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Major said:
Sorry bro, disagree here.

Babar took his time, and got himself settled in the pp and would start attacking later, only to slow down near his 50 agaun.

Farhan takes on bowlers in the pp. See if you get 50 runs in pp, have a collapse and score 24 to 30 runs from 7th till 10th over, that still helps keep the score card ticking.

If you score 30 in the pp, you cant get 50 from overs 7th till 10th, as field is spread and teams deploy their best bowler in the 7th and 9th over.

Babar was taking away the pp advantage, farhan is using the pp advantage.

In this case you cant look in to the strike rate, but you need to look at these things from a qualitative perspective.
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What PP advantage bro. Our PP scores are similar to when RizBar were opening except now we lose a couple of wickets more.

This is our PP performance this WC:

61/2 Netherlands
56/2 USA
38/4 India
47/1 Namibia
46/2 England


I recall a thread from a few years ago about what's a better score in the PP - 66/1 or 40/0. We are not hitting 60 regularly in the PP, especially against quality sides. So the problem is still there.

Again, I have nothing against Farhan as I'm a fan and he's our only performing batter. But to say his impact is earth shattering and that we are getting an advantage in the PP is just a false narrative.
 
psyoptica said:
Farhan is the top run scorer in the whole tournament and probably stay there. Babar is somewhere at the bottom. Where’s the comparison?
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The comparison is between when Babar was opening vs Farhan now. Not Babar vs Farhan in this WC
 
Rana said:
Bro I don’t mind @Hawkeye @Major and @daytrader

They are decent blokes even though they have big regard for a guy who me and you know is a sworn enemy of Pakistan’s white ball progress (Misbah), but I doubt these guys have any idea of who they want to be playing the Travis Head, Salt, Abhishek type roles for Pakistan if it’s not guys like Farhan.


That’s the question I have for Daytrader and Hawkeye. Ok you have an issue with Farhan, so who plays instead of him and takes us to India/England/NZ/SA level?
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I have no issue with Farhan opening. But he's not playing the Head/Salt/Abhishek role. We don't have any such opener atm. Maybe Saim one day
 
topspin said:
No, you intentionally leaned on career stats to create the illusion that Babar is on par with Farhan’s current form, when the reality is completely different.

The reality is that Babar has never reached the level Farhan is at right now, and that’s despite Farhan still not being the finished product.

The proof is in Babar’s World T20 strike rate, which sits around 110 (basically the same as Misbah’s T20I SR). So please, stop trying to defend the indefensible.
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Dude you're switching goal posts. No one is saying Babar is in better form than Farhan currently. Topic started when @Rana mentioned that Salman Butt says that Babar and Farhan had a similar impact. Farhan is in form right now and we've seen in the past that when Babar was in form and opening, he was playing similar type of innings. Our PP scores haven't changed whether it was Babar opening then or Farhan now
 
daytrader said:
Dude you're switching goal posts. No one is saying Babar is in better form than Farhan currently. Topic started when @Rana mentioned that Salman Butt says that Babar and Farhan had a similar impact. Farhan is in form right now and we've seen in the past that when Babar was in form and opening, he was playing similar type of innings. Our PP scores haven't changed whether it was Babar opening then or Farhan now
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Woh Zara Sharjeel aur Fakhar ki opening ka scorecard tou share karna bro…
 
Farhan 64 T20i sixes @14 balls per six

Rizwan 94 sixes @29 balls per six

Babar 80 sixes @45 balls per six



But but Sarrr, Farhan is similar to both Babar and Rizwan anyways!!’

@daytrader
 
mango_bite77 said:
Farhan has yet again posted an Instagram story about his stats in ongoing WC. First he made a documentary on hitting 6's against Bumrah and now this.

