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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haider Ali has been fined 30% of his match fee after showing dissent at an umpire’s decision.The incident occurred when Haider showed his bat to the umpire after being adjudged LBW to a delivery from Usman Qadir <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationalT20Cup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NationalT20Cup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1312406726822580225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2020</a></blockquote>
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KARACHI: Pakistan's young batsman Haider Ali says while he admires India's Rohit Sharma and wants to play like him but comparisons with the Indian great make him uncomfortable.

Haider, who made his T20 debut for Pakistan recently on the England tour and scored a blazing half-century, said Rohit is a very accomplished player and there was no comparison with him.

Haider insisted he had a long way to go to be recognized as a top batsman.

"He is a top batsman and I feel uncomfortable when anyone compares us. There is no comparison. He has already achieved so much," said Haider.

The youngster said he had learned a lot just by watching videos of other great batsmen and conceded he loved watching Rohit's innings and taking tips from them.

The youngster said that he would love to be part of Pakistan's team in all three formats and not just be confined to one format.

"I can perform in all three formats as I enjoy playing in them. I had a good first-class season and our coach, Muhammad Wasim had given me good guidance at the Northern side," he said.

Haider, 20, said playing domestic cricket was important for any young player and if a head coach gives confidence to his player at this level it makes a big difference to the development of that player.

"I have always felt that if your coach gives you confidence it makes a big difference to the confidence of a player and he performs to his full potential."

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...rma-pakistani-batsman-haider-ali-2208519.html
 
Shaheen,Rizwan,Babar,Zafar, and Haider are the only interesting Pakistan players right now for me. Hopefully Haider develops into a top class player.
 
Haider Ali has a slight niggle in his groin area which is why he has been rested in National T20 Cup
 
Haider Ali has a slight niggle in his groin area which is why he has been rested in National T20 Cup

Note that he isn't ruled out of the tournament and should be back in the side soon
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two county sides and two Big Bash teams have expressed an interest in signing Pakistan batsman Haider Ali <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1315629364067917824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two county sides and two Big Bash teams have expressed an interest in signing Pakistan batsman Haider Ali <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1315629364067917824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully he goes to play County cricket rather then mickey mouse. No need for t20s.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two county sides and two Big Bash teams have expressed an interest in signing Pakistan batsman Haider Ali <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1315629364067917824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Contracts were gonna come his way considering his potential based upon what he has shown till now in T20s so no surprises there. However, its good that he is offered a contract from country side for longer format as well, he is just 20 so I think he should go for that as that would help his game a lot.
 
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No surprises since he is an elite batting talent. Just needs to handle it well and make choices which will improve him in the long term.
 
Contracts were gonna come his way considering his potential based upon what he has shown till now in T20s so no surprises there. However, its good that he is offered a contract from country side for longer format as well, he is just 20 so I think he should go for that as that would help his game a lot.

Are you sure? May be counties want to sign him for T20 Vitality blast only.
 
Are you sure? May be counties want to sign him for T20 Vitality blast only.

Yes, I was going to say. I’d be very surprised if counties want to take a risk on a young talented pakistani batsman who has only performed in one t20, and put him into the longer formats in tough conditions.

Our batsman are known to fizzle away except Babar, and it’s usually our bowlers who get scouted on potential.

The likes of Azhar Ali are the ones who get the county contracts.

It would be great if true, because it can help take his game to the next level. But I expect it’s just for the shorter formats.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two county sides and two Big Bash teams have expressed an interest in signing Pakistan batsman Haider Ali <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1315629364067917824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't mind him playing in the big bash, but I hope those English sides interested in him are offering a county contract as that would benefit his development.
 
As per some sources he has already declined the BBL contracts as he will be on National duty with Pakistan in Nov-Dec. BBL teams wanted him from Nov 19.
 
As per some sources he has already declined the BBL contracts as he will be on National duty with Pakistan in Nov-Dec. BBL teams wanted him from Nov 19.

He's not been picked yet for Pakistan for that tour :)
 
Haider will get alot of contracts but only should participate if its ganna help him development and if he isnt on duty
 
Deserved a 100 today, poor decision by the umpire. That being said, very beautiful knock.
 
He needs to play a lot of FC cricket. He's a naturally gifted player, but I'm not at all happy with some of his slogs. He's capable of scoring heavily with proper cricketing shots, so why play these ungainly hoicks? Need someone to tell him that.
 
