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[VIDEOS] Justice for Sahibzada Farhan: what did he do wrong?

Mamoon said:
It’s proven once again that Babar and Rizwan haters have 0 cricket knowledge.
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@Mamoon
I’ve been a big fan of Rizwan and Babar throughout their careers (and still am). But their stubborn approach to T20 cricket probably did need a breather.

That’s why today’s knock from Sahibzada Farhan really stood out. Against this in-form Indian bowling attack, in just his 2nd game against them, early in his international career, with comeback pressure and all the outside noise — he delivered. And he delivered in style.

Yes, Rizwan and Babar had that famous Dubai chase of 151, but this innings felt even more commanding. Never seen any Pakistani play Bumrah as comfortably as he did on both games.

Hopefully that puts a few concerns to rest. I also saw some notes from @khyberlion while ago that he’s not international class.
Clearly, domestic performances count for something. And he’s not as bad as you all are making him out to be.
 
Farabi said:
@Mamoon
I’ve been a big fan of Rizwan and Babar throughout their careers (and still am). But their stubborn approach to T20 cricket probably did need a breather.

That’s why today’s knock from Sahibzada Farhan really stood out. Against this in-form Indian bowling attack, in just his 2nd game against them, early in his international career, with comeback pressure and all the outside noise — he delivered. And he delivered in style.

Yes, Rizwan and Babar had that famous Dubai chase of 151, but this innings felt even more commanding. Never seen any Pakistani play Bumrah as comfortably as he did on both games.

Hopefully that puts a few concerns to rest. I also saw some notes from @khyberlion while ago that he’s not international class.
Clearly, domestic performances count for something. And he’s not as bad as you all are making him out to be.
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It’s funny because what Farhan did today is exactly the type of knocks that Babar and Rizwan got criticism for. Rizwan has done exactly the same throughout his T20 career as an opener.

I find the hypocrisy and double-standards highly amusing.
 
Mamoon said:
Bang average player who got lucky today but still couldn’t capitalize properly. He just doesn’t have the ability.

Got a lot of buffet balls, had a catch dropped on 0, and still ended up with a less than 130 SR.

Better than Babar my backside.
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Common. We’ve never seen Babar play an innings like this against India, specially this bowling.
 
Mamoon said:
It’s funny because what Farhan did today is exactly the type of knocks that Babar and Rizwan got criticism for. Rizwan has done exactly the same throughout his T20 career as an opener.

I find the hypocrisy and double-standards highly amusing.
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I honestly don’t remember this type of Rizbabar knock against India? When was this
 
GudduBadmash said:
Would you rather have us celebrate garbage Saim, Haris and Talat?

As seen on this forum a lot have tendency to celebrate mediocrity but we aren’t all that deluded
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Keep it realistic. No need to to go overboard when someone scores a 50 at 128. Pitch is very and India’s batting is a clear evident of that.
 
Farabi said:
I honestly don’t remember this type of Rizbabar knock against India? When was this
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Their match winning partnership in the 2021 T20 WC that led to Pakistan winning their one and only WC match vs India is bigger than Farhan’s entire career.

Rizwan’s match winning 71 (51) while chasing 182 vs India in the Asia Cup 2022 is also bigger than Farhan’s entire career.

All three innings were far superior than what Farhan did today.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Babar’s 68 of 52 @ SR of 132 chasing down 152 was better than Farhan’s innings in terms of runs scored and SR.
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That’s literally his only innings and you’ve got to go back 5 years in so many at least 10 games he’s played against India.
Also, this is a better bowling attack with peak Bumrah, Kuldeep and Varun, and solid support cast.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Keep it realistic. No need to to go overboard when someone scores a 50 at 128. Pitch is very and India’s batting is a clear evident of that.
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No , Pakistan bowling is dog crap as is the team in general . What India does should never be compared to what Pakistan does. They are leagues ahead of us in talent, skill and mentality

By Pakistani standards this was a good innings in a pressure match
 
Mamoon said:
Their match winning partnership in the 2021 T20 WC that led to Pakistan winning their one and only WC match vs India is bigger than Farhan’s entire career.

