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[VIDEOS] Jofra Chioke Archer discussion thread

The suggestion from some on here that either:

a) Playing no cricket at all and suddenly being expected to be ready for a test match

or

b) bowling plenty of overs in the county championship

would've been safer preparation for playing in the Ashes compared to the 20 overs he bowled in the IPL is bizarre.
 
HitWicket said:
The suggestion from some on here that either:

a) Playing no cricket at all and suddenly being expected to be ready for a test match

or

b) bowling plenty of overs in the county championship

would've been safer preparation for playing in the Ashes compared to the 20 overs he bowled in the IPL is bizarre.
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Bordering on the criminal in my view. Made a mockery of England cricket.
 
MenInG said:
Bordering on the criminal in my view. Made a mockery of England cricket.
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You seem to have misunderstood me, I'm calling your point of view bizarre. Suggesting that either option a or b above would've been less risky makes little sense.
 
HitWicket said:
You seem to have misunderstood me, I'm calling your point of view bizarre. Suggesting that either option a or b above would've been less risky makes little sense.
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OK!

My point is resting and sorting his injury so that he could play for his country would have been better instead of rushing into play T20s for some good $$$s

England have invested a lot in this guy, now he needs to pay back and he's not doing a great job of it.
 
MenInG said:
OK!

My point is resting and sorting his injury so that he could play for his country would have been better instead of rushing into play T20s for some good $$$s

England have invested a lot in this guy, now he needs to pay back and he's not doing a great job of it.
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He's been back from injury and playing for the last 5 months. If the aim was to play in the Ashes then not playing any cricket in the run up to the series, or bowling a significant amount more overs than he has been in the county championship are far more risky than bowling 20 overs in the IPL over the space of a month.
 
Sharing his views about Archer's injury setback amid the IPL 2023, Pietersen observed that the recurrence of a stress fracture might end his journey with English cricket. "I'm gutted for Jofra. Absolutely gutted. I think this will probably end his journey with English cricket. I know that there are reports around a franchise contract, and that would be the smartest thing for him to do now. Take six months to recover, select a few tournaments to play, and bowl at the speed of light for a few months of the year. He would earn good money and still have a career in the game," Pietersen wrote in his blog.

Pietersen also expressed his reservations about Archer playing the longest format of the game for England. The 28-year-old has played 21 One Day Internationals (ODIs) and 13 Test matches for England. "I think the longer form of the game has passed him by. I think English cricket has probably passed him by. It's no fault of his own, he's just injury prone. As much as he would love to play for England, because I know that's his dream, it's probably finished. He should now just go and cash in as much as he can in franchise cricket. But first of all, get himself fit," Pietersen added.

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He needs to either take that Mumbai Indians deal or retire. This is just a joke at this point. How can a fast-bowler be this injury-prone? He hasn't even played any serious cricket in years.

He has to be the most overrated and overhyped bowler to play professional cricket in years. People were talking him up before he was even eligible to play for England. And what has he really even done in 4 years?

When people will talk about England's World Cup win they will either talk about the contentious final or Morgan's vision that made their ODI transformation possible. When people talk about his " fiery Ashes spell" where he "terrorised" Steve Smith, they will talk about how he never actually dismissed Smith.

Can we please just move on from him already? It amazes me how he makes this many headlines despite doing absolutely nothing of note in the last 3 years.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
He needs to either take that Mumbai Indians deal or retire. This is just a joke at this point. How can a fast-bowler be this injury-prone? He hasn't even played any serious cricket in years.

He has to be the most overrated and overhyped bowler to play professional cricket in years. People were talking him up before he was even eligible to play for England. And what has he really even done in 4 years?

When people will talk about England's World Cup win they will either talk about the contentious final or Morgan's vision that made their ODI transformation possible. When people talk about his " fiery Ashes spell" where he "terrorised" Steve Smith, they will talk about how he never actually dismissed Smith.

Can we please just move on from him already? It amazes me how he makes this many headlines despite doing absolutely nothing of note in the last 3 years.
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It’s unfortunate, a major talent and it’s just sport. These things happen, I hope he can come back and doesn’t go the Simon Jones way, would be better for cricket. Going by my own experiences over here, his WC efforts wont be forgotten, simply due to how he receives attention from casuals. But if he does retire, that’s what he will be remembered for and nothing beyond that, which is a shame given the potential
 
Time to move on. He's not even that big a miss for the Ashes, people just can't stop overhyping 1 spell where he hit Smith on the helmet, in a series where the guy scored 774 runs in 7 innings. Clearly Archer didn't really have his number then.

England have enough quality pacers that can last more than a few overs.
 
Rob Key, director of men's cricket at the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB), said: "He's got another stress fracture in an elbow that's been trouble for a long time.

"I'm hoping at some point Jofra deserves a bit of luck with this, because the poor lad is pretty distraught about what's happened and it's only just happened recently.

"You just hope that luck turns for him at some point as I'm sure it will. I'm sure we will see Jofra back to his best and winning games for England, whatever the format."

Whether he has a chance of featuring in October's ODI World Cup, helping defend the title he delivered in 2019 by closing out the super over in the final, remains to be seen.

Archer's stellar abilities with the white ball, allied to his long history of fitness problems, mean there have been long-standing worries over his Test career.

Key made it clear he has no concerns around the player's desire to succeed with the red ball, but accepted it was impossible to predict how the future will now play out for him.

"Sometimes you get the feeling that the people think he's going to go down the white-ball road and he's not going to be interested in Test cricket, that there's other things on his mind that come first. That's absolutely not the case," he said.

"He is desperate to play all forms of cricket. He's been desperate to play Test cricket as well and I hope that he gets the chance to do that.

"But at the moment, all cricket's been too much for his body to cope with and we need to get past that.

"You just hope that down the line he will overcome this, that body will get robust enough to be able to deal with the rigours of everything. I wouldn't sit here now and rule anything out."

It seems fanciful to think his modest workload in the IPL has forced an injury that would not have happened had be been playing first-class cricket with Sussex, where he would have bowled more in a solitary Championship fixture.

Even so, Key promised to pore over how England managed his return to playing over recent months.