God willing, this guy is going to turn into a real monster in 5 years.
He is just scratching the surface at the moment and his game and technique are not organized, yet he is outclassing everyone.
If things go well like they have done for Babar, he could very well be the Pakistani ABDV, and I am being judicious here.
 
God willing, this guy is going to turn into a real monster in 5 years.
He is just scratching the surface at the moment and his game and technique are not organized, yet he is outclassing everyone.
If things go well like they have done for Babar, he could very well be the Pakistani ABDV, and I am being judicious here.

A bit better today from him he favours the leg side too much. He's much better then this. Someone seriously needs to have a word with him doesn't need to hit every ball for a 6 from the word go. I am sure he will learn but needs to learn quickly.
 
Not good today gave lots of chances to opposition......he is a much better bat
 
Our for 86 off 50.

Really frustrating when you can't get to 100 after doing the hard yards in an innings

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A bit better today from him he favours the leg side too much. He's much better then this. Someone seriously needs to have a word with him doesn't need to hit every ball for a 6 from the word go. I am sure he will learn but needs to learn quickly.

He has the ability to play 360.
But he is so inexperienced and raw that he doesnt know how to use his range at the moment, which is why I said that his game is not organized at the moment.
Once he cracks the code, there is going to be no stopping him.
He is a monster in the works.
 
He has the ability to play 360.
But he is so inexperienced and raw that he doesnt know how to use his range at the moment, which is why I said that his game is not organized at the moment.
Once he cracks the code, there is going to be no stopping him.
He is a monster in the works.

Yeah I hope so he has all the ability in the world plays both spin and fast equally well. I guess this will come with time and the more he plays how I wish mickey and flower were around now to help the likes of Haider ali, Abdullah shafique and other young batsmen rather then the rubbish coaching personals we have right now. Have high hopes from both of them.
 
Leg side hack...on a seaming/swing conditions, wont last long.
Flat pitches, he may be ok.
 
Leg side hack...on a seaming/swing conditions, wont last long.
Flat pitches, he may be ok.

Actually he's got a very good technique against a moving ball on hard length, see some videos from Pak vs Saf U19 tour. He has all the ingredients of a world class batsman it's just his game plan sucks at the moment.
 
Question marks on haider ali defense is legitimate. Hafeez have also pointed it out hopefully haider rectify it ..
 
At this stage of his career you can't expect him to be the finished article or anywhere near it.

I look at him and compare him with Tom Banton really. Both great stroke-makers, big hitters, but at times they will look terrible on a bad day.

The most important thing is that he improves, tightens up his game and doesn't just become a big slogger.
 
Question marks on haider ali defense is legitimate. Hafeez have also pointed it out hopefully haider rectify it ..

I think you have to take into consideration the format he is playing in. From what I heard, he was originally thought to be better suited to red ball cricket, and he only really showed what he can do in T20 in the last PSL. So I think at the moment he is just going hell for leather in this format, he will calm down a bit eventually. But doesn’t mean he has a bad technique. Can’t judge that yet because we haven’t seen him play a different format yet for the national team.
 
I don't agree with that statement.

If he doesn't want to try to improve now, when will he learn?
 
To be honest, I think most people here are over-reacting - if anything, he has proven to be smarter than most people in the Pakistan set-up.

This is why: despite having the technique (as can be seen in U-19 ODIs and in First Class cricket) and the fact that he can play proper cricketing shots, he understands modern T20s. There is a reason his favorite player is Rohit Sharma, not Virat Kohli - impact is important, Strike Rate is important, and he is vital in the impressive, aggressive gameplan that has worked so well for Northern.

We don’t need another Babar in our T20 team, rather we need a KL Rahul or Rohit Sharma who can accelerate at will (but has the shots to slow down if need be). That is precisely why Haider is such a high-impact potential proposition - he has different gears that are needed to propel our limited overs teams. In other words, he is deliberately playing high risk cricket as a team-man, rather than play selfishly for his stats in T20.

No doubt he has a lot yet to learn, but that will come with time and experience. He will be smarter about shot selection while maintaining his run rate. However, especially in domestics, he knows his scoring areas and backs himself to play positive cricket - in T20s, that always comes at a risk. That’s why he is the MVP for Northern and that’s the value for Pakistan’s LOI teams. No point giving him a callup only to curtail his game and make him afraid to play his shots in the only format where you are allowed to do this.

