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He would an ideal replacement for Azhar at number 3 in the next test with Salman at number 5 will allow Nawaz to come in at number 7 for Multan.
 
Glad he got runs so there’s a positive from this dreadful test match. Hope he gets a proper run and establishes himself.

Now let’s bring in huraira for Azhar and get this done with.
 
Another mediocre player made to look Lara, nothing special will average in 30ish if given a longer rope
 
Can Saud Shakeel take Pakistan to a position of strength today? Now has as fifty.
 
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Such a good player. He is someone who should be invested in and backed for the future, even if he goes through some failures and runs of bad form.

Not only is he technically sound and a natural player of spin, but he also doesn't seem to get bogged down and go into a shell during pressure situations. Which is something we see far too many Pakistani test batters do.

That said, the batting number for him right now is 5. He's not experienced enough to be given the responsibility of batting at 4.
 
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good start to his career, slot in hurraira at three, move bobby and saud down one and you've got a middle order that can play spin.
 
ElRaja said:
good start to his career, slot in hurraira at three, move bobby and saud down one and you've got a middle order that can play spin.
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Lool why should Hurraira move to 3? To protect our Graeme Smith?

Imam needs to go and make way for Hurraira.
 
Marooned said:
Lool why should Hurraira move to 3? To protect our Graeme Smith?

Imam needs to go and make way for Hurraira.
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hurraira is a superior player of spin, his pull shot is a bit sus but he plays compact so is ok against pitch up seam bowling. his max utility is as a number 3.
 
He is very talented, he has a compact technique and he bats well in a partnership with a senior player, such as Babar or Rizwan; but he sometimes looks really nervous, and a fear in his eyes becomes occasionally evident.

Looking at his dismissals in the three innings so far, having played well each time, they have all been poor examples of a batsman falling into a field trap that has been set for him.

He needs some mentoring and looking after in order to reach his potential.
 
Saud Shakeel is notorious for soft dismissals and for throwing away his wicket when set in domestic cricket. No surprise he is doing the same in international cricket.
 
Savak said:
Saud Shakeel is notorious for soft dismissals and for throwing away his wicket when set in domestic cricket. No surprise he is doing the same in international cricket.
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He needs to put a bigger price on his wicket.

I hope he doesn't become a 40s and 50s man.
 
Seems to get starts but then get stuck in a rut, this is a chance for him to cement place in the team. He needs to cash in and start scoring big.
 
Looks tidy but lacks hunger. Has had opps to score 3 100s but has never seriously looked like even one. You can quickly see the type that convert and have to be got out, he isnt one.
 
What a debut series this fellow is having.

You’d think he would have to be there at the end, or close to the end, if Pakistan are to win the Test match tomorrow.
 
Savak said:
Saud Shakeel is notorious for soft dismissals and for throwing away his wicket when set in domestic cricket. No surprise he is doing the same in international cricket.
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You are in a need of some positivity in your cricket.
It's impossible to be that negative about everything. Saud Shakeel has had a very good start to his career.
 
Mobashir said:
You are in a need of some positivity in your cricket.
It's impossible to be that negative about everything. Saud Shakeel has had a very good start to his career.
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Pretty good chance for Saud to register a first Test century tomorrow.
 
Barragan said:
Yeah, he'll definitely be an excellent Test batsman.

Probably not suited for the white ball format, unless he shows something later on today or next game.
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Proving me right here is Saud!

Once he gets that first century, he'll only get more confident and will really start to pile on the runs.

This is also another example of why you need to give the best performing domestic players a chance.

Ghulam, Salahuddin and Huairara need to be given a chance as well.
 
Well played but he should play his strokes more freely.

I am waiting for a new Pakistan batsman to break the shackles from this 30-40 strike rate approach that has plagued our cricket since 2010
 
Get to 150 tomorrow and he's already overtaken Babar in Tests. But most likely will be dismissed early off the pacers.
 
If he doesn't score a century he will be new coming of Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali. Particularly Asad Shafiq who has scored plenty of soft runs which have no impact on match.

Saud shakeel has been playing domestic cricket for a long time. He should make it a big hundred and do his best to win the match.
 
At least we unearthed two good players form the series, Saud and Abrar and got rid of one , Azhar , lots of positives .
 
7 years in First class cricket.

Cannot believe that it's taken the selectors until now to pick him in Test cricket.

Typifies the clueless nature of Pakistan selectors and management.
 
Barragan said:
Proving me right here is Saud!

Once he gets that first century, he'll only get more confident and will really start to pile on the runs.