"We're going to look at every single thing we've done," he said.

"Everything we've done has been what we thought was the right thing for the player first - not actually for anyone else - to say what's the best way for him to be able to have the best career he can possibly have.

"The fact is that he's not been able to bowl more than four more overs without feeling any sort of pain so, regardless of the way that we've gone, whether it's been right or wrong, I don't think I'd change anything."

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Forum363 said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ‘effortless action’.

Joke of a cricketer.
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The only joke is your post.

Archer is a superstar. A fantastic bowler. There is no better fast bowler than a fit and firing Archer, his ceiling is huge.

It is terribly disappointing to see how his career has stalled due to injuries but he still has at least 5-6 years of cricket left in him and he will always be on England’s radar whenever he is fit to play.

PPers can talk smack all they want, but what matters is what ECB thinks of him and his stock has not fallen one bit. They will do everything they can to make sure he is back.

Anderson is 40, Broad is 36. Archer, at 28, is still their future.

Archer has lost 3-4 years of his career and it’s a shame but it is not about how long you play but about the impact you have, and Archer has already achieved more in one summer than most players do in a lifetime.

If a Pakistani bowler was fast-tracked to play a World Cup and would have played the role that Archer did in 2019, he would be immortalized forever.

Bowlers like Naseem and Rauf have been hyped to the moon and beyond even though they haven’t achieved 1% of what Archer has.
 
It is no big secret what the ECB think of Jofra now, and what the ECB especially thinks of IPL and English players who prefer IPL to pre Ashes training. The Ashes is above all English players and their desire to make a quick filthy buck in the IPL.

There is a reason why ECB is now considering revising central contracts. An ultimatum will be given to English players, if selected for the Ashes, either your country comes first (adopted country for Jofra), or the IPL - you cannot have both.

To compare Archer with Broad and Anderson is a joke. Both Jimmy and Stuart have invested their lives in Test cricket and retired from LoIs to concentrate on the Test format hence their longevity. Jofra just does not care. He got his passport, fluked a WC win, built up his stock, moaned like a child on Twitters, and is now a mercenary.

Jofra is not even remembered for the 2019 WC, unlike Wasim for 92 or Warne for 99.

ECB want to dump him, but know when they do, the woke radical left brigade will be after the ECB!
 
This is one of the problems with long term injuries unfortunately. When players do finally make a comeback, due to the extended period of rest and the reduced fitness levels there is a risk that other niggles and issues can then pop up which wouldn’t normally, and it can then quickly become a vicious cycle of absence for the player.

Jofra’s situation seems sadly reminiscent of Simon Jones at the moment. I hope that Jofra, who is still the right side of 30, can turn the corner after this latest setback has passed.

Although, the silver lining is that career high points are banked, and a subsequent run of injuries does not devalue what has gone before. The achievements of Jones in the Ashes and his key role in England beating Australia are still replayed regularly, his pearly reverse swingers, and these have not been forgotten even now; and, equally, Jofra’s contribution towards England winning the World Cup and his efforts in the Super Over will always be appreciated by England fans as well.
 
shaz619 said:
It’s unfortunate, a major talent and it’s just sport. These things happen, I hope he can come back and doesn’t go the Simon Jones way, would be better for cricket. Going by my own experiences over here, his WC efforts wont be forgotten, simply due to how he receives attention from casuals. But if he does retire, that’s what he will be remembered for and nothing beyond that, which is a shame given the potential
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I don't know man. I just don't get it. England has so many talented fast-bowlers right now. But none of them have gotten the attention that Jofra has gotten despite not playing regularly for atleast 3 years. I just don't get how you can hype a guy who has achieved so little. And always seems to be on the cusp of a new injury.
 
Star Mumbai Indians player Jofra Archer ruled out of MI's camp midway through the IPL 2023. Archer, has just played five matches for Mumbai in 2023 edition of IPL and was forced to rule out after elbow injury. MI spent 8 crore to acquire his services at the IPL 2022 auction.

Former Indian cricketer Sunil Gavaskar opened up about his views about Archer and questioned his loyalty towards his franchise. He also claimed that if he was not 100 percent fit, he should have informed the Mumbai Indians management.

"What has been Mumbai Indians experience of Jofra Archer? They took a punt on him knowing that he was injured and would be available only from this season. They paid big money for him and what has he given in return? He didn't seem 100 per cent fit and he should have informed the franchise about it. They only realised when he turned up and found that he was barely able to bowl at his usual pace. In between the tournament, he went abroad for treatment which is what his country's cricket board apparently said. So he was never fully fit, but still came over. If he was committed to the franchise, who probably pay him more than the ECB does, he should have stayed right till the end even if he wasn't going to play and show his commitment towards the franchise. Instead, he has opted to fly off back to the UK," Gavaskar wrote in his column for Mid-Day.

"A day later, a story appears that he is going to get a multi-million-pound deal with Mumbai Indians to play for their team in the various leagues in the world. This has got to be the greatest diversionary trick attempted. Mumbai Indians are not fools to sign a lame horse for any future race. Make no mistake, Mumbai Indians won't be amused at the turn of events and now that they have come back well in the tournament without his presence, he will be lucky if he gets his full fee for the IPL and if he does then he would do well to give half to his favourite charity", he further added.

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England’s key pace weapon likely to miss Cricket World Cup

It was the news every England fan feared, but it was not unexpected that Jofra Archer was left out of the squad to face New Zealand ahead of the Cricket World Cup in October.

Archer was a breakout star of the 2019 edition of the tournament, having only qualified for England in May of that year and went on to become the country’s leading wicket-taker.

He played a starring role in the final, bowling the first ever super over on that memorable day four years ago, but has not played in any competition since the Indian Premier League in spring due to an elbow stress fracture.

It was the latest in a string of injuries to have plagued the quick bowler over the last two years, and there are fears that he may not appear again in an England shirt. Luke Wright, an England selector who previously played with the fast bowler at Sussex, admitted the national side had to get it right this time with Archer.

