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[VIDEOS] Justice for Sahibzada Farhan: what did he do wrong?

He is a Johnson Charles type batter. He will always be a limited slogger but occasionally will knock good bowlers off their lengths.
 
Don't like him obviously :dhoni but he did very well vs India consistently and that's an undeniable fact for which he deserves respect from the fans.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
We have to see him how he does well on slightly bouncier, faster wickets.
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He was absolutely a clown in aus tour last year.marj waugh was laughing at his technique. Pacers were bouncing him out at their will.ecen in sharjah tri series, he was getting bowled by zero footwork. Sohail also commented that he got out in his usual style with out any footwork. Dubai sluggish wickets helped him with out any movement. But definitely he will be facing music outside of it.
 
Vikram1989 said:
He was absolutely a clown in aus tour last year.marj waugh was laughing at his technique. Pacers were bouncing him out at their will.ecen in sharjah tri series, he was getting bowled by zero footwork. Sohail also commented that he got out in his usual style with out any footwork. Dubai sluggish wickets helped him with out any movement. But definitely he will be facing music outside of it.
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Had Bumrah been his usual self in this Asia cup, he may not gone far in this Asia cup
 
Ahmed216 said:
Learn to appreciate it when the opposition player does well. Indian fans don't have to behave like their team and players are all invincible
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Learn to acknowledge that Bumrah was way below his best in this tourney.
 
MP2011 said:
Learn to acknowledge that Bumrah was way below his best in this tourney.
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There was a clear difference in the level Shaheen bowled in the first 2 games to Abhishek and then the 3rd



Don’t see you pointing that out?
 
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Rana said:
There was a clear difference in the level Shaheen bowled in the first 2 games to Abhishek and then the 3rd


Don’t see you pointing that out?
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Because Abhishek have made far better bowlers than Shaheen sweat.
 
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I don’t have a definitive opinion since yesterday was my first time observing Farhan.

What I don’t like: his feet don’t move. And that stand and deliver style doesn’t go far.

I think he may be limited in his contribution to Pakistan cricket in the longer forms. FWIW he has a FC average of 45, but then Pakistan domestic cricket is quite mediocre apparently.

However he’s pulled off an innings to remember - he certainly got into my head as an opposition fan. That performance counts for a lot, more than technique. So for now he’s aces.
 
He has poor technique.

But we have to be realistic. Most of our cricket is played in Asia. We are not at the stage where we have talented players that can play dashing innings with good technique all around the world.

Every side must cash in one more familiar conditions, build stability, build confidence and then try to spread their wings.

Pakistan cannot get ahead of themselves and think we are India, Australia or England and need players who can do it in the MCG.

We are a low tier side, working it's way up to becoming a mid tier side. Players like Farhan are needed.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
I don’t have a definitive opinion since yesterday was my first time observing Farhan.

What I don’t like: his feet don’t move. And that stand and deliver style doesn’t go far.

I think he may be limited in his contribution to Pakistan cricket in the longer forms. FWIW he has a FC average of 45, but then Pakistan domestic cricket is quite mediocre apparently.

However he’s pulled off an innings to remember - he certainly got into my head as an opposition fan. That performance counts for a lot, more than technique. So for now he’s aces.
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Pakistan cricket goes through weird phases where they either prepare green mambas or then have ultra flat wickets, either domestic is challenging, or there are so many teams and it's spread so thin that matches are probably second XI standard.

It's difficult to judge a player over their career average, need to see season by season and opposition by opposition.

You would think that someone with a FC average of 45 would be ok, but honestly you just don't know. I barely follow the FC. I look out for posters like @Markhor and others analysis. They will probably be able to tell us if 45 is really worth 45.
 
MP2011 said:
Because Abhishek have made far better bowlers than Shaheen sweat.
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And Shaheen has gotten the better of far better batsmen than Abhishek as well.

Abhishek is a nobody compared to Shaheen. Come back when he wins an ICC player of the year award.
 
