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Shoaib Bashir, the 20-year-old Somerset off-spinner who made his first-class debut in the summer, has been handed a maiden Test call-up for England’s tour of India in the new year.

Bashir has only 10 first-class wickets to his name but impressed as part of England’s recent training camp in the United Arab Emirates, likewise Lancashire’s Tom Hartley, a left-arm spinner, who has similarly been elevated to the Test setup.

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England began their Test preparations in Hyderabad without Shoaib Bashir after visa issues left him stranded in the UAE.

England arrived in India on Sunday ahead of Thursday's opening Test following a training camp in Abu Dhabi, where Bashir remains after a delay in his paperwork left him unable to travel with the rest of the squad. The Somerset offspinner, whose parents are of Pakistani heritage, is being accompanied by Stuart Hooper, who recently joined the ECB as their new managing director of cricket operations.

Brendon McCullum, England's head coach, said that the ECB has escalated the matter with the relevant authorities, including the Indian government, and expects positive news in the next 24 hours. England are optimistic about a quick resolution.
 
Poor Shoaib finding out
England began their Test preparations in Hyderabad without Shoaib Bashir after visa issues left him stranded in the UAE.

England arrived in India on Sunday ahead of Thursday's opening Test following a training camp in Abu Dhabi, where Bashir remains after a delay in his paperwork left him unable to travel with the rest of the squad. The Somerset offspinner, whose parents are of Pakistani heritage, is being accompanied by Stuart Hooper, who recently joined the ECB as their new managing director of cricket operations.

Brendon McCullum, England's head coach, said that the ECB has escalated the matter with the relevant authorities, including the Indian government, and expects positive news in the next 24 hours. England are optimistic about a quick resolution.

Breaking news? Not! Usual in India.
 
Breaking news? Not! Usual in India.
ICC needs to have a word with BCCI. This is now happening quite often. Before it was Khawaja, then the World Cup and now this.
 
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England bowler Shoaib Bashir's arrival in India for the five-match test series has been delayed by visa issues, head coach Brendon McCullum said on Monday.

Bashir, who is of Pakistani heritage, is one of three uncapped players named in the England squad for the upcoming series, which kicks off in Hyderabad on Thursday.

"He's got a couple of issues with his visa coming through... we're confident on the back of the help from the (Indian cricket board) and the Indian government that it will sort itself out pretty quickly as well," McCullum told reporters.

People of Pakistani origin are required to submit additional details for obtaining an Indian visa, according to the website of the Indian High Commission in London.

In February, visa issues delayed Australian batter Usman Khawaja's arrival in India. In September, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) wrote to the ICC alleging delay in issuing visas for the Pakistan team ahead of the 50-over World Cup in India.

McCullum said he hoped the 20-year-old spinner would join the rest of the team on Tuesday.

"We're hoping the news will come through today that his visa has been approved, then we'll get him to sink his teeth into this series," he added.

Reuters
 
By watching his bowling videos, it seems like another overhyped Asian player from the England team.
 
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Application filed on December 11th, 23rd Jan and no sign of his visa.

BCCI and GOI doing their thing.
Pak players and reporters not getting visa on time before WC, Usman Khawaja not getting Visa on time, and Shoaib Bashir of Pak origin not getting visa all just a coincidence :rolleyes:
 
India v England: Shoaib Bashir returns to UK to resolve visa issues


Spinner Shoaib Bashir has returned to the UK in order to sort the visa delay which is preventing him from joining the England squad in India.

The uncapped 20-year-old, who is of Pakistani descent, was initially left in Abu Dhabi when the rest of the team travelled on Sunday.

The Somerset off-spinner is still to receive the visa and will not be in India until at least the weekend.

Bashir will miss the first Test in Hyderabad, beginning on Thursday.


 
India v England: Shoaib Bashir returns to UK to resolve visa issues


Spinner Shoaib Bashir has returned to the UK in order to sort the visa delay which is preventing him from joining the England squad in India.

The uncapped 20-year-old, who is of Pakistani descent, was initially left in Abu Dhabi when the rest of the team travelled on Sunday.

