Aman
Test Captain
- Joined
- Jan 16, 2013
- Runs
- 47,061
/s?Not at all. Kohli = Champion.
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/s?Not at all. Kohli = Champion.
Kohi has won more icc cups than New Zealand.
We won WTC and CT.Kohi has won more icc cups than New Zealand.
We won WTC and CT.
Kohli from memory has a WC (as a passenger) and a CT.
Good on him, a country smaller than Mumbai has been able to win as many ICC titles over Kohli's career.
WC POTT: -Most hundreds :-
Kohli - 46
Kane + Root + Williamson - 41
Yeah, those were the shots which made me his fan in his initial years, such finesse.I am not hyping Kohli here. I am going to be guarded. But the shots he played in the end overs separate him from other fab 3. These are ridiculous shots. Crisp, clean with impeccable balance.
I am not hyping Kohli here. I am going to be guarded. But the shots he played in the end overs separate him from other fab 3. These are ridiculous shots. Crisp, clean with impeccable balance.
Yea, Tendulkar was a bilateral bully who has a garbage record in World Cups![]()
I am not hyping Kohli here. I am going to be guarded. But the shots he played in the end overs separate him from other fab 3. These are ridiculous shots. Crisp, clean with impeccable balance.
Ask Pakistani players & fans. Kohli has a massive psychological impact on them. They fear him like no other player regardless of his form.
Regardless of his form, Pakistani bowlers will always bow down to the King.
Babar Azam has a total of 10 centuries against Sri Lanka, West Indies and Zimbabwe out of his 17 centuries.Virat Kohli has 23 hundreds against Sri Lanka,Bangladesh,West Indies,Zimbabwe
Virat Kohli has 23 hundreds against Sri Lanka,Bangladesh,West Indies,Zimbabwe
Virat Kohli has 23 hundreds against Sri Lanka,Bangladesh,West Indies,Zimbabwe
People forget Kohli has been playing ODI for 14 years. You cannot compare the current Srilanka with the srilanka that had the likes of Malinga. 5 of his centuries against Srilanka came in 2012 or before. Srilanka's regression started only later.
Not at all. Kohli = Champion.
Babar Azam has a total of 10 centuries against Sri Lanka, West Indies and Zimbabwe out of his 17 centuries.
Virat Kohli has 23 hundreds against Sri Lanka,Bangladesh,West Indies,Zimbabwe
People forget Kohli has been playing ODI for 14 years. You cannot compare the current Srilanka with the srilanka that had the likes of Malinga. 5 of his centuries against Srilanka came in 2012 or before. Srilanka's regression started only later.
You mean the Sri Lanka that made the finals in 07, 11 and 13CT? That’s not too bad then.
Kohli is legend. Rohit is overrated. Can you read the bowlers name in that 264 knock?
But Babar is average player.
You mean the Sri Lanka that made the finals in 07, 11 and 13CT? That’s not too bad then.
Average. I second that.
But, Bobby is currently the no.1 ranked ODI batter.
The difference in number of innings is staggering. He is easily the greatest ODI batsman ever. You have to be bonkers to argue otherwise.
No career is perfect & certainly, the failures in World Cup semifinals & Champions Trophy final count against him but the gulf between him & the rest is too massive for those failures to make any difference.
According to you icc trophy records and performances are "the benchmark" to consider a player as ATG. So virat is still not an ATG in your book!
According to you icc trophy records and performances are "the benchmark" to consider a player as ATG. So virat is still not an ATG in your book!
Kohli is already a two time champion. He won the 2011 World Cup & the 2013 Champions Trophy.
His 100+ run partnership with Gambhir in the 2011 final when India were 2 down for 20 was crucial to India’s victory & he top scored in the 2013 Champions Trophy final in difficult conditions in a rain-hit game.
So even if my definition was what you inferred, he is an all-time great.
However, my definition is very clear: trophies add gloss to your career; they do not make or break careers neither do they define them.
Nothing players have won World Cups & legends have not. Brian Lara has not won a World Cup but Moeen Ali has. I can go on & on.
No batsman in history has dominated the ODI format the way Kohli. There is no one close to him. To say that he is not an all-time great because he has failed in several knockout matches & has not won an ODI trophy in 10 years is utter nonsense.
If he is not an all-time great, no one is.
2015 ICC World Cup: 50.83 Average, 81.55 SR
2019 ICC World Cup: 55.38 Average, 94.06 SR
2013 ICC Champions Trophy 58.67 Average, 95.65 SR
2017 ICC Champions Trophy: 129.00 Average, 98.85 SR
2012 ICC World Twenty20: 46.25 Average, 122.52 SR
2014 ICC World Twenty20: 106.33 Average, 129.15 SR, Player of the tournament
2016 ICC World Twenty20: 136.50 Average, 146.77 SR, Player of the tournament
2022 ICC T20 World Cup: 98.67 Average, 136.41 SR
T20 GOAT, ODI ATG but still has it in him to end up as ODI GOAT if he has a killer WC this year.
