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[VIDEOS] Justice for Sahibzada Farhan: what did he do wrong?

The discussion drifted to whether domestic performance is reliable to give players chances, or players can be written off on qualitative factors despite that performance. It wasn’t specific to Farhan.

It’s true overall perf is not that great. Hoeever, Farhan is the table topper for the past 2 seasons in the National T20, with a strike rate of 178 in the most recent National T20 tournament, which was one of the best in the last season.

This does not guarantee success. But if he’s still not good enough to get a few chances internationally, then my suggestion would be to scrap domestic tournaments and just use camps and bring in “experts” to evaluate talent based on their eyes. Whats the point of these domestic tournaments.
National T20 last two seasons were played by close to 30 teams I think.

Other that that crap tournament Sahibzada is a complete failure.

Get over it
 
Justice for Salman ali agha to not let him play in T20s. He is pathetic. He is in the league of Azam Khan here in T20s.
but still he should have been given consistent chances not in bits... PCB actually shattered his confidence.
 
National T20 last two seasons were played by close to 30 teams I think.

Other that that crap tournament Sahibzada is a complete failure.

Get over it
These type of arguments have the same logical fallacy. All others played the same tournament with 30 teams right?
It doesn’t matter how low the domestic tournament quality is, the best performer is still the best out of that lot.
Put another way, someone who did poorly in the said 30 team tournament, what chance does he have at international level? They would be even worse than Farhan.
I am not backing any player, I am backing process.
 
National T20 last two seasons were played by close to 30 teams I think.

Other that that crap tournament Sahibzada is a complete failure.

Get over it
Agreed, when ever he has played for Pakistan he has looked rubbish and also in Psl bar a couple of games he's been a failure. It's good that chapter is coming to and end.
 
Still gonna support him??? He is pathetic... He just is not an international material. Good riddance that he got dropped from the sqaud.
 
Justice delayed is justice denied

However he has been given enough chances yet no results.
 
Sahibzada Farhan needs to prove his mettle in red-ball cricket. I think modern-day cricket is too challenging for him in the white-ball format. Yes, he is a champion player in domestic cricket, but it suggests that our domestic white-ball standard is far behind others.
 
Dolphins' Sahibzada Farhan scored his 15th T20 fifty against Lions in PCB Champions T20 Cup 2024

Before today, Farhan's highest score in his last 10 T20 innings was 12

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A duck for farhan sahib today against Panthers in champions t20 cup game. Ali raza got him trapped plumb in front.

This guy is not even domestic giant anymore..
 
A duck for farhan sahib today against Panthers in champions t20 cup game. Ali raza got him trapped plumb in front.

This guy is not even domestic giant anymore..
Yesterday you were praising him for his 50?
 
this is my post... I have not praised him here..
Must have misread. I was asking because farhan is even worse then rizzu for t20 cricket.

Fakhar and saim shpuld reopen.

People forget that before falhar was shoved down, he was avg 33 with a sr of 149 in t20 cricket in 2018. That's as good as 2017 Travis but obviously far far behind current Travis who's avg 38 with 178 sr this year in t20
 
Must have misread. I was asking because farhan is even worse then rizzu for t20 cricket.

Fakhar and saim shpuld reopen.

People forget that before falhar was shoved down, he was avg 33 with a sr of 149 in t20 cricket in 2018. That's as good as 2017 Travis but obviously far far behind current Travis who's avg 38 with 178 sr this year in t20
Farhan is not even top 10 to open in T20Is..
 
Jokes that this dude was campaigning to get an opening slot in T20's.

Let this be an important lesson for everyone. Do not just be looking small sample sizes of a couple of tournament performances. Looking at the career stats gives you a much bigger sample and more context of a player's ability. His career SR of 128 in T20's says everything you need to know. He's not some fast, explosive opener like people were thinking because he had a couple of good domestic tournaments last year. His SR are very mid and he's got an even lower SR in List A than Rizwan.
 
Well according to many, Sahibzada Farhan’s technique only works in domestic but it doesn’t work internationally. Somehow they have a magic wand

The experts here said the same things about Saim, Kamran and agha 😎
 
Well according to many, Sahibzada Farhan’s technique only works in domestic but it doesn’t work internationally. Somehow they have a magic wand
It's not working in domestics either now. As I said he not good enough and never will be. The evidence is in front of us.
 