Balls per six ratio of 13.25 for Pakistan

He is much more destructive than his current 125sr

He’s been a 140-150+ strike rate batter since his resurgence in the last 2 years
 
Rana said:
Balls per six ratio of 13.25 for Pakistan

He is much more destructive than his current 125sr

He’s been a 140-150+ strike rate batter since his resurgence in the last 2 years
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A very good t20 opener. Loses the plot after reaching 50. Needs to be drafted into odi and test to improve on that aspect
 
mominsaigol said:
A very good t20 opener. Loses the plot after reaching 50. Needs to be drafted into odi and test to improve on that aspect
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Bro watch this post

He will blast a 130+ score too for Pakistan.

I’ve seen this guy in domestics, he has an unreal 5th gear once he puts the foot down.
 
Rana said:
Bro watch this post

He will blast a 130+ score too for Pakistan.

I’ve seen this guy in domestics, he has an unreal 5th gear once he puts the foot down.
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For his 1st tournament he did extremely extremely well. Can become Fakhar's replacement but I don't think he's their atm
 
mominsaigol said:
For his 1st tournament he did extremely extremely well. Can become Fakhar's replacement but I don't think he's their atm
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He’s a better opener than Fakhar. Not as clutch but batsmanship wise I think he’s better

Yasir Khan should get a go too. He’s a good bludgeoner
 
He has got some power and hits them well, but poor technique, needs to work on that he will struggle in swinging conditions, but this Asia in Particular vs India he played really well and took them on, was very nice to see.

Needs to be back and persisted with but he himself needs to work on his came and consistently look to improve.
 
He obviously has issues with footwork and technique but very few Asian batsmen are perfect at the start of their careers. SRT, dravid being the exception. Younis and yousuf are the norm…players improving their technique through hard work yet never quite perfecting it.

What’s encouraging about Farhan is the desire to be positive as an opener and not be overawed by the occasion. He has quite handy first class experience which is good. You want to see players like him and Kamran Ghulam cement their places in the Odi team and make the step up to tests when the time comes. Ideally there always needs to be pressure for places. It’s how teams improve. Shan has to start worrying.
 
Mamoon said:
And Shaheen has gotten the better of far better batsmen than Abhishek as well.

Abhishek is a nobody compared to Shaheen. Come back when he wins an ICC player of the year award.
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The likes of jofra archer and Mark wood bashing on mumbai pattas is all on his credit till now.....he dropped in every Asia cup match otherwise he would have been out cheaply in every game...
 
Sahibzada Farhan is currently the only batsman to have scored 50+ runs against Jasprit Bumrah in T20Is without being dismissed.

Sahibzada Farhan vs Jasprit Bumrah
  • Balls Faced: 34
  • Runs Scored: 51
  • Strike Rate: 150.00
  • Dismissals: 0
  • Boundaries: 6 fours, 3 sixes
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Sahibzada Farhan is currently the only batsman to have scored 50+ runs against Jasprit Bumrah in T20Is without being dismissed.

Sahibzada Farhan vs Jasprit Bumrah
  • Balls Faced: 34
  • Runs Scored: 51
  • Strike Rate: 150.00
  • Dismissals: 0
  • Boundaries: 6 fours, 3 sixes
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Certified

No clown should ever say “but but sarr! He isn’t international material sarr!!”
 
Rana said:
Barsati maindaks.

Take their praise with a pinch of salt. They will be back to their snakey ways after one or two failures.
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They did the same to Imad when he delivered in last year the PSL final merely to save face but then went back to their snakey ways after the USA game.

The likes of Major, daytrader and khyberlian (ex-PakEngFan) were all saying "Imad deserves a recall" after the final but I guess a leopard never changes its spots.
 
He batted extremely well in the final and deserves a long run in T20s. He still needs to improve strike rotation but there is no doubt he can hit the big boundaries.