Rizwan’s match winning 71 (51) while chasing 182 vs India in the Asia Cup 2022 is also bigger than Farhan’s entire career.

All three innings were far superior than what Farhan did today.
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That’s just 2 standout innings in 20* games between the duo. They were good knocks, no doubt — but the quality of bowling they faced back then was clearly a notch below what we saw today.
 
Farabi said:
That’s literally his only innings and you’ve got to go back 5 years in so many at least 10 games he’s played against India.
Also, this is a better bowling attack with peak Bumrah, Kuldeep and Varun, and solid support cast.
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Bumrah actually isn’t bowing that well. And this is the is the flattest of the pitches if there has been one. In the end Farhan scored at the SR of 128 on a pitch he should be going over 170.
 
Mamoon said:
The people who are justifying Farhan’s innings today would have been critical of Babar and Rizwan had they played the exact same innings.
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Not really. We have been desperate for ANY runs by the duo against India since years after that fluke in 2021. We’d have happily taken any runs.
 
GudduBadmash said:
No , Pakistan bowling is dog crap as is the team in general . What India does should never be compared to what Pakistan does. They are leagues ahead of us in talent, skill and mentality

By Pakistani standards this was a good innings in a pressure match
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No, it wasn’t. It was an innings at the SR of 128. An innings of 128 SR in modern cricket is nothing to be cherished about. Period.
This is an over 200 run wicket and Pakistan scoring way under par, there is no pressure on Indian batsmen thus they are running away with the target.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Bumrah actually isn’t bowing that well. And this is the is the flattest of the pitches if there has been one. In the end Farhan scored at the SR of 128 on a pitch he should be going over 170.
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Yes, the so-called alternative poster boys @Mamoon keeps mentioning piled up runs on flat tracks against India. But when we were getting hammered and our batting collapsed — where were those runs then?

And let’s be clear: Bumrah is at his absolute peak right now, and Kuldeep and Varun are as well. This is easily the strongest T20I bowling unit India has put together since the format began.
 
GudduBadmash said:
Can’t compare their batting to ours. They are genuinely world class
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It also wasn’t great for us either given our position. We were 90-1.

He started so well too, it went from a great innings to ending it a mere ok one due to the slow down. This is a 200 plus pitch this isn’t a low scoring pitch.

His boundary hitting is good, but the man needs to work on rotating strike. How can you be hitting so many boundaries and still be scoring that slowly. He is showing potential though which is good.

Still he batted better than anyone apart from maybe faheem.

What makes me sad is I really think had fakhar stayed in to today we would have had a monster score. He was looking good and everyone knows he doesn’t slow down once set.
 
Farabi said:
Good knock that day by Rizwan and Nawaz. That bowling didn’t have Bumrah, Kuldeep or Varun. It was a pretty weak bowling.
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Bumrah isn’t fully fit and one time he was thinking of opting out of Asia cup. There was no spin in the wicket, therefore Varun and Kuldeep were not that effective. In the end Farhan scored only @128 SR which isn’t anything to celebrate about.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Bumrah isn’t fully fit and one time he was thinking of opting out of Asia cup. There was no spin in the wicket, therefore Varun and Kuldeep were not that effective. In the end Farhan scored only @128 SR which isn’t anything to celebrate about.
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It is for our batting standards. Because with Rizbabar we didn’t even get that against this opposition or in pressure games. They’ve both playing 20+ games between them on all sorts of pitches, and you have to go back 5 years to count 2 innings, one of which was against a 2nd string bowling.
 
cricketmania22 said:
Bumrah isn’t fully fit and one time he was thinking of opting out of Asia cup. There was no spin in the wicket, therefore Varun and Kuldeep were not that effective. In the end Farhan scored only @128 SR which isn’t anything to celebrate about.
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India bowled pretty badly today and fielding was awful. I actually think the standard was higher than faced even if the current attack is better. Was a very bad day for them.