I mean sometimes I wonder do they really deserve the kind of backing and support they get from their fans? They have no shame at all.
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That's the problem with these guys

Fame gets to mind

Similar thing happened to Babar see where he stands now
 
mango_bite77 said:
Farhan has yet again posted an Instagram story about his stats in ongoing WC. First he made a documentary on hitting 6's against Bumrah and now this.

I mean sometimes I wonder do they really deserve the kind of backing and support they get from their fans? They have no shame at all.
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Manz out their chilling

Let him. It only takes one or two zeros for guys who hate him to demand Babar or Rizwan back as openers,
 
mango_bite77 said:
Farhan has yet again posted an Instagram story about his stats in ongoing WC. First he made a documentary on hitting 6's against Bumrah and now this.

I mean sometimes I wonder do they really deserve the kind of backing and support they get from their fans? They have no shame at all.
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What is wrong with that, he is doing very well, probably the only person in that batting lineup that has a right to do this
 
shah9425 said:
That's the problem with these guys

Fame gets to mind

Similar thing happened to Babar see where he stands now
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Farhan is very hard working and trains daily, he wont fall down that route of carelessness. He is a product of hard work and grit

Bit like YK and what Rizwan managed to do in 2021. All down to hard work

This fame to some extent affected Rizwan too though. YK was a machine
 
GudduBadmash said:
Farhan is very hard working and trains daily, he wont fall down that route of carelessness. He is a product of hard work and grit

Bit like YK and what Rizwan managed to do in 2021. All down to hard work

This fame to some extent affected Rizwan too though. YK was a machine
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Yes Rizwan even won us a series down under, a fate achieved by Pakistan in more than 2 decades
:salute
 
Rana said:
Ok you have an issue with Farhan, so who plays instead of him and takes us to India/England/NZ/SA level?
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No issue with him opening as we don’t have better alternatives. He’s not in the mould of top batters/openers and plays ugly, can be trapped, but even with all of that as long as he scores and at 150 strike rate that is all good.
 
GudduBadmash said:
What is wrong with that, he is doing very well, probably the only person in that batting lineup that has a right to do this
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What's wrong with that ? Seriously? Your team hasn't won against test playing nation yet in WC. Lost t3 out of 3 games in Asia cup and 4 out of last 4 games against arch rivals India. Still someone has guts to share his personal achievements on social media and make documentaries for hitting the six against Bumrah.

If you think there is nothing wrong in that, then god bless you and your team.
 
Rana said:
Manz out their chilling

Let him. It only takes one or two zeros for guys who hate him to demand Babar or Rizwan back as openers,
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Rizwan has not been part of team
since over a year now. No need to bring him in every discussion. Babar deserves to be booted out, not sure why management is afriad to throw out such a liability from team.

The question is not about Babar and Rizwan here, the question how can Farhan think this as normal when team is on loosing streak. That reflects the mentality and their mindset about what success means.
 
mango_bite77 said:
What's wrong with that ? Seriously? Your team hasn't won against test playing nation yet in WC. Lost t3 out of 3 games in Asia cup and 4 out of last 4 games against arch rivals India. Still someone has guts to share his personal achievements on social media and make documentaries for hitting the six against Bumrah.

If you think there is nothing wrong in that, then god bless you and your team.
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Unfortunately this minnow mentality has simply destroyed our team.

This and the way he was celebrating his 100 against Namibia of all freaking teams.

Sure, when you start winning matches that matter and against good teams, do it all you want.
 
Hawkeye said:
Unfortunately this minnow mentality has simply destroyed our team.

This and the way he was celebrating his 100 against Namibia of all freaking teams.

Sure, when you start winning matches that matter and against good teams, do it all you want.
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Exactly, no doubt he is a very good player and deserves his place in team on merit. But celebrating personal milestones openly that too when team is almost out of WC is disgraceful. If this is what they play for , then we fans are stupid to waste our time for bunch of jokers.
 
Hawkeye said:
Unfortunately this minnow mentality has simply destroyed our team.

This and the way he was celebrating his 100 against Namibia of all freaking teams.