The Somerset off-spinner is still to receive the visa and will not be in India until at least the weekend.

Bashir will miss the first Test in Hyderabad, beginning on Thursday.


Total beghairati by the ECB. They should have called off the tour
 
Australia’s spinners won’t have access to a specialist coach on the ground for their upcoming series in Pakistan, with consultant Sridharan Sriram set to miss the historic tour after being unable to secure a visa because he is an Indian national.


Indians didn't play the victim card.
 
Australia’s spinners won’t have access to a specialist coach on the ground for their upcoming series in Pakistan, with consultant Sridharan Sriram set to miss the historic tour after being unable to secure a visa because he is an Indian national.


Indians didn't play the victim card.

To be fair, Sriram was born in India and Khawaja was born in Pakistan.

I'm surprised a player born and raised in England is going through such an extended process. It's been 5-6 weeks. Even the Pakistani cricket team got its visa faster. :murali
 
To be fair, Sriram was born in India and Khawaja was born in Pakistan.

I'm surprised a player born and raised in England is going through such an extended process. It's been 5-6 weeks. Even the Pakistani cricket team got its visa faster. :murali

There has been some issues with the documentation and apparently the passport needs to be stamped in UK. Bashir is currently in UAE with the passport.

Anyone of pakistani heritage has to go through extra vetting etc. Extra documentation needs to be submitted.

Apparently if the person holds both pakistani and another passport, both need to be submitted. This was said by a journalist.
 
There has been some issues with the documentation and apparently the passport needs to be stamped in UK. Bashir is currently in UAE with the passport.

Anyone of pakistani heritage has to go through extra vetting etc. Extra documentation needs to be submitted.

Apparently if the person holds both pakistani and another passport, both need to be submitted. This was said by a journalist.
i wonder if you defend this red tapeism when you are at the recieving end?
 
i wonder if you defend this red tapeism when you are at the recieving end?

The rules are very clear. If someone believes they don't want to follow the rules, well don't apply for the visa.

Here are the rules:


i)Applicants of Pakistani origin fall into two categories. The procedure is quicker and simpler for those applying on a Pakistani passport. Those applying on a non-Pakistani passport must furnish additional details in the proforma given below.

(ii)Applicants having a Pakistani passport should apply for visa on their Pakistani passport only, even if they hold dual citizenship.

(iii)No applicant is required to renounce his/her existing Pakistani (dual) citizenship for the sake of visa.

(iv) Applicants who have given up their Pakistani citizenship in the past should provide documentary proof of the same by furnishing a copy of certificate of renunciation of their Pakistani citizenship.

(v) If an applicant does not have a Pakistani Passport but holds a National Identity Certificate (NIC) or National Identity Certificate for Overseas Pakistani (NICOP), he/she should submit a notarized statement declaring the facts about holding a Pakistani NIC or NICOP and not holding a Pakistani passport.

(vi) Applicants would be required to produce all their existing passports which would be returned after inspection. Visa officers may, however, at their discretion ask for previous passports also.

(vi) In case of naturalized foreign citizens of Pakistani origin, such as where the applicant or his/her parent(s) was/were born in Pakistan or Pakistan held areas, applicant should provide certificate of naturalization as a foreign citizen.

(vii) Applicants of Pakistani origin born outside Pakistan should submit their birth certificate issued by the local authority.

(viii) To save time, applicants are free to fill up the proforma given below and send it by email to VFS in advance, so that requirement of any additional documents can be conveyed to the applicants before submission of application at the service centre.

 
There has been some issues with the documentation and apparently the passport needs to be stamped in UK. Bashir is currently in UAE with the passport.

Anyone of pakistani heritage has to go through extra vetting etc. Extra documentation needs to be submitted.

Apparently if the person holds both pakistani and another passport, both need to be submitted. This was said by a journalist.
Mate, Shoaib Bashir is British he was born and raised in the UK. What Pakistani passport would he have?
 
There has been some issues with the documentation and apparently the passport needs to be stamped in UK. Bashir is currently in UAE with the passport.