Was a golden opportunity we had to win. The 200 score was on with that start but we blew it.
 
ads101 said:
India bowled pretty badly today and fielding was awful. I actually think the standard was higher than faced even if the current attack is better. Was a very bad day for them.

Was a golden opportunity we had to win. The 200 score was on with that start but we blew it.
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Those errors were forced — the bowlers were put under real pressure. No Pakistani has ever pushed Bumrah like that in T20s before, and seeing him under the pump today genuinely shocked the Indian side.
 
Farabi said:
It is for our batting standards. Because with Rizbabar we didn’t even get that against this opposition or in pressure games. They’ve both playing 20+ games between them on all sorts of pitches, and you have to go back 5 years to count 2 innings, one of which was against a 2nd string bowling.
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It not 5 years, it’s 7-8 matches. We don’t play more than 1 T20 per year with them. Babar has played only 4-5 T20vs India not sure where 20+ came for. You keep making excuses from fluke to second string bowling line up to made up matches number. Whatever you say bottom line is 50 at a SR of 128 is very ordinary.
 
cricketmania22 said:
It not 5 years, it’s 7-8 matches. We don’t play more than 1 T20 per year with them. Babar has played only 4-5 T20vs India not sure where 20+ came for. You keep making excuses from fluke to second string bowling line up to made up matches number. Whatever you say bottom line is 50 at a SR of 128 is very ordinary.
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Admittedly clubbing T20s and ODIs but still. They’ve played huge number of games and delivered 1 or 2 knocks. Any batter can deliver that after than many games.
What Farhan did today was much more special.
 
Mamoon said:
Abhishek has made a mockery of Farhan’s sissy knock. A nothing innings in the context of this match.
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Right now, Pakistan lacks the batting and bowling depth to match India — they’re superior across the board.

The point isn’t to compare Farhan to Abhishek, nor was it fair to compare Rizwan and Babar. Expectations aren’t about scoring 200+ strike rates against India or other top sides under pressure; they’re about competing, posting par totals, and not folding for 120–140 while relying solely on flukes or the bowling attack. Until today, Pakistan’s batting rarely met even that baseline.

In only his second game against India, Farhan delivered a composed, competitive knock in a must-win match against one of the strongest T20 bowling attacks in recent memory. He attacked bowlers who’ve haunted Pakistan for nearly a decade — and succeeded. We aren’t claiming he’s a superstar yet, but he’s certainly not as weak as some are suggesting.

By contrast, after 18 games against India, Rizwan and Babar had ample opportunities but only managed one fluke win in 2021. Otherwise, they often went missing when it mattered most.

Farhan’s performance isn’t a lucky exception — it’s proof that Pakistan batsmen can compete under pressure when they rise to the occasion. We can post a good total against a top bowling unit without Rizbabar and we need to bowl better another day. Any claim otherwise seems less about cricket and more about pushing an agenda.
 
Farabi said:
The point isn’t to compare Farhan to Abhishek
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Who’s comparing Farhan to Abhishek?

I bet it’s the same clowns who cry when we compare Babar and Rizwan with international openers…and their counter argument is to “compare Babar and Rizwan with Pakistan players only sarr!!” 🤡
 
Farabi said:
@Mamoon
I’ve been a big fan of Rizwan and Babar throughout their careers (and still am). But their stubborn approach to T20 cricket probably did need a breather.

That’s why today’s knock from Sahibzada Farhan really stood out. Against this in-form Indian bowling attack, in just his 2nd game against them, early in his international career, with comeback pressure and all the outside noise — he delivered. And he delivered in style.

Yes, Rizwan and Babar had that famous Dubai chase of 151, but this innings felt even more commanding. Never seen any Pakistani play Bumrah as comfortably as he did on both games.

Hopefully that puts a few concerns to rest. I also saw some notes from @khyberlion while ago that he’s not international class.
Clearly, domestic performances count for something. And he’s not as bad as you all are making him out to be.
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After failing non stop he plays a decent knock and now we are being lectured by you. He could have been out for a duck and you wouldn't have made this post instead would be hiding.