Which format did he perform in domestic and which format has he debuted in?
He performed in t20s and when he was selected he batted worse than a tailender. He's also performed in FC and it will end as bad as his t20 career. If you have been watching the t20 domestic tournament you would know how bad he is. He's all at sea against fast bowlers who are moving the ball. His technique is shocking for an opener and if given a chance he will be one of our worst test openers and that says something as he have had plenty of awful ones. You can bookmark this post if he does play test cricket. Thankfully our selectors and management are fully aware how poor he is, hence never even been selected for the shaheens FC game, if I recall correctly.
 
He performed in t20s and when he was selected he batted worse than a tailender. He's also performed in FC and it will end as bad as his t20 career. If you have been watching the t20 domestic tournament you would know how bad he is. He's all at sea against fast bowlers who are moving the ball. His technique is shocking for an opener and if given a chance he will be one of our worst test openers and that says something as he have had plenty of awful ones. You can bookmark this post if he does play test cricket. Thankfully our selectors and management are fully aware how poor he is, hence never even been selected for the shaheens FC game, if I recall correctly.
Looking at the stats, his strength clearly lies in FC and List A cricket. His T20 record, aside from one standout season, has been pretty average. You can’t judge a player’s quality based on one good season alone. Fakhar Zaman is also having a rough tournament—does that make him a bad player? It’s hard to say whether it’s poor form or something else.

Writing someone off as "not international material" without giving them proper chances is exactly why Pakistan cricket struggles. If a player hasn’t dominated domestic cricket, they shouldn’t be in the national setup. But for those who’ve performed consistently for three seasons, they deserve at least 20 games in the same format before any conclusions are drawn.
 
You can judge a player if he is international material or not by looking at his ways of getting out and look at farhan's dismissals. he just cannot play pacers and his game against spin is all-over the place.

Farhan was selected because he scored some runs in domestics and now he is dropped because he was rightly judged as poor international batter just like Usman Khan in T20s is. Quailty is not there.
 
You can judge a player if he is international material or not by looking at his ways of getting out and look at farhan's dismissals. he just cannot play pacers and his game against spin is all-over the place.

Farhan was selected because he scored some runs in domestics and now he is dropped because he was rightly judged as poor international batter just like Usman Khan in T20s is. Quailty is not there.
You can judge a player if he is international material or not by looking at his ways of getting out and look at farhan's dismissals.

What 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. What kind of logic is this? Even Sachin and pointing look like tailenders if all you watch are highlights of them getting out 🤣🤣.

What sort of logic is this?
 
You can judge a player if he is international material or not by looking at his ways of getting out and look at farhan's dismissals.

What 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. What kind of logic is this? Even Sachin and pointing look like tailenders if all you watch are highlights of them getting out 🤣🤣.

What sort of logic is this?
I mean to say that he is not willing to improve and work on his short comings. Sachin was getting out playing cover drive in Australia so he chose not play a single cover drive and scored 200. Farhan and sachin ???? LOL what sort of comparison was that actually,

Farhan is pathetic and the whole world knows his weakness as we do.
 
I mean to say that he is not willing to improve and work on his short comings. Sachin was getting out playing cover drive in Australia so he chose not play a single cover drive and scored 200. Farhan and sachin ???? LOL what sort of comparison was that actually,

Farhan is pathetic and the whole world knows his weakness as we do.
Did i say farhan is good?
 
You cannot say that even if you want to.. LOL
Thing is farhan was a domestic performer. He replaced sajm who failed 25 t20 games in a row.

Farhan came and failed and saim came.back and ensured Farhan's career is over.

Thays how it should be, Survival of the fittest. Too bad said rules do not apply to rizwan sahib. But khair, not gonna derail the thread bringing up Rizwan.
 
Nope... that is not true..
Brother i have comments where people are talking about how rubbish saim is for these funky no look shots and what not and how kamran ghulam is a bunny vs pace and what not.

