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aboveandbeyond said:
Islamist! Lol. The same Islamists countries your ilk have infested on.
UAE
Qatar
Kuwait
Abu Dhabi
Saudi.

honestly, even hypocrisy has its limits lol
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In UAE, labor workers of Indian origins keeping jumping in front of cars hoping to make it rich out of accident cash settlements.

But hey, that can’t be true because it’s not putting Indians in a good light. lol
 
cricketjoshila said:
How come such a community as described by you is near the lower end of the economic ladder when median household income is considered? Another Asian community is near the topm
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I’d say most are higher than people from bengal in uk.

They also won’t allow Hindu or far right extremists to attack them. This isn’t 3rd world india. Visit the uk & see for yourself
 
Bewal Express said:
Where have the Islamists taken over in Europe. Me thinks you guys watch and read too much of right wing blowhards and then see it as fact.
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The situation is for for everyone to see. It’s in open now. Europe has actually opened the eyes of the world.

Decent people all over the world who wouldn’t easily be convinced that rising Muslim populations in predominantly non Muslim nations is a matter of concern, have now finally seen what the right wingers warned them about all these years.
 
Bhaijaan said:
The situation is for for everyone to see. It’s in open now. Europe has actually opened the eyes of the world.

Decent people all over the world who wouldn’t easily be convinced that rising Muslim populations in predominantly non Muslim nations is a matter of concern, have now finally seen what the right wingers warned them about all these years.
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What situation is for everyone to see?

Please be specific.
 
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aboveandbeyond said:
Islamist! Lol. The same Islamists countries your ilk have infested on.
UAE
Qatar
Kuwait
Abu Dhabi
Saudi.

honestly, even hypocrisy has its limits lol
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Bharatiyas are considered among the best immigrant communities everywhere in the world mainly because they mind their business and toil hard at work resulting in boost to economy.

Recently some Khalistanis have been acting pathetic but thankfully they’re being rightly seen as a separate group rather than being as Bharatiyas which would have been a blot on our excellent image and brand.
 
Bewal Express said:
These Ind guys think they are some white guys after watching and reading some ring wing blowhards. They are just as brown as we are and racists don't differentiate- ask those poor Sikh guys in America after 9/11
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I hear pakistanis started calling themselves Indian after 9/11?

Wonder why.
 
The UK PPers have covered this well so won't repeat what's been said.

Leeds is a very diverse patchwork of communities with stark socio-economic differences. On the one hand there's the leafy suburbs of Headingley, Horsforth, Alwoodley and Moortown (home to one of the oldest Jewish communities in the UK).

Inner city areas like Harehills, Chapeltown and Beeston are more ethnically diverse with sizeable Asian and Black populations. They are admittedly rough with Harehills having a reputation as being a tinderbox.

However Holbeck, Armley (home to the jail) and Seacroft are predominantly white areas with some of the highest crime rates in the city but obviously that doesn't suit the narrative.

What these areas have in common are poor quality housing, insecure low paid retail work, easy access to drugs/alcohol and too many broken homes where children lack role models. That said most people get on perfectly fine and those baying for a race war from their keyboards will find themselves disappointed.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Bharatiyas are considered among the best immigrant communities everywhere in the world mainly because they mind their business and toil hard at work resulting in boost to economy.

Recently some Khalistanis have been acting pathetic but thankfully they’re being rightly seen as a separate group rather than being as Bharatiyas which would have been a blot on our excellent image and brand.
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But they are Islamist countries. According to your narrative, Islamists are the global issue. Therefore then why are indians running to the so called Gulf Islamists countries?

fact is, Rss hindutwa extremists are getting bigger than their boots, and are some how associating themselves with European right wingers.

Sunak, Braverman failed miserably when trying to cosey with the right wingers in the UK. End of the day, they were seen no different to the " Johny Foreigners " Lol.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
But they are Islamist countries. According to your narrative, Islamists are the global issue. Therefore then why are indians running to the so called Gulf Islamists countries?

fact is, Rss hindutwa extremists are getting bigger than their boots, and are some how associating themselves with European right wingers.