Anyone of pakistani heritage has to go through extra vetting etc. Extra documentation needs to be submitted.

Apparently if the person holds both pakistani and another passport, both need to be submitted. This was said by a journalist.
Do you really know Bashir carries a Pakistani passport or just making a argument in favor of your native country ?
 
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For entering in india ,you have to follow the process set by GOI no matter who are they .it's very simple
 
This visa issue has been around for some time now. And most of the time it is related to Pakistan Players or foreign payers having Pakistani Heritage. There is something wrong here, and it is not related to visa rules.
 
This visa issue has been around for some time now. And most of the time it is related to Pakistan Players or foreign payers having Pakistani Heritage. There is something wrong here, and it is not related to visa rules.
If I'm not wrong then Rehan Ahmad is from Pakistan heritage and he already in india .
 
This visa issue has been around for some time now. And most of the time it is related to Pakistan Players or foreign payers having Pakistani Heritage. There is something wrong here, and it is not related to visa rules.

It is related to visa rules. I have posted the rules above.

People of pakistani origin have to go through extra vetting and submit extra documents.
 
Do you really know Bashir carries a Pakistani passport or just making a argument in favor of your native country ?

If he doesn't carry a Pakistani passport as and is not a dual national he has to submit documents saying the same.

Also if he has only one passport and he is in UAE what did he submit in the Indian High commission for stamping of the visa?
 
This visa issue has been around for some time now. And most of the time it is related to Pakistan Players or foreign payers having Pakistani Heritage. There is something wrong here, and it is not related to visa rules.

It is related to Visa rules for people of Pakistani origin.
 
This was handled very poorly. This type of visa issue shouldn't happen for sportsmen.
 
Sad that instead of celebrating the rise of another Asian talent from England, we are talking about his visa.
 
This was handled very poorly. This type of visa issue shouldn't happen for sportsmen.
I understand it is not right in an ideal world.
But in the world we live in where these things happen.
SriRam visa issue for Pakistan , Pakistan management person not getting Visa on time on recent Australia tour so on .
 
Ben Stokes is also unhappy about the current situation and visa issues.

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Pakistani origin man, different rules apply. Teams should have known this from the World Cup itself when several Pakistani-origin cricketers got delayed visas.
 
Pakistani origin man, different rules apply. Teams should have known this from the World Cup itself when several Pakistani-origin cricketers got delayed visas.
First they don't follow Proper procedure but let blame india for everything .
 
First they don't follow Proper procedure but let blame india for everything .

He was in transit in the UAE. His visa has arrived at the Indian High Commission in the UK but needs to be stamped into his passport .

Not sure who is to blame here.
 
He was in transit in the UAE. His visa has arrived at the Indian High Commission in the UK but needs to be stamped into his passport .

Not sure who is to blame here.

VIP protocols - this is what they are meant for.
 
VIP protocols - this is what they are meant for.

He isn't a VIP. And its about time people realise that because you hold a western passport doesn't give you a free pass.

He is of pakistani origin and rules regarding people of pakistani origin apply to him.

And all the British media asking for boycott, well England team is free to leave.
 
He isn't a VIP. And its about time people realise that because you hold a western passport doesn't give you a free pass.

He is of pakistani origin and rules regarding people of pakistani origin apply to him.

And all the British media asking for boycott, well England team is free to leave.
So according to this rule, Virat Kohli rohit sharma etc are also not VIPs?
 
The rules are very clear. If someone believes they don't want to follow the rules, well don't apply for the visa.

Here are the rules:


i)Applicants of Pakistani origin fall into two categories. The procedure is quicker and simpler for those applying on a Pakistani passport. Those applying on a non-Pakistani passport must furnish additional details in the proforma given below.

(ii)Applicants having a Pakistani passport should apply for visa on their Pakistani passport only, even if they hold dual citizenship.

(iii)No applicant is required to renounce his/her existing Pakistani (dual) citizenship for the sake of visa.

(iv) Applicants who have given up their Pakistani citizenship in the past should provide documentary proof of the same by furnishing a copy of certificate of renunciation of their Pakistani citizenship.

