[VIDEOS] Pakistan to play a 4-match T20I series in England in 2024

[mominsaigol]

It was fakhar himself who said that Misbah told him to bat at 4 and you will do good at number 4 spot.

Misbah told fakhar: You should bat at no 4 as that's the position that suits you best.

Fakhar said: Okay, I play for my team and trust my coach.

Babar and rizwan also has conversations with fakhar claiming ego wise that they are superior to him as openers and fakhar said okay.

Fakhar Zaman is shariff and doesn't engage is nonsense. Name a single interview where he's done bhrangra.

Rizwan after his 135 against Sri Lanka had such an annoying ego fest, good god he's self obsessed.

Fakhar never said a word about his ct 100, 193 against sa, 100 of 60 against nz etc etc. Infact it was everyone else who saying these were goat innings and doing bjrangra over him.

I've said it before. Fakhar is the definition of a model cricketer in terms of attitude while rizwan is the definition of fake nice, Babar is the definition of Satan.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Yes, out of these 18, 15 will go ahead. Hasan, Saim and Haris might miss out ( due to fitness). Irfan khan's place is also not 100% in.

1st game against England is very important in this context.

They will take 4 pacers and 1 full time spinner only?

 

[BouncerGuy]

They will take 4 pacers and 1 full time spinner only?

They are considering Shadab, Imad, Abrar as the main spinners. Iffi and Saim can chip in some overs according to them. For pacers, Shaheen, Amir, Naseem, abbas, haris (if fit)

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Exactly. It’s against the constitution of Pakistan for Babar to not open.

The constitution created by who? .

 

[Rana]

The constitution created by who .

No it was re-modified by Imran Khan

 

[BouncerGuy]

Can you share proof? Fakhar recently said Misbah told him to bat in the middle where he can offer more to Pakistan instead of opening.

there is whole thread about it brother. Here you go.

“Misbah-ul-Haq told me that I could do best at fourth or fifth batting position in T20Is”: Fakhar Zaman

Fakhar Zaman speaking during the Pakistan vs New Zealand 4th T20I post-match presser: When asked regarding changes in the 4th T20I: “It matters when our main players do not play, but everyone knows that our goal is the World Cup. For that, we are making a lot of changes in every match. Even...

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anything else?

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

They are considering Shadab, Imad, Abrar as the main spinners. Iffi and Saim can chip in some overs according to them. For pacers, Shaheen, Amir, Naseem, abbas, haris (if fit)

They have already said that Rauf will play a part in this series.

 

[Rana]

there is whole thread about it brother. Here you go.

“Misbah-ul-Haq told me that I could do best at fourth or fifth batting position in T20Is”: Fakhar Zaman

Fakhar Zaman speaking during the Pakistan vs New Zealand 4th T20I post-match presser: When asked regarding changes in the 4th T20I: “It matters when our main players do not play, but everyone knows that our goal is the World Cup. For that, we are making a lot of changes in every match. Even...

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anything else?

So Misbah told him, not he told Misbah?

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

No it was re-modified by Imran Khan

Did I K bring in naqvi ?.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yes...misbah told him

So Misbah told him, not he told Misbah?

 

[RidiculousMan]

They are considering Shadab, Imad, Abrar as the main spinners. Iffi and Saim can chip in some overs according to them. For pacers, Shaheen, Amir, Naseem, abbas, haris (if fit)

If Haris is not fit. They should take Zaman. Have a feeling Pakistan will need a death overs specialist sometime in the tournament.

 

[Rana]

Did I K bring in naqvi ?.

Naqvi is Hulk Hogan. Whatever he touches, turns into gold.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Naqvi is Hulk Hogan. Whatever he touches, turns into gold.

So you agree with your Hulk Hogan that Babar should be skipper.

 

[Rana]

So you agree with your Hulk Hogan that Babar should be skipper.

That was a Triple H authority move

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

That was a Triple H authority move

Your happy to give the Hulkstar credit when it suits you but pass the buck when it doesn't.

Typical two face response.

Back your man.

 

[Rana]

Your happy to give the Hulkstar credit when it suits you but pass the buck when it doesn't.