Sunak, Braverman failed miserably when trying to cosey with the right wingers in the UK. End of the day, they were seen no different to the " Johny Foreigners " Lol.
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Islamic nations are fine. They respect us and we respect them.

Same goes with Muslims in general.

The issue is with Islamists who go to non Muslim nations and try to enforce their beliefs and politics there the moment their population crosses a certain threshold.

Not every Muslim is an Islami. There are plenty of Muslims who are law abiding and contribute peacefully to foreign countries while living there for example Markhor bhai. He’s a proud and model Muslim and yet he’s not an Islamist.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Islamic nations are fine. They respect us and we respect them.

Same goes with Muslims in general.

The issue is with Islamists who go to non Muslim nations and try to enforce their beliefs and politics there the moment their population crosses a certain threshold.

Not every Muslim is an Islami. There are plenty of Muslims who are law abiding and contribute peacefully to foreign countries while living there for example Markhor bhai. He’s a proud and model Muslim and yet he’s not an Islamist.
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Yes. We have the same issue with indians in general. Decent humans, bar the Rss hindutwa extremists
 
I don't understand one thing. IS THIS THREAD ABOUT HINDUS?? MUSLIMS??? SIKHS???

NO MORE IRRELEVANT DISCUSSION PLEASE
 
Bhaijaan said:
The situation is for for everyone to see. It’s in open now. Europe has actually opened the eyes of the world.

Decent people all over the world who wouldn’t easily be convinced that rising Muslim populations in predominantly non Muslim nations is a matter of concern, have now finally seen what the right wingers warned them about all these years.
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Really for everyone? We have just elected a Labour Govt and Little Rishi got smashed. And the move to the right on the continent is more of an economic reaction to the cost of living crisis. Losers like you may get sucked in but even Modis hate politics didn't work and he ended up getting humiliated after all.the murder and mayhem
 
I urge all the posters to refrain from insults based on personal and religion. Stay on topic.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Not really up to date on what caused it even though I have been tagged into the thread by OP. From what I read this morning the police came to the Harehills area and took kids into social care. Harehills is a bit of dump, used to be low income residents, maybe it's filled with refugees now.

I don't know why there's a video linking it to Islam in the OP, from what I've seen it seems like an east European issue.
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Yeah, Romanian/Roma issue although not condoning the violence. Harehills in Leeds has a sizeable community.

It could be Rastafarians or Bhuddist Monks or even Hells Angels bikers causing the riots or mayhem but you would still have some jumping the gun and accusing 'Islamists' or Muslims.

You can even see on this thread, how some are eager to infer this too.
 
Going by this trend, Paris Olympics seem doubtful. That city is completely unsafe just like ghetto British towns full of immigrants of certain ethnic groups.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Going by this trend, Paris Olympics seem doubtful. That city is completely unsafe just like ghetto British towns full of immigrants of certain ethnic groups.
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Based on what you watch and read The whole Fr needs to be shut down.
 
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Bhaijaan said:
Going by this trend, Paris Olympics seem doubtful. That city is completely unsafe just like ghetto British towns full of immigrants of certain ethnic groups.
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Dubai Qatar Saudi infested by certain people. If India is such a progressive country, then why mass exodus to ISLAMIST countries
 
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Kroll said:
Yeah, Romanian/Roma issue although not condoning the violence. Harehills in Leeds has a sizeable community.

It could be Rastafarians or Bhuddist Monks or even Hells Angels bikers causing the riots or mayhem but you would still have some jumping the gun and accusing 'Islamists' or Muslims.