Watch for yourselves - when he gets his ODI debut, you will see a far more steady game (still at high strike rate) and he will look a completely different player. Same for Tests. Those different gears are the most exciting aspect of his game.
 
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Haider ali game is to play aggressive and take on the bowlers yes he prefers the leg side but he can play on the offside to he isnt a selfish player
 
BBL would improve his game because the pressure of being an overseas pro, having to prove himself will take him to another level.

I would rather have him play in qaid e azam to see how he does thier in the longer format he will succeed in t20 as he has the power game but in the longer format it requires alot more one bad shot can cost his team the game
 
To be honest, I think most people here are over-reacting - if anything, he has proven to be smarter than most people in the Pakistan set-up.

This is why: despite having the technique (as can be seen in U-19 ODIs and in First Class cricket) and the fact that he can play proper cricketing shots, he understands modern T20s. There is a reason his favorite player is Rohit Sharma, not Virat Kohli - impact is important, Strike Rate is important, and he is vital in the impressive, aggressive gameplan that has worked so well for Northern.

We don’t need another Babar in our T20 team, rather we need a KL Rahul or Rohit Sharma who can accelerate at will (but has the shots to slow down if need be). That is precisely why Haider is such a high-impact potential proposition - he has different gears that are needed to propel our limited overs teams. In other words, he is deliberately playing high risk cricket as a team-man, rather than play selfishly for his stats in T20.

No doubt he has a lot yet to learn, but that will come with time and experience. He will be smarter about shot selection while maintaining his run rate. However, especially in domestics, he knows his scoring areas and backs himself to play positive cricket - in T20s, that always comes at a risk. That’s why he is the MVP for Northern and that’s the value for Pakistan’s LOI teams. No point giving him a callup only to curtail his game and make him afraid to play his shots in the only format where you are allowed to do this.

Watch for yourselves - when he gets his ODI debut, you will see a far more steady game (still at high strike rate) and he will look a completely different player. Same for Tests. Those different gears are the most exciting aspect of his game.

Very welll analysed. His multiple gears and great game-sense are what is really exciting about him.
Unfortunately, most of our fellow posters dont see beyond the surface and cant pick on the things that you have pointed out so well.
I see Haider as a potential captaincy candidate as well in the future. I dont know if it is me, but I see a lot of younis Khan's fire and willingness to learn in him. He looks like a smart but tough character who can be great for this role.
 
BBL is from December 3rd to February 6th. I don't see why he can't play all 3 of QeA trophy, NZ tour and then BBL in January February. Though this is assuming he'll only play T20Is for us, and not tests. Even if England and SA tour in January he can come back to Pakistan to play those matches then go back to finish his BBL stint like Haris Rauf did last year
 
Very welll analysed. His multiple gears and great game-sense are what is really exciting about him.
Unfortunately, most of our fellow posters dont see beyond the surface and cant pick on the things that you have pointed out so well.
I see Haider as a potential captaincy candidate as well in the future. I dont know if it is me, but I see a lot of younis Khan's fire and willingness to learn in him. He looks like a smart but tough character who can be great for this role.

I for one completely realize that Haider Ali could turn into a great impact player for us and someone who can single-handedly win us matches. But, sanp ka dasa wali baat hai yaha pe. We've seen others (Akmal) with similar talents who never learned shot selection and never seriously thought about fine-tuning his game, which led to the ugly hoics getting uglier year by year and eventually to complete disgrace. Just a little scared of that happening, that's all.

And that is precisely because I realize what a monster he could turn into. But for that to happen it's important for him to not take things for granted. I don't even like him playing against Zimbabwe. Bad habits and all that...
 
BBL is from December 3rd to February 6th. I don't see why he can't play all 3 of QeA trophy, NZ tour and then BBL in January February. Though this is assuming he'll only play T20Is for us, and not tests. Even if England and SA tour in January he can come back to Pakistan to play those matches then go back to finish his BBL stint like Haris Rauf did last year

With Corona that's going to be hard am sure he will need to self isolate when going abroad and coming back
 
With Corona that's going to be hard am sure he will need to self isolate when going abroad and coming back

That's true, I had forgotten we're living in corona times :inti Still though, I think it's manageable through testing alone, no need to isolate. I mean isolate until the test result comes in.
 
That's true, I had forgotten we're living in corona times :inti Still though, I think it's manageable through testing alone, no need to isolate. I mean isolate until the test result comes in.

