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[VIDEOS] Justice for Sahibzada Farhan: what did he do wrong?

Tanvir Ahmed speaking on his Youtube channel:

“He (Sahibzada Farhan) has already scored 3 centuries in domestic T20 matches and scored another century in the PSL. Despite his immense talent, blatant injustices are being done to him. This is the same Sahibzada Farhan who was forced to bat at the fifth or sixth position during Pakistan's last tour of New Zealand. Later, he was dismissed as untalented and not worthy of being in the team. Meanwhile, players like Hasan Nawaz and others, who get selected through favoritism, are given more opportunities.”

“Farhan is a player with extraordinary talent; even commentators highly praise him. But the problem is, he has no backing. When he gets selected in the Pakistan team, he is placed at the wrong batting positions, and then given just a few matches before being sent home. If other players get continuous chances, then why not him? He deserves to be in the team 100%.”

“If they don't want to pick him, they'll probably justify it by saying he isn’t a good fielder or lacks some other skill. Because in this country, nothing gets done without favoritism and influence. Unfortunately, Farhan doesn’t have someone to advocate for him, but, he has shut everyone up with his performance and exposed the injustice done to him.”
 
saw part of his century knock in PSL ... wondered why stat-paddlers were preferred over him in internationals .
 
Pcb keeps making the mistake of playing players in the wrong format simply to appease babar and rizwan.

Test

1) Saim Ayub
2) Azan Awais
3) Farhan (i think 3 should suit him in test cricket, time to move on from Shan)
4) Kamran Ghulam
5) Saud shakeel
6) Salman Ali Agha (c)
7) Muhammad Rizwan
8) Sajid Khan/ Pacer(Depends on conditions)
9) Noman Ali/ Pacer(depends on conditons)
10-11) ????

^^ This should be our test team
 
The issue with Farhan is where do you fit him? His competiton is fakhar and saim. Fakhar is nearly done tbf, but still has some gas left while Saim is rusty but is young and can come back.

Farhan easily slots in test though. Need to remove useless Abdullah and make farhan our full time test opener.
 
Pakistan is nicely building up to a fine T20 team in asian conditions if the team management can be little smart and back certain pkayers till Asia Cup.

Saim and Farhan can open, Fakhar and Haris can come in the mi
 
mominsaigol said:
The issue with Farhan is where do you fit him? His competiton is fakhar and saim. Fakhar is nearly done tbf, but still has some gas left while Saim is rusty but is young and can come back.

Farhan easily slots in test though. Need to remove useless Abdullah and make farhan our full time test opener.
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Fakhar has never been as good a T20 player as he is an ODI player. I think at the moment Farhan deserves a 5-10 match run as a T20 opener. He has earned it and seems to be in the form of his life and it would be a travesty if he is not given a chance now. As for Fakhar, given our middle order woes, might not be a bad idea to try him a little lower down the order.
 
deep82 said:
Pakistan is nicely building up to a fine T20 team in asian conditions if the team management can be little smart and back certain pkayers till Asia Cup.

Saim and Farhan can open, Fakhar and Haris can come in the mi
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Fine team? Pakistan unfortunately has a major dearth of ability and anyone who thinks a few performances at the domestic level will make them into world beaters has clearly learnt nothing.
 
deep82 said:
Pakistan is nicely building up to a fine T20 team in asian conditions if the team management can be little smart and back certain pkayers till Asia Cup.

Saim and Farhan can open, Fakhar and Haris can come in the mi
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Just realized I didn't complete it fully...

Saim and Farhan to open
Fakhar and Haris middle order enforcer
Agha, Shadab and Samad- Finishers or late order enforcers

Just back these seven guys as top 7 for all remaining T20s before the Asia cup and they will get good experience at their positions before the big event.

