[VIDEOS] Jofra Chioke Archer discussion thread

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[MenInG]

It took Jofra Archer just deliveries to take his first wicket on his return from injury in SAT20

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[MenInG]

Jofra Archer took three wickets as the England bowler made an impressive return to competitive cricket after 17 months out with injury.

Archer struck with his third ball and was later on a hat-trick as he took 3-27 for MI Cape Town in the first match of South Africa's new Twenty20 league.

The 27-year-old, clocked at speeds over 90mph, had not played since July 2021 because of back and elbow injures.

He helped his side comfortably beat Paarl Royals by eight wickets.

BBC

 

[Robert]

A lot of the top quicks had big fitness issues to overcome - Lillee, Imran, Marshall - so Archer is in good company.

I hope he can kick on now. Would be great seeing him bowl with Robbo and Woody. Stokes will treat him better than Root did.

 

[MenInG]

Jofra Archer is relieved to be back playing rather than worrying about his body breaking down again as the fast bowler prepares for his first England appearance in nearly two years.

Archer's most recent international outing was in March 2021, with last year's comeback shelved due to a stress fracture in the lower back, having overcome elbow trouble that necessitated two operations.

While estimating he is at "about 80 per cent" in his recovery, Archer returned to competitive action this month and now seems set to feature for England, who play three ODIs against South Africa in the next week.

He will do so still riding high from playing cricket in South Africa's newly-created T20 league, having made five appearances for MI Cape Town with thoughts of injuries far from his mind.

"It's just been good to play cricket and actually not have to worry about if my body's going to give way," Archer said.

"I think that was the most important tick for me so far. Playing cricket again for the first time a few weeks ago, I'm still riding off that wave of emotions right now.

"I'm still a bit stiff and trying to take some of the rust away. I'd probably say I'm about 80 per cent. Just some fine-tuning now, just more discipline than actual cricket stuff.

"I know whenever I'm fully fit, I don't think there's much that can stop me, it's just a matter of when that was going to be."

Archer, so instrumental in England's 2019 World Cup triumph and in the drawn Ashes series that followed later that summer, insisted he remained upbeat despite long spells of rehabilitation.

He has spent large spells on the mend in Barbados, where he was born, and has had plenty of company with his six dogs - Sheba, a French Mastiff, plus American Bullies Ace, Onyx, Ghost, Nova and Luna.

"I went a bit crazy probably a month after I got back to Barbados," he said. "I got about five dogs in the space of four weeks. The routine kept me going - shovelling lots of poo and feeding lots of dogs!

"There's no reason to look back. I've done my time and I'm here now. That's the most important thing.

"To be honest, I had the best time being injured, I had stuff to keep me going - my friends, my family, the gym. I'm not upset at all, I don't think I wasted any days as well when I was injured. I'm happy."

Archer is unlikely to play in all three matches against South Africa in a series that starts in Bloemfontein on Friday, with England set to rotate their options in a bid to avoid piling on players' workloads.

In an Ashes and 50-over World Cup year, keeping Archer fit will be imperative for England.

Asked what excites him more out of England's twin challenges in 2023, Archer replied: "Hopefully it can be a repeat of 2019. We've got again a 50-over World Cup and an Ashes in the same year so more of the same, please."

SKY

 

[MenInG]

Bit expensive on his first outing so far - lets see if he can recover.

 

[Robert]

Only bowling mid-eighties, dropping short and getting whacked.

 

[Double Trouble]

Looked out of sorts 2 criminal no balls given. Was rusty in the SA20 as well hope this is due match fitness as fantastic bowler when on song.

Or is he no longer the same bowler a bit like Waqar Younis after injury.

 

[Forum363]

Looked out of sorts 2 criminal no balls given. Was rusty in the SA20 as well hope this is due match fitness as fantastic bowler when on song.

Or is he no longer the same bowler a bit like Waqar Younis after injury.

Except Waqar was a great bowler before injury.

Archer was never really that good. He had a brief purple patch before batters worked him out. He just got extra hyped because he was lucky enough to be in the English team when they won the World Cup due to Stokes’ superhuman performance.