However, of those selected, injuries have always been hovering on the horizon. Wood is often in a constant battle for fitness, and managed to play just three of England’s Ashes Test matches in the summer. While Sam Curran has previously sustained a back stress fracture, and Reece Topley missed last year’s T20 World Cup with a freak dislocated shoulder while on the field.

If one of those does go down injured, it could pave the way for Archer, who will join the squad as a travelling reserve in the case of injury towards the back end of the tournament.

But Wright was keen to play down the likelihood of Archer making an imminent return.

“Best case for Jof would really be there as a replacement if we get an injury in the back end, but that's best case scenario,” the selector said.
 
Fast bowler Jofra Archer trained with England on Tuesday, raising hopes he could still travel to the World Cup as a reserve to the frontline squad.

Archer, 28, has missed the entire home summer with a stress fracture in his right elbow.

He was not considered fit enough for a place in the 15-man World Cup squad, but could be one of three reserves.

England must finalise their party for the tournament in India in October and November by 28 September.

Archer famously bowled the super over in the thrilling 2019 final when England lifted the trophy for the first time by defeating New Zealand.

His career has been hugely hampered by injuries since then. Though he made an England comeback earlier this year on the limited-overs tours of South Africa and Bangladesh, the latest elbow injury robbed the Sussex man of the opportunity to play in the Ashes.

Archer bowled in the nets at The Oval on Tuesday as England trained before the third one-day international against New Zealand on Wednesday.

Speaking when an initial World Cup squad was announced in August, selector Luke Wright said a best-case scenario would be for Archer to travel to India as a reserve, with the potential to play a part in the second half of the tournament.

"There has got to be a duty of care with Jof," said Wright. "We know how desperate we all are to have him, but we've also got to get it right for him.

"He's been very unfortunate with these injuries, so we do have to get it right."

In 2019, Barbados-born Archer had only just qualified to play for England and his inclusion in the World Cup squad came at the expense of David Willey.

Willey has been named in the World Cup party this time around and said that Archer looks "in a good place".

"I don't know where he's at fitness wise but he's bowling good wheels out there today," said Willey.

"Everyone knows how good is he is, what he's capable of and how he can impact games. So to have him close or not far away from being fit is obviously fantastic news."

England's opening game of the World Cup is against New Zealand on 5 October.

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if Jofra Archer gets into the worldcup so it will become a devasting bowling attack of england having Mark Wood, Jofra Archer who both can bowl over 150 KPH
 
Sussex Cricket is delighted to announce that England international fast-bowler Jofra Archer has signed a contract extension with the Club.

Archer, who has been with Sussex since 2016, took 181 first-class wickets for the Club, before becoming one of England's most exciting pace-bowlers.

He made his Test debut in 2019, but it was his performances in the ICC World Cup that year that would elevate his status in cricket across the globe.

Jofra was the leading wicket-taker for England in the tournament and famously bowled the historic super-over which led to England lifting the trophy against New Zealand for the first time.

Speaking on the extension with the Club, Sussex Head Coach, Paul Farbrace said: "I am delighted that Jofra has extended his stay at Sussex and we are all really looking forward to seeing him back playing.

"He is a fantastic professional and person to have around the squad when he’s with us."

On his decision to stay at Sussex, Jofra said: "There is no place I'd rather be, it is a lovely Club with even lovelier people. GOSBTS."

Jofra is continuing his rehabilitation from a long-term injury and has recently resumed bowling under the supervision of the ECB's medical team, with a view to potentially making the World Cup squad as a reserve this winter.
 
England pacer Jofra Archer turned up for a Karnataka team during a two-day practice match against County side Sussex at the KSCA Ground in Alur, near Bengaluru. Archer, who plays County cricket for Sussex, played as a substitute for the Karnataka team filled with U-19, U-23 and senior players. For the unversed, Sussex are in Bengaluru, India for a 10-day pre-season camp. They are expected to play a couple of practice games in Bengaluru games before returning to the South Coast.

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With Sussex opting to bowl in the practice game, Archer didn't bowl on the opening day of the match. However, he turned up as a substitute player for Karnataka, taking two wickets.

Archer, who hasn't played competitive cricket for nearly 12 months, looked in good rhythm as he dismissed two of his Sussex teammates and one of them was an absolute ripper.

Archer last played competitive cricket during the Indian Premier League (IPL) last year. After missing the 2022 season, he played just five games last season, bagging two wickets.

He was released by the five-time IPL champions Mumbai Indians ahead of the auction. In IPL 2023, fans expected Archer to be at his very best and guide MI to their sixth trophy, but a recurring elbow injury interrupted his season and affected his performances.

Archer was also ruled out from the Ashes series due to his medical condition as the scans revealed a recurrence of a stress fracture to his right elbow which cut short his stint in the ongoing edition of the Indian Premier League (IPL) with the Mumbai Indians.

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Steve Harmison advises England not to rush Jofra Archer’s return. He told a news agency:

“I’d treat him like a prize racehorse. If England can keep him fit for the majority of those two series, I’d feel as though they have got a chance of winning."

“If he can play in Test matches in between and his body is holding up then everything after that is a bonus.”

“When I heard he was playing in that game in Barbados, I was over the moon, I just wish he had told (England’s managing director of men’s cricket) Rob Key first."

“If he turns up for the T20 World Cup, fantastic, if he turns up for a Test match this summer, fantastic, but the most important thing for me is about his mental health and making sure he’s in a position to play cricket without thinking, ‘In however many weeks, I’m going to be injured again’."

"I'd build Jofra Archer up to play in 10 Test matches over the next two years - five against India and five against Australia or four each."

“The more he does the bowling repetition and the muscle memory stuff under less scrutiny and less pressure, the better it will be for him coming back into top-level cricket.”

“Having the crutch of, ‘That’s the way we play, it’s Bazball’. No, Bazball is giving you the freedom to be the best version of yourself possible. You’ve still got to play the situation.”
 
Remember that Naseem v Jofra debate, now it’s happening from their hospital beds these days :yk
 
Archer is a far better bowler than Naseem can ever hope to be. His 2019 summer alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career.

But ECB should not rush Archer back in Test cricket as long as the pathetic leadership of Stokes and McCullum are at the helm.