(v) If an applicant does not have a Pakistani Passport but holds a National Identity Certificate (NIC) or National Identity Certificate for Overseas Pakistani (NICOP), he/she should submit a notarized statement declaring the facts about holding a Pakistani NIC or NICOP and not holding a Pakistani passport.

(vi) Applicants would be required to produce all their existing passports which would be returned after inspection. Visa officers may, however, at their discretion ask for previous passports also.

(vi) In case of naturalized foreign citizens of Pakistani origin, such as where the applicant or his/her parent(s) was/were born in Pakistan or Pakistan held areas, applicant should provide certificate of naturalization as a foreign citizen.

(vii) Applicants of Pakistani origin born outside Pakistan should submit their birth certificate issued by the local authority.

(viii) To save time, applicants are free to fill up the proforma given below and send it by email to VFS in advance, so that requirement of any additional documents can be conveyed to the applicants before submission of application at the service centre.

i asked you something else
 
Reminds me of what IK said about sanghis and the current sanghi regime in India "small men occupying big offices"
 
In a pre-match press conference ahead of the 1st Test against England, India's captain Rohit Sharma said:

"I feel for him honestly, he's probably coming for the first time with the England set-up. And obviously not easy for anyone, there could be one of our guys coming to England has been denied or not available to get the visa."

"Unfortunately, I don't sit in the visa office to give you more details. But I hope he can make it here quickly and enjoy our country and play some cricket as well."
 
Maybe Rishi can ask his favourite uncle Modi Mian for a special favour?

There is a special relationship here.
"Expect India To Treat British Citizens Fairly": UK PM Rishi Sunak's Office Reacts On Shoaib Bashir's Visa Issue

Earlier this week, uncapped spinner Shoaib Bashir was effectively ruled out of the first Test of England's tour of India, starting Thursday in Hyderabad. Bashir, a 20-year-old player of Pakistani heritage, was forced to return home to resolve visa issues. As a result, he was unable to join the rest of the squad flying to India from a training camp in Abu Dhabi. England captain Ben Stokes expressed his frustration on the matter, saying that he felt bad for Bashir. India captain Rohit Sharma also hoped Bashir's visa issue could be resolved as soon as possible.

As Bashir returned home to sort out his visa issue, a spokesperson for UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the government expects British citizens to be treated fairly by India's visa processes.

"I can't speak to the specifics of this case. But more broadly we have previously raised issues of this kind with the High Commission. We have been clear that we expect India to treat British citizens fairly at all times in its visa processes. We have previously raised the issues British citizens with Pakistani heritage have experienced. We've raised the issues about their experience of applying for visas with the Indian High Commissioner in London," the spokesperson said, as quoted by the BBC.

Bashir made his debut for Somerset in a T20 game against their arch-rivals Hampshire last year in June, just four days before featuring in his maiden first-class match against Essex.

He has played six first-class and seven List-A games so far, but caught the eyeballs of the selectors in England's recent training camp that took place in UAE.

NDTV
 
"Expect India To Treat British Citizens Fairly": UK PM Rishi Sunak's Office Reacts On Shoaib Bashir's Visa Issue

Earlier this week, uncapped spinner Shoaib Bashir was effectively ruled out of the first Test of England's tour of India, starting Thursday in Hyderabad. Bashir, a 20-year-old player of Pakistani heritage, was forced to return home to resolve visa issues. As a result, he was unable to join the rest of the squad flying to India from a training camp in Abu Dhabi. England captain Ben Stokes expressed his frustration on the matter, saying that he felt bad for Bashir. India captain Rohit Sharma also hoped Bashir's visa issue could be resolved as soon as possible.

As Bashir returned home to sort out his visa issue, a spokesperson for UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the government expects British citizens to be treated fairly by India's visa processes.

"I can't speak to the specifics of this case. But more broadly we have previously raised issues of this kind with the High Commission. We have been clear that we expect India to treat British citizens fairly at all times in its visa processes. We have previously raised the issues British citizens with Pakistani heritage have experienced. We've raised the issues about their experience of applying for visas with the Indian High Commissioner in London," the spokesperson said, as quoted by the BBC.