He does have a good bouncer though. He should sort out his terrible attitude and look to emulate Neil Wagner if can manage it.

 

[MenInG]

1/81 in 10 overs for Archer on his return and nothing much with the bat also

 

[Forum363]

1/81 in 10 overs for Archer on his return and nothing much with the bat also

Cost England the match today. Not the first or last time that happens.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is he still the best bowler in the world?

 

[Technics 1210]

Jofra is without doubt not just an overrated bowler, who got lucky, but is frankly a token inclusion.

Now that he is back with England, give it a few matches and we will no doubt be reading about his tweets, throwing his toys out his pram, and as a bonus, some comment on racism.

His attitude and insecurity sum him up.

 

[Mean&Green]

Mamoons favourites always get smashed and get made a joke out of nothing new. Always said was so overrated and absolutely nothing special. He proved it not only today but every team has smashed him including Pakistan that’s how bad this guy is. Some posters defence here for this guy is he won his country the World Cup first of all he didn’t make them win anything the World Cup was tied and New Zealand were robbed.

 

[MenInG]

Back to the drawing board for Archer

Dropped after first game. Clearly not ready for a comeback.

 

[Saj]

Looks sharper today.

Speeds are up.

3 wickets so far.

 

[Mamoon]

A fit Archer is the best fast bowler in the world. He is as good as Clive Lloyd’s quartet.

It is wonderful to see him return and he will achieve great things over the next few years if he stays fit.

 

[Firebat]

Clinical from Jofra today, finishes off South Africa with 6/40.

 

[Firebat]

Nasser Hussain: Jofra Archer has effortless grace to his bowling

Sky Sports Cricket expert and former England captain Nasser Hussain on Jofra Archer...

"Bowling fast is not easy and he's got that Michael Holding effortless grace.

"Everything is perfect, in line - he's just a graceful fast bowler and it's so good to see him back in international cricket."

Atherton: A wonderful day for Archer

Sky Sports Cricket expert and former England Mike Atherton on Jofra Archer...

"That was a wonderful day for him and he proved his value because South Africa suddenly had a bit of a charge on...Buttler brought him back to pick up wickets, and that's what he does.

"You need wicket-takers [in 50-over cricket] and England have got those in Archer and Rashid."

 

[Firebat]

6/40 is Archer's best ever figures in ODIs, and the 3rd best by any England bowler.

 

[Mamoon]

Cost England the match today. Not the first or last time that happens.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is he still the best bowler in the world?

Cry more.

Archer is sensational.

 

[Saj]

Superb today.

This guy isn't just about bowling fast, he's a smart bowler who knows exactly what he's doing.

Good at reading opposition batters and the match situation.

 

[shaz619]

Cry more.

Archer is sensational.

He won England a WC yet his race is bought into everything and his first game after a comeback from injury is heavily scrutinised, I really do wonder why, sure I get some of the criticisms but there are many mentally weak individuals who need to have a word with themselves. Great performance today, hopefully we steadily build him back up for the WC in India

 

[Robert]

A fit Archer is the best fast bowler in the world. He is as good as Clive Lloyd’s quartet.

They could sustain their pace all day throughout a test match. Archer gives you two fast spells then becomes a medium pacer for the rest of the match.

Good ODI bowler though.

 

[Forum363]

Cry more.

Archer is sensational.

Finally after years he has done something for you to comment. Fluke performance.

I still see you’re hiding about your comment about Stokes lol.

 

[TheSultan]

Good effort by Archer, I’m a fan of fast bowling so good to see another one in the mix. Still way off his quickest.

No need for any Bhangra yet, but good effort

 

[TheSultan]

They could sustain their pace all day throughout a test match. Archer gives you two fast spells then becomes a medium pacer for the rest of the match.

Good ODI bowler though.

Very good point. Let’s not get in to Clive’s multiple quartets. Archer would be pushed to make it through a single series. He might have made the fringes of the team like Winston Davis when others were injured.

 

[Robert]

Very good point. Let’s not get in to Clive’s multiple quartets. Archer would be pushed to make it through a single series. He might have made the fringes of the team like Winston Davis when others were injured.