That's true to but they need to manage him even thou hes a batter
 
I for one completely realize that Haider Ali could turn into a great impact player for us and someone who can single-handedly win us matches. But, sanp ka dasa wali baat hai yaha pe. We've seen others (Akmal) with similar talents who never learned shot selection and never seriously thought about fine-tuning his game, which led to the ugly hoics getting uglier year by year and eventually to complete disgrace. Just a little scared of that happening, that's all.

And that is precisely because I realize what a monster he could turn into. But for that to happen it's important for him to not take things for granted. I don't even like him playing against Zimbabwe. Bad habits and all that...
I can understand your concern but you have to understand that not everyone is cut from the same cloth.
Haider is just a piece in a big puzzle, that is Pakistan Cricket.

The last 15 years for us were dark, not only for the cricket team, but the country as a whole.
However, the times have changed now.

You might call me out for having a crystal ball or that I am frikkin mental, but in this decade you will be surprised by our growth as a cricket team.

So you guys should stop worrying. Things are upwardly mobile and God willing, it will only get better from here.

The Haiders, Rauf's, Shaheens and Azam's will not disappoint you like you have become used to.

The wave has arrived after 15 long years.
Those who can see, have already seen it. 😉
 
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I can understand your concern but you have to understand that not everyone is cut from the same cloth.
Haider is just a piece in a big puzzle, that is Pakistan Cricket.

The last 15 years for us were dark, not only for the cricket team, but the country as a whole.
However, the times have changed now.

You might call me out for having a crystal ball or that I am frikkin mental, but in this decade you will be surprised by our growth as a cricket team.

So you guys should stop worrying. Things are upwardly mobile and God willing, it will only get better from here.

The Haiders, Rauf's, Shaheens and Azam's will not disappoint you like you have become used to.

The wave has arrived after 15 long years.
Those who can see, have already seen it. 😉

:salute
 
I can understand your concern but you have to understand that not everyone is cut from the same cloth.
Haider is just a piece in a big puzzle, that is Pakistan Cricket.

The last 15 years for us were dark, not only for the cricket team, but the country as a whole.
However, the times have changed now.

You might call me out for having a crystal ball or that I am frikkin mental, but in this decade you will be surprised by our growth as a cricket team.

So you guys should stop worrying. Things are upwardly mobile and God willing, it will only get better from here.

The Haiders, Rauf's, Shaheens and Azam's will not disappoint you like you have become used to.

The wave has arrived after 15 long years.
Those who can see, have already seen it. &#55357;&#56841;

Amen to that!
 
Today’s inning was full of slogs. He’s a better batter than that but someone need to tell him that. He must look at how Babar plays his shots without taking much risk and everything coming right out of middle. Great talent but require some intervention from Moyo.
 
I'm not 100% sure about him. He slogs so much. Despite scoring runs, doesn't look in full control.

Hopefully he will get better and clear my doubts
 
I'm not 100% sure about him. He slogs so much. Despite scoring runs, doesn't look in full control.

Hopefully he will get better and clear my doubts

Can I ask you something? Firstly, what percentage of his shots were slogs?

Secondly, what is the highest strike rate attainable by a player in T20s without a single slog (especially with short boundaries)?

Thirdly, have you watched his U-19 One Day and FC games?
 
Can I ask you something? Firstly, what percentage of his shots were slogs?

Secondly, what is the highest strike rate attainable by a player in T20s without a single slog (especially with short boundaries)?

Thirdly, have you watched his U-19 One Day and FC games?

I will be quite happy if he performs well at international level but I have my doubts. Haider fans need to stop being so defensive about him. I have learned a bitter lesson of not hyping Pakistani players unless they perform for Pakistan consistently
 
I will be quite happy if he performs well at international level but I have my doubts. Haider fans need to stop being so defensive about him. I have learned a bitter lesson of not hyping Pakistani players unless they perform for Pakistan consistently

I suppose it’s less defensiveness and more about responding to unnecessary criticism - I am the first one to agree that while this game works for T20s, sometimes you play T20 cricket long enough and it rubs off on the rest of your game. Haider would definitely in danger of this if he had a brain like Umar Akmal’s. From what I have been able to observe though, he is much smarter and educated.
 
He has immense talent. The bat speed and the time he has is rare and he is clearly gifted in that regard.

But what I like most about him is his mentality. He has that trademark Pakistani aggression and flair which was missing during the last decade.

My only fear is that Misbah will ruin him as he has done with so many promising cricketers in past.
 