Bashir made his debut for Somerset in a T20 game against their arch-rivals Hampshire last year in June, just four days before featuring in his maiden first-class match against Essex.

He has played six first-class and seven List-A games so far, but caught the eyeballs of the selectors in England's recent training camp that took place in UAE.

NDTV
Great of Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to call it out for what it is.
 
If he doesn't carry a Pakistani passport as and is not a dual national he has to submit documents saying the same.

Also if he has only one passport and he is in UAE what did he submit in the Indian High commission for stamping of the visa?
Your country is making huge progress , financially and otherwise but its government is not growing up, mentally. Silly stuff to give hard time to a youngster who was supposed to make his test debut , just because of his Pakistani heritage , grow up guys .
 
It just so happens that the only person who ECB messed up the procedure for was the Pakistani origin player. Strange how this also happens to only Khawaja in the Australian squad.

I guess boards purposefully mess up the procedure for their Pakistani origin players and only their Pakistani origin players. And additionally, I suppose they only choose to make these mistakes when touring India and no other country.
 
"Expect India To Treat British Citizens Fairly": UK PM Rishi Sunak's Office Reacts On Shoaib Bashir's Visa Issue

Earlier this week, uncapped spinner Shoaib Bashir was effectively ruled out of the first Test of England's tour of India, starting Thursday in Hyderabad. Bashir, a 20-year-old player of Pakistani heritage, was forced to return home to resolve visa issues. As a result, he was unable to join the rest of the squad flying to India from a training camp in Abu Dhabi. England captain Ben Stokes expressed his frustration on the matter, saying that he felt bad for Bashir. India captain Rohit Sharma also hoped Bashir's visa issue could be resolved as soon as possible.

As Bashir returned home to sort out his visa issue, a spokesperson for UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the government expects British citizens to be treated fairly by India's visa processes.

"I can't speak to the specifics of this case. But more broadly we have previously raised issues of this kind with the High Commission. We have been clear that we expect India to treat British citizens fairly at all times in its visa processes. We have previously raised the issues British citizens with Pakistani heritage have experienced. We've raised the issues about their experience of applying for visas with the Indian High Commissioner in London," the spokesperson said, as quoted by the BBC.

Bashir made his debut for Somerset in a T20 game against their arch-rivals Hampshire last year in June, just four days before featuring in his maiden first-class match against Essex.

He has played six first-class and seven List-A games so far, but caught the eyeballs of the selectors in England's recent training camp that took place in UAE.

NDTV
He should call back the entire Test squad
 
Considering BCCI is a cricket super-power and a tour to India is highly profitable, I think we are heading into a future where teams will be wary of picking Pakistani origin players. There are multiple ICC events lined up to be played in India in next decade and teams don't want to be in a position where few players won't get visa due to their nationality/heritage. Pakistan national team will be fine but these one off players from Pakistan who plays for other teams will face issue. Just like there is a ban on Pak players in IPL owned teams, I think we will see a similar ban on Pak origin players playing for other sides.

Again, I am not saying it is fair but just giving my honest opinion that is the direction we are heading.
 
Shoaib Bashir has now received his visa, and is due to travel to join up with the team in India this weekend. We're glad the situation has now been resolved.
 
When they need players like Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid for IPL, they don;t create visa problem, Indian visa authorities " show their muscles " only to a rookie 20 year old who was to play test cricket and could be a handful in turning wickets in India.
 
Your country is making huge progress , financially and otherwise but its government is not growing up, mentally. Silly stuff to give hard time to a youngster who was supposed to make his test debut , just because of his Pakistani heritage , grow up guys .

I think it's very clear that the government has made strict rules for granting visas to pakistanis. Why can't that rule be adhered to by all.
 
When they need players like Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid for IPL, they don;t create visa problem, Indian visa authorities " show their muscles " only to a rookie 20 year old who was to play test cricket and could be a handful in turning wickets in India.
Shoaib Bashir is a British cricketer of Pakistani origin, and he requires additional documents for the processing of an Indian VISA, which he didn't provide. So, his entry to India is denied.