Their rubbish Bazball nonsense doesn’t allow the bowlers enough time to rest between innings and Archer will breakdown again in no time.
 
Mamoon said:
Archer is a far better bowler than Naseem can ever hope to be. His 2019 summer alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career.

But ECB should not rush Archer back in Test cricket as long as the pathetic leadership of Stokes and McCullum are at the helm.

Their rubbish Bazball nonsense doesn’t allow the bowlers enough time to rest between innings and Archer will breakdown again in no time.
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Archer is not a fast bowler he is an online gamer.

Naseem on the other hand is actually a pacer, so there’s no comparison now.
 
Archer is neither interested i
Statpadder Inc said:
Ya, archer is a wc winner while naseem is a psl supherstaar who hasnt done anything in int cricket
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Doesnt matter.

Naseem will play more international cricket and shows way more dedication than Archer.

Even if he doesn’t turn out as a great bowler he will have enough body of work to beat the online gamer.


Also, just because someone’s team won a world cup doesn’t mean he becomes better than every other cricketer who hasn’t won one, I thought it was an obvious fact but don’t know why in PP you always need to reiterate that.

Naseem will take 300+ wkts in test cricket ,even if I add 2 years to his age he has enough time and talent to achieve that, otoh Archer will do well to take 150.

Sane goes for Odis, I can bet my bottom dollar that Naseem will be rated a better cricketer than Archer after both retire .

Lets say Naseem isn’t the ATG talent he is projected as, still he has the potential to average less than 30 and take 300+ wkts , this automatically makes him better than Archer.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Archer is not a fast bowler he is an online gamer.

Naseem on the other hand is actually a pacer, so there’s no comparison now.
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Whatever Naseem is, he has zero achievements in international cricket as of now. We will see and compare when he does.
 
Mamoon said:
Archer is a far better bowler than Naseem can ever hope to be. His 2019 summer alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career.

But ECB should not rush Archer back in Test cricket as long as the pathetic leadership of Stokes and McCullum are at the helm.

Their rubbish Bazball nonsense doesn’t allow the bowlers enough time to rest between innings and Archer will breakdown again in no time.
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I would love to see Archer come back but at best his ceiling might be T20’s. England fans are not happy with his attitude either, Morgan the great leader was able to keep him in line. What he achieved in the WC was special, but also worth pointing out he played with one of the greatest LOI teams of all times and under England’s best captain in limited forms.

Naseem Shah has come on strong over the past couple of years and it’s unfortunate he never got to play in the WC, it’s clear he was the glue holding the Pakistani bowling attack together because it fell apart without him. He might have more time now to prove himself providing he is injury free.
 
England needs him desperately
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Jofra Archer: England bowler breaks stumps as he continues return from injury with two wickets

England remain hopeful that fast bowler Jofra Archer will be able to feature in the T20 World Cup
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England fast bowler Jofra Archer returned to action in India as part of a 10-day training camp with Sussex as he continues his recovery from an elbow injury

England fast bowler Jofra Archer took wickets as he continued return from injury in India, one of which broke the stumps.

Archer has not played a competitive match since the IPL last year and has been recovering from a stress fracture in his right elbow.

He is currently in India with Sussex for a 10-day training camp and did not bowl on the opening day of a two-day match against the Karnataka State Cricket Association (KSCA).

But he joined the KSCA team as a substitute on Friday and took two wickets in the morning session, including one where he broke the stumps.

Archer will not be part of the IPL this year but England are optimistic he can be fit for the T20 World Cup in June. He averages 24.66 in T20I.

Due to his various injuries, Archer has been restricted to 15 T20Is for England since making his debut in 2019, including missing the 2022 T20 World Cup triumph in Australia after a two-year absence between March 2021 and March 2023.

The 28-year-old starred during the 50-over World Cup in 2019, taking 20 wickets and leading England to a famous victory at Lord's after being entrusted to bowl a Super Over against New Zealand.

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Jofra Archer: England bowler ruled out of Tests until 2025​


England pace bowler Jofra Archer will not play Test cricket until 2025 but this summer's T20 World Cup is "absolutely" a realistic goal, says managing director Rob Key.

Archer, 29, has not played for England in any format since March 2023 because of an elbow injury.

The T20 World Cup in the West Indies and United States starts on 1 June.

"The whole plan with Jofra is he is going to play white-ball cricket this summer," Key told Sky Sports.

"Then hopefully next summer when we play India then the Ashes [in Australia] we get him back for Test cricket."

Archer bowled the super over when England won the final of the 2019 World Cup against New Zealand.

However, his career has been hampered by injuries since and he missed the entire home summer last year with a stress fracture in his right elbow.

Archer, who signed a two-year central contract with England in October, last played a Test in February 2021.

"Jofra's been out at Sussex's pre-season in India and bowled quickly out there. He bowled really well," Key said.

"He's now just gone back to the Caribbean, where he will play a little bit of club cricket, stuff like that.

"It's all about getting himself ready for that T20 World Cup. He'll hopefully play the Pakistan [T20] series [in May], but it's all fingers crossed with Jofra at the moment.

"What we're going to do is take it slower [rather] than trying to go too quickly so we get him back for not just a short period, but a long period."

England play three Tests against West Indies and Sri Lanka this summer.

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Jofra Archer: England bowler ruled out of Tests until 2025

England pace bowler Jofra Archer will not make his Test return this summer but the T20 World Cup in June is a realistic goal, says managing director Rob Key.
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Archer may be having his return series against us next month! Excited to see him back in action.
 
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Jofra Archer: England bowler keen to avoid 'another stop-start year' after injury problems​


Jofra Archer says he will struggle to cope with any more injury setbacks, saying: "I don't know if I've got another stop-start year in me."

Since winning the World Cup with England in 2019, Archer has been plagued by injuries and last played competitively in May 2023.

A recurrence of a stress fracture in his right elbow last year has since ruled him out.

But the fast bowler is hoping to return in time for the T20 World Cup in June.

"It's been a while and honestly, I don't know if I've got another stop-start year in me. That's the truth, I don't know if I've got another one," he told the 4Cast's Athlete's Voice podcast.