He's played most of his games against minnows and his performance is quite average. Farhan is a poor batsmen and will never succeed in long term. He will play the occasional decent knock Evey now and then and will go missing.
 
Farabi said:
Right now, Pakistan lacks the batting and bowling depth to match India — they’re superior across the board.

The point isn’t to compare Farhan to Abhishek, nor was it fair to compare Rizwan and Babar. Expectations aren’t about scoring 200+ strike rates against India or other top sides under pressure; they’re about competing, posting par totals, and not folding for 120–140 while relying solely on flukes or the bowling attack. Until today, Pakistan’s batting rarely met even that baseline.

In only his second game against India, Farhan delivered a composed, competitive knock in a must-win match against one of the strongest T20 bowling attacks in recent memory. He attacked bowlers who’ve haunted Pakistan for nearly a decade — and succeeded. We aren’t claiming he’s a superstar yet, but he’s certainly not as weak as some are suggesting.

By contrast, after 18 games against India, Rizwan and Babar had ample opportunities but only managed one fluke win in 2021. Otherwise, they often went missing when it mattered most.

Farhan’s performance isn’t a lucky exception — it’s proof that Pakistan batsmen can compete under pressure when they rise to the occasion. We can post a good total against a top bowling unit without Rizbabar and we need to bowl better another day. Any claim otherwise seems less about cricket and more about pushing an agenda.
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Bro i think we can beat sri lanka and bangladesh and make it to final still?
 
Rana said:
Who’s comparing Farhan to Abhishek?

I bet it’s the same clowns who cry when we compare Babar and Rizwan with international openers…and their counter argument is to “compare Babar and Rizwan with Pakistan players only sarr!!” 🤡
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It’s unbelievable. Instead of supporting Pakistan cricket and acknowledging a solid knock by a youngster under pressure, @Mamoon is comparing it to Abhishek’s innings and calling for the return of players who never even delivered at this baseline so Pakistan can get to a par/competitive total. We’ve repeatedly suffered batting collapses, getting bowled out for under-par totals in T20Is and ODIs against India—flat pitch or no flat pitch. And yet, Farhan’s effort isn’t “good enough” because, apparently, Abhishek played a blitz. The irony is unreal.
 
khyberlion said:
After failing non stop he plays a decent knock and now we are being lectured by you. He could have been out for a duck and you wouldn't have made this post instead would be hiding.

He's played most of his games against minnows and his performance is quite average. Farhan is a poor batsmen and will never succeed in long term. He will play the occasional decent knock Evey now and then and will go missing.
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I respect your comment—at least you have the courage to call it a “decent” knock.

Honestly, I think he’s OK, especially considering the kind of batting talent Pakistan usually produces. I’ve been watching Pakistan batting for nearly three decades, and Farhan is definitely not as bad as some are making him out to be in this format.
 
Farabi said:
I respect your comment—at least you have the courage to call it a “decent” knock.

Honestly, I think he’s OK, especially considering the kind of batting talent Pakistan usually produces. I’ve been watching Pakistan batting for nearly three decades, and Farhan is definitely not as bad as some are making him out to be in this format.
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It is simple really. If we want to compete against the top teams is he the answer no. Is he better than the other options in domestics yes. I have watched him play when he made his debut in domestics and his still can't rotate strike and still has very limited footwork.
 
Farabi said:
It’s unbelievable. Instead of supporting Pakistan cricket and acknowledging a solid knock by a youngster under pressure, @Mamoon is comparing it to Abhishek’s innings and calling for the return of players who never even delivered at this baseline so Pakistan can get to a par/competitive total. We’ve repeatedly suffered batting collapses, getting bowled out for under-par totals in T20Is and ODIs against India—flat pitch or no flat pitch. And yet, Farhan’s effort isn’t “good enough” because, apparently, Abhishek played a blitz. The irony is unreal.
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Oh right

I’ve moved on from Chewwits on this forum.