Sure, or Wayne Daniel, who would have played eighty tests for England.

 

[Forum363]

He won England a WC yet his race is bought into everything and his first game after a comeback from injury is heavily scrutinised, I really do wonder why, sure I get some of the criticisms but there are many mentally weak individuals who need to have a word with themselves. Great performance today, hopefully we steadily build him back up for the WC in India

Who brought up his race?

He’s the most over hyped player in world cricket just because he was lucky enough to be playing for England.

What’s often brought up is his terrible attitude and disregard for rules.

 

[MenInG]

Jofra Archer joined a special club yesterday - Four bowlers now have six wicket hauls for England in men's ODIs

 

[Mamoon]

They could sustain their pace all day throughout a test match. Archer gives you two fast spells then becomes a medium pacer for the rest of the match.

Good ODI bowler though.

Archer was over-bowled. He is capable of sustaining his speed throughout a Test match provided that he is handled with care.

Contemporary fast bowler have a tougher schedule. There is too much cricket and too much traveling. It is not easy to maintain the intensity.

 

[Mamoon]

Finally after years he has done something for you to comment. Fluke performance.

I still see you’re hiding about your comment about Stokes lol.

As I said, you can keep whining and crying. ECB knows how important Archer is to them.

He is absolutely crucial for them in ODIs and his absence is one of the main reasons why they have struggled in the format over the last couple of years.

They also need him in Tests. The only format where they can cope without him in the long run is T20Is, but apart from Wood, most of their other white ball pacers are not good enough for 10 overs of ODI cricket.

Archer is not lucky to play for England; England is lucky that he plays for them now. They would not have won the World Cup without him in 2019 and they have no chance of defending their title this year if he is not around.

 

[BDfanforever]

As I said, you can keep whining and crying. ECB knows how important Archer is to them.

He is absolutely crucial for them in ODIs and his absence is one of the main reasons why they have struggled in the format over the last couple of years.

They also need him in Tests. The only format where they can cope without him in the long run is T20Is, but apart from Wood, most of their other white ball pacers are not good enough for 10 overs of ODI cricket.

Archer is not lucky to play for England; England is lucky that he plays for them now. They would not have won the World Cup without him in 2019 and they have no chance of defending their title this year if he is not around.

They also had Morgan who is technically Irish and was vital for Eng ODI success.

 

[jnaveen1980]

His presence makes ENgland much stronger.

 

[Forum363]

Archer was over-bowled. He is capable of sustaining his speed throughout a Test match provided that he is handled with care.

Contemporary fast bowler have a tougher schedule. There is too much cricket and too much traveling. It is not easy to maintain the intensity.

Too much travelling. That's why he broke covid regulations, risked millions of pounds, acted like the victim when required to isolate.

And thats why he breaks down constantly compared to bowlers who bowl faster and for prolonged period of time over different formats like Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins, Rabada, Wood, Bumrah, Shaheen.

Lets see how far 'effortless action' takes him this time before he collapses in a heap.

 

[Mamoon]

They also had Morgan who is technically Irish and was vital for Eng ODI success.

Maybe as captain but not as a batsman. Brook took his spot and he is a far better batsman.

 

[TheSultan]

Jofra Archer joined a special club yesterday - Four bowlers now have six wicket hauls for England in men's ODIs

Goes to show anyone can fluke a 6fer! Collingwood! Archer is in great company there!

 

[Robert]

Archer was over-bowled. He is capable of sustaining his speed throughout a Test match provided that he is handled with care.

Fair point. Root burned him out. Stokes is a bowler so may handle him better. As he has Wood. Give the hard yards to Robinson.

 

[Mamoon]

Goes to show anyone can fluke a 6fer! Collingwood! Archer is in great company there!

Wasim Akram would disagree, although he might agree that anyone can fluke a 250 in Test cricket.

 

[TheSultan]

Wasim Akram would disagree, although he might agree that anyone can fluke a 250 in Test cricket.

It most certainly was a fluke and wasim I don’t think is actually bothered - he jokes about that innings a lot

 

[Technics 1210]

) Burnout in your early 20s.