"I haven't played cricket for a whole 12 months as yet. Last year I played from January to May.

"I think the year before that I played maybe one or two games for Sussex, so you know I've had a whole year of nothing."

Archer had gone nearly two years without playing international cricket before featuring in four one-day internationals and three T20s between January and March 2023.

Despite that, England will be keen to have the seamer in their squad as they try to defend their T20 World Cup crown.

The tournament in the United States and Caribbean begins on 1 June.

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England's Archer wary of 'another stop-start year'

Jofra Archer says he will struggle to cope with any more injury problems, saying: "I don't know if I've got another stop-start year in me."
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April 18 (Reuters) - Fast bowler Jofra Archer said he cannot endure another year disrupted by injuries as he looks to secure a spot in England's Twenty20 World Cup squad.

The 29-year-old's career has been plagued by injuries and he has not played for England in any format since March 2023 because of an elbow injury.

He was also sidelined for much of 2021 and 2022 due to back and elbow injuries.
"Last year, I played from January to May, because I did go to the IPL as well. And then the year before that, I played maybe one or two games for Sussex, so I've had a whole year of nothing ...," Archer told 4Cast's 'The Athlete's Voice' podcast on Wednesday.

"Hopefully, from June 1 to when June 1 comes next year, hopefully I've had no breaks... no injuries, and just constantly playing.

"It's been a while and honestly, I don't know if I've got another stop-start year in me. That's the truth, I don't know if I've got another one."

Earlier this month, Rob Key, managing director of the England men's team, said the pace bowler could still play in the World Cup in the West Indies and U.S., which begins on June 1.
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Archer said he was just hoping to get back to playing consistently, even if he does not make the cut for the World Cup squad.

"There's still the T20 Blast, there's still the Hundred," Archer said.
"There's still cricket that I haven't got a chance to play in the last couple of years. As much as I want to play in the World Cup, if it doesn't happen for whatever reason, at least I still know I could be somewhat active as well."

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Jofra Archer set to be named in England squad for T20 World Cup defence

Jofra Archer is set to make his long-awaited England return as part of the 15-man T20 World Cup squad that is named on Tuesday, with Chris Jordan also in line for a recall to the white-ball set-up.

Archer has not played for England since a limited-overs tour of Bangladesh in March last year after his longstanding right elbow issue – stress fractures in the joint – resurfaced and prompted another lengthy absence for the fast bowler.

But after rebuilding his fitness, featuring in pre-season for Sussex and club cricket in Barbados, the 29-year-old is expected to be included when Rob Key names squads for the four-match T20 series against Pakistan in late May and the T20 World Cup defence in the Caribbean that follows.

It may be that Archer is joined by his close friend, Jordan, who has entered the conversation after a winter playing franchise T20 in Australia, the United Arab Emirates and Pakistan. A T20 World Cup winner in 2022, the 35-year-old was overlooked for England’s last white-ball series in the Caribbean and did not feature in the most recent batch of men’s central contracts.

But with England having initially earmarked Jamie Overton as a big-hitting fast bowler down the order – only to see him suffer a back injury in recent weeks – Jordan’s similar success at clearing the ropes late on in the innings, added to his experience bowling at the death and elite fielding, could well see him get the nod.


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Jofra Archer has recovered from his right elbow injury and is named in England's Provisional squad for the upcoming T20 World Cup.

Archer’s last appearance at this level came over a year ago in England’s tour of Bangladesh in March 2023.

Will he be fit enough to play the world cup or is it just another hoax of his comeback?
 
Flexible Archer looms as key to England's T20 World Cup defence

England know just how important fast bowler Jofra Archer will be to their title defence at next month's ICC Men's T20 World Cup.

Archer was on Tuesday named in England's 15-player group for the ninth edition of the T20 World Cup in June, with the tall right-armer seemingly having recovered from a host of injury concerns and ready to return to international cricket for the first time in more than 12 months.

While Archer was injured and missed England's unforgettable triumph at the most recent T20 World Cup in Australia in 2022, the 29-year-old was a key member of the squad that won a first ICC Men's Cricket World Cup title in 2019 and is sure to once again be pivotal in their quest for back-to-back tournament victories in the shortest format of the international game.

England's group of fast bowlers to win selection in the squad of 15 for the T20 World Cup consists of firebrand quick Mark Wood, reigning T20 World Cup Player of the Tournament Sam Curran, experienced all-rounder Chris Jordan and tall left-armer Reece Topley, but none have the match-winning ability that Archer possesses according to managing director Rob Key.

Key believes it's Archer's ability to bowl at any stage of an innings that makes him stand out from the rest and he can't wait to see him return to action at the T20 World Cup.

"When you look at the attributes you want for a bowler in international cricket, Jofra has all of them. A lot of bowlers tick one or two of those, but Jofra has absolutely all of them," Key told BBC Sport.

"He can start, bowl in the middle and at the end, and he smack it as well. Fingers crossed we continue to go in the right direction with him."

Respected commentator and England great Nasser Hussain was also thrilled to see Archer's name among those selected for the T20 World Cup and he believes the Barbados-born quick can make a similar impact to star India pacer Jasprit Bumrah.

"Like India's Jasprit Bumrah, Archer is an incredibly skilled multi-phase bowler. He can take the new ball, break partnerships in the middle overs, then come back at the death," Hussain wrote in his column for the Daily Mail.

"It's why he leapfrogged David Willey into the 2019 World Cup squad, and why Ben Stokes entrusted him with the Super Over in the (World Cup) final against New Zealand. Fingers crossed he can stay fit this time."

England will fly to the Caribbean on 31 May ahead of their first game against Scotland in Barbados on 4 June. They are drawn in Group B at the T20 World Cup alongside Australia, Namibia, Scotland and Oman.

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No team has welcomed Jofra Archer the way the Pakistani team just did. Babar and Fakhar humbled him.
 
First over 15 runs

Next 3 overs 13 runs

In the last 3 overs is approximately 4.33 runs per over

What a comeback
 
Former England captain Eoin Morgan was talking on Sky Sports on Jofra Archer's performance in his comeback game:

"He will gain a huge amount of confidence. He spoke earlier today about combining performances with getting game time under his belt.