Typical two face response.

Back your man.

Do I honestly care?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Where u will adjust Fakhar Zazam then? because either he can play as an opener or at #4 position.

Misbah told him to bat at 4 or 5 lol

 

[Rana]

Misbah told him to bat at 4 or 5 lol

This isn’t a laughing matter if you ask me. It’s clear conflict of interest by Misbah. He knew exactly what he was doing, who’s career he was paving and who’s career he was destroying.

@CerebralPatriot @mominsaigol @topspin @ArabKnight @emranabbas

 

[emranabbas]

Misbah told him to bat at 4 or 5 lol

Misbah who? Captain? coach? What's his position?

 

[Rana]

Misbah who? Captain? coach? What's his position?

Misbah the appointed dictator of cricket

He was allowed to believe he is the mastermind of Pakistan cricket. The guy opened a T20i innings with Imam ul Haq in Australia

 

[mominsaigol]

This isn’t a laughing matter if you ask me. It’s clear conflict of interest by Misbah. He knew exactly what he was doing, who’s career he was paving and who’s career he was destroying.

@CerebralPatriot @mominsaigol @topspin @ArabKnight @emranabbas

He never tried sharjeel and fakhar at opening. Misbah basically pulled a vince mcmahon, instead of never letting sting vs undertaker happen, Misbah never let sharjeel your best PP opener, and fakhar your best opener provided he plays the most deliveries together.

Sharjeel would have complimented fakhar well. Allow fakhar to settle for 6 overs, and then once sharjeel departs after finishing his job, Fakhar can bat the whole innings and get that monster 125 score.

It's the same with saim. Ik he's feeling but I think theirs also added pressure on him, he's expected to be the aggressor, not Babar who's the no 1 batsmen in the world. He's playing too many shots to get higher sr. Kid can't settle in this lineup. Cause saim and usman aren't THAT BAD.

 

[Rana]

He never tried sharjeel and fakhar at opening. Misbah basically pulled a vince mcmahon, instead of never letting sting vs undertaker happen, Misbah never let sharjeel your best PP opener, and fakhar your best opener provided he plays the most deliveries together.

Sharjeel would have complimented fakhar well. Allow fakhar to settle for 6 overs, and then once sharjeel departs after finishing his job, Fakhar can bat the whole innings and get that monster 125 score.

It's the same with saim. Ik he's feeling but I think theirs also added pressure on him, he's expected to be the aggressor, not Babar who's the no 1 batsmen in the world. He's playing too many shots to get higher sr. Kid can't settle in this lineup. Cause saim and usman aren't THAT BAD.

So true bro.

Sharjeel and Fakhar would have been the ultimate pair. Both batsmen are feared by opponents. Both Batsmen would have competed with each other of who can go harder at the opposition. That’s the kind of competition you need in the team. Not “who can run more quick doubles”

 

[mominsaigol]

This isn’t a laughing matter if you ask me. It’s clear conflict of interest by Misbah. He knew exactly what he was doing, who’s career he was paving and who’s career he was destroying.

@CerebralPatriot @mominsaigol @topspin @ArabKnight @emranabbas

Misbah who? Captain? coach? What's his position?

Bro everything has been a clear conflict of interest by misbah.

1) Azhar Ali captain?

2) Chacha a guy who not a single soul knew about, is now famous as a finisher?

3) Muhammad irfan in Australia? At 37? Is it because of his height? What good will that do at 37 barely functioning?

4) Where did Umar Amin VC come from?

5) Why was sarfraz your best opener and best avg and sr against Australia in odi series in 2014 made to bat at no 7 in the next series? And then made to sit out 6 wc games for nasir jamshed? Again jamshed who didn't get a double digit score for 6 games and dropped every catch coming at him? Misbah said not enough chances? What chances?

6) Khushdil I understand due to his lower order domestic performance but why is he mainstay? Since when do newbies become permanent mainstays without proving themselves? Why does khsudil now warrant no 5?

7) Shehzad and Akmal? Based of what? PSL? They were average? What's the point of removing fakhar as opener fir shehzad, then imam and then rizwan?