Saim- can bowl
Farhan
Fakhar
Haris
Agha- can bowl
Shadab- can bowl
Samad

Don't back players like Babar-Rizwan (done & dusted), Tayab, Usman, Ghulam, Nawaz ( ugly techniques, doesn't belong to international cricket), Irfan Niazi (failed to impress) and Saud Shakeel ( not suitable for T20s)

Backuaps can be player like Haider Ali ( in a new middle order role), Abdullah ( backup top order ) and Khushdil Shah ( utility player)
 
deep82 said:
Just realized I didn't complete it fully...

Saim and Farhan to open
Fakhar and Haris middle order enforcer
Agha, Shadab and Samad- Finishers or late order enforcers

Just back these seven guys as top 7 for all remaining T20s before the Asia cup and they will get good experience at their positions before the big event.

Saim- can bowl
Farhan
Fakhar
Haris
Agha- can bowl
Shadab- can bowl
Samad

Don't back players like Babar-Rizwan (done & dusted), Tayab, Usman, Ghulam, Nawaz ( ugly techniques, doesn't belong to international cricket), Irfan Niazi (failed to impress) and Saud Shakeel ( not suitable for T20s)

Backuaps can be player like Haider Ali ( in a new middle order role), Abdullah ( backup top order ) and Khushdil Shah ( utility player)
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Shadab should be at 8. That’s his best position. I think Haider should be in there at 5 or 6 after Agha, and I would personally back Khushdil instead of Samad…Khushi is an alright player and Samad is hit and miss.
 
bones said:
Fine team? Pakistan unfortunately has a major dearth of ability and anyone who thinks a few performances at the domestic level will make them into world beaters has clearly learnt nothing.
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Please check my above message.

Pakistan can be a good T20 team provided they find ideal players for the modern T20 cricket. This doesn't mean the chosen players will set the world on fire but atleast the first step is right.

Don't select ugly hacks for starters-pick players instead who can play with reasonably high strike rate.
Don't select stat padders or players who are unsuitable for T20 cricket.

Once you identify players who can hit clean, rotate strike and don't resort to ugly leg side hacking- you have a core. Now back these players up and ask them to further improve and innovate their game.

Pakistan have around 15 T20 before asia cup. Sufficent game time for the right players. But if they go back to Babar-Rizwan or the ugly hacks, all these games will be wasted once again.
 
Rana said:
Shadab should be at 8. That’s his best position. I think Haider should be in there at 5 or 6 after Agha, and I would personally back Khushdil instead of Samad…Khushi is an alright player and Samad is hit and miss.
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Modern T20 Team need batting till no. 8 and six bowling options. Also atleast 3 pacers ( unless you play in extreme spin conditions). Flexibility is key in T20. No rigid team ( batting heavy or bowling heavy) can win the tournament.

Pakistan doesn't have any fast bowling allrounder of note. Ideally No.8 can be a fast bowler who can bat reasonably ( atleast Jansen level). Shadab can be swapped to bat at No. 8 in that case. But Pakistan don't have anyone. They will have to compromise with the batting or pick a spin heavy side. Or put a bits piece player like Faheem ( which will again be a mistake)

If its extreme spin or slow conditions , Pakistan can play this team and be very competitive. But not sure on flat tracks though.

Saim
Farhan
Fakhar
Haris
Agha
Haider
Khushdil
Shadab
Abbas
Naseem
Abrar
 
deep82 said:
Farhan
Fakhar
Haris
Agha
Haider
Khushdil
Shadab
Abbas
Naseem
Abrar
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This is a good team but I think you are definitely a seamer short

Shaheen and Rauf are not really liked these days but they are good bowlers. You should have a left arm seamer in your team regardless, they are a prime necessity in modern T20 cricket too.

My 3 seamers would be Shaheen, Rauf and Abbas. I feel Naseem is forced in and doesn’t add much utility with his poor fielding and wholesome batting.

With Rauf you know you have a safe fielder, good death bowler and not a bad middle overs enforcer

With Shaheen you carry the threat of taking wickets early when he’s on song

Abbas hasn’t been a good bowler of late but he adds value with his batting and fielding

Abrar is the only weak link with poor fielding and pathetic batting, but he’s a solid bowler for the powerplay or through the middle.