You can even see on this thread, how some are eager to infer this too.
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Desperate hindutwa brigade. Yet the same people infest Islamist countries
 
Bhaijaan said:
Going by this trend, Paris Olympics seem doubtful. That city is completely unsafe just like ghetto British towns full of immigrants of certain ethnic groups.
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Which trend and which ethnic groups? You keep running from answering these questions.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Dubai Qatar Saudi infested by certain people, who then behave like Namak harams. If India is such a progressive country, then why mass exodus to ISLAMIST countries
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First of all, Dubai, Saudi Qatar are amazing and open countries where even Islamists actually are not allowed to do the kind of stuff they are doing in Europe. So I don’t know why would you call these countries Islamists. In fact the majority of the immigrants in Europe aren’t even at all from these nations and the small number of people that must be are affluent and wouldn’t be crowding the streets like that.

You have no logic here.
Just trying to confuse people my mixing Muslims and Islamists both of whom are two separate groups of people .
 
Bhaijaan said:
First of all, Dubai, Saudi Qatar are amazing and open countries where even Islamists actually are not allowed to do the kind of stuff they are doing in Europe. So I don’t know why would you call these countries Islamists. In fact the majority of the immigrants in Europe aren’t even at all from these nations and the small number of people that must be are affluent and wouldn’t be crowding the streets like that.

You have no logic here.
Just trying to confuse people my mixing Muslims and Islamists both of whom are two separate groups of people .
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Muslims religion is islam. Therefore these are Islamic countries.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Muslims religion is islam. Therefore these are Islamic countries.
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Not you got it right.
They are Islamic countries.

And there is nothing wrong with these Islamic countries. They’re full of great people, people who behave. People of minority faith who come there for work do not create ruckus.

These countries do not even export Islamists. Muslims of UAE, KSA, Qatar, Bahrain are well off.
 
Going by the posts, it looks like some Indians were hoping it was Muslims that were involved in the riots. The kind of stuff you expect from the white far right extremists, the same group that would have a problem with Diwali or any other Hindu celebration.

Indians need to realise that UK’s right wing nationalists aren’t their friends.
 

Full statement issued by Leeds City Council over riot​


After meeting with representatives of the Roma community on Friday, Leeds City Council agreed to undertake an “urgent review” of a “family matter” case.

A riot broke out in the Harehills area of Leeds on Thursday evening after social workers reported hostility when dealing with a child protection issue.

The children were taken to a safe place while police officers attended for support. But when authorities were met with further hostilities, they were forced to withdraw.

A statement from Leeds City Council released on Friday said: “Today, representatives of the Roma community met with Leeds City Council to express their concerns about a family matter yesterday (18 July 2024).

“The council has agreed to undertake an urgent review of the case and work with Romanian and Roma led organisations, the churches, and the Honorary Consulate of Romania and other family representatives for the best interests of the family and wider Roma community.

“We are asking all communities to remain calm and to ensure that we do not see further disturbances such as those witnessed last night, which brought fear and upset to communities in Harehills. Local people are devastated by what happened, and we want to ensure there is no repeat of the distressing scenes we saw. Such actions will have a long lasting and harmful impact on our community.”

Source: Independent
 
I live a stones throw away from Harehills. Riots started when romani kids were taken into care.

All hell broke loose romani community from all over yorkshire landed in harehills.

Muslim councillors and residents were supporting the police to clean up
the mess.

These were Christian Romani community god forbid if they were muslims as the Daily Mail would have had a field day instead headlines read Leeds on Fire!!!

No indication of which community or sect/religion as it wasn’t any muslims

On the other hand muslims we’re cleaning the streets until early hours of the morning with no media outlet willing to post this kindness.
 
Double Trouble said:
I live a stones throw away from Harehills. Riots started when romani kids were taken into care.

All hell broke loose romani community from all over yorkshire landed in harehills.

Muslim councillors and residents were supporting the police to clean up
the mess.

These were Christian Romani community god forbid if they were muslims as the Daily Mail would have had a field day instead headlines read Leeds on Fire!!!