"He started expensive, but bounced back really well - he looked in fine rhythm, looked fit and his pace was up, with his variations towards the end.

"When you've been out for so long, the lack of trust in your own body means it takes a huge amount of guts and courage to go out there and go through your full repertoire.

"Very impressed with England as a whole and, in particular, Archer. It's a great sign for cricket fans around the world - although not necessarily batters."
 
England captain Jos Buttler on Jofra Archer's return during this post match interview:

"I thought he was brilliant. you can see the emotion, taking wickets again, is fantastic. He's not just going to be the Jofra Archer of old straight away, but a really positive performance. It's absolutely trying to get overs into Jofra but looking after him as well. I thought the whole bowling group was brilliant."
 
Absolutely incredible. I have never in my life seen a more overrated cricketer.

He hasn’t played for years and the amount of hype he continues to get.

He was toyed with by Babar and Fakhar today and then hidden by Butler until Pakistan’s terrible middle order came out.
 
Good comeback after getting smashed to bits in that first over, can be very demoralising. A solid return after a while, today was about going through the motions and getting accustomed to high level international cricket, his speeds were spot on and the rhythm will come with more overs, Butler will be happy with the option
 
I think Pakistan might be one of the few top teams who make him look good. He's got the pace, but I just think the world's best batsmen will be less respectful when he strays from length.
 
Forum363 said:
Absolutely incredible. I have never in my life seen a more overrated cricketer.

He hasn’t played for years and the amount of hype he continues to get.

He was toyed with by Babar and Fakhar today and then hidden by Butler until Pakistan’s terrible middle order came out.
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He had a bad first over , call it a loosner .

This man can bowl quick with accuracy. He has all the variations too . If he stays fully fit , I predict he will be the leading wicket taker for England.
 
KingKhanWC said:
He had a bad first over , call it a loosner .

This man can bowl quick with accuracy. He has all the variations too . If he stays fully fit , I predict he will be the leading wicket taker for England.
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He’s a decent bowler.

But he’s like a Plunkett / Topley level bowler, who’s talked about as if he’s one of the best who ever played the game.

And that’s not even mentioning his entitled moody attitude.
 
Archer is a superstar fast bowler. A fit and firing Archer is a sight to behold and a huge asset for England.

He is a little rusty but the real positive for England is that he is clocking 90 mph which is the quickest he has bowled since 2019.

With a bit of match practice and more overs under his belt, he can crank it up to 94 mph - 95 mph. Wood & Archer combo can do some serious damage for England.

In spite of missing 3-4 prime years, he still has plenty of cricket left in him.
 
As long as he stays fit, he will be a menace for any team to face. The rhythm will come back the more he plays.

As a fan of fast-bowling you can't help but love that short run-up, smooth action and then that explosion of pace. I think he will enjoy bowling on those West Indies pitches. Particularly at his home ground in Barbados, which is known to offer pace and bounce.
 
Take a look at Jofra/Wood, these 2 are fast bowlers and complete an over/spell without breaking a sweat. Rauf on the other hand is sweating buckets which just goes to prove how unfit he is.

Jofra is light years ahead of any Pakistan pace bowler right now based on fitness alone.
 
An expensive first over and wicket, so far Jofra Archer has been the pick of English bowlers in ICC T20 World Cup 2024
 
Archer has exceeded my expectations - Buttler

England captain Jos Buttler says Jofra Archer has "exceeded my expectations" on his injury comeback at the T20 World Cup.

The fast bowler, 29, who returned after more than a year out with an elbow injury last month, has taken five wickets in the tournament.

He took 1-15 as England overcame the rain and Namibia on Saturday to put themselves in position to progress to the Super 8 stage before their qualification was confirmed by Australia's dramatic win over Scotland.

"We were in and out looking at the weather and Jofra was asleep on the bench - he's in a really good place," said Buttler.

"I’m just delighted to see him back in an England shirt playing on the big stage."

Archer made his first England appearance since March 2023 last month after recovering from a long-standing elbow injury - an issue which, along with a back stress fracture, has kept him out of action for much of the past three years.

At the World Cup he has taken a wicket in each completed match and has the best economy rate of any England bowler to have played in all of their matches.

"He’s been fantastic and is an amazing guy to have in the team to throw the ball to," said Buttler.

"He’s exceeded certainly my expectations for where he would be at. He was probably expecting that of himself."


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Jofra Archer (England player) pre-match Press Conference - 20th June 2024

[Reporter:]

Well played today. How much confidence can yourself and the team take from that performance as you go ahead now into the Super 8s?

[Jofra Archer:]

Well, it was a good win, we had a good night with bat and ball but it's only the first game in the Super 8 So last group stage we were struggling a bit obviously weather dependent as well so I don't think we've forgotten about that and we're going to just take every game in its stride.

[Reporter:]

In terms of the opposition though a strong highly fancied team lots of fans there in the stands. It was quite a pressure moment really for the team and you must be pleased with how they've come through.

[Jofra Archer:]

Yeah, it's probably going to be one of the toughest games we're going to play this tournament. Great opposition in their backyard as well, the crowd and everything going with them. So, I think to come out on top tonight when, I won't say it didn't look possible, but it was always going to be a tricky chase, batting second, all of that. So, I'm really, really glad that we were able to chase such a high total so early in the tournament so if we ever do get into trouble, we know exactly that we can do it.

[Reporter:]

Can you tell us about the way you seized the moment in the 16th over - it was a moment where it looked like maybe a big score was coming and Puran was set and you bowled five dot balls and the wicket it was it felt like quite a turning point.

[Jofra Archer:]

Well, it's everything - well I was just glad I executed, it's everything that we talked about in the bowling meetings and that's one of the times where you just nail it and the execution was almost perfect. I reckon if Woody didn't dive for that ball, he probably would have caught that as well. So, I'm really glad that that over was probably the tipping point a little bit.

[Reporter:]

And what about the turnaround now? It's just a very quick roll around, same venue, South Africa, another strong opposition. But on the back of a game like that, is the team really happy just to get back out on the park and go again?