Test pace bowlers of the past would bowl more overs that JC in a Test match, maintain consistency and intensity, and never complain of being burned out. Tired and exhausted yes, but not burnt out!

The born of today, honestly. Lets handle the young players with kid gloves.

 

[Forum363]

) Burnout in your early 20s.

Test pace bowlers of the past would bowl more overs that JC in a Test match, maintain consistency and intensity, and never complain of being burned out. Tired and exhausted yes, but not burnt out!

The born of today, honestly. Lets handle the young players with kid gloves.

You see he has an ‘effortless action’ so he gets burnt out easier … [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] logic lol

 

[shaz619]

Who brought up his race?

He’s the most over hyped player in world cricket just because he was lucky enough to be playing for England.

What’s often brought up is his terrible attitude and disregard for rules.

England are fortunate he adds to their resources, they went out of their way to have him in the XI. He has had a good start to a relatively young career and there is room to get better and build further, I don’t understand the criticism, he’s making a comeback now after injury which is never easy for any fast bowler but hopefully he is ready for the WC and possibly the Ashes

 

[Robert]

You see he has an ‘effortless action’ so he gets burnt out easier … [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] logic lol

Lillee, Imran and Marshall all picked up career-threatening injuries in their careers.

Lillee had one of the smoothest actions ever too,

Not that I am putting Archer in the same bracket as that illustrious trio: merely that some top men have had to come back from physical trauma on the way to greatness.

 

[Forum363]

England are fortunate he adds to their resources, they went out of their way to have him in the XI. He has had a good start to a relatively young career and there is room to get better and build further, I don’t understand the criticism, he’s making a comeback now after injury which is never easy for any fast bowler but hopefully he is ready for the WC and possibly the Ashes

They went out of their way to add him in the team is often used to talk up Archer’s greatness.

England are a champion poaching side. Probably a link to their colonial mindset and British Empire legacy. They have always done everything they can to get players from wherever possible. Some of them work great like Morgan while others fizzle out.

A rule was changed for Archer, but he is just lucky that he happened to slot into a winning side.

The criticism is that he’s talked about in the same breadth as the best bowlers in the world today and legends of the past. Whereas he is just a glorified Wagner at best.

Ajantha Mendis had a better start to his career yet he wasn’t called the best in the world.

 

[Technics 1210]

You see he has an ‘effortless action’ so he gets burnt out easier … [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] logic lol

His 'effortless' action is utterly meaningless without intention and attitude.

It is clear JA is not interested in Test cricket, but only making a quick buck in the shortest form of the game. Funny how his injury didn't stop him from playing in T20 leagues.

Since he fluked a WC medal in ODI, he most likely believes he has achieved all that he needs in the ODI format.

As for Tests, he is simply not interested - more work for less money! The bowling greats of the past may have injured themselves in their Test careers, but this only inspired them to aim higher to achieve more for their country for a lot less pay! - yet in the case of JA, he is burned out after a few Test series! Pathetic excuse, and lets face it, JC doesn't even consider England as his home nation. He blagged a spot in the England ODI team, fluked a WC win, and is now riding on the coat-tails of that WC.

JC is not fit to be an England test bowler let alone a role model for children.

 

[Robert]

England are a champion poaching side. Probably a link to their colonial mindset and British Empire legacy. They have always done everything they can to get players from wherever possible. Some of them work great like Morgan while others fizzle out.

A rule was changed for Archer, but he is just lucky that he happened to slot into a winning side.

The ECB rule on qualification was actually stiffer than the ICC rule, and was relaxed to bring ECB in line with ICC.

If all these players from around the world want to come an play for England, surely that just means that UK is a good place to live? Or that foreign players want to better themselves?

 

[HitWicket]

The ECB rule on qualification was actually stiffer than the ICC rule, and was relaxed to bring ECB in line with ICC.

If all these players from around the world want to come an play for England, surely that just means that UK is a good place to live? Or that foreign players want to better themselves?

The ECB qualification rules are actually still significantly stricter than the ICC regulations. Archer still had to do 3 years residency to play for England, if he had the same links to any other country in the world he'd have been eligible to play for them instantly.