Sure, when you start winning matches that matter and against good teams, do it all you want.
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start winning matches in important matches/ knock outs but not some dummy bilaterals please.
 
Pakistan cricket not relevent with modern cricket

No cut for role mechanissm

Nepotism in Shadab case

Babar place in T20 questionable

Our Power hitting is bogus

We have a forced middle order

SBZ has 49% dotball ratio , he should carried the game against ENG.
 
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Before we do bhangra over Farhan hitting a few against Will Jacks, let us remember numbers are the only truth.

This is Farhan against SENA+India


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He averages 21 and strikes at 116 against the big boys and I am generous in rounding off his pathetic numbers.

I know the excuse already is going to be oh but saar he became a beast in 2025 bla bla. Here are his SENA+India numbers from 2025 onwards:

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Averages less than 30 and strikes at 121

Until those numbers materially change, he will remain a minnow basher.
 
Kianig89 said:
Yes his dot ball ratio is very high to seriously damage a world class opposition
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His absolute peak against top flight opposition is a run a ball 50. He was very close to run a ball even against England for the large part of his 50 before he got a couple of tulla hits away.
 
Rana said:
Woh Zara Sharjeel aur Fakhar ki opening ka scorecard tou share karna bro…
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My bad I thought Misbah had opened with both but it was Sharjeel and Rizwan with Fakhar at 4. Still busts the myth that Misbah set Riz/Bar opening in stone when clearly he was still trying to figure out the best opening combo. That was his last match as coach before he was sidelined while he was quarantined in the WI.
 
daytrader said:
My bad I thought Misbah had opened with both but it was Sharjeel and Rizwan with Fakhar at 4. Still busts the myth that Misbah set Riz/Bar opening in stone when clearly he was still trying to figure out the best opening combo. That was his last match as coach before he was sidelined while he was quarantined in the WI.
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So you got excited again and made another bongi in that excitement?

Sharjeel and Fakhar opening at any time would have been Massive news. How did you get this wrong? Clearly something isn’t right with your cricketing lens isn’t it? That’s what happens when you learn about cricket in Canada. That country doesn’t have a serious cricketing culture I’m afraid.
 
Rana said:
So you got excited again and made another bongi in that excitement?

Sharjeel and Fakhar opening at any time would have been Massive news. How did you get this wrong? Clearly something isn’t right with your cricketing lens isn’t it? That’s what happens when you learn about cricket in Canada. That country doesn’t have a serious cricketing culture I’m afraid.
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🤣🤣 Roza toh nahi lag raha?

It was in 2021 bro, I was recalling off the top of my head. I remember Misbah selecting Sharjeel and he did open with him moving Babar to one down. He clearly didn't set the Riz/Bar opening combo in stone
 
daytrader said:
It was in 2021 bro, I was recalling off the top of my head
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The lesson here is simple.

Do not say anything you remember from the top of your head. Avoid in the future.

Fakhar and Sharjeel opening is like Booking a match between Goldberg and Steve Austin, or Taker and Sting. The world would know about it. Please be mindful.
 
Rana said:
The lesson here is simple.

Do not say anything you remember from the top of your head. Avoid in the future.

Fakhar and Sharjeel opening is like Booking a match between Goldberg and Steve Austin, or Taker and Sting. The world would know about it. Please be mindful.
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Noted boss
:salute
 
He is now the highest run scorer in a single men's T20 World Cup going past Virat Kohli.

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Another 50 for him. He is in the form of his life at the moment. He has equalled the record for the most 50-plus scores in one Men’s T20 World Cup.

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Ok wow what pathetic way to celebrate that 100 yet again!!!

The match isn't even won yet, he played so many dots just to get to his 100.

Pak not making 230+ may just cost them.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Before we do bhangra over Farhan hitting a few against Will Jacks, let us remember numbers are the only truth.