The only valid claim is usman khan, since technique wise he's a certified gully technique.

Farhan looks big, compact and has scored runs. His footwork issues got exposed eventually however but no one noticed these issues until he played for pakistan in international recently
 
Writing someone off as "not international material" without giving them proper chances is exactly why Pakistan cricket struggles. If a player hasn’t dominated domestic cricket, they shouldn’t be in the national setup. But for those who’ve performed consistently for three seasons, they deserve at least 20 games in the same format before any conclusions are drawn.

This many won't agree, and the reason is very obvious, many don't want domestic players to succeed in the top order.

if a player is good enough to dominate domestic he should also be given a proper chance in International. But posters here like to ridicule
Those who back up domestic performers.

If you look at top perfomers around the world they all have tons of FC experience behind them.

Players at first will be sketchy due to how conditions and pitches play at home in domestic compared to when travelling abroad But that's something you adjust to as times goes on and learn different conditions and pitches and this doesn't happen just after 1 series.

Many top performers were poor when they first debuted, going by this theory of judging players after 1 series then many of those who are big names would have never had a career in international cricket.
 
He has been given chances in international Cricket twice and he hasn't impressed in any of his innings. He cannot play bounce. Even struggled in this Champions Cup on Pindi wicket against good pacers. Maybe he would do well on low bounce tracks like UAE.
 
You can judge a player if he is international material or not by looking at his ways of getting out and look at farhan's dismissals.

What 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. What kind of logic is this? Even Sachin and pointing look like tailenders if all you watch are highlights of them getting out 🤣🤣.

What sort of logic is this?
Sachin debuted in 1989 vs Pakistan and he got out on a 0 like a tailender he also got out on a 0 in his second game vs newzealand too and then did few 10' and 20' and first 50 was vs a very poor Sri lanka

Should he have been dropped and never ever played for India again after 1st series?
 
Looking at the stats, his strength clearly lies in FC and List A cricket. His T20 record, aside from one standout season, has been pretty average. You can’t judge a player’s quality based on one good season alone. Fakhar Zaman is also having a rough tournament—does that make him a bad player? It’s hard to say whether it’s poor form or something else.

Writing someone off as "not international material" without giving them proper chances is exactly why Pakistan cricket struggles. If a player hasn’t dominated domestic cricket, they shouldn’t be in the national setup. But for those who’ve performed consistently for three seasons, they deserve at least 20 games in the same format before any conclusions are drawn.
You can believe what you want. But I have seen him enough to know he won't succeed. He can't play pace which showed when selected. As I have said if you have seen enough of him you would know he will be a failure. Have you seen him bat in the t20 domestic tournament?

The comparison with fakhar is not on. It not a valid comparison at all. Fakhar has proved himself in international cricket against the very best. While Farhan struggles against the likes of Zimbabwe.

Pakistan should be giving chances to players with performance and ability. Farhan lacks the ability no matter how he performs. As I stated PCB don't see him as a Test player hence never given an opportunity for Pakistan shaheens.
 
Any chance of Sahibzada 's comeback , as a pentagon of openers have failed and some injured

Rizwan to Babar to Imam to Shafiq

Surely the team needs am experienced fella like Sahibzada
 
@Rana he is playing like there is no tomorrow

Another 100

Sahibzada Farhan scored 103* (59) against Abbottabad while playing for Peshawar in the semi final of National T20 Cup 2025
 
insane numbers in national t20 this season second on the list by average 3x 100 and 2 x 50 in 6 matches
 
People call him a hack and to be honest he kind of is one, but he definitely has way more substance than the hacks in the current squad. He's also shown some capability previously and now that the opening spot is a little more open due to Babar and Riz being goners, this is the perfect opportunity to slot him in the t20 lineup and try him out again.
 
Where have you been hiding him all these years?🤦🏻

My respect for Rana bhai increases further after knowing it was he who started this movement but unfortunately Pakistan fans let him down.
 
Not enough PSL teams to test out upcoming/fringe players vs the international starters. Especially in opening where even teams put in foreign batsmen there on top.