 

[Forum363]

The ECB rule on qualification was actually stiffer than the ICC rule, and was relaxed to bring ECB in line with ICC.

If all these players from around the world want to come an play for England, surely that just means that UK is a good place to live? Or that foreign players want to better themselves?

Archer chose to play for England because they are considered the founders of cricket, and have great influence. Every major country plays cricket because they were former colonies. He grew up speaking English.

England has a history of taking resources from around the world. It does not make archer some ATG talent, just something that England needed at the time.

Like Ed Joyce when he was needed. Didnt make him a great player.

 

[Forum363]

His 'effortless' action is utterly meaningless without intention and attitude.

It is clear JA is not interested in Test cricket, but only making a quick buck in the shortest form of the game. Funny how his injury didn't stop him from playing in T20 leagues.

Since he fluked a WC medal in ODI, he most likely believes he has achieved all that he needs in the ODI format.

As for Tests, he is simply not interested - more work for less money! The bowling greats of the past may have injured themselves in their Test careers, but this only inspired them to aim higher to achieve more for their country for a lot less pay! - yet in the case of JA, he is burned out after a few Test series! Pathetic excuse, and lets face it, JC doesn't even consider England as his home nation. He blagged a spot in the England ODI team, fluked a WC win, and is now riding on the coat-tails of that WC.

JC is not fit to be an England test bowler let alone a role model for children.

He really does act like a superstar.

I think people forget that when the world was in the midst of the Covid pandemic, huge sporting events were being cancelled on an unprecedented scale, and the ECB - WICB went through incredibly difficulty to organise the series, followed by the Pak series after, Archer broke regulations and went home. Then he came back to the squad, didn't tell anyone, interacted with other players putting his whole team and 'tens of millions' (according to Ashley Giles who was the Director) of pounds at risk. He just accidentally let slip to someone during training because he clearly lacks intelligence and then was barely punished because he's put on some pedestal.

A month later he would be complaining about getting called out for bowling slower than a teenage, much shorter, skinner kid called Naseem Shah. And tweeting in the middle of a test match to reply to criticism of him.

 

[Technics 1210]

He really does act like a superstar.

I think people forget that when the world was in the midst of the Covid pandemic, huge sporting events were being cancelled on an unprecedented scale, and the ECB - WICB went through incredibly difficulty to organise the series, followed by the Pak series after, Archer broke regulations and went home. Then he came back to the squad, didn't tell anyone, interacted with other players putting his whole team and 'tens of millions' (according to Ashley Giles who was the Director) of pounds at risk. He just accidentally let slip to someone during training because he clearly lacks intelligence and then was barely punished because he's put on some pedestal.

A month later he would be complaining about getting called out for bowling slower than a teenage, much shorter, skinner kid called Naseem Shah. And tweeting in the middle of a test match to reply to criticism of him.

Indeed, and he thinks he's some OG with those gold chains.

On top of this, like you say, he believes he is immune from criticism for obvious reasons.

I am surprised the ECB put up with his attitude.

 

[shaz619]

They went out of their way to add him in the team is often used to talk up Archer’s greatness.

England are a champion poaching side. Probably a link to their colonial mindset and British Empire legacy. They have always done everything they can to get players from wherever possible. Some of them work great like Morgan while others fizzle out.

A rule was changed for Archer, but he is just lucky that he happened to slot into a winning side.

The criticism is that he’s talked about in the same breadth as the best bowlers in the world today and legends of the past. Whereas he is just a glorified Wagner at best.

Ajantha Mendis had a better start to his career yet he wasn’t called the best in the world.

If it’s mentioned that he is fortunate to be in the team and what not then there is reason to highlight how he came to play for England to begin with. Greatness etc is a big word, I don’t think those who overhype him are a good enough excuse to criticise blindly or resort to cheap personal attacks whilst overlooking that he is a valued member of the team for England who has a good platform to build on, it’s not Archer’s fault he did well in the World Cup but off-course there is more to achieve and improve beyond that.

 

[HitWicket]

England are a champion poaching side. Probably a link to their colonial mindset and British Empire legacy. They have always done everything they can to get players from wherever possible.