I think he deserves to be given a long run opening in ODIs too replacing Shafique, he can make use of the powerplay and has shown in the domestics that he can play a long innings too.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
What he said is wrong but good to see you acknowledge Sahibzada Farhan after making such posts on him 👇
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You people have been completely exposed recently..now you don't have to do all of this to feel better.
In fact propagandists like you is the reason we failed to win Asia cup. Our batting was non-existent
 
Ahmed216 said:
You people have been completely exposed recently..now you don't have to do all of this to feel better.
In fact propagandists like you is the reason we failed to win Asia cup. Our batting was non-existent
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You exposed yourself when you compared Farhan to Sharafu 🤡
 
He has been a great for Pakistan but a couple of things, needs to work on strike rotation, needs to use his feet more, and needs to aim bigger once he gets passed 50, try to make 50s into 70s or 80s, these type of scores can make a difference.
He is good for Pakistan and should continue to open, and needs to be backed fully even if failures come his way.
 
topspin said:
They did the same to Imad when he delivered in last year the PSL final merely to save face but then went back to their snakey ways after the USA game.

The likes of Major, daytrader and khyberlian (ex-PakEngFan) were all saying "Imad deserves a recall" after the final but I guess a leopard never changes its spots.
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Yea I supported Imad after his stand out performances in the PSL. However he was massive let down in the World Cup.

If you weren't fixated on individuals you would see that mosy of us support performers without a personal prejudice. Imad is a cricketer I like but his attitude didn't live up to his performances so he's rightly criticized.

Maybe you should show some maturity as well and not be fixated on always looking for scapegoats. According to you we lost the ACC final because Misbah played in Mohali in 2011 🤣😂🤡
 
daytrader said:
Yea I supported Imad after his stand out performances in the PSL. However he was massive let down in the World Cup.

If you weren't fixated on individuals you would see that mosy of us support performers without a personal prejudice. Imad is a cricketer I like but his attitude didn't live up to his performances so he's rightly criticized.

Maybe you should show some maturity as well and not be fixated on always looking for scapegoats. According to you we lost the ACC final because Misbah played in Mohali in 2011 🤣😂🤡
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Lol. I hope you see the irony in this. The fact that this is coming from you ........

You know what I'll just let @topspin and @Rana Handle it.

Not in the mood as I'm gearing up for Aus vs NZ series.
 
One thing i noticed, i believe Farhan has suffered from wrist problems in the past, the bat slips out of his hand easily when he goes for the big shots. He had a problem against the short ball in Australia.
 
Savak said:
One thing i noticed, i believe Farhan has suffered from wrist problems in the past, the bat slips out of his hand easily when he goes for the big shots. He had a problem against the short ball in Australia.
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Seems to me he has a different technique for Lois. He is from what i hear the best red ball player in Pak domestics. No way he is surviving with that technique even in first class. He has a great base and balance when striking but you can see he swooshes and misses a lot.
 
mominsaigol said:
Lol. I hope you see the irony in this. The fact that this is coming from you ........

You know what I'll just let @topspin and @Rana Handle it.

Not in the mood as I'm gearing up for Aus vs NZ series.
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Unn ke bas ki baat nhi hai chothe bhai. They're blinded by hate.

As for the irony, name one performer from PCT that I don't support. I know there's only one that I majorly dislike but let's see if you know me well enough
 
jnaveen1980 said:
We have to see him how he does well on slightly bouncier, faster wickets.
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He wasn't good on Australian tracks last time he played. Maybe he has improved

But regardless he is a decent opener for sub continent conditions. At least he hits boundaries against all bowlers
 
daytrader said:
Unn ke bas ki baat nhi hai chothe bhai. They're blinded by hate.

As for the irony, name one performer from PCT that I don't support. I know there's only one that I majorly dislike but let's see if you know me well enough
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I acknowledge that you support Pakistan cricket. But you do have favourites as well that you'll defend till the end of time.