8) Where did Younis Khan cone from? People say YK forced his way into the team but I checked old records. Misbah happily wanted him in? Infact misbah himself went out of his way to make YK opener and even stated we need experience and fawad will struggle against Australia? Bro all our matches were In NZ? We weren't reaching semi final with the crapola team . Kya baat kar rahe ho?

9) Rizwan Kyaan sei aya? Middle order failure tha? Waisei shugal mein opener ban gya?

10) Where did ehsan adil, rahat Ali come from, Usman Khan shinwari, why was he so randomly selected? Why because he bowled you out in a club game?

11) Asad shafiq at no 3, he was dropped after 2011, why was he consisntely put over sarfraz in 2014? And then he rightfully got dropped in 2015.

I can go on and on, and on and on?

 

[Rana]

Misbah basically pulled a vince mcmahon, instead of never letting sting vs undertaker happen,

I’m not sure what the actual backstory of the Sting and Undertaker angle was at the time. Vince would happily allow this match to happen…it’s pure money and business. It was Sting from what I understand who wasn’t convinced at the time to actually go ahead and sign with WWE.

There is a lot of dynamics involved in booking dream matches like this. No one wants to be the one having to job first time. Taker most likely would have jobbed for Sting, he is that kind of guy (like Fakhar). But it took Sting a long time (and possibly being heavily in financial debt) to take the WWE payday. He just didn’t trust how Vince would book him in the long run, and didn’t want to end up as another Booker T.

The one match Vince could have made happen as both stars where on his payroll is Stone Cold v Goldberg. That was the actual big miss by Vince. Then again, serious booking issues, no star would agree to put one over the other initially.

 

[topspin]

This isn’t a laughing matter if you ask me. It’s clear conflict of interest by Misbah. He knew exactly what he was doing, who’s career he was paving and who’s career he was destroying.

@CerebralPatriot @mominsaigol @topspin @ArabKnight @emranabbas

People forget that Misbah was actually the architect of the dosti yaara clique.

 

[mominsaigol]

People forget that Misbah was actually the architect of the dosti yaara clique.

As Jeff Hardy says, the architect of your own defeat.

 

[Rana]

People forget that Misbah was actually the architect of the dosti yaara clique.

He laid the foundations for it, but Ramiz injected life within it. He allowed Babar to exploit PCB selection policies and funds (for team bonding sessions).

Ramiz is a bigger wrongdoer in this regard.

 

[Rana]

@topspin

I remember in the initial stages of Babar’s Dosti yaari project, a poster here (who has sources in his mind) mentioned a detailed analysis of the strategies Babar is applying to make this team bond and gel as one. He mentioned it as if it’s a very key strategic move, as if it’s part of a great cause in the long run.

The same guy now would suddenly flip at the opportunity to criticise Babar for his Dosti Yaari selections and what not.

 

[mominsaigol]

I’m not sure what the actual backstory of the Sting and Undertaker angle was at the time. Vince would happily allow this match to happen…it’s pure money and business. It was Sting from what I understand who wasn’t convinced at the time to actually go ahead and sign with WWE.

There is a lot of dynamics involved in booking dream matches like this. No one wants to be the one having to job first time. Taker most likely would have jobbed for Sting, he is that kind of guy (like Fakhar). But it took Sting a long time (and possibly being heavily in financial debt) to take the WWE payday. He just didn’t trust how Vince would book him in the long run, and didn’t want to end up as another Booker T.

The one match Vince could have made happen as both stars where on his payroll is Stone Cold v Goldberg. That was the actual big miss by Vince. Then again, serious booking issues, no star would agree to put one over the other initially.

Sting didn't wish to join wwe because he felt that wwe would ruin him, He was the main star of WcW and many top stars were becoming 2nd string. Heck Cody Rhodes left wwe cause he got tired of stardust. It's his whole leaving and Vincent mcmahon permanently leaving which caused hh to call him back and turn him into a star which was must needed.

Sting however by 2014 wanted to retire but felt he should end it with the big man on the big stage but despite triple H wanting undertaker vs sting bince said no and made it about wwe vs wcw where wwe would be put on top although HHH wanted sting to win against him.