These kind of comments always baffle me, it's almost as if some people would prefer the ECB to racially discriminate and not select the best available players...

 

[Robert]

England has a history of taking resources from around the world. It does not make archer some ATG talent, just something that England needed at the time.

Seems like a false equivalence. I can’t see how an Empire that ended decades ago has any relevance to the ECB’s employment policy.

 

[Ab Fan]

Cummins, Bumrah and Rabada are top 3 of this generation.

Archer most likely will fall short. Robinson is a better candidate for England.

 

[Forum363]

Cummins, Bumrah and Rabada are top 3 of this generation.

Archer most likely will fall short. Robinson is a better candidate for England.

English bowlers who are better than Archer:

Wood
Robinson
Topley
Woakes
Curran
Mahmood

 

[Robert]

English bowlers who are better than Archer:

Wood
Robinson
Topley
Woakes
Curran
Mahmood

I concur about Robinson. He’s an all-conditions test match opening bowler.

Maybe Wood too.

Woakes is a test bowler at home but innocuous overseas.

Curran isn’t test class. He’s a good ODI death bowler.

Mahmood - jury’s out. He’s probably fourth in the quick bowler pecking order behind Wood, Archer, and Stone.

 

[Forum363]

I concur about Robinson. He’s an all-conditions test match opening bowler.

Maybe Wood too.

Woakes is a test bowler at home but innocuous overseas.

Curran isn’t test class. He’s a good ODI death bowler.

Mahmood - jury’s out. He’s probably fourth in the quick bowler pecking order behind Wood, Archer, and Stone.

Archer averages 46 away from home so its not like he is brilliant overseas. If the sample size is small, that's his problem. He shouldn't be considered among the best then. Woakes at least averages 22 at home vs 26 for Archer. Not to mention Woakes is a useful lower order bat in limited over cricket.

Curran with his height and pace should be getting smashed but he has continued to improve since his debut. Given the amount of swing he gets and the upward trajectory, its a no brainer that he will do better in tests. What weapons does archer have other than a good bouncer?

Mahmood and archer are both on par, as they are living on potential.

 

[Robert]

Archer averages 46 away from home so its not like he is brilliant overseas. If the sample size is small, that's his problem. He shouldn't be considered among the best then. Woakes at least averages 22 at home vs 26 for Archer. Not to mention Woakes is a useful lower order bat in limited over cricket.

Curran with his height and pace should be getting smashed but he has continued to improve since his debut. Given the amount of swing he gets and the upward trajectory, its a no brainer that he will do better in tests. What weapons does archer have other than a good bouncer?

Mahmood and archer are both on par, as they are living on potential.

I would have Robinson, Woakes and one of Wood / Archer / Stone in England. Drop Woakes and bring in a second quick in SA, Aus & NZ.

 

[MenInG]

As the five-time IPL champions, Mumbai Indians prepare for the upcoming edition of the Indian Premier League, they took a breath of relief as English star pacer Jofra Archer finally joined the camp ahead of the IPL 2023.

 

[MenInG]

Fast bowler Jofra Archer is unlikely to play any red-ball cricket before the Ashes series starts in June, according to Sussex head coach Paul Farbrace.

The 27-year-old is contracted to Mumbai Indians for the Indian Premier League, which begins on Friday and culminates in the final on 28 May.

England face Australia in the first Ashes Test at Edgbaston on 16 June.

"I think all things being equal, he will go straight into the Ashes off the back of the IPL," Farbrace said.

'No England call for Bairstow to keep wicket'
There is a possibility that Archer could feature in England's Test against Ireland at Lord's, which begins on 1 June, but his availability will depend on Mumbai Indians' progress in the IPL.

He returned to the England white-ball squad in late January following 17 months on the sidelines with an elbow injury and a stress fracture in his back.

Archer has taken 42 wickets at an average of 31.04 in his 13 Tests for England, but his most recent Test appearance was in the 10-wicket defeat by India in Ahmedabad in February 2021.

His last first-class game was for Sussex against Kent in May 2021.