Shadab will be Shadab. He’s either a liability or a match winner.
 
Rana said:
This is a good team but I think you are definitely a seamer short

Shaheen and Rauf are not really liked these days but they are good bowlers. You should have a left arm seamer in your team regardless, they are a prime necessity in modern T20 cricket too.

My 3 seamers would be Shaheen, Rauf and Abbas. I feel Naseem is forced in and doesn’t add much utility with his poor fielding and wholesome batting.

With Rauf you know you have a safe fielder, good death bowler and not a bad middle overs enforcer

With Shaheen you carry the threat of taking wickets early when he’s on song

Abbas hasn’t been a good bowler of late but he adds value with his batting and fielding

Abrar is the only weak link with poor fielding and pathetic batting, but he’s a solid bowler for the powerplay or through the middle.

Shadab will be Shadab. He’s either a liability or a match winner.
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You have a good team but a team that bats only till No. 7 and also a No. 7 who is unproven ( Shadab or Khusdil). That will mean collpase can happen frequently. But yes on principle, if you don't have allrounders then play specialists and hope everyone does well on their primary skill.

Going by your take on fast bowling, I will go batting heavy till 7 and hope Agha and Saim cover up 4 overs.

Saim
Farhan
Fakhar
Haris
Agha
Haider
Samad
Abbas
Afridi
Rauf
Abrar
 
khyberlion said:
There is something called domestic bullies which he has proven to be whenever given a chance. I am by no mens against him having a go. I am just pointing out his flaws which he clearly hasn't worked on since coming on to the domestic circuit and will continue to struggle. Age is also not of his side for him to go back and work on.

Why are you ignoring the fact he has struggled against pace at domestic level same is the case with Kamran Ghulam? Maybe you haven't seen him as much but I have seen quite a bit of him. Playing pace at international level is different than playing our domestic bowlers where musa Khan is taking truck loads of wickets.
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@khyberlion I wanted to check-in on this. Are you sticking with what you said.
 
He has got his chance now... He cannot botch it... Home conditions and the opposition is not that strong also... There is literally no excuse left for farhan to fail.
 
He is in great form but he can improve further if he works on short balls and footwork against spin.
 
Mamoon said:
If he can’t score against this attack on this pitch he should probably retire.
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The problem is you don’t understand what ‘scoring’ means in T20.

Scoring 33 off 45 against Bumrah, Siraj and Arshdeep isn’t ‘scoring’ runs
 
People keep saying Pakistan cricket will fall apart if a certain player is rested or retires—but that myth has been proven wrong time and again.

It was clear some players were just along for the ride.

Pakistan cricket is at its strongest when it plays with freedom—bold, aggressive, and totally fearless.
 
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Farabi said:
People keep saying Pakistan cricket will fall apart if a certain player is rested or retires—but that myth has been proven wrong time and again.

It was clear some players were just along for the ride.

Pakistan cricket is at its strongest when it plays with freedom—bold, aggressive, and totally fearless.
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It’s no coincidence that they are both freshies as well.
 
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Farabi said:
People keep saying Pakistan cricket will fall apart if a certain player is rested or retires—but that myth has been proven wrong time and again.

It was clear some players were just along for the ride.

Pakistan cricket is at its strongest when it plays with freedom—bold, aggressive, and totally fearless.
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People said the same thing after Misbah retired many believed Pakistan would struggle to even post 250+ runs in ODIs without him.

I even made a thread on it back then and updating every time Pakistan went past 250
 
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Rana said:
It’s no coincidence that they are both freshies as well.ol
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Lol, I still remember watching Afridi’s debut live in ’96—smashing a century off just 36 balls in 1996! Imagine what the dressing room would have been like back then for this to have been possible.

Back then, we had openers like Amir Sohail, Saeed Anwar, and Imran Nazir—guys who were ahead of their time.

Pause annd think about it. Amir Sohail and Saeed Anwar put on a fiery 84-run opening stand of 59 balls in the 1996 World Cup quarter-final against India in their backyard. Yes we lost, but there was an attitude to the way Pak cricket was played. It was up and down but never timid as it had become lately.