Haider alo is a immense talent he has amazing bat speed he can play on both sides of the wicket like we have seen in doesmtic and u19s.he is a match winner
 
Not included in the 15-member ODI squad for 1st game against Zimbabwe

Really dont understand our selections.
 
Babar Azam in his presser today

"The future of Haider Ali and Abdullah Shafique is very bright and I do like both of these players; Both play with different techniques"

"Haider Ali plays an in aggressive way and his aim is to play with a good strike rate"
 
What a pathetic decision haider should have been in 15 instead of one of the spinners or an opener
 
Mohammad Wasim speaking in his interview with us about Haider Ali:

PakPassion.net: How highly do you rate Haider Ali and what does he need to improve on?

Mohammad Wasim: Haider performed brilliantly for Northern last year which was his debut season in First-class cricket, scoring 645 runs in just 7 matches. He could well have ended up as the top-scoring batsman had he played in all the games which he could not as he was an emerging player. I have always rated him as an excellent player in red-ball cricket because he is an attacking batsman who can play with a good strike rate and loves to dominate bowlers. He is good against pace and equally good against spin bowling and most importantly, he knows his game which is amazing for someone who is so young and this shows that he has a very mature head on his shoulders.

As for white-ball cricket, he has just started in this format and we need to see how he does as a lot of young players do well in this format at the start – and I can even mention my name in that regard. I am hoping that he will continue to perform and improve. We have only seen him for Pakistan in white-ball cricket, but the fact is that you cannot be that consistent in something like T20 cricket due to the nature of the game. To me, if you as a batsman can win two out of five or six games in T20, then that is a satisfactory outcome. Based on what I have seen of Haider, I still rate him as a better red-ball player than a white-ball one.
 
Match winning cameo from him today. He’s clearly got the ability, just needs the temperament. Working with Amla would definitely help in that regard. Instead of Malik leading the way and showing him how to go about, it was great to see Haider take on some responsibility and see his team home. Really impressive tonight.
 
Match turning knock at the end with 24* off 8 balls to win it for his side.
 
This innings may come back to haunt him.

With the top order of Babar, Rizwan and Hafeez set and Fakhar seemingly back in form, it may be that Haider is pushed down to 5/6. While he would be better there than the likes of Khushdil/ Asif/ Azam Khan, he is too good a player to be down at number 6.
 
This innings may come back to haunt him.

With the top order of Babar, Rizwan and Hafeez set and Fakhar seemingly back in form, it may be that Haider is pushed down to 5/6. While he would be better there than the likes of Khushdil/ Asif/ Azam Khan, he is too good a player to be down at number 6.

A lot of young batsmen are developed at those numbers initially. So if he is comfortable with it I think its fine. Eventually he will move up once Hafeez retires.
 
Haider Ali performances and levels have dropped in the last couple of months, but he is still one of the best young players in Pakistan after Shaheen. We know he can hit boundaries as he showed today. He needs to improve on building an innings and shot selection.
 
He has solid temperament and great character.
Not one of those to buckle under pressure and it showed today.
Just needs to bat long periods and figure out his game.
There is so much talent there that he cant really establish what kind of a batsman he is.
 
A lot of young batsmen are developed at those numbers initially. So if he is comfortable with it I think its fine. Eventually he will move up once Hafeez retires.

In the longer formats, but in T20 it can make him into a slogger as opposed to requiring him to build an innings. But I suppose you are right in that Hafeez is on his final hurrah and Haider can then move up to replace him.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haider Ali is a special talent with a bright future. But people need to be patient with him and remember that he is just 20 years old <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL6?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL6</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/zAquGbQUZs">pic.twitter.com/zAquGbQUZs</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1364278091741282309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 23, 2021</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haider Ali "Shoaib Malik told me that I will get deliveries in my zone and that is exactly what happened. He really helped me relax during my innings, telling me not to worry and that we would reach the winning score" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL6?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL6</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/ukepwvrC04">pic.twitter.com/ukepwvrC04</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1364276564083499015?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 23, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Big innings for his development, seeing the game through to the end could be just what he needed to prove himself. First time I've seen him stand up and perform when the heat is on. Looked class, but nee to see him go on and start hitting 50's now.
 
Took a brilliant catch at slip to start and then finished the match in style.

I feel like he needed this performance for his confidence.
 
Not convinced at all...looked clueless against shamsi ... needs to work on his backfoot game a lot to succed in internationals. Backfoot's always static
 
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