[Jofra Archer:]

Oh, yeah, everyone loves to win. And everybody loves to win a really good or close game. So, I think confidence will be high but as I said earlier, it's only the first game, we've got another four or five, another five more games to go. So, this was lovely but it's still business as usual for on Friday.

[Reporter:]

You're bowling those tough overs quite regularly aren't you - the 16th, is that something, I mean they're the pressure overs, is that something you really enjoy?

[Jofra Archer:]

I wouldn't say you enjoy it, it's your job. I feel like from the very first time I debuted at Sussex, I've always bowled two in the powerplay, maybe one in the middle and always two at the death. So, the times that I bowled never really changed so you don't really think about it too much you just know you got to get on with it.

[Reporter:]

Can I ask how the body's feeling you were that was probably the quickest I think you bowled tonight since you've been back everything looked easy how's it feeling?

[Jofra Archer:]

Well, I was just speaking to Danny about it as well. But you don't really get the chance to run in and bowl fast. Usually, everyone just sits back and try to use the pace. I feel like from the Pakistan series, they've just been trying to mix the pace and try not to be too predictable. Obviously, in the back end, then usually you will bowl a bit more pace on balls. But to be honest, in the power play, you just got to mix it up, try not to get lined up, try not to get too predictable.

[Reporter:]

This tournament must give you some mixed emotions, given your Caribbean background as well. How has it been for you, just emotionally?

[Jofra Archer:]

No, no mixed emotions. I never played - this is the first time I played in St. Lucia. Last week was the first time I played in Antigua. I didn't play any cricket in the Caribbean, really, other than in St. Kitts. I'm just like the other guys, just finding my feet and just trying to get used to the conditions here.

[Reporter:]

Can you just tell us the challenge that South Africa batting lineup are going to present you guys as bowling attack on Friday?

[Jofra Archer:]

It's the same challenge as any other team obviously all teams have good- like every single team one to six is packed with good batters so it doesn't really change. We're going to plan and we're going to have our bowling meeting and we're going to just try to come up with a plan that works.

[Reporter:]

And in the 50 over World Cup in India last year that game in Mumbai against South Africa was a bad one for England. There'll be a lot of guys in the dressing room who maybe feel they owe them one do you think on Friday?

[Jofra Archer:]

Honestly, I didn't get to watch that game because I was on my way back to the UK that same day. So, I didn't really get to watch it. Yes, I know the tournament wasn't a great tournament for the boys and the thing that's just passed us. It happens. And we're just trying to put our best foot forward.

[Reporter:]

Yeah, just tell me where your head was at, seeing that you had to face the West Indies team, given their previous performance – on Monday.

[Jofra Archer:]

I guess, as I said earlier, there's a dangerous opposition, especially playing in their backyard. They had a really good game against Afghanistan as well. But I think we're a different bowling. And I think we probably have more seamers in them as well. So, it's different. It was just a different game altogether. We know what they're capable of, but you still got to back yourself in those situations.

[Reporter:]

Your team is packed with a lot of skilled players. You all have a lot of professional, skilful players. But your role is a special one as a bowler. You play some of a starring role, I would say. How do you relish that role? How do you help to uplift your team? Is it something that you relish? Is it something that you take on the responsibility?

[Jofra Archer:]

I guess so. And obviously, just coming back into the team, I feel that I just want to give back. I didn't think about it too badly in the first couple overs. So that's the time where you've got to run around in the field. You've got to try to make something happen, even though you're not bowling. Because I think just giving back to the team makes it a bit easier for everybody else. So, with bat, ball, fielding, I'm just always trying to help. So that's just the type of person I am.
 
Archer has sent Rohit Sharma home multiple times in T20Is

Rohit Sharma vs Jofra Archer in T20Is

6 inns, 17 runs, 20 balls, 3 outs, 5.7 avg, 85 SR
 
Archer wants to play 2025-26 Ashes in Australia

England fast bowler Jofra Archer says he wants to play in the 2025-26 Ashes series in Australia as he plots his return to Test cricket.

Archer has not featured in the longer format since February 2021 having been hampered by back and elbow injuries over the last three years.

The 29-year-old played a full part in England's recent T20 World Cup campaign, however, which has raised hopes his injury problems could finally be behind him.

Archer's pace on traditionally bouncy Australian pitches would be a major asset to England captain Ben Stokes' bid to regain the urn.

England will continue to take a cautious approach with their management of Archer's workloads and he will not play any red-ball cricket in 2024.

"I am going to use the rest of this year to make sure that is at least a possibility," Archer said, when discussing the next Ashes tour.

"I'm tired of going on Instagram and seeing posts saying 'he's going to be on the physio's bed in the next two weeks' and stuff like that.

"I want to spend the rest of the year proving some people wrong and hopefully play in another Ashes."

Archer was a star of England's 2019 World Cup-winning campaign, bowling the super over in the final victory against New Zealand.

Later that summer the Sussex man bowled with ferocious hostility on his Ashes debut at Lord's, striking a blow to Steve Smith that led to one of Australia's premier batters having to be withdrawn because of a concussion.

England managing director Rob Key said in April that next year's home Test series against India was a realistic goal for Archer.

Speaking as part of the BBC TV coverage of the opening match of The Hundred, Archer also signalled his intention to play first-class cricket early next summer.

"I will manage myself as best as possible and get myself [through] until at least maybe the start of the Championship next year," Archer explained.

"I'll probably play a few of those [games] and keep building up and getting that workload ready for Test cricket."

He is set to make his long-awaited debut in The Hundred when the Southern Brave play London Spirit at Southampton on Wednesday.

He added: "I am feeling good and want to get some games in. I am going to enjoy this little phase of some white-ball cricket."

'Needs to take his time'

This is what everyone is hoping for. That Jofra Archer will be on that plane to Australia so let's hope that goes to plan.

It's great to see him back playing white-ball cricket, but he still needs to take his time.

Even if we have to wait all the way up until the Ashes in 2025 we will be happy.

I am looking into my crystal ball and thinking Jofra Archer, Mark Wood and Gus Atkinson would be a handy bowling attack for the Ashes.

I am pretty sure all the batters around the world are also thinking 'no thank you'.