The middle order had Inzi and Ijaz Ahmed, both aggressive and always looking to take the fight to the opposition.
 
emranabbas said:
People said the same thing after Misbah retired many believed Pakistan would struggle to even post 250+ runs in ODIs without him.

I even made a thread on it back then and updating every time Pakistan went past 250
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Yup! Shahid Afirdi even said there is “no talent in Pakistan”. Misbah always blamed other batters and always implied in press conferences that there is no talent.
After they retired in 2016, all of a sudden Pakistani T20 team shot up in rankings from bottom to no1 and Pakistan also looked liked a better ODI team clinching the Champions Trophy.
 
gazza619 said:
Tanveer made his Pakistan debut when he was right at the end of his career. He was still bowling in the mid 130 kph zone with a tight line and length. He was also a good tail end batter. He had a good start to his test career and then was sidelined as he was not a yes man.

The problem is that people like you form opinion based on watching youtube highlights.
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He got sidelined because he was clearly a chawwal
 
It was criminal to not play farhn in the first t20 but anyway, boy came an boy played a knock that we all expected from him to play.

Farhan should play all games no matter if you have to rest shadab, khushdil, saim etc.
 
BouncerGuy said:
It was criminal to not play farhn in the first t20 but anyway, boy came an boy played a knock that we all expected from him to play.

Farhan should play all games no matter if you have to rest shadab, khushdil, saim etc.
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He was dropped thrice. Any decent fielding team would have sent him back to dressing room on zero.
 
cricketmania22 said:
He was dropped thrice. Any decent fielding team would have sent him back to dressing room on zero.
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He has been topping the charts of batting with a high strike rate for a long time... He deserves a chance at his preferred number...

Cashing in on your chances is what a good player do...
 
He is good for now and we can keep him but I don’t think he can consistently play good innings against quality teams. He is not made for International cricket as he clearly struggled against high bounce and revved up spin bowling which is a norm in International cricket.
 
I can’t see him lasting against Afg spinners even on batting wickets and anything over 140k with high bounce then he has no answer for it even on flat tracks. Very limited minnow basher type player and his age is not on his side as well.
 
Ahmed216 said:
You are the same guy who accused Babar and Rizwan of performing against poor sides.
Definition of a hypocrite
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Performing?

Scoring 40 ball 50s isn’t ‘performing’.

Your making it sound as if Babar and Rizwan hit 20 ball 70s against Namibia and Scotland
 
Rana said:
Performing?

Scoring 40 ball 50s isn’t ‘performing’.

Your making it sound as if Babar and Rizwan hit 20 ball 70s against Namibia and Scotland
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Farhan probably hit more sixes in one t20 game when Babar and rizwan ever did in an entire t20 3 match series
 
mominsaigol said:
Farhan probably hit more sixes in one t20 game when Babar and rizwan ever did in an entire t20 3 match series
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Exactly. These clowns making it sound as if Babar and Rizwan batted like Gayle and Watson against lower sides in the powerplay
 
Rana said:
Exactly. These clowns making it sound as if Babar and Rizwan batted like Gayle and Watson against lower sides in the powerplay
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Tbf babar has been aggressive atleast against minnows when he was at his best.

He does have a 49 ball 100 in t20 and he did bash Ireland. Issue is all that was achieved on a quick outfield and back when rubbish bowlers kept allowing his to spam that cover drive for 4.

His best 100 comes with very few sixes actually being hit in that innings. He is damn near useless otherwise since he cant clear the ropes and isnt willing to loft.

Ba/Riz cant loft. Rizwan's idea of lofting is hoicking lol.
 
I think Farhan would be minnow basher.

He needs bad balls and drop catches to score big.
 
hks222 said:
I think Farhan would be minnow basher.