Fellow England Test players Joe Root, captain Ben Stokes, Sam Curran, Liam Livingstone and Harry Brook are also involved in the IPL.

"The England plan for Jofra is he'll go and play in the IPL," Farbrace told BBC Radio Sussex.

"I think their plan is that between IPL games he'll then bowl some longer spells to get his overs up and make sure that he is match-ready.

"That's the nature of international franchise cricket these days. I know there'll be a lot of people saying 'he should play at least two four-day games to be ready for a Test match', but the preparation and the work that the medical teams do around these players is exceptional."

'England are not daft'

Sussex have six fixtures in Division Two of the County Championship before the Ashes with their T20 Blast campaign starting on 26 May. Australia batter Steve Smith will join for a three-game County Championship stint in May.

However, given Archer's commitments in the IPL, the right-arm paceman will not be in action for his county before England attempt to reclaim the Ashes urn for the first time since 2015.

"We're really lucky here at Sussex. I think we have got an unbelievable medical set-up with some fantastic professionals," former England assistant coach Farbrace said.

"That's something that allows players like Jofra to move from T20 cricket to Test match cricket and be ready and prepared to go.

"England are not daft. They know that keeping the likes of Jofra fit for the Ashes will be really important to win the Ashes.

"They are saying 'how can we make sure that we get Jofra prepared to play the Ashes and be the best version he can be?' They've got a lot of good people around that squad who we need to trust and allow them to do their job.

"From a Sussex point of view we should be saying that he needs to play at least four Championship games otherwise he's not going to be ready - but that's not how it works.

"He is a centrally contracted player and we want him to be at this club for many years to come and we want him to be a big part of the future."

BBC

 

[MenInG]

Archer taken to the cleaners by Virat Kohli ...

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[MenInG]

Jofra Archer has expressed his anger at a report saying he had left the Indian Premier League this month to have surgery on his troublesome right elbow in Belgium.

The England pace bowler featured in the Mumbai Indians' season-opener on April 2 but then missed their next four matches before returning to action on Saturday.

The PA news agency reported that Archer flew to Belgium to see his specialist during a near three-week absence for Mumbai, and according to The Telegraph he had minor surgery before going back to India.

But Archer responded to the report suggesting he had undergone an operation with a post on Twitter that read: "Putting out an article without knowing the facts & without my consent is crazy.

"Who ever the reporter is shame on you, an already worrying and troubling time for a player and you exploit it for your personal gain, it's people like you that are the problem."

SKY

 

[Forum363]

Jofra Archer has expressed his anger at a report saying he had left the Indian Premier League this month to have surgery on his troublesome right elbow in Belgium.

The England pace bowler featured in the Mumbai Indians' season-opener on April 2 but then missed their next four matches before returning to action on Saturday.

The PA news agency reported that Archer flew to Belgium to see his specialist during a near three-week absence for Mumbai, and according to The Telegraph he had minor surgery before going back to India.

But Archer responded to the report suggesting he had undergone an operation with a post on Twitter that read: "Putting out an article without knowing the facts & without my consent is crazy.

"Who ever the reporter is shame on you, an already worrying and troubling time for a player and you exploit it for your personal gain, it's people like you that are the problem."

SKY

Look at that stinking attitude again.

He can be bitter all he wants. Rubbish overrated player who was lucky to be part of an England World Cup winning team so got overhyped to the moon.

England should make him pay back their investment and rule changes for him given how much he gets injured and his antics.

 

[Forum363]

Injury after injury despite his ‘effortless’ action. The fans that overrated him are nowhere to be seen after all this humiliation.

 

[MenInG]

Archer injuries saga continues.

Why England continue to risk their top bowler for IPL is beyond me.

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IPL MEDIA ADVISORY

May 09, 2023

Chris Jordan replaces injured Jofra Archer at Mumbai Indians

Mumbai Indians (MI) on Tuesday named Chris Jordan as a replacement for the injured Jofra Archer for the remainder of the TATA Indian Premier League (IPL) 2023

Jordan, who made his IPL debut in 2016, has so far played 28 IPL matches and has 27 wickets against his name.