I don't mind it though as I have Travis Head and Steve smith and a few others in that regard.

I've come to respect all opinions however you and many others including me do play judge jury and executioner based of likes and dislikes.

Very very very few PP posters like @Wasim Ghulam @mango_bite77 @RidiculousMan and a few others are truly unbiased in each and every take + claim.
 
Local.Dada said:
His returns are the same as Rizwan. Also if Rizwan was batting and score was 113-1 after 12 overs , Pak would have hit a minimum 160-175 💯, it’s the 200 + fantasy that resulted in 146 👍

Farhan is good in his own way. Like him
but you are comparing apples to oranges here
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Listen to Jarrod Kimber & Uthappa analysis on how Pakistan "looked" aggressive but they were not really aggressive. At the end of the tournament pakistan's average was 16 with attacking shots. Second worst among all teams. They hit the air more time than they hit fours and sixes. Their run rate never went above 9 even during their partnership. Jarrod kimber says 50 in 37 balls is not ground breaking. Because mostly due to amount of dot balls
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Listen to Jarrod Kimber & Uthappa analysis on how Pakistan "looked" aggressive but they were not really aggressive. At the end of the tournament pakistan's average was 16 with attacking shots. Second worst among all teams. They hit the air more time than they hit fours and sixes. Their run rate never went above 9 even during their partnership. Jarrod kimber says 50 in 37 balls is not ground breaking. Because mostly due to amount of dot balls
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Pakistani players have trouble finding gaps. A lot of shots went straight to the fielders. How much of this is credit to the Indian captain for his field placings vs the limitations of the Pakistani batsmen
 
Savak said:
Pakistani players have trouble finding gaps. A lot of shots went straight to the fielders. How much of this is credit to the Indian captain for his field placings vs the limitations of the Pakistani batsmen
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I didn't judge these guys based on their outings against India, although this Indian unit is less experienced than the Pakistan unit. I just go by their performance against other teams in this tournament. They had an issue with rotating strike against every team.

2025 stats of pakistan

66 dots vs BD Mirpur
63 dots vs India
61 dots vs NZ
58 dots vs NZ
57 dots vs NZ
55 dots vs BD (Asia cup)
54 dots vs BD MIrpur
52 dots vs BD mirpur
50 dots vs India


No team has this many dots in so many matches.
 
Sahibzada Farhan (up 11 places to 13th) in the latest ICC T20I batting rankings.
 
If it was Bangladesh in the final—you’d dismiss it. If it was Bumrah/Kuldeep once—you’d call it a fluke. But back-to-back? Not a word from @Mamoon

Don’t hide behind Asia Cup strike rates. Babar and Rizwan may match that on paper, but when was the last time they dominated our arch-rivals? You’d have to dig back years. And neither has ever taken on Bumrah or Kuldeep with authority.

It’s time you acknowledge this guy’s talent. Flawed, yes—but still a level of play we rarely see, specially temperament and mental strength. By our standards, that’s exactly the kind of player we should be investing in.
 
Bumrah has faced Farhan so many times but still couldn’t work him out, unlike another batter
:rizwan
 
The reality is this guy is a limited player. He will not end up a legend but he may be a good role player for 1-2 years.

Right now against good attacks he is going to be in the 120-150 SR range depending in how his day is going.

He has shown he has the ability to tackle and attack good pace bowlers while also missing a lot from them. He needs to become even better now at destroying average and below avg bowlers so as to make up for his limitations.

Long story short. It is ok if he misses 3 balls and hits 8 off 6 off Bumrah/Hazlewood level bowlers. But when he gets a Dube/Stoinis in his arc he needs to become a 14-15 off 6 batter
 
I thought he looked awful in that first over against Dube when he was swinging blindly with no footwork.

Although he got the measure of Bumrah, still concerned about him on pitches outside Asia with decent pace and bounce.

That said it was a good knock in a high pressure final, and some of his hitting against spin was enjoyable. The middle order completely wasted the platform he and Fakhar set.
 