This is Farhan against SENA+India


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He averages 21 and strikes at 116 against the big boys and I am generous in rounding off his pathetic numbers.

I know the excuse already is going to be oh but saar he became a beast in 2025 bla bla. Here are his SENA+India numbers from 2025 onwards:

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Averages less than 30 and strikes at 121

Until those numbers materially change, he will remain a minnow basher.
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Give up man.
Rizwan is a good player for test cricket. Stop pushing an agenda and celebrate performance of a Pakistani players who are clearly doing well.
You are losing respect from fans here.
 
khyberlion said:
Yes who cares about the team as long as you score runs and post them 24/7 on your social media.
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S Farhan was written off as “not international material” by the Pakistani coaching setup. Yet he’s clearly not the player some made him out to be. His domestic record was a far better signal of his actual ceiling than the noise around him.

This is exactly why I push back on the so called eye test and decisions driven by implicit bias or dressing room opinion. Performance data in domestic cricket over time tells a clearer story.

In Pakistan, runs should earn you a spot in the team. Not reputations. Not narratives. Not someone’s subjective view of “temperament” and “technique”.

Cc: @Mamoon
 
Farabi said:
S Farhan was written off as “not international material” by the Pakistani coaching setup. Yet he’s clearly not the player some made him out to be. His domestic record was a far better signal of his actual ceiling than the noise around him.

This is exactly why I push back on the so called eye test and decisions driven by implicit bias or dressing room opinion. Performance data in domestic cricket over time tells a clearer story.

In Pakistan, runs should earn you a spot in the team. Not reputations. Not narratives. Not someone’s subjective view of “temperament” and “technique”.

Cc: @Mamoon
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Good to see you are back. He's has an excellent world cup and credit where due. My reservations are still there. We have seen you other domestic legends in Kamran ghulam, Tayyab Tahir etc. I have no problem with domestic players being given a chance, that doesn't mean that they will be any good. I have called most of them rubbish and they have been rubbish.
 
Rana said:
Farhan 64 T20i sixes @14 balls per six

Rizwan 94 sixes @29 balls per six

Babar 80 sixes @45 balls per six



But but Sarrr, Farhan is similar to both Babar and Rizwan anyways!!’

@daytrader
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Why not tag the guy with Rizwan's literal name in his username? Looks like you are letting your personal friendship getting in the way of unbiased analysis bro. Feels a bit weird that you tag anyone even remotely supportive of these two but not the biggest cheerleader of these two frauds on this forum
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Why not tag the guy with Rizwan's literal name in his username? Looks like you are letting your personal friendship getting in the way of unbiased analysis bro. Feels a bit weird that you tag anyone even remotely supportive of these two but not the biggest cheerleader of these two frauds on this forum
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@RizwanT20Champ you mean?

His and mine’s national interests align. We have an unspoken mutual respect.
 
In a tournament where Farhan went passed prime Kohli, there are certain folk who choose to criticise him? I think this can only be put down to 1st cousin on 1st cousin crime and the resultant mental deficiency.
 
He had a wonderful tournament

Hopefully he continues to work hard and also should be tried in odi too
 
khyberlion said:
Good to see you are back. He's has an excellent world cup and credit where due. My reservations are still there. We have seen you other domestic legends in Kamran ghulam, Tayyab Tahir etc. I have no problem with domestic players being given a chance, that doesn't mean that they will be any good. I have called most of them rubbish and they have been rubbish.
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Fair. Not every domestic performer will make it at international level. Some will flop. That’s normal.

But it’s still a probability game.

If you pick 10 guys who’ve actually dominated domestically, maybe 5 translate to international standard.

If you pick 10 guys mostly on eye test and “talent,” maybe 1 or 2 sustain it.

Domestic runs aren’t a guarantee. They just raise the odds.

This is the part people gloss over.

Yes, some domestic stars won’t translate internationally. That’s normal.