He needs bad balls and drop catches to score big.
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How can you judge him without playing against top team . Wait for atleast Two series against Australia/ England/ NZ/ South Africa to pass the Judgment.
:kp
 
Farabi said:
People keep saying Pakistan cricket will fall apart if a certain player is rested or retires—but that myth has been proven wrong time and again.

It was clear some players were just along for the ride.

Pakistan cricket is at its strongest when it plays with freedom—bold, aggressive, and totally fearless.
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And this is based on T20 series vs Bangladesh B? This is why the world laughs at Pakistani fans.

It’s funny how we are all supposed to forget that this new batch of so-called intent merchants got hammered by New Zealand B not long ago.
 
Mamoon said:
And this is based on T20 series vs Bangladesh B? This is why the world laughs at Pakistani fans.

It’s funny how we are all supposed to forget that this new batch of so-called intent merchants got hammered by New Zealand B not long ago.
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But Pakistan old batch of Babar / Rizwan had lost the series (2023-24) against NZ in NZ at the same margin (4-1)


Let's give them more time because babar / Rizwan already played too many ICC T20 events without winning it .

:kp
 
Mamoon said:
And this is based on T20 series vs Bangladesh B? This is why the world laughs at Pakistani fans.

It’s funny how we are all supposed to forget that this new batch of so-called intent merchants got hammered by New Zealand B not long ago.
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Pakistan at full strength(or your idea of it atleast) got hammered 3x in their own den in consecutive fashion vs NZ, this was all with

Fakhar, Babar, Saud, Rizwan, Agha, Shaheen etc etc playing in the same lineup. The only person missing was saim ayub who atm is out of form anyway and wouldn't have made a difference.

Don't leave out this metric in order to carry out a personal agenda. Youre acting as if pakistan was mauling NZ before these newbies showed up.

You wanna know what these newbies managed to achieve in which case ba/riz didn't? They actually manged to win once in the opponents den.
 
Sahibzada deserved his chance but only Saim and Hasan have real potential. Saim is struggling atm but that will pass and he will bring runs and dynamism and Hasan has real power.
 
I don't think he will be good against quality bowling sides.he can hit the bad deliveries but am not sure whether he can score of quality bowling or dominate the good ones especially away.his batting reminds me a lot of shoiab malik who can cash on weak bowling units but will do nothing against good ones.
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan at full strength(or your idea of it atleast) got hammered 3x in their own den in consecutive fashion vs NZ, this was all with

Fakhar, Babar, Saud, Rizwan, Agha, Shaheen etc etc playing in the same lineup. The only person missing was saim ayub who atm is out of form anyway and wouldn't have made a difference.

Don't leave out this metric in order to carry out a personal agenda. Youre acting as if pakistan was mauling NZ before these newbies showed up.

You wanna know what these newbies managed to achieve in which case ba/riz didn't? They actually manged to win once in the opponents den.
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Devadwal said:
But Pakistan old batch of Babar / Rizwan had lost the series (2023-24) against NZ in NZ at the same margin (4-1)


Let's give them more time because babar / Rizwan already played too many ICC T20 events without winning it .

:kp
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Babar and Rizwan have mauled India in a World Cup, something no previous self-appointed legend of Pakistan cricket managed to achieve.

This feat alone is going to be bigger than the entire careers of most of these intent merchants who are the talk of the town based on one series vs Bangladesh B.

If they also got hammered in New Zealand like Babar and Rizwan, then there is no need of hyping them up.

I acknowledge the fact that Pakistan’s results vs the top sides were not good under Babar and Rizwan, so unless and until these intent merchants prove that they have the chops to beat the top sides, there is no need to hyping them and making them sit on our heads.

Intent and style of play don’t matter. Results do, and so far, there is no improvement in results if the New Zealand series is any indication.

However, like I said in the other thread yesterday, Pakistan have several T20Is scheduled against good opposition in the next 12 months and these matches will unfold everything.

If they can prove that their intent gets them over the line against good teams, fair play to them. No one would vouch for Babar and Rizwan to return to the T20I side at least.
 
Mamoon said:
Babar and Rizwan have mauled India in a World Cup, something no previous self-appointed legend of Pakistan cricket managed to achieve.