That’s why we need more PSL teams. It’s far too few. Even if the standard declines slightly at least it will do a better job at comparing the standard of batsmen we have. Someone performing in domestic like this should be starting in PSL at the least. It’s the next stage up from domestic.
 
Where have you been hiding him all these years?🤦🏻

My respect for Rana bhai increases further after knowing it was he who started this movement but unfortunately Pakistan fans let him down.
He has looked mediocre in every innings he has played at international level.

A tape-ball tulla like Hassan Nawaz has looked better, so that says everything really.
 
I guess these numbers deserve to be noticed though I don’t have much hope for him but no harm in giving him one more go maybe he has tuned something right
 
You can’t argue with these mind-boggling numbers, but this is the same level of bowling that makes awful batsmen like Haris, Usman and Hasan look good.
 
I wonder why he is not in the T20 squad of Pakistan with such stellar numbers


Some people say domestic stats aren’t reliable—at least when it’s a player they don’t like.

Farhan’s smashed 39 sixes this season, more than the next 7–8 guys combined. He’s also the top scorer this season with a 190 strike rate and 3 centuries, after topping last season at 178.

He gets three games against Australia, is told to go hard in the Powerplay, does exactly that but fails, and then gets dropped—never mind that our batters usually struggle in Australia.

With numbers like his, I’d have given him at least 15 T20Is before even thinking about making a call.

CC: @khyberlion
 
Farhan is making his case strong. I think he should be given another run in place of tulla shows. Upcoming series is at home and if he is doing such damage at home then why not give him a chance in these conditions to see if he really has improved anything...

I would pick him for sure for the Bangladesh series..
 
Farhan is making his case strong. I think he should be given another run in place of tulla shows. Upcoming series is at home and if he is doing such damage at home then why not give him a chance in these conditions to see if he really has improved anything...

I would pick him for sure for the Bangladesh series..
Bhai imran butt is the 2nd highest scorer 🤣🤣. He's smashing rahat ali 😭😭.

Farhan is a test cricketer only. Of your want him to open in tests then I'm fine with it since I'd prefer him over imam, Abdullah or hurraira.

Abdullah and Hurraira are inexperienced and clearly have zero clue on how to play test cricket. They don't have the techniques to survive and Imam before his international debut averaged 35 in fc. He boosted it during that fraud ramiz raja era where babar avg 70 but Brooks avg 151, usman khawaja avg 105 etc etc.

Farhan has a solid backfoot, and a solid defense hence he can block and deal with short pitched bowling in test. He'd actually be pretty good in swinging conditons, just not good on rank turners but it's okay as sena stays away from it, Sri Lanka bowling is poor and pakistan doesn't play vs India.

But farhan is not an odi and t20 cricketer. Neither is omair bin yousaf. Omair can play tests but he needs to boost his avg upto 40. Atm kamran ghulam and Saud shakeel are better test cricketers then he is.
 
I like the scoop he is playing now and that shows me the guy is willing to work on his game and add extra shots to his locker

I wish he was playing in the PSL and we could see where he is at now
 
Former Pakistan captain Rashid Latif believes the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should have given Sahibzada Farhan more opportunities considering his consistent performances in domestic cricket, he said:

“When you have to bring new players to the team and yet saying that Hasan would go ahead because he scored a century, it’s not like that. You would have some other players as well,”

“Like if I compare him with Sahibzada Farhan. He must know how to play that is why he has been the top performer in domestic T20 tournaments. You cannot compare 2000 runs with 200."

“So, PCB should give chances to those who are performing. He (Farhan) indeed got a chance but I believe he should have gotten more opportunities.”
 
Do not blindly believe domestic stats.

A batsman in todays age needs to be judged on if he can pick actual fast bowlers early, get into hitting positions, and smash them at will.

We saw what Farhan did vs. actual pace, where he was a sitting duck. Main issue is pace hurries him and he cannot time his shots, he’s tooo late!

He cannot put bat on ball when the ball is coming in at 138+ kph pace. He doesn’t have the reflexes to judge and hit pace.

If Farhan can show evidence of timing 140+ fast bowlers perfectly in scoring shots and hitting them at will, he can be given another chance.

He faced no proper bowler in this tournament.
 
Do not blindly believe domestic stats.