But those failures get exaggerated and used as cover for agenda based picks, while the broader evidence from domestic performance gets ignored.
 
Finally, he gets his long-overdue call-up for the ODI squad... He should shine here as well...
 
Happy Birthday, Sahibzada Farhan!

1,305 runs in 46 T20Is
Two centuries & 10 fifties
Record-holder for most runs in a single ICC T20 World Cup edition (383)

From rewriting history with back-to-back centuries to carrying Pakistan’s batting in the 2026 World Cup, Farhan has already carved his name among the finest. May the year ahead bring even more milestones, match-winning knocks, and unforgettable moments.
 
Farhan is now Pakistan's best batter in white ball cricket.

I think he should play Test also.
 
His lack of footwork, lack of strike rotation and lack of ability against pace was on display which I mentioned previously. He can get away with it at times in t20s, but won't be the case in other formats.
 
Lacks footwork, ability to play pace or good quality spin, sucks at strike rotation, etc etc. he will be a minnow basher with few fluke innings here and there. He may actually do well in ODIs longer term than t
 
khyberlion said:
His lack of footwork, lack of strike rotation and lack of ability against pace was on display which I mentioned previously. He can get away with it at times in t20s, but won't be the case in other formats.
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He seems suited to T20 only.

For ODI, maybe Pakistan should use Maaz, Abdullah Shafique, Saim, Imam, and Fakhar as the openers.
 
I’d persist with him. Pitches were tricky here. And ODI opening is easier. Yeah know he failed, and especially when a youngster in maz did better. But Farhan is internationally proven now. And I think it’s worth trying to just persist with Farhan for now. We can always go back to youngsters. I also think we will have to fit in Farhan at 3, given Saim and fakhar already open.
 
Rana said:
I love this guy for breaking the stupid myth of “there are no Pontings or Vivs waiting in our domestic; that’s why Babar and Rizwan have to open” 🤡
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Trust me would like to break that myth too.

But Farhan is not the answer. Even with his attempted slogs on midwicket, end result is still a mediocre strike rate usually by the end of the match.

Even worse in ODIs, exactly like Ahmed Shehzad.
 
Minnow basher, pure weak attack bully who had his 2 minutes to fame because he hit a couple of sixes. An utter failure in T20I his so called strong format against SENAI. His record is made up of bashing non SENAI teams and even then it is barely ok. If he doesn't improve on his limitations he needs to be dropped. But maybe he can make 3 documentaries and a movie on his 100 vs Netherlands and 100 vs Sri Lanka which nearly turned out to be a match losing one where he picked singles at the end to ensure he got his 100 despite knowing we needed to win by 60+ runs to qualify. @heddie19 @Kianig89 @Raja Ishtiaq
 
Hawkeye said:
Trust me would like to break that myth too.

But Farhan is not the answer. Even with his attempted slogs on midwicket, end result is still a mediocre strike rate usually by the end of the match.

Even worse in ODIs, exactly like Ahmed Shehzad.
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Fully agreed. We want Farhan to be something he is just not capable of. He is not an improvement on RizBar. He is even worse than them in terms of doing something against big sides. Still zero impact or match winning innings vs SENAI. Turning out to be a minnow bashing statpadder. At least Ahmed Shezad scored a 100 vs Steyn in SA.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Minnow basher, pure weak attack bully who had his 2 minutes to fame because he hit a couple of sixes. An utter failure in T20I his so called strong format against SENAI. His record is made up of bashing non SENAI teams and even then it is barely ok. If he doesn't improve on his limitations he needs to be dropped. But maybe he can make 3 documentaries and a movie on his 100 vs Netherlands and 100 vs Sri Lanka which nearly turned out to be a match losing one where he picked singles at the end to ensure he got his 100 despite knowing we needed to win by 60+ runs to qualify. @heddie19 @Kianig89 @Raja Ishtiaq
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Guess he ''learned'' from the great in your username.
 
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