Lol sam Curran was the player of the tournament
Sri Lanka is worse than Bangladesh in ODIs, a country which has never reached semis of a world cup. Kohli played a good knock but 160 against Sri Lanka is no more than 60 against a top team. Sri Lanka is that weak now.
Sri Lanka is worse than Bangladesh in ODIs, a country which has never reached semis of a world cup. Kohli played a good knock but 160 against Sri Lanka is no more than 60 against a top team. Sri Lanka is that weak now.
The difference in number of innings is staggering. He is easily the greatest ODI batsman ever. You have to be bonkers to argue otherwise.
No career is perfect & certainly, the failures in World Cup semifinals & Champions Trophy final count against him but the gulf between him & the rest is too massive for those failures to make any difference.
Ask Pakistani players & fans. Kohli has a massive psychological impact on them. They fear him like no other player regardless of his form.
Regardless of his form, Pakistani bowlers will always bow down to the King.
http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/players/PlayerOpponents_ODI.asp?PlayerID=3600
Kohli has the 3rd lowest average vs Pakistan (his lowest avg is vs NL, then England), so lets just say 2nd lowest avg vs Pakistan.
We all know what happened in the CT17 final, peak Kohli, captain, and decieved in 2 consecutive balls.
http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/players/PlayerOpponents_ODI.asp?PlayerID=3600
Kohli has the 3rd lowest average vs Pakistan (his lowest avg is vs NL, then England), so lets just say 2nd lowest avg vs Pakistan.
We all know what happened in the CT17 final, peak Kohli, captain, and decieved in 2 consecutive balls.
The first 4 in the list debuted and played most of their careers at a time when the ODI rules were different, now the ODI rules favour the batsmen.
- 2 balls in ODI - 2011
- PowerPlay in ODI - 2005 (1st 10 overs only 2 fielders outside the circle, then 4 between 11 - 40, then 5 between 41 - 50.)
- DRS (Player reviews) in ODI - 2011
Kohli's ODI debut was in 2008.
It's no coincidence since said rules were introduced, 300+ scores in ODI have become the norm.
Irrespective of how many cross-era adjustments you make to downplay Kohli, the reality is that his numbers are too phenomenal for these adjustments to make any difference.
Besides, the rules have been the same for everyone. No one comes remotely close to Kohli in the ODI format over the last 10 years.
Simply the GOAT ODI batsman by a massive margin.
1) 183 in the Asia Cup 2012
2) 78* in 2012 T20 World Cup
3) 107 in the 2015 World Cup
4) 55* in the 2016 T20 World Cup
5) 81* in the 2017 Champions Trophy group game
6) 77 in the 2019 World Cup
7) 57 in the 2021 T20 World Cup
8) 60 in Asia Cup 2022
9) 82* in T20 World Cup 2022
No player has dominated & tormented one particular opposition so much over the last 10 years as Kohli has dominated & tormented Pakistan.
Kohli owns Pakistan cricket.
- PowerPlay in ODI - 2005 (1st 10 overs only 2 fielders outside the circle, then 4 between 11 - 40, then 5 between 41 - 50.)
- DRS (Player reviews) in ODI - 2011
None of this changes the fact Kohli has a low average vs. Pakistan compared to other countries he has played against.
Pakistani bowlers must be doing something right!
Most hundreds :-
Kohli - 46
Kane + Root + Williamson - 41
Idnian fans were at his throats a month ago and now he is back go being a GOATbiggest bunch of bandwagon riders I’ve ever seen.
Exactly this. Noticing the same regarding Umran Malik also.![]()
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What was his stat by the way?
This lol.<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Was it not just a few months ago most people were asking for Virat to get dropped and saying all sorts of nasty things? ��<br><br>Where are they now?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShortTermMemories?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ShortTermMemories</a></p>— Tabraiz Shamsi (@shamsi90) <a href="https://twitter.com/shamsi90/status/1614860814489460740?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Man is a pecho frío until he does it when it matters mostIdnian fans were at his throats a month ago and now he is back go being a GOATbiggest bunch of bandwagon riders I’ve ever seen.
Kohli is in this because of his exploits in JAMODIs, man has done nothing at ICC events to be in the conversation. Last chance, now or never. Fraud or GOAT contender.Sorry. Not all.
Firstly, in a population as big as India, there aren’t going to be any homogenous views. There are going to be differing views. Anyone thinking otherwise is a fool.
Some of us have always maintained that Kohli is a GOAT even when he was going through a lean patch. Similarly, many have been consistent in supporting Umran Malik - so not sure about the basis of your statement. I can 2 supportive fans for every one you provide as an example of criticising VK or UA …
The majority dislike is only directed at Kela Rahul for obvious reasons afaik …