A batsman in todays age needs to be judged on if he can pick actual fast bowlers early, get into hitting positions, and smash them at will.

We saw what Farhan did vs. actual pace, where he was a sitting duck. Main issue is pace hurries him and he cannot time his shots, he’s tooo late!

He cannot put bat on ball when the ball is coming in at 138+ kph pace. He doesn’t have the reflexes to judge and hit pace.

If Farhan can show evidence of timing 140+ fast bowlers perfectly in scoring shots and hitting them at will, he can be given another chance.

He faced no proper bowler in this tournament.

The flaw in this circular argument—claiming that "he faced no proper bowler in this tournament"—is that every batter in the same tournament played against the same mediocre bowling, not prime Glenn McGrath, yet most of them performed terribly.

Take Maaz Sadaqat, for instance. I keep hearing he's the next ABD, yet he's averaging just 28 with a strike rate of 121—against these so-called "no proper bowlers."

Meanwhile, the guy has smashed 39 sixes in six games, scored three centuries in six matches, and we're getting entire essays on why he shouldn’t be selected. Give us a break. Yes, he didn’t open well in high risk role in SENA, but how many have??
 
The flaw in this circular argument—claiming that "he faced no proper bowler in this tournament"—is that every batter in the same tournament played against the same mediocre bowling, not prime Glenn McGrath, yet most of them performed terribly.

Take Maaz Sadaqat, for instance. I keep hearing he's the next ABD, yet he's averaging just 28 with a strike rate of 121—against these so-called "no proper bowlers."

Meanwhile, the guy has smashed 39 sixes in six games, scored three centuries in six matches, and we're getting entire essays on why he shouldn’t be selected. Give us a break. Yes, he didn’t open well in high risk role in SENA, but how many have??
Imran Butt ex Pakistan Test opener with a 120 sr

If the tournament is so easy, why didn’t this guy also strike at 170+?
 
Who said maaz is next abd??
The flaw in this circular argument—claiming that "he faced no proper bowler in this tournament"—is that every batter in the same tournament played against the same mediocre bowling, not prime Glenn McGrath, yet most of them performed terribly.

Take Maaz Sadaqat, for instance. I keep hearing he's the next ABD, yet he's averaging just 28 with a strike rate of 121—against these so-called "no proper bowlers."

Meanwhile, the guy has smashed 39 sixes in six games, scored three centuries in six matches, and we're getting entire essays on why he shouldn’t be selected. Give us a break. Yes, he didn’t open well in high risk role in SENA, but how many have??
 
The flaw in this circular argument—claiming that "he faced no proper bowler in this tournament"—is that every batter in the same tournament played against the same mediocre bowling, not prime Glenn McGrath, yet most of them performed terribly.

Take Maaz Sadaqat, for instance. I keep hearing he's the next ABD, yet he's averaging just 28 with a strike rate of 121—against these so-called "no proper bowlers."

Meanwhile, the guy has smashed 39 sixes in six games, scored three centuries in six matches, and we're getting entire essays on why he shouldn’t be selected. Give us a break. Yes, he didn’t open well in high risk role in SENA, but how many have??

Even the best strikers of pace bowling can end up not scoring much against these types of bowlers.

I’m not comparing stats of these batters. I already said I don’t care about domestic stats.

If there’s another batsman in the same tournament who has strong reflexes against 140kph+ bowlers, can judge length of such bowlers early and smash them with good timing, even if he is averaging 15 in this T20 cup I will pick him for the national team.

Focus.

I want batters who are comfortable vs express pace — the kind when Umar Akmal first came on to the scene, the type of young Aussie batters who thrive against pace bowlers.

This is the only recipe for success in today’s white ball cricket. Pack your team with strikers of express pace bowling!!

Then there should be a couple of spin bashers too or those who can balance pace hitting and spin hitting.

@Rana I hope you’re getting what I’m trying to say.
 
Farhan might do well in the subcontinent. He should be given run against Bangladesh and let's see. His performance can't be ignored. 3 centuries in 6 games and 2 50s also, this is no joke.