No indication of which community or sect/religion as it wasn’t any muslims

On the other hand muslims we’re cleaning the streets until early hours of the morning with no media outlet willing to post this kindness.
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Exactly what I heard. Yet we have certain people who have a particular agenda against a certain community
 
Bhaijaan said:
First of all, Dubai, Saudi Qatar are amazing and open countries where even Islamists actually are not allowed to do the kind of stuff they are doing in Europe. So I don’t know why would you call these countries Islamists. In fact the majority of the immigrants in Europe aren’t even at all from these nations and the small number of people that must be are affluent and wouldn’t be crowding the streets like that.

You have no logic here.
Just trying to confuse people my mixing Muslims and Islamists both of whom are two separate groups of people .
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But the rioters in Leeds were not Muslims....
 
Kroll said:
Yeah, Romanian/Roma issue although not condoning the violence. Harehills in Leeds has a sizeable community.

It could be Rastafarians or Bhuddist Monks or even Hells Angels bikers causing the riots or mayhem but you would still have some jumping the gun and accusing 'Islamists' or Muslims.

You can even see on this thread, how some are eager to infer this too.
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That's why I was confused as to why the Romanian Gypsies, who by the way are of Ind descent rioting, is blamed on the Muslims.
 
Double Trouble said:
I live a stones throw away from Harehills. Riots started when romani kids were taken into care.

All hell broke loose romani community from all over yorkshire landed in harehills.

Muslim councillors and residents were supporting the police to clean up
the mess.

These were Christian Romani community god forbid if they were muslims as the Daily Mail would have had a field day instead headlines read Leeds on Fire!!!

No indication of which community or sect/religion as it wasn’t any muslims

On the other hand muslims we’re cleaning the streets until early hours of the morning with no media outlet willing to post this kindness.
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Our community has problems, but after the Tory election defeat and the desperation of the right to build Farage as the Le Pen of UK, truth is the biggest victim
 
Bhaijaan said:
Not you got it right.
They are Islamic countries.

And there is nothing wrong with these Islamic countries. They’re full of great people, people who behave. People of minority faith who come there for work do not create ruckus.

These countries do not even export Islamists. Muslims of UAE, KSA, Qatar, Bahrain are well off.
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Where are you based?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Europeans are complaining against illegal migration.

Are Saudis or Emiratis complaining?
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Don't flip flop.

Your fellow associates disregarding Islamists. Yet masd exodus to ISLAMIST countries from shining India.

A perfect case of " pot calling the kettle black "
 
I see they have not blamed Muslim's or "Asians" by that they means Pakistanis for this yet! So it is okay for them to invade Muslim countries then when these illegal's or what not come here causing chaos we should not ask why so many are coming here. Asking the fundamental questions is supporting extremism in the view of right wingers. Many years back when the USA attacked Iraq Goerge Galloway warned it will get totally out of hand. Now immigration is completely out of control, we have many hooligans and criminals coming here without anyone keeping a check on them. By the way no one even mentions "war on terrorism" any more. What are they gonna call the Russia-Ukraine conflict or the ones in the making?
 
The saddest thing about this whole mess is that even in this hour when Britain is hurt and crying for help, the British Pakistanis here remain apathetic to her grievances and choose to rather defend the culprits. This Britain who welcomed and nurtured all these immigrants now has her heart pierced by knives by the same people. For all social benefits, these people salute the Union Jack, when England is on the verge of winning cricket world cups and football tournaments they become British. But in their they remain Anti British and pro Caliphate. This is betrayal of the highest order. The white British must understand now that they’re all alone as they fight this nasty battle. They must also now unwelcome all glory hunting immigrant sports fans who turn their backs to Britain in time of need.
 
