold.

Pak played 3 games vs top sides in 2021 WC.
Babar failed pathetically vs NZ & Aus. He only scored soft runs vs associate teams 60 odd vs Scotland & 70 vs Namibia include his run a ball 50 vs Afghanistan as well where he looked like a tailender vs Rashid & didn't pick him for 75% of the time in the innings.

Zero impact & as Aqib said opposition doesn't fear him they want him to stay on the crease to eat deliveries & destroy the tempo of the innings.

 

[heddie19]

Pak played 3 games vs top sides in 2021 WC.
Babar failed pathetically vs NZ & Aus. He only scored soft runs vs associate teams 60 odd vs Scotland & 70 vs Namibia include his run a ball 50 vs Afghanistan as well where he looked like a tailender vs Rashid & didn't pick him for 75% of the time in the innings.

Zero impact & as Aqib said opposition doesn't fear him they want him to stay on the crease to eat deliveries & destroy the tempo of the innings.

Yet managed to score a 50 without picking rashind for 75% of time, not bad.

What Aqib said is that we don't get him out early is out of pure jealousy. The innings he played in the PSL final against aqib's side still haunts him.

 

[ChTab]

Yet managed to score a 50 without picking rashind for 75% of time, not bad.

What Aqib said is that we don't get him out early is out of pure jealousy. The innings he played in the PSL final against aqib's side still haunts him.

Only a deluded Babar fan will come up with statement like this. Go on keep living in la la land.

 

[Boxer]

Will end up as the best bat Pak ever produced

 

[shamaan]

Only a deluded Babar fan will come up with statement like this. Go on keep living in la la land.

Thiers no question that Babar will be Pakistan best all format player however he's a level below Kohli in t20s.

 

[ChTab]

Thiers no question that Babar will be Pakistan best all format player however he's a level below Kohli in t20s.

Statistically he will be the best ODI player from Pakistan but I'd still choose Inzi, M Yo, Saeed Anwar in front of him. In test matches he might end up as a player who scored 7k or 8k runs.

All in all he will have great record by Pakistani standards but by international standards he will have pretty average or above average record.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Maybe you should start watching more cricket then.

1. Century in a successful run chase in South Africa - ODI series 2021
2. 122 in a successful 200+ T20 run chase in South Africa - 2021
3. undefeated 69* vs India in 10 wicket successful run chase - WC 2021
4. hard fought 50+ against afghanistan on square turner in a successful run chase - WC 2021
5. 72 ball 100 vs Australia in a 350 run chase, must win match to keep the series alive, Pak's highest chase ever - 2022
6. 119. Test century in SL when 2nd highest score was 19, we ended up winning the test - 2022
7. Unbeatable Century against England in 2nd 200+ succesful run chase - 2022
8. Unbeatable 79* in a successful run chase against Southee and Boult in Newzealand - 2022


8 Match winning knocks in a time period of 1.5 years as a captain. Bring any player who can beat that.

What funny is here that he is being compared to a player who has 1 century in 3 years and that too against afghanistan in a dead rubber

Fact. Most of these innings came against second string attacks.

 

[GreenBee]

Will end up as the best bat Pak ever produced

Not even close unless stats is all you care about.

He was lucky to be playing in an era where majority of Pakistan games were either against minnows or second string attacks on flat Asian tracks. If Pakistan were a mainstream blockbuster team like before, top nations would invite and play them more often, exposing a lot of his flaws.

Give likes of Inzi similar playing opponents/conditions, and he would look like the second coming of Richards. Sehwag would have surpassed Don Bradman.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will end up as the best bat Pak ever produced

He is not near Miandad or Inzy in terms of batsmanship.

 

[daytrader]

Babar wicket today

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[Savak]

Hopefully his last series as captain. He is not man enough for the job.

 

[shah_1]

overrated batsman

Not good enough as a captain.

 

[The_KING]

Overrated batsman. He is a good batsman but not great. And the less said about his captaincy, the better. He needs to be sacked as a captain.

 

[dildilpak]

He is not near Miandad or Inzy in terms of batsmanship.

I would rate even Yousuf Youhana and Saeed Anwar over this guy. They won us many great games.

 

[SportsWarrior]

He is not near Miandad or Inzy in terms of batsmanship.

Inzy, Miandad, Mohammad Yousf, Salim Malik are all better batsman than Babar

 

[dravidthewall]

Babar azam out of form recently. He needs to fire if pakistan have any chance in this worldcup

 

[Snatch]

He is the best ODI batsman going around without a doubt. In T20's he is also one of the top batsman. And now that he has played one of the best innings of recent times in test cricket he has really elevated himself as a candidate for being the best all format batsman in the world.

No. From an opposition POV there's no fear factor with Babar like there is with the likes of a David Warner.

 

[Hitman]

Tests - Decent

ODIs - Good

T20s - Slightly above decent, keeping in mind his SR.

 

[Markhor]

Urooj Mumtaz is generally a decent commentator but she's such an embarrassing Babar fangirl.

Even after that Zimbabwe debacle she calls Babar the best all-format batsman in the world. What planet do our commentators live on ? There's no cure for our delusions.

 

[Saj]

Babar Azam having a terrible T20 World Cup so far:

0 v India
4 v Zimbabwe
4 v Netherlands

 

[Hitman]

What a horrible way to get dismissed today!

 

[ZafarKhan2022]

Just embarrassing stuff from Bobby today. Struggling for a long time. Needs to step away from the sport for a while.

 

[GreenBee]

His whole career and stats are all about playing every single match against every single minnow or 3rd string attack, piling records. These 3 matches really don't mean a lot, anyone can have a bad period, but Babar was always ultra overrated.

 

[daytrader]

And Babar's poor form and luck continues at the T20WC. Run out today
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[SpiritOf1903]

Believes his own hype. Rarely delivers on biggest stage

 

[Shafi]

Nothing surprise. Don't thing form is an issue for Babar. No team is playing their C/D team so its not easy to perform with limited abilities.

 

[Shafi]

His whole career and stats are all about playing every single match against every single minnow or 3rd string attack, piling records. These 3 matches really don't mean a lot, anyone can have a bad period, but Babar was always ultra overrated.

Exactly!!! Babar is not that really good to start with.

 

[Xoib]

Nothing surprise. Don't thing form is an issue for Babar. No team is playing their C/D team so its not easy to perform with limited abilities.

Yes Holland and Zimbabwe are the barometer of quality sides. Hes just in a rut.

 

[heddie19]

Nothing surprise. Don't thing form is an issue for Babar. No team is playing their C/D team so its not easy to perform with limited abilities.

Yep too bad, he couldn't score against mighty netherlands and zimbabwe. Had he scored, you would have been the first one to call him 'minnow basher'

Hypocrisy ki bhi seema hoti hai

 

[The_KING]

He is extremely overrated. He isn't better than Inzi, Yousuf, Maindad. He averages better than them because of the era he is playing in. Put them in the current era and they would average 48+ in each format and put Babar in their era and he would average less than 40+ in each format. Extremely overrated batsman.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Babar's LOI stats are extremely inflated due to flat pitches since 2013 across the globe. In tests it's more accurate, and he's no ATG

David Warner is a better batsman than Babar in every single format