It’s better to just not engage. Wasting your time with guys who don’t have the best interests of Pakistan is pointless.
 
khyberlion said:
It is simple really. If we want to compete against the top teams is he the answer no. Is he better than the other options in domestics yes. I have watched him play when he made his debut in domestics and his still can't rotate strike and still has very limited footwork.
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I can’t get past how Rizwan and Babar’s 50 @128 are crimes against humanity while Farhan’s 50 @128 is praiseworthy.

Absolutely hilarious hypocrisy.
 
khyberlion said:
It is simple really. If we want to compete against the top teams is he the answer no. Is he better than the other options in domestics yes. I have watched him play when he made his debut in domestics and his still can't rotate strike and still has very limited footwork.
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Again, today was against a top side—the No. 1 team in red-hot form with their full-strength bowling attack. In the last 7–8 years, how often has any Pakistani batter really put India under pressure, especially against Bumrah? Sure, Farhan ended with just a 128 strike rate, but it was his innings that gave Pakistan a real chance in this game.

In the past, we didn’t even manage a competitive total. All we expected from Babar was a 50 at a 130 strike rate—but where was he? Except for one game, he went missing under pressure.

If there was ever a test, this was it. We have to persist with Farhan. For all his alleged limited talent, at least he’s mentally strong and ready to take on the challenge.
 
Mamoon said:
I can’t get past how Rizwan and Babar’s 50 @128 are crimes against humanity while Farhan’s 50 @128 is praiseworthy.

Absolutely hilarious hypocrisy.
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What is being said is that is it’s just Farhan’s second game against a top side like India. If he fails after 7-8 consecutive games against India like that duo did, we would call for his head too.
 
Snowflake said:
Scored 38 runs on 8 balls in boundaries.

And 20 runs on 37 balls in singles/doubles!

Good innings but nothing more than that. With that number of boundaries, his strike rate should be WAY HIGHER
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This.

He looked so good out there and still ended up with a SR of just 128. When you get that kind of a reprieve and manage to get off to a good start, you've got to do better.
 
Comparing his innings to Babar’s or Rizwans is still dumb though:

- How many matches has Farhan played and how many have those two llayed?

- Babar Rizwan play like this regardless of the situation. Even if we’re chasing 200+. Same can’t be said of his innings

- Babar and Rizwan both play like this when they are at the crease - Farhan was batting with Fakhar and Saim who were going at a decent pace

- Farhan was at least trying to go for the boundaries while Babar and Rizwan, despite having the capability, don’t go for it
 
Snowflake said:
Comparing his innings to Babar’s or Rizwans is still dumb though:

- How many matches has Farhan played and how many have those two llayed?

- Babar Rizwan play like this regardless of the situation. Even if we’re chasing 200+. Same can’t be said of his innings

- Babar and Rizwan both play like this when they are at the crease - Farhan was batting with Fakhar and Saim who were going at a decent pace

- Farhan was at least trying to go for the boundaries while Babar and Rizwan, despite having the capability, don’t go for it
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Babar and Rizwan can only dream of taking down the prime bowlers

Farhan’s issue has been the dots he accumulates to the crap bowlers

He always fancies himself to take on the spearheads.he doesn’t back down either.

Rizwan clearly admitted that him and Babar look after the 5th/6th bowler to score a 15+ run over at a time of need.
 
Mamoon said:
It’s funny because what Farhan did today is exactly the type of knocks that Babar and Rizwan got criticism for. Rizwan has done exactly the same throughout his T20 career as an opener.

I find the hypocrisy and double-standards highly amusing.
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That’s correct.

If someone who is against Rizwan/Babar in T20s and yet backs Farhan or Agha, that’s either plain hypocrisy or they just don’t have the ability to properly judge batting talent.

@Rana brother Farhan is exactly like Rizwan and he will always play at this strike rate — ending up at 110-125max on his best day.

I don’t understand why you are against Rizwan (which is the right thing to do) but are a fan of another talentless accumulator in Sahibzada Farhan.
 