This feat alone is going to be bigger than the entire careers of most of these intent merchants who are the talk of the town based on one series vs Bangladesh B.

If they also got hammered in New Zealand like Babar and Rizwan, then there is no need of hyping them up.

I acknowledge the fact that Pakistan’s results vs the top sides were not good under Babar and Rizwan, so unless and until these intent merchants prove that they have the chops to beat the top sides, there is no need to hyping them and making them sit on our heads.

Intent and style of play don’t matter. Results do, and so far, there is no improvement in results if the New Zealand series is any indication.

However, like I said in the other thread yesterday, Pakistan have several T20Is scheduled against good opposition in the next 12 months and these matches will unfold everything.

If they can prove that their intent gets them over the line against good teams, fair play to them. No one would vouch for Babar and Rizwan to return to the T20I side at least.
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What someone does in the past is irrelevant.

Fakhar Zaman and Amir have mauled India in the past as well but I wouldn't vouch for Amir as his current self.

As for Fakhar I love fakhar fir his insane match hitting wonders in odi, but I would not advocate for him to play for more then 2-3 years due to his age.

2021 was a different era, Babar and Rizwan for all their credit were actually good in that era.

Babar from 2016-2021 may have been an accumulator but he was consistently getting centuries, consistently contributing, consistently getting wins. Rizwan deapite being medicore for most of his career was actually avg 70 in t20 as an opener in 2021 and had a freak purple patch.

Irrespective of the SR its impressive what he achieved in 2021 in t20.

However this is not 2021 anymore. Babar has been a downright tragedy in all formats this year. His best performances have only cone in odi in which case he's atleast scoring half centuries but in t20 and test hes been a failure.

Rizwan has played some of the worst t20 innings of all time since he was appointed captain.

Hes only been decent in odi and test where despite the criticism he did score a century against sa and in tests hes been avg 40 which is good enough for a keeper.

Both of their forms have been downright awful in t20 and they warranted a drop. The current crop have still been performing better then Ba/Riz with the exception of saim ayub post injury, however pre injury he was outperforming both of them in odi and t20.

Hasan nawaz despite failing 4 t20's as a debutant still managed a 100 of 44 in NZ's own den something which is beyond ba/riz caliber. Salman Ali Agha has also been comfortably better then both babar and rizwan in test and odi.

Hes been equally as poor as rizzu in 2025 in t20 however they went with him as captain due to bowling and more flexibility in shuffling down the order something rizzu wasnt willing to do.
 
Mamoon said:
Babar and Rizwan have mauled India in a World Cup, something no previous self-appointed legend of Pakistan cricket managed to achieve.

This feat alone is going to be bigger than the entire careers of most of these intent merchants who are the talk of the town based on one series vs Bangladesh B.

If they also got hammered in New Zealand like Babar and Rizwan, then there is no need of hyping them up.

I acknowledge the fact that Pakistan’s results vs the top sides were not good under Babar and Rizwan, so unless and until these intent merchants prove that they have the chops to beat the top sides, there is no need to hyping them and making them sit on our heads.

Intent and style of play don’t matter. Results do, and so far, there is no improvement in results if the New Zealand series is any indication.

However, like I said in the other thread yesterday, Pakistan have several T20Is scheduled against good opposition in the next 12 months and these matches will unfold everything.

If they can prove that their intent gets them over the line against good teams, fair play to them. No one would vouch for Babar and Rizwan to return to the T20I side at least.
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Pakistan only won a single ICC World T20 match against India after so many attempts.

Babar/ Rizwan legacy is that they lost the world T20 match against part timers cricketers of USA. They can't even chase 120 against India. Lol

So whats the problem if youngsters are getting the chance? They are the future of Pakistan unlike Riz/ babar in T20 cricket.

I'm not saying they will succeed or not but they deserve the chance now instead Babar/ rizwan .