This is also another example of why you need to give the best performing domestic players a chance.

Ghulam, Salahuddin and Huairara need to be given a chance as well.
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Always said that Saud should be in this xi he's been performing in domestic for last couple years.
 
I don’t think it will be a whitewash.

Pakistan might win this Test match.

Even if England win, there is the third Test to come, and Pakistan often does well at Karachi.
 
James said:
Pretty good chance for Saud to register a first Test century tomorrow.
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Yes, he looked very solid today. He will also need some help from his patners.

I Still think Pakistan can't win the match because if Stokes start bowling from round the wicket to left handers he will get them with reverse swing. He is a brilliant bowler when he is needed.
 
Bewal Express said:
Looks tidy but lacks hunger. Has had opps to score 3 100s but has never seriously looked like even one. You can quickly see the type that convert and have to be got out, he isnt one.
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Should send a clear messege at the start of his career. We can afford another Asad Shafiq.
 
Saj said:
7 years in First class cricket.

Cannot believe that it's taken the selectors until now to pick him in Test cricket.

Typifies the clueless nature of Pakistan selectors and management.
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Kamran Ghulam still rotting in the domestics whilst Salman Agha needs one decent season and Shan Masood just needs to speak good English to be in the squad
 
Saj said:
7 years in First class cricket.

Cannot believe that it's taken the selectors until now to pick him in Test cricket.

Typifies the clueless nature of Pakistan selectors and management.
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That's because the likes of AA are given decade long careers when they should play a maximum of 30 tests( if that many). If AA was Ind, he would barely a 1st FC player, he definitely wouldn't have played for Australia or SA. He might have played a few tests for England and NZ but for us he has played for 12 years.
 
Too early to predict his long term success in tests but with 6-7 years of FC cricket behind him and good start of his test career , although on flat wickets , he looks a solid prospect for Pakistan's test line up.

He is not and probably will never be a T20 batsman .

For ODI, you need brain, temperament , skill and power game . Only thing he lacks , and is very important , is the power game, but he can work on it . Saeed Anwar, like him was not a big man but was a great ODI player and was ahead of his time . Haris is tiny but has bower game .

Compared to guys with no brain and technique ( Khushdil, Asif and Haider ) , I would take Saud and Abdullag for ODI.
 
Bewal Express said:
That's because the likes of AA are given decade long careers when they should play a maximum of 30 tests( if that many). If AA was Ind, he would barely a 1st FC player, he definitely wouldn't have played for Australia or SA. He might have played a few tests for England and NZ but for us he has played for 12 years.
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Well our selectors don't like to drop some players struggling, but in other scenarios they drop players after only 1 Test.
 
Saj said:
Well our selectors don't like to drop some players struggling, but in other scenarios they drop players after only 1 Test.
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Selectors have to have good judgement and a board that backs them. Our selectors not only lack judgement, they lack courage because of a terrible board. I dare anyone tell me that the likes of AA would have played much for any self respecting team.
 
Xoib said:
He has a great conversion rate at FC level i dont think you can doubt a batsman hunger if he averages over 52 in a 7 season career
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7 seasons!! How is he just debuting
 
Xoib said:
He has a great conversion rate at FC level i dont think you can doubt a batsman hunger if he averages over 52 in a 7 season career
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Not on evidence presented. I am hoping he kicks on but my 1st instincts are very rarely wrong. Good players don't get out very often, they have to be got out.
 
The guy apparently averages the best in the fourth innings in FC.
 
Will be out before lunch tomorrow

If he sees them through then shows he’s got balls of steel and shows he has test match potential. If he gets out early then shows he’s a mental midget like the rest
 
adzzy786 said:
Will be out before lunch tomorrow

If he sees them through then shows he’s got balls of steel and shows he has test match potential. If he gets out early then shows he’s a mental midget like the rest
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Tomorrow is acid test for him, not only does he need to get a 100 but needs to try and control inns being only genuine batsmen left.

Worry is i can see him getting out in 1st session tomorrow.
 
James said:
7 seasons!! How is he just debuting
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Because Pakistani selection is a banana republic.
There’s 2 other guys Kamran Ghulam and Usman Salahuddin with a similar FC record. But they were ignored in favor of Agha Salman who has a modest record, reportedly based on a referral from coach Yousuf.
 
There will be lots of plans being made for him overnight. Tests are the ultimate examination.
 