But khair not really relevant, Is misbah was running wwe, horswoggle would be the longest reigning wwe champion.

 

[iPakistani]

So true bro.

Sharjeel and Fakhar would have been the ultimate pair. Both batsmen are feared by opponents. Both Batsmen would have competed with each other of who can go harder at the opposition. That’s the kind of competition you need in the team. Not “who can run more quick doubles”

So true, it's just unfortunate Sharjeel went unsold at the PSL this year and Fakhar averaged 19 at 115 the same year.

But yeah, ultimate pair!

 

[Rana]

So true, it's just unfortunate Sharjeel went unsold at the PSL this year and Fakhar averaged 19 at 115 the same year.

But yeah, ultimate pair!

Well go ahead and enjoy the excitement and dynamics guys like…

Shan Masood
Yasir Khan
Haseebullah
Hussain Talat

And many others like them bring to the PSL.

Are you really going to use PSL selection to decide who is and who isn’t a good player? Hassan Ali apparently is a better bowler than Aamir due to PSL…






Hahahaahahahhahahahahahahahaaah

 

[FearlessRoar]

Misbah who? Captain? coach? What's his position?

Misbah is one of the best cricket brains we have in Pakistan cricket at the moment

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Sharjeel and Fakhar would have been the ultimate pair. Both batsmen are feared by opponents. Both Batsmen would have competed with each other of who can go harder at the opposition. That’s the kind of competition you need in the team. Not “who can run more quick doubles”

Corrupt sethi shattered that dream.

 

[topspin]

He laid the foundations for it, but Ramiz injected life within it. He allowed Babar to exploit PCB selection policies and funds (for team bonding sessions).

Ramiz is a bigger wrongdoer in this regard.

That's very true. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Ramiz allowed Babar to order batting paradises. You have to wonder why Simon Doull lashed out and said:

Where does that directive come from? Does it come from Babar who wants to bat on a road and improve his own stats?

I have a feeling he was privy to what was going on, otherwise he wouldn't have said this. I'm sure he was well versed with the dynamics at play between Ramiz and Babar. Let's not forget the former is one of his colleagues in the comm. box, so I wouldn't put it past Ramiz to open up to Simon Doull and basically spill the beans at the time of his tenure with the PCB.

 

[topspin]

@topspin

I remember in the initial stages of Babar’s Dosti yaari project, a poster here (who has sources in his mind) mentioned a detailed analysis of the strategies Babar is applying to make this team bond and gel as one. He mentioned it as if it’s a very key strategic move, as if it’s part of a great cause in the long run.

The same guy now would suddenly flip at the opportunity to criticise Babar for his Dosti Yaari selections and what not.

Very strange. I wonder why he had his hopes up.

In 2018-2019, I said there was no chance that a meek mental midget like Babar could be trusted with the responsibility of captaining the side. You can see that from a mile away, so it completely baffled me to see so many guys here support his leadership prospects. To make matters worst, he was groomed as a captain by Misbah. This is exactly what you a call receipe for disaster.

 

[emranabbas]

Misbah is one of the best cricket brains we have in Pakistan cricket at the moment

Misbah Single-handedly destroyed 2 decades of pakistan cricket

Misbah with his defensive approach took Pakistan back to the 90's

 

[daytrader]

This isn’t a laughing matter if you ask me. It’s clear conflict of interest by Misbah. He knew exactly what he was doing, who’s career he was paving and who’s career he was destroying.

@CerebralPatriot @mominsaigol @topspin @ArabKnight @emranabbas

Wow all of the highfive gang is out today trying to cope with the series win by bashing Misbah. Oh bhai he's no where near the Pakistani cricket team right now.

As for destroying careers, he gave a life line to Fakhar who took the opportunity wholeheartedly and made the #4 position his own. Same way that Rizwan has owned the opening slot. Made 2 careers that are mainstays in our team.

 

[daytrader]

Misbah Single-handedly destroyed 2 decades of pakistan cricket

Misbah with his defensive approach took Pakistan back to the 90's

If anything its contrary to what you're stating. Misbah single-handedly made us competitive in the 2 decades and covered up many of our flaws. This is evident in our 2003 and 2007 WC outings. We were on a decline in the previous era.