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Bhaijaan said:
The saddest thing about this whole mess is that even in this hour when Britain is hurt and crying for help, the British Pakistanis here remain apathetic to her grievances and choose to rather defend the culprits. This Britain who welcomed and nurtured all these immigrants now has her heart pierced by knives by the same people. For all social benefits, these people salute the Union Jack, when England is on the verge of winning cricket world cups and football tournaments they become British. But in their they remain Anti British and pro Caliphate. This is betrayal of the highest order. The white British must understand now that they’re all alone as they fight this nasty battle. They must also now unwelcome all glory hunting immigrant sports fans who turn their backs to Britain in time of need.
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Let me spell it out. MUSLIMS WERE HELPING THE POLICE TO BRING THE SITUATION UNDER CONTROL.
 
A man has been charged in connection with disorder in a Leeds suburb earlier this week.

A police car was flipped over and a bus was set alight in Harehills during the disturbance, which broke out at about 17:00 BST on Thursday and continued into the early hours.

Iustin Dobre, 37, of Clifton Mount, Harehills, has been charged with violent disorder and arson reckless as to endanger life, relating to the torching of the bus, police said.

He has been remanded into custody and will appear at Leeds Magistrates' Court on Monday.

IMAGE SOURCE,PA

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The disorder continued into the early hours of Friday

Meanwhile, officers have arrested a further five people on suspicion of violent disorder. They remain in police custody.

Four people who were initially arrested in connection with Thursday's disturbance have been bailed pending further investigation, the force said.

West Yorkshire Police said the disorder broke out in Harehills, in the east of the city, as officers responded to reports of social workers experiencing hostility while dealing with a child protection issue.

Officers were attacked and helped social care staff to safety before people began damaging vehicles and setting fires, according to Assistant Chief Constable Pat Twiggs.

On Friday evening, a vigil was held in Harehills which "passed off peacefully", police said.

A woman was arrested on suspicion of a public order offence during the event but was later released after being given a conditional caution.

Officers said there would be an "increased police presence" in the area over the coming days.

Anyone with information about the disorder, including CCTV footage, is asked to contact West Yorkshire Police, external.



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Leeds disorder: Harehills man charged over torching of bus

A bus was set on fire and a police car flipped over during violent disorder on Thursday.
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Surely this will confirm the vanishing trick of the hindutwa trolls.
 
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Arrests made over Harehills disorder as council urgently reviews ‘family matter’ case

Police have so far made five arrests over a major disturbance in a Leeds suburb that has led the council to undertake an “urgent review”.

West Yorkshire Police battled the “serious disorder incident” in Harehills as officers faced a barrage of bricks and missiles from a large crowd that gathered in the street on Thursday night.

Footage on social media showed vehicles, including a double-decker bus, on fire while other videos showed an overturned police car on the road with its blue lights flashing.

Speaking to the BBC in Leeds the following day, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper vowed that those responsible for the “audacious criminality” will “feel the full force of the law”.

In an update on the ongoing investigation, Assistant Chief Constable Pat Twiggs said the force had been called to a report of social workers being met with “hostility” while dealing with a child protection matter. He said officers were attacked as they helped the staff to safety.

After meeting with representatives of the Roma community on Friday, Leeds City Council agreed to undertake an “urgent review” of the “family matter” case.

SOURCE: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-harehills-violence-latest-news-b2582980.html
 
Bhaijaan said:
The saddest thing about this whole mess is that even in this hour when Britain is hurt and crying for help, the British Pakistanis here remain apathetic to her grievances and choose to rather defend the culprits. This Britain who welcomed and nurtured all these immigrants now has her heart pierced by knives by the same people. For all social benefits, these people salute the Union Jack, when England is on the verge of winning cricket world cups and football tournaments they become British. But in their they remain Anti British and pro Caliphate. This is betrayal of the highest order. The white British must understand now that they’re all alone as they fight this nasty battle. They must also now unwelcome all glory hunting immigrant sports fans who turn their backs to Britain in time of need.
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So we should just say Muslims are the eternal villains? What about the majority anti war protesters who happen to be white are they also traitors to their country? I do agree that those who want some weird Caliphate should move too a Muslim majority country implementing this system their.