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
How can you judge him without playing against top team . Wait for atleast Two series against Australia/ England/ NZ/ South Africa to pass the Judgment.
:kp
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I've seen him play in PSL and domestic against relatively better bowlers.
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan only won a single ICC World T20 match against India after so many attempts.

Babar/ Rizwan legacy is that they lost the world T20 match against part timers cricketers of USA. They can't even chase 120 against India. Lol

So whats the problem if youngsters are getting the chance? They are the future of Pakistan unlike Riz/ babar in T20 cricket.

I'm not saying they will succeed or not but they deserve the chance now instead Babar/ rizwan .

:kp
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That NY wicket was dreadful to bat - stop selling a narrative before having proper background knowledge.

But knowledge and indians don't go hand in hand.
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan only won a single ICC World T20 match against India after so many attempts.

Babar/ Rizwan legacy is that they lost the world T20 match against part timers cricketers of USA. They can't even chase 120 against India. Lol

So whats the problem if youngsters are getting the chance? They are the future of Pakistan unlike Riz/ babar in T20 cricket.

I'm not saying they will succeed or not but they deserve the chance now instead Babar/ rizwan .

:kp
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Secondly - Babar/Rizwan didn't ask Amir to bowl filth vs USA.
 
Vikram1989 said:
I don't think he will be good against quality bowling sides.he can hit the bad deliveries but am not sure whether he can score of quality bowling or dominate the good ones especially away.his batting reminds me a lot of shoiab malik who can cash on weak bowling units but will do nothing against good ones.
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Agreed with your point - probably because you are actually watching the game unlike some others here.
 
hks222 said:
That NY wicket was dreadful to bat - stop selling a narrative before having proper background knowledge.

But knowledge and indians don't go hand in hand.
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It was not a minefield to not chase the 120.

Ok what about Asia Cup 228 run humiliation loss against India ? Was that also a minefield.

Or losing the World Cup match against Afghanistan?

:kp
 
BouncerGuy said:
He has been topping the charts of batting with a high strike rate for a long time... He deserves a chance at his preferred number...

Cashing in on your chances is what a good player do...
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Well against good teams you’re not going to get so many chances. Let’s see what he does in upcoming tours. I don’t believe he’s cut for international cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
And this is based on T20 series vs Bangladesh B? This is why the world laughs at Pakistani fans.

It’s funny how we are all supposed to forget that this new batch of so-called intent merchants got hammered by New Zealand B not long ago.
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Totally fair — no one’s saying crown them kings just yet. But come on, give credit where it’s due. The trend is clearly upward. Pakistan hadn’t crossed 200 in the 50 T20s prior to Agha’s captaincy and the RizBabar exit. Since then? We’ve done it 3 times in 7 games.

You can keep the praise measured, sure, but don’t act like 200+ scores were routine — we couldn’t even manage it against the USA, Zimbabwe, and yes, even Bangladesh.

I actually appreciate your posts — you’ve got great insight. But we’ve got to be honest: the attachment to Rizwan and Babar as T20 players needs a serious rethink. Mike Hesson (not exactly part of any Pakistani hype machine or Rana’s best friend) literally said both “need to improve their power game” to get back into the T20I side.

You’ve been open to change — like you were with Shubman Gill. So if the facts are shifting, maybe it’s time to revisit your stance here too.
 
Farhan should play every game possible. There are not many games left for pakistan this year and the big events are coming that will be played in the sub-continent, so I think Farhan can do a good job here on such pitches. He could be a walking wicket overseas.
 
Farabi said:
Totally fair — no one’s saying crown them kings just yet. But come on, give credit where it’s due. The trend is clearly upward. Pakistan hadn’t crossed 200 in the 50 T20s prior to Agha’s captaincy and the RizBabar exit. Since then? We’ve done it 3 times in 7 games.

You can keep the praise measured, sure, but don’t act like 200+ scores were routine — we couldn’t even manage it against the USA, Zimbabwe, and yes, even Bangladesh.