The speedster has represented England in 87 T20Is and has scalped 96 T20I wickets.

Jordan joins MI for INR 2 Crore.

 

[MenInG]

The England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB) can confirm that fast bowler Jofra Archer will return from the Indian Premier League with immediate effect.

Archer has been recovering from right elbow surgery. However, pushing through the discomfort whilst recently playing, hoping it will settle, has proven challenging. Therefore, it has been agreed for him to return to the UK for a period of rest and rehabilitation to give him the best opportunity for a full recovery.

The ECB would like to thank the Mumbai Indians for their support and cooperation during this time.

Archer will return to the UK this week and will work on his rehab with the ECB medical department and Sussex County Cricket Club, respectively.

 

[Saj]

I can't believe he actually went to the IPL when he was clearly not ready for the tournament.

 

[Forum363]

I can't believe he actually went to the IPL when he was clearly not ready for the tournament.

He’s a greedy entitled cricketer living on reputation of a fluke win by England in the World Cup.

He’s going to milk as many series as he can before everyone realised he’s average and 2019 summer was an anomaly.

 

[Technics 1210]

He’s a greedy entitled cricketer living on reputation of a fluke win by England in the World Cup.

He’s going to milk as many series as he can before everyone realised he’s average and 2019 summer was an anomaly.

Spot on.

Is his Twitter account still active? It was a proper EastEnders Christmas special feed. Pure soap opera.

 

[MenInG]

Sussex fast bowler Jofra Archer has been ruled out for the rest of the summer after recent scans revealed he has sustained a recurrence of a stress fracture to his right elbow. He will now spend time with the England and Sussex medical teams, who will work on his injury management.

 

[MenInG]

If he was so unfit - why not stay at home and build himself for the Ashes?

Instead

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Judging by recent reports the ashes arent his priority.

They are syaing Mumbai Indians are offering him a year long contract and the ECB will need to ask their permisison before selecting him.

 

[Forum363]

Sussex fast bowler Jofra Archer has been ruled out for the rest of the summer after recent scans revealed he has sustained a recurrence of a stress fracture to his right elbow. He will now spend time with the England and Sussex medical teams, who will work on his injury management.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ‘effortless action’.

Joke of a cricketer.

 

[HitWicket]

Judging by recent reports the ashes arent his priority.

They are syaing Mumbai Indians are offering him a year long contract and the ECB will need to ask their permisison before selecting him.

Little chance this ever happens. Under the current system even if MI give him a year round contract they'd still need the ECBs permission for him to play. The BCCI would have to push to change that system which it isn't in their interest to do.

 

[Technics 1210]

Serves him right. He opted to play in the IPL, knowing the Ashes series was on in the summer and he could jeopardize his role with injury.

He is not interested in playing for England, he is simply a mercenary player.

England should revoke his central contract and find better bowlers, which is easily done.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56803;️ "He'll be absolutely distraught... Every cricketer wants to play in The Ashes!"<br><br>Michael Atherton discusses the extent of Jofra Archer's elbow injury... &#55356;&#57295;&#55358;&#56597; <a href="https://t.co/obcrVxS8eK">pic.twitter.com/obcrVxS8eK</a></p>— Sky Sports Cricket (@SkyCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyCricket/status/1658431433747177473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2023</a></blockquote>
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[Snowflake]

Who in their right mind would go to play a lengthy oversees domestic T20 tournament right after a long injury break?

Only someone who is looking for a big payday and has zero aspirations to play for their national side.

Archer has always had a stinking attitude which scream "I'm too good for this ****". No sympathies for someone who makes an absolutely senseless decision like this.

 

[Saj]

Money first ahead of his career.

Very poor decision to go to the IPL and I can't believe the ECB allowed this to happen.

 

[MenInG]

Money first ahead of his career.

Very poor decision to go to the IPL and I can't believe the ECB allowed this to happen.

I wonder if favours involved - how else could one explain this?

I am also shocked that some of the top names in English cricket are not asking the same.

 

[ssuhaide]

England have dodged a bullet with this news. Jofra is super fragile and only fit to bowl a few overs here and there definately not going to have the stamina or fitness to play test cricket.