Well our UK should stay out of American lead war's are always treated like a hired dog. Loving your country does not mean supporting it unconditionally even when it's in the wrong. What in your opinion equals being anti British? I see the patriotism of white people who are against the UK fighting American war's is never questioned. Who caused the Kashmir and Palestinian problems? Yeah, it was the British.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Going by this trend, Paris Olympics seem doubtful. That city is completely unsafe just like ghetto British towns full of immigrants of certain ethnic groups.
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Have you ever visited Paris, mate?
It's nothing like you are making it out to be.
 
gani999 said:
Have you ever visited Paris, mate?
It's nothing like you are making it out to be.
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I have been to Paris twice and the deterioration of that city was visible in just 2 years span.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I have been to Paris twice and the deterioration of that city was visible in just 2 years span.
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France's issues dont seem to be from the Asian migrants. Their troubles seems to be from African and Arab migrants
 
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Romali_rotti said:
France's issues dont seem to be from the Asian migrants. Their troubles seems to be from African and Arab migrants
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And majority of them belong to which religion. Bro let’s call a spade a spade. This is not a matter of targeting British Pakistanis only.
 
Bhaijaan said:
And majority of them belong to which religion. Bro let’s call a spade a spade. This is not a matter of targeting British Pakistanis only.
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So you guys look for any issues around the world to prove point of hatred. For a country begging others to take its excess population which you can't feed, shouldn't you be worried about yourself.
 
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Bhaijaan said:
And majority of them belong to which religion. Bro let’s call a spade a spade. This is not a matter of targeting British Pakistanis only.
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Stop begging others to take your workers.
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India is demanding a more generous supply of visas allowing its nurses to work in the UK as the price of a free trade deal.

Delhi is reportedly holding out for a greater number of passes, as Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch arrives in South Asia for talks.

It is also seeking greater access for jobs in the IT and financial consultancy industries, the Telegraph reported. The UK is trying to resist the demands with immigration a major issue ahead of the next election.

Former prime minister Boris Johnson at one stage wanted a deal done by Diwali in October 2022, but questions are being raised over whether it can be completed in time for the 2023 festival in November.

British government sources played down expectations that a deal would be done in time for the G20 meeting in the Indian city of Jaipur, which Rishi Sunak is expected to attend, with further FTA talks expected in September.

It came as ministers should get a grip of 'sky-high immigration' by training more young people to fill job vacancies rather than importing talent from abroad.

Labour has called on the Government to overhaul the skills system, ahead of the latest quarterly immigration statistics, expected to be published this morning.

Kemi Badenoch today hails Britain's 'thriving relationship' with India as talks progress on a major new trade deal between the two countries

www.google.com

India demands more visas for nurse as price of UK free trade deal

Delhi is reportedly holding out for a greater number of medical passes, as the minister arrives in South Asia for talks. It is also seeking greater access for jobs in the IT and financial consultancy industries.
www.google.com www.google.com
 
Bewal Express said:
So we should ban all immigrants? Where will you Inds go for jobs.
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UK or any other Western country is in no position to ban immigration. You need a constant increase in your population for the labour market and the domestic consumer market. Native birth rates are not going to sustain that.

It's not just "you Inds".
 
Nikhil_cric said:
UK or any other Western country is in no position to ban immigration. You need a constant increase in your population for the labour market and the domestic consumer market. Native birth rates are not going to sustain that.

It's not just "you Inds".
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We don't. We have a millions of NEETS and if the benefits system was reformed, we have enough workers. I see the terrible waste at 1st hand
 
Bewal Express said:
We don't. We have a millions of NEETS and if the benefits system was reformed, we have enough workers. I see the terrible waste at 1st hand
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Cost of labour. Immigration drives it down. UK never needed migration in the 50's or 60's either. But they took in Paks and Inds anyway.
 