I actually appreciate your posts — you’ve got great insight. But we’ve got to be honest: the attachment to Rizwan and Babar as T20 players needs a serious rethink. Mike Hesson (not exactly part of any Pakistani hype machine or Rana’s best friend) literally said both “need to improve their power game” to get back into the T20I side.

You’ve been open to change — like you were with Shubman Gill. So if the facts are shifting, maybe it’s time to revisit your stance here too.
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Pakistan have scored, and chased, 200+ with Babar and Rizwan several times as well. All I am asking for is people to hold their horses and not catch like this bunch has revolutionized cricket.

Also, what did Shubman Gill do?
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan have scored, and chased, 200+ with Babar and Rizwan several times as well. All I am asking for is people to hold their horses and not catch like this bunch has revolutionized cricket.

Also, what did Shubman Gill do?
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I think we need to milk couple of years Fakhar has left in the tank as T20 middle order batter at #4 or #5

He bats well versus spin and also can use long handle versus pace at the end.
 
hks222 said:
I think we need to milk couple of years Fakhar has left in the tank as T20 middle order batter at #4 or #5

He bats well versus spin and also can use long handle versus pace at the end.
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Fakhar is one of the worst T20 openers in Pakistan history. Absolutely laughable to play him ahead of Babar or Rizwan.
 
Mamoon said:
Fakhar is one of the worst T20 openers in Pakistan history. Absolutely laughable to play him ahead of Babar or Rizwan.
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Thanks

Now I am sure he will absolutely smash it.
 
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cricketmania22 said:
Well against good teams you’re not going to get so many chances. Let’s see what he does in upcoming tours. I don’t believe he’s cut for international cricket.
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Well, so be it

Get caught taking risks in the powerplay…that’s the whole purpose isn’t it??
 
Rana said:
Thanks

Now I am sure he will absolutely smash it.
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I have been saying it for years and he continues to validate my assessment. He has no clue about opening in this format and his SR is worse than the likes of Babar and Rizwan who apparently are not fit to play this format.

Fakhar is excellent in the middle-order in T20Is and it was a masterstroke by Misbah move him down.

The clueless Aqib Javed with his Qalandars agenda messed up what was working well and made him open again and the results are there for everyone to see. I hope Hesson does the right thing and move him down again.
 
hks222 said:
He is good in middle order for t20s.

I don't like him as T20 opener
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Fakhar is one of worst T20 openers in the world but also one of the best middle-order T20 batsmen in the world, but some deluded clowns cannot see it.

A quick comparison between his numbers in both positions reveal everything.
 
Rizwan +
Ayub
Babar
Fakhar
Agha
Hassan Nawaz
Faheem
Shaheen (c)
M Wasim
Hassan Ali
Abrar

I have thought a lot about what should be Pakistan’s T20I team and I’m convinced that I have nailed it. I have no doubt in my mind that this is a very formidable outfit.

You have an aggressive and deep batting lineup where only one player (Abrar) is a mug with the bat, and there are plenty of bowling options as well.
 
Mamoon said:
Rizwan +
Ayub
Babar
Fakhar
Agha
Hassan Nawaz
Faheem
Shaheen (c)
M Wasim
Hassan Ali
Abrar

I have thought a lot about what should be Pakistan’s T20I team and I’m convinced that I have nailed it. I have no doubt in my mind that this is a very formidable outfit.

You have an aggressive and deep batting lineup where only one player (Abrar) is a mug with the bat, and there are plenty of bowling options as well.
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What a crap line up

I want to do ulti reading this team sheet!
 
cricketmania22 said:
No, your risks should pay off otherwise you are Awaiz Zia 2.0.
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What guarantee is there for “risks to pay off”? You take risks with chance of failing if it doesn’t come off. What has safe cricket achieved for Pakistan??
 
Rana said:
What guarantee is there for “risks to pay off”? You take risks with chance of failing if it doesn’t come off. What has safe cricket achieved for Pakistan??
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Guarantee is your skill set. That’s why top players score good number of runs in powerplay by taking risks. I’m not against the notion of taking risks but I believe SF doesn’t have what it takes to succeed at this level.
 
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