Well his overall SR Still falls in normal category so not sure why are we getting super excited, even in T20 without decent footwork you are bound to fail more often
 
Farabi said:
If it was Bangladesh in the final—you’d dismiss it. If it was Bumrah/Kuldeep once—you’d call it a fluke. But back-to-back? Not a word from @Mamoon

Don’t hide behind Asia Cup strike rates. Babar and Rizwan may match that on paper, but when was the last time they dominated our arch-rivals? You’d have to dig back years. And neither has ever taken on Bumrah or Kuldeep with authority.

It’s time you acknowledge this guy’s talent. Flawed, yes—but still a level of play we rarely see, specially temperament and mental strength. By our standards, that’s exactly the kind of player we should be investing in.
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What do you want me to say? It seems like we have set our standards so low that we hype up inconsequential half-centuries as some great knocks.

What stopped Farhan from converting these half-centuries into something meaningful?

Why did he throw his wicket away both times when he got himself in and had the measure of the bowlers?

Even an Oman batsman scored a half-century against Indian bowlers and Nissanka scored a ton. These bowlers aren’t sent from the heavens. They are not impossible to tame.

Having said that, I don’t mind him ahead of Fakhar who is garbage in this format and always has been or ahead of Saim for now because he can’t buy a run at the moment, although his ceiling is higher.

However, I will continue to have a problem if he is picked ahead of Babar. He never was and never will be better than him in any format of the game and they are the same age bracket too, so it is not a case of future investment either.
 
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Markhor said:
I thought he looked awful in that first over against Dube when he was swinging blindly with no footwork.

Although he got the measure of Bumrah, still concerned about him on pitches outside Asia with decent pace and bounce.

That said it was a good knock in a high pressure final, and some of his hitting against spin was enjoyable. The middle order completely wasted the platform he and Fakhar set.
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Bumrah, Haris Rauf, Shaheen, Harshit Rana all travelled when they bowled at full pace. But guys like Rana, that oman trundler, DUbe looked difficult. Condition became an equalizer here made average bowlers look better. Good bowlers look average.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Bumrah, Haris Rauf, Shaheen, Harshit Rana all travelled when they bowled at full pace. But guys like Rana, that oman trundler, DUbe looked difficult. Condition became an equalizer here made average bowlers look better. Good bowlers look average.
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I guess slowish pitch favors medium/fast more than fast/medium pace (especially with the cutters grip and "bite the surface" thing, pitch’s own pace becomes deceptive.)

Farhan reminds me of Imran Nazir (intent/bottom hand and pick up shots/limited footwork) but Nazir had a higher back lift and bigger swing arc while Farhan can be more compact and repeatable, thus less "spectacular".

Both seem equally good against spin, but Nazir was more of a back foot player and his longer swing arc meant more sixes but also more chances of edges with some seam/swing, whereas Farhan can play on the front foot and also operates cautiously confronted with pace (yet if he doesn’t lose wickets he should still at least rotate the strike).

I’m kinda biased because when I was more immature Nazir was my fav batsman but let’s see if Farhan can evolve better (he did make a better comeback in domestics than Nazir).
 
Mirpuri Don said:
I guess slowish pitch favors medium/fast more than fast/medium pace (especially with the cutters grip and "bite the surface" thing, pitch’s own pace becomes deceptive.)

Farhan reminds me of Imran Nazir (intent/bottom hand and pick up shots/limited footwork) but Nazir had a higher back lift and bigger swing arc while Farhan can be more compact and repeatable, thus less "spectacular".

Both seem equally good against spin, but Nazir was more of a back foot player and his longer swing arc meant more sixes but also more chances of edges with some seam/swing, whereas Farhan can play on the front foot and also operates cautiously confronted with pace (yet if he doesn’t lose wickets he should still at least rotate the strike).