No smoke without fire. The British are fed up with Pakistani immigrants.

 
Bhaijaan said:
No smoke without fire. The British are fed up with Pakistani immigrants.

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I'm sure that is a fascinating video, but it has nothing to do with the Leeds riots. Maybe start a new thread about British being fed up of Pakistani immigrants and we can happily discuss there.
 
Bhaijaan said:
No smoke without fire. The British are fed up with Pakistani immigrants.

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The channel you are referring to, a reform MP called Rishi Sunak a " useless P Word " LOL.

So less of the high horse, and back down to earth from Bollywood studios
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Islamist! Lol. The same Islamists countries your ilk have infested on.
UAE
Qatar
Kuwait
Abu Dhabi
Saudi.

honestly, even hypocrisy has its limits lol
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The rulers of Middle East are well aware of the dangers of the Islamists in their countries. They do not tolerate them. But those Islamists have found safe haven in West under the garb of refugees and equal rights.
You think people like Muhammed Hijab or Ali Dawah will be tolerated in Saudi Arabia or UAE? They will disappear in no time. But in Britain, they openly preach their dreams of Islam ruling over the West. West handles these Islamists with kid gloves. When they behave badly, they only get a tap on the wrist.
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL. This is a far-right platform. They don't represent entire Britain.
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Far right wants every citizen of Britain to put the Britain first before anything. There are enough people who consider their faith first before anything. A lot of mistrust is there.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Far right wants every citizen of Britain to put the Britain first before anything. There are enough people who consider their faith first before anything. A lot of mistrust is there.
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It doesn't really matter what far-right wants. They don't control the country. As a matter of fact, Labour Party is now in charge of UK.
 
Champ_Pal said:
The rulers of Middle East are well aware of the dangers of the Islamists in their countries. They do not tolerate them. But those Islamists have found safe haven in West under the garb of refugees and equal rights.
You think people like Muhammed Hijab or Ali Dawah will be tolerated in Saudi Arabia or UAE? They will disappear in no time. But in Britain, they openly preach their dreams of Islam ruling over the West. West handles these Islamists with kid gloves. When they behave badly, they only get a tap on the wrist.
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I never even heard of these guys like Hijab and Ali Dawah 6 months previously, yet seems you know them better than vast majority of Muslims on here. But I have seen their material and I don't think they preach dreams of Islam ruling over the west, neither they have broken any laws, that is why they don't get charged. From what I have seen of their stuff they seem to debate mostly with atheists about whether God exists, but I am not that familiar with their stuff, so maybe I have missed their more threatening stuff. Feel free to link if they have done so though.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I never even heard of these guys like Hijab and Ali Dawah 6 months previously, yet seems you know them better than vast majority of Muslims on here. But I have seen their material and I don't think they preach dreams of Islam ruling over the west, neither they have broken any laws, that is why they don't get charged. From what I have seen of their stuff they seem to debate mostly with atheists about whether God exists, but I am not that familiar with their stuff, so maybe I have missed their more threatening stuff. Feel free to link if they have done so though.
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If you have some time on your hands, watch their videos.
 
Champ_Pal said:
The rulers of Middle East are well aware of the dangers of the Islamists in their countries. They do not tolerate them. But those Islamists have found safe haven in West under the garb of refugees and equal rights.
You think people like Muhammed Hijab or Ali Dawah will be tolerated in Saudi Arabia or UAE? They will disappear in no time. But in Britain, they openly preach their dreams of Islam ruling over the West. West handles these Islamists with kid gloves. When they behave badly, they only get a tap on the wrist.
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Mohammad ijab and Ali Dawah are debators with people of other religions and that is a entirely different point. How are they breaking the law?

Seriously, the thread has been derailed by the trolls who have been done with their tails between their legs, and are now flip flopping all over the place.
 
Soon to be VP USA, JD Vance has also made his honest and bold remarks on the situation in UK. People need to realize the world is seeing it as it is.

 
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