India has strict VISA requirements for anyone with Pakistani ancestry since David Headley, an American with Pakistani origin, orchestrated 26/11 here.

People are acting surprised and crying foul, as if they didn't know about this process. Rehan Ahmed, the other player in the English Test squad with Pakistani heritage, has already been granted a VISA because he did the necessary paperwork. In 2019, Saqib Mahmood was ruled out of an England Lions tour to India, while Moeen Ali arrived late at the 2022 IPL season because both delayed their paperwork.

They know that people of Pakistani origin need additional paperwork to enter India but default every time and then cry victim
 
When they need players like Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid for IPL, they don;t create visa problem, Indian visa authorities " show their muscles " only to a rookie 20 year old who was to play test cricket and could be a handful in turning wickets in India.

Or the IPL teams are aware of the rules.
 
This was handled very poorly. This type of visa issue shouldn't happen for sportsmen.

ECB applied for the Visa in UK. And instead of sending the passport to the Indian high commission in London they sent Bashir to UAE and wanted his visa stamped in UAE.

Such facility isn't available.
 
The English are having trouble accepting that a former colony isn't bending over.

The pakistanis are having trouble that their western passport means nothing to India.

And the threats of boycott? 😂

English media talking about discrimination. Guys ask ECB to take your team and get out. Your tantrums aren't going to work here.
 
The English are having trouble accepting that a former colony isn't bending over.

The pakistanis are having trouble that their western passport means nothing to India.

And the threats of boycott? 😂

English media talking about discrimination. Guys ask ECB to take your team and get out. Your tantrums aren't going to work here.
What do you think is the issue here? Why is his visa delayed? Did Indian government find something suspicious about him?

If India has issues with Pakistan, they should deal with them. Why target someone who has nothing to do with Pakistan?
 
The point that some of the Indian posters on this thread are not understanding is that Shoaib Bashir is British and should be treated the same as every other British citizen.

It is ridiculous to have different rules for people because "oh your grandfather was born in Pakistan".

Learn to accept that your government can also do wrong.
 
Considering BCCI is a cricket super-power and a tour to India is highly profitable, I think we are heading into a future where teams will be wary of picking Pakistani origin players. There are multiple ICC events lined up to be played in India in next decade and teams don't want to be in a position where few players won't get visa due to their nationality/heritage. Pakistan national team will be fine but these one off players from Pakistan who plays for other teams will face issue. Just like there is a ban on Pak players in IPL owned teams, I think we will see a similar ban on Pak origin players playing for other sides.

Again, I am not saying it is fair but just giving my honest opinion that is the direction we are heading.
In the UK we had that with Basil D'oliveira in the late 60s and to their credit they didnt back down. The ECB would get slaughtered if they did that. Ind thinks too much of themselves if they think that will happen in the UK today. Obviously, discrimination is 2nd nature to you guys but it wont wash here.
 
Shoaib Bashir is a British cricketer of Pakistani origin, and he requires additional documents for the processing of an Indian VISA, which he didn't provide. So, his entry to India is denied.

India has strict VISA requirements for anyone with Pakistani ancestry since David Headley, an American with Pakistani origin, orchestrated 26/11 here.

People are acting surprised and crying foul, as if they didn't know about this process. Rehan Ahmed, the other player in the English Test squad with Pakistani heritage, has already been granted a VISA because he did the necessary paperwork. In 2019, Saqib Mahmood was ruled out of an England Lions tour to India, while Moeen Ali arrived late at the 2022 IPL season because both delayed their paperwork.

They know that people of Pakistani origin need additional paperwork to enter India but default every time and then cry victim
If Gov of Pakistan would have done anything like this , I would have criticize it, definitely . But you guys think supporting your government on any stupidity is being patriotic , no its not , it just being pinhead.
 
Funny how India in fear of this spinner, decided to delay his visa making sure he doenst play the first test.

They end up giving 9 wickets to another spinner that isnt that great. Too bad India couldn't delay the visa of Tom.
 
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