ICC
 
England prioritise workload management as Archer prepares for ODI comeback

England will continue to ease Jofra Archer back into international cricket in the upcoming ODI series against Australia.

Jofra Archer is set to make his return to 50-over cricket for the first time since March 2023 in England's upcoming five-match ODI series against Australia.

After enduring multiple injuries over the years, England have been particularly cautious with Archer’s reintegration. He made his international comeback in May 2024, playing two T20Is during the bilateral series against Pakistan.

Archer then became a key figure for England in the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024, where he was the joint-highest wicket-taker, claiming 10 wickets across all eight matches as they reached the semi-finals.

White-ball captain Jos Buttler, who will miss the upcoming ODI series due to injury, expressed his desire to see Archer back in action across formats. However, he stressed that England would remain cautious in managing Archer's comeback to ensure his long-term fitness.

"Jofra will have to be managed throughout the series," Jos Buttler told Sky Sports on Sunday, 15 September. "He's played a really good stint now of T20 cricket, but obviously you can only bowl four overs in there. There's a jump in intensity getting loads up to taking full part in an ODI - and of course, as an England fan, to push those loads up hopefully to get back into the Test arena as well."

Following the T20 World Cup, Archer skipped the second half of the group stages of the Blast for Sussex and was rested for two matches in The Hundred while representing Southern Brave. In the recently concluded T20I series against Australia, he bowled just 3.3 overs across two games.

England's interim coach Marcus Trescothick too emphasised that Archer's participation in the series is carefully planned and managed by the team.

"He knows the plan," Trescothick said. "It's discussed long in advance of picking the team on each day. We know what we're doing with him, and where we're going. He's comfortable: he knows what he's doing.

"That's a bigger structure, in terms of what we're trying to do with Jofra. You come into the series knowing what we've got and what we can do with him. That's an agreed plan between the coaches, directors, physios and all the different people. We'll still be managing him [in the ODIs] - exactly the same thing."

The T20I series between England and Australia ended in a 1-1 draw after the third match in Manchester was washed out without a ball being bowled.

Attention now turns to the ODI series, beginning on 19 September, where Harry Brook will captain England for the first time in an international match, stepping in for the injured Jos Buttler.

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England prioritise workload management as Archer prepares for ODI comeback

England will continue to ease Jofra Archer back into international cricket in the upcoming ODI series against Australia.
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Archer to play first England ODI in 18 months​


Fast bowler Jofra Archer will play his first one-day international since March 2023 when England face Australia at Trent Bridge on Thursday.

The 29-year-old has been carefully managed by England after elbow and back injuries in recent years.

Archer has been eased back in, playing exclusively T20 cricket since returning to the international fold before June's T20 World Cup.

But stand-in England captain Harry Brook confirmed the Sussex pacer will play in the first ODI of the five-match series with no restrictions on his workload within the game.

"He's obviously a world-beater, and it'll be nice to have him alongside me and going out there and taking them on," Brook told BBC Sport.

"I haven't faced him much in the nets, I try and stay away from that.

"He's our strongest seamer and he's got a lot of experience behind him in white-ball as well. I'm looking forward to working with him and seeing him operate again."

Injury has limited Archer to just 21 ODI appearances with only seven of those coming since he played a starring role as England won the 2019 World Cup.

With an Ashes series in Australia now 14 months away, this is a significant step up for him.

A six-over spell for Sussex's second XI earlier this summer was the most he has bowled in a professional match this year, while he also played some club cricket in Barbados prior to the World Cup in the Caribbean.

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England v Australia: Jofra Archer to play first ODI since March 2023

Fast bowler Jofra Archer will play his first ODI since March 2023 when England face Australia at Trent Bridge on Thursday.
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Seems to be a good decision for England
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Jofra Archer is not going to be part of the IPL auction 2025.
 
Jofra Archer claims two quick wickets for his side in the 1st T20I encounter against India to give England some hope. His figures 2/17 so far in 3 overs
 

Jofra Archer: England’s brand of cricket remains the same despite T20 loss​


Jofra Archer insisted England will not be pressing the panic button despite a new white-ball era under Brendon McCullum starting with a comprehensive T20 defeat against India in Kolkata.

After a lacklustre batting display from England, India withstood a four-over burst from a revved-up Archer to race to their target of 133 with seven wickets and 43 balls to spare at Eden Gardens.

While Archer took two for 21, Tilak Varma top-edged his first delivery agonisingly over Phil Salt and there were other instances of tough catches going down or the ball dropping in front of fielders.

Archer accepted the result might not have been altered had fortune favoured England but the fast bowler believes the message from McCullum will be to simply go again in the second T20 in Chennai on Saturday.

“Their batters were extremely lucky,” Archer said.

“A lot of balls went up in the air and didn’t go to hand. Probably next time, they all go to hand and they’re 40 for six. I wish we could have caught them.

“Maybe we would have lost anyway, but that would have made us drag it (back) a bit more and they would have won it in the 17th or 18th over. I don’t mind losing, but I want to fight for it.

“We just want the guys to keep their head up. This happens a lot in India, especially in the IPL (Indian Premier League), the batters and bowlers go hard and we were just on the unlucky side of it.

“But nothing changes. Yes (McCullum is the) coach but we still carry on. He just lets us do what we want to do. Nothing changes. The coaches change but the brand of cricket always remains the same.”

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Jofra Archer: England’s brand of cricket remains the same despite T20 loss

India withstood a four-over burst from a revved-up Archer to race to their target of 133 with seven wickets and 43 balls to spare at Eden Gardens.
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Most expensive spell against India in India in T20Is

3/66 - Tanzim Hasan Sakib, Hyderabad, 2024
1/64 - Aaron Hardie, Guwahati, 2023
2/61 - Nuwan Pradeep, Indore, 2022
1/60 - Jofra Archer, Chennai, 2025
0/60 - Kesrick Williams, Hyderabad, 2019
 
Jofra Archer has bagged 12 wickets in India against the men in blue and five of those have come in the ongoing series.

1st T20I - 2/21
2nd T20I - 1/60
3rd T20I - 2/33

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