 

[mominsaigol]

Wow all of the highfive gang is out today trying to cope with the series win by bashing Misbah. Oh bhai he's no where near the Pakistani cricket team right now.

As for destroying careers, he gave a life line to Fakhar who took the opportunity wholeheartedly and made the #4 position his own. Same way that Rizwan has owned the opening slot. Made 2 careers that are mainstays in our team.

Also fakhar doesn't need misbah's lifeline, He's achieved more in odi then any of these munafiqs. Misbah vs Fakhar HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[iPakistani]

I have a genuine question amd honestly not just you, anyone else who supported the misbah/babar/rizwan regime.


How do you make claims such as Misbah single handidely made us competitive when

- Champions trophy 2013 happened.

And then sarfraz who had the highest avg and sr as am opener in the Australian odi series get booted to no 7 in the next subsequent series and then sits out 6 games in wc 2015 only to come in and have him and wahab being the only sole reasons for even reaching QF in the first place? While Misbah was saying and I quote

" Nasir jamshed hasn't been given enough chances"

Seriously how are you not giggling right now?

Then with a side that had 29 wins as a t20 side and I believe 3-5 losses only, Misbah comes in and has that side lose a few more games giving sarfi a record of 29-8, and then proceeds ro lose every single series after? With 2 runs scored in a super over against Zimbabwe?

And the argument for it is, MISBAH HAS AN AMAZING FORESIGHT, JUST GIVE IT TIME?

Why was Pakistan only semi decent during 2017-2019? Why?

2017 to 2019 had us to lose to top sides and even have a horrible 2018 agreed but why under 2017-2019 do we crush every b string side in t20? Win a champions trophy, and beat proper teams of full power england, Afghanistan, South Africa amd Afghanistan in a cup?

And why when misbah seems to come in we end up getting bullied? Even c string sides are extremly competitive to the point that you fans are completly happy amd doing bhramgra over Ireland series win stating Hahahaha we won 2-1 against mighty Ireland?


Kidhar? What competitiveness?

Because all of this can be counter-acted with -

2011 WC semi - Misbah Captain
2012 AC winners - Misbah Captain
2014 AC final - Misbah Captain

2021 WC semi - Babar Captain
2022 AC final - Babar Captain
2022 WC final - Babar Captain

You've not come close to an AC since 2014 and that was when Misbah was captain, reached the final in 2022 under Babar.

You've not come close to a WC since 2009, happened in 2022 when we reached the final in probably the most extreme conditions for Pak players.

It's easy to peddle narratives.

 

[mominsaigol]

Because all of this can be counter-acted with -

2011 WC semi - Misbah Captain
2012 AC winners - Misbah Captain
2014 AC final - Misbah Captain

2021 WC semi - Babar Captain
2022 AC final - Babar Captain
2022 WC final - Babar Captain

You've not come close to an AC since 2014 and that was when Misbah was captain, reached the final in 2022 under Babar.

You've not come close to a WC since 2009, happened in 2022 when we reached the final in probably the most extreme conditions for Pak players.

It's easy to peddle narratives.

Have I won an icc event in 2017? Without these 2 morons?

And since when was misbah Captain in 2011? Get your history checked. Until then I'll peddle narratives. Win something and Don't show up with a ct 2013 humiliation.

 

[daytrader]

Also fakhar doesn't need misbah's lifeline, He's achieved more in odi then any of these munafiqs. Misbah vs Fakhar HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What are you on about. No one compared Misbah and Fakhar's odi record. Are you trying to introduce a new narrative? You continue to deflect and derail a topic when you have no argument.

If you follow the discussion, I was talking about Fakhar's position in t20s. Fakhar himself attributed his success to Misbah that he believed in me that I can perform better than others in the middle order. Fakhar wasn't working as an opener in t20s. Misbah handled that well and rather than dropping him, recognized his strength and gave him full confidence. Fakhar the 'introverted' and 'sharif' guy grabbed the opportunity by the scruff of it's neck. Why and how? Because Misbah has good man management skills and communicated his confidence in Fakhar's ability.