Farhan will struggle against pace and bounce in SENA for sure but his form in Pakistan is good. Asia cup and world cup is gonna be played in sub-continent and Farhan can be tested for those events in the Bangladesh series.
 
Even the best strikers of pace bowling can end up not scoring much against these types of bowlers.

I’m not comparing stats of these batters. I already said I don’t care about domestic stats.

If there’s another batsman in the same tournament who has strong reflexes against 140kph+ bowlers, can judge length of such bowlers early and smash them with good timing, even if he is averaging 15 in this T20 cup I will pick him for the national team.

Focus.

I want batters who are comfortable vs express pace — the kind when Umar Akmal first came on to the scene, the type of young Aussie batters who thrive against pace bowlers.

This is the only recipe for success in today’s white ball cricket. Pack your team with strikers of express pace bowling!!

Then there should be a couple of spin bashers too or those who can balance pace hitting and spin hitting.

@Rana I hope you’re getting what I’m trying to say.
Show me the data. What domestic cricket stats support your conclusion?

Can you provide performance data for all domestic batters including SFarhan against 140 kph+ in this and the previous season to prove there are better alternatives?

Or do you have no data and are just making this up?

Keep it short—just the data.
 
Farhan might do well in the subcontinent. He should be given run against Bangladesh and let's see. His performance can't be ignored. 3 centuries in 6 games and 2 50s also, this is no joke.

Farhan will struggle against pace and bounce in SENA for sure but his form in Pakistan is good. Asia cup and world cup is gonna be played in sub-continent and Farhan can be tested for those events in the Bangladesh series.
Makes sense ...
 
ISLAMABAD UNITED REWARDS DOMESTIC PERFORMER SAHIBZADA FARHAN WITH A PSL CONTRACT

Islamabad United, the most successful franchise in HBL PSL history, continues to recognize and reward top performers from Pakistan’s domestic circuit. We are pleased to announce Sahibzada Farhan as our 20th squad member for HBL PSL X.

Sahibzada’s PSL journey began with Islamabad United in 2018 when he joined the franchise as an emerging player. He played a key role in helping United lift its second PSL title. His standout performances in the recent National T20 Cup & overall domestic form have earned him a PSL contract with us.

Head Coach Mike Hesson welcomed Sahibzada’s addition to the squad:
“We’re always looking to build a strong squad with players who are match-ready. Sahibzada’s domestic form and experience make him someone who can slot into the XI whenever required.”

Speaking on his return to Islamabad United, Sahibzada Farhan said:

“Islamabad United gave me my breakthrough in the PSL, and I’ll always be grateful for that. I’m a team player — I’ll be ready to contribute on the field whenever asked, and off the field, I’ll do everything I can to support the squad.”

With a blend of talent, humility, and hunger for success, Sahibzada embodies Islamabad United’s values. We’re thrilled to have him back in red.
 
ISLAMABAD UNITED REWARDS DOMESTIC PERFORMER SAHIBZADA FARHAN WITH A PSL CONTRACT

Islamabad United, the most successful franchise in HBL PSL history, continues to recognize and reward top performers from Pakistan’s domestic circuit. We are pleased to announce Sahibzada Farhan as our 20th squad member for HBL PSL X.

Sahibzada’s PSL journey began with Islamabad United in 2018 when he joined the franchise as an emerging player. He played a key role in helping United lift its second PSL title. His standout performances in the recent National T20 Cup & overall domestic form have earned him a PSL contract with us.

Head Coach Mike Hesson welcomed Sahibzada’s addition to the squad:
“We’re always looking to build a strong squad with players who are match-ready. Sahibzada’s domestic form and experience make him someone who can slot into the XI whenever required.”

Speaking on his return to Islamabad United, Sahibzada Farhan said:

“Islamabad United gave me my breakthrough in the PSL, and I’ll always be grateful for that. I’m a team player — I’ll be ready to contribute on the field whenever asked, and off the field, I’ll do everything I can to support the squad.”

With a blend of talent, humility, and hunger for success, Sahibzada embodies Islamabad United’s values. We’re thrilled to have him back in red.
Zindabad United

Respect!
 
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Farhan
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Agha
Shadab
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Ghous

Are you dizzy bruv??
 
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