I’m kinda biased because when I was more immature Nazir was my fav batsman but let’s see if Farhan can evolve better (he did make a better comeback in domestics than Nazir).
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Nazir had quick hands if i remember. Farhan is more about power than timing. It is almost like he wants to hit every ball out of Dubai and in the process lost shape. One of the reason why he ended up with strike rate of 116. He struggled against every slow trundlers.
 
Mamoon said:
What do you want me to say? It seems like we have set our standards so low that we hype up inconsequential half-centuries as some great knocks.

What stopped Farhan from converting these half-centuries into something meaningful?

Why did he throw his wicket away both times when he got himself in and had the measure of the bowlers?

Even an Oman batsman scored a half-century against Indian bowlers and Nissanka scored a ton. These bowlers aren’t sent from the heavens. They are not impossible to tame.

Having said that, I don’t mind him ahead of Fakhar who is garbage in this format and always has been or ahead of Saim for now because he can’t buy a run at the moment, although his ceiling is higher.

However, I will continue to have a problem if he is picked ahead of Babar. He never was and never will be better than him in any format of the game and they are the same age bracket too, so it is not a case of future investment either.
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Clutching at straws much… Oman? SL? Really? This India-Pakistan final was probably the most high pressure game this decade given the context and you’re comparing it with random dead rubbers.

‘But behind Babar’—translation: fine, he’s worth persisting with. Took you long enough.

Babar’s great bat, but he’s never handled a pressure innings like Farhan did in the final. You are right that Kuldeep and Bumrah aren’t angels—but somehow all our other batters make them look like they are.
 
Farabi said:
Clutching at straws much… Oman? SL? Really? This India-Pakistan final was probably the most high pressure game this decade given the context and you’re comparing it with random dead rubbers.

‘But behind Babar’—translation: fine, he’s worth persisting with. Took you long enough.

Babar’s great bat, but he’s never handled a pressure innings like Farhan did in the final. You are right that Kuldeep and Bumrah aren’t angels—but somehow all our other batters make them look like they are.
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Some of Babar’s best knocks in all formats are bigger than Farhan’s entire career.

Speaking of straw clutching, the only straw clutching that I see these days is by Haris apologists who come up with all sorts of mental gymnastics to prove that he is not awful with both bat and gloves.

I think people are giving Farhan due credit. He has done well, but had the opportunity to do better but couldn’t.
 
Mamoon said:
Some of Babar’s best knocks in all formats are bigger than Farhan’s entire career.

Speaking of straw clutching, the only straw clutching that I see these days is by Haris apologists who come up with all sorts of mental gymnastics to prove that he is not awful with both bat and gloves.

I think people are giving Farhan due credit. He has done well, but had the opportunity to do better but couldn’t.
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Obviously. Farhan hasn’t had the volume of cricket to build a full body of work, nor has he been given consistent chances. We judge players based on aesthetics rather than substance, and Farhan has been an easy target for that.

Haris is a different case. Mohd Haris is being misused right now, but within the right role, he’s still a very good option for the Powerplay. If used as a low-value wicket to attack pacers—especially on the flat pitches expected in the World Cup—he’s worth it, a bit like Afridi in the 90s.

The quality of opposition this year may be questionable, but his strike rate is still 147 with an average of 22—not bad for a new player. His game against spin is underwhelming; he struggles to pick spinners and doesn’t know how to exploit gaps, which makes him a poor middle-order option and nowhere near the level of Rizwan. Right now, the way he’s being used actually makes him look worse than he truly is.

As I’ve said consistently—and I’ll keep saying it—you need a player in the Powerplay who can score 30 off 15 balls in at least 5 out of 10 games. You don’t necessarily need an anchor hogging the Powerplay every time, or scoring 50s and 100s. If this role isn’t available, then Pakistan should look at other options.
 
Sahibzada Farhan received a hero’s welcome in Charsadda after finishing as the 3rd highest run-scorer in the Asia Cup 2025.

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