Hawkeye said:
If someone who is against Rizwan/Babar in T20s and yet backs Farhan or Agha, that’s either plain hypocrisy or they just don’t have the ability to properly judge batting talent
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Who are you feeding this argument off from?

The same people who said Rizwan and Babar are crap for T20 in 2022/23

But now are saying Rizwan and Babar are the best options for Pakistan?!!

You have to pick the correct people with correct moral standards to build morally correct arguments.
 
This guy is reverse clone of Rizwan. Goes bang bang upfront then completely stalls. 3 sixes 5 fours. 38 runs in 8 balls. Then 20 runs in the remaining 37 balls. Rizwan does the opposite. Tuk tuk upfront. Goes bang bang in the end overs. Net result is the same
 
Rana said:
Who are you feeding this argument off from?

The same people who said Rizwan and Babar are crap for T20 in 2022/23

But now are saying Rizwan and Babar are the best options for Pakistan?!!

You have to pick the correct people with correct moral standards to build morally correct arguments.
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No brother. RizBar are still bad for T20s.

So is Sahibzada Farhan and Agha. They’re Rizwan 2.0 . Saw how bad Agha was in the middle? Couldn’t hit anything. Same for Nawaz.

We need more Saim Ayubs, Hassan Nawaz and M Haris. Plus obviously Fakhar.
 
Hawkeye said:
That’s correct.

If someone who is against Rizwan/Babar in T20s and yet backs Farhan or Agha, that’s either plain hypocrisy or they just don’t have the ability to properly judge batting talent.

@Rana brother Farhan is exactly like Rizwan and he will always play at this strike rate — ending up at 110-125max on his best day.

I don’t understand why you are against Rizwan (which is the right thing to do) but are a fan of another talentless accumulator in Sahibzada Farhan.
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In the 18–20 games Rizwan and Babar have played against India between them, how often did they even cross 50? How many times did they give Pakistan a start like 90/1 in 10 overs? Most of their big knocks came against second-string sides.

Farhan, on the other hand, has maintained a 150+ strike rate this year against second-string teams and didn’t go missing against a top-quality side. It’s due to his knock, our team got to a par total. Otherwise we weren’t even getting that. That’s exactly what we expected from the Rizwan–Babar duo—but they haven’t even delivered par performances against India bar 1 game to keep Pakistan competitive against teams like India.
 
Hawkeye said:
No brother. RizBar are still bad for T20s.

So is Sahibzada Farhan and Agha. They’re Rizwan 2.0 . Saw how bad Agha was in the middle? Couldn’t hit anything. Same for Nawaz.

We need more Saim Ayubs, Hassan Nawaz and M Haris. Plus obviously Fakhar.
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Not too sure about your comment about Farhan. At least he doesn’t go MIA under pressure. We need men like him in this mental midget team.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
This guy is reverse clone of Rizwan. Goes bang bang upfront then completely stalls. 3 sixes 5 fours. 38 runs in 8 balls. Then 20 runs in the remaining 37 balls. Rizwan does the opposite. Tuk tuk upfront. Goes bang bang in the end overs. Net result is the same
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He is a more natural striker of the ball. If he improves his strike-rotation he can be a very good white-ball batsman.
 
He slowed down a lot towards the end of his innings - probably because wickets were falling at the other end and we couldn't maintain any momentum or rotate strike.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
He is a more natural striker of the ball. If he improves his strike-rotation he can be a very good white-ball batsman.
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you can't improve strike rotation suddenly. You need finer skills for that. You need to be a stroke player to switch between gears. He has developed his bashing game obviously. These pitches are slow pitches he can whack pacers through the line when theprovide pace. Even there he got a life or two. India provided him pace. But moment Dube started bowling his timing was all over. Dube is bowling in his 5th T20 match ever. He is that irregular bowler. In a way his 45 ball stay helped India similar Rizwan's stays and Babar's stays. He is not a ball striker like peak Fakhar zaman
 
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