Rana said:
Kamran Ghulam still rotting in the domestics whilst Salman Agha needs one decent season and Shan Masood just needs to speak good English to be in the squad
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Agha's had several good seasons. These are his QEA averages:

2019/20 - 74
2020/21 - 58
2021/22 - 46
2022/23 - 55

Ideally, these top QEA performers need to be taken on A tours to really gauge their ability. However Ramiz has totally neglected this in favour of pet projects like PJL and drop-ins.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Tomorrow is acid test for him, not only does he need to get a 100 but needs to try and control inns being only genuine batsmen left.

Worry is i can see him getting out in 1st session tomorrow.
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Come on Amjid bhai- that is toooooo much pressure on a guy playing his 5th innings in tests. He just needs to make sure he doesnt get out in the first session. That is it.

Cant expect him to be marshalling a record test win from being in a hopeless position at 775-3 chasing 355 on a turning wicket.

Hope he does well for himself first
 
Markhor said:
Agha's had several good seasons. These are his QEA averages:

2019/20 - 74
2020/21 - 58
2021/22 - 46
2022/23 - 55

Ideally, these top QEA performers need to be taken on A tours to really gauge their ability. However Ramiz has totally neglected this in favour of pet projects like PJL and drop-ins.
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He had only played 3 matches in 2019/20. Kamran and Saud outperformed in the next season(when they all played full season). Even in this season , many batsmen have outperformed him. We also need to look at how someone like Usman Salauddin has scored with grace ball whereas Agha had extremely garbage numbers with grace/Duke balls.

He is a parchi selection. Please make proper comparison.
 
shah_1 said:
He had only played 3 matches in 2019/20. Kamran and Saud outperformed in the next season(when they all played full season). Even in this season , many batsmen have outperformed him. We also need to look at how someone like Usman Salauddin has scored with grace ball whereas Agha had extremely garbage numbers with grace/Duke balls.

He is a parchi selection. Please make proper comparison.
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100% aligned. These FC numbers are overinflated. At least 25 batsmen average over 55 in this season.

Saud and Usman Salahuddin are the 2 standouts as they have done well even during bowler friendly era with grace/dukes balls. They should have been preferred over Agha.
 
Good watertight defense and is good while attacking spin. Should atleast play tests on Asia. Challenge for him is whether he can adjust to the higher bouncing SENA wickets.
 
Needs to get a match winning 100 here and make a name for himself.
 
Ya Allah, Saud kou himnat day century banany ki, Ameen.
 
He is a defensive player who some how gets out at wrong time every now and then, better to invest in more aggressive batter
 
Pakistan have found a gem for years to come.

Well batted Saud Shakeel.
 
He will probably end up as a king of soft and unexpected dismissal, he always does that in domestic cricket.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
He is a defensive player who some how gets out at wrong time every now and then, better to invest in more aggressive batter
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Haan bradman is mulk mai road pay miltay hain

Great start to test career tougher tests await.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Good watertight defense and is good while attacking spin. Should atleast play tests on Asia. Challenge for him is whether he can adjust to the higher bouncing SENA wickets.
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Yes thats a test awaits him... Overall good and reliable player to bat at no.4 and 5 in Asia..

Would like to see him get some more muscles built and also improve his range of shots against pacers..
 
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ask_analyse_act said:
Yes thats a test awaits him... Overall good and reliable player to bat at no.4 and 5 in Asia..

Would like to see him get some more muscles built and also improve his range of shots against pacers..
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Honestly, the batting talent in Pakistan is actually a fair bit more impressive than the bowling for this format. If Hurraira can be added to this lineup along with Bobby , AS and Saud, thats a good test batting lineup.

Pakistan need quality test bowlers from somewhere. If they can get a couple of those, I expect them to be properly competitive.
 
Reminds me of Asim Kamal who was unfairly treated, hopefully that won't happen with Saud now.
 
Should have got a 100 and won game, yet another soft dismissal in series.
 
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PakHammer said:
Reminds me of Asim Kamal who was unfairly treated, hopefully that won't happen with Saud now.
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Asim Kamal was the Asad Shafiq of his generation. Average & limited player who was never great in domestic either. His ceiling was an average of 35-40.

That was never going to be enough in an era where Pakistan had a middle order of three 50+ averaging batsman in Younis, Yousuf & Inzamam & all-rounders like Afridi, Malik & Razzaq who were also averaging in the 30s with the bat.

In addition, Misbah was knocking on the door who was a superior batsman than Kamal. He was not treated unfairly; he was treated exactly how he deserved to be treated.

If Shafiq was dropped after 12 Tests instead of 77, people same fans who wanted him gone would have stated that he was unfairly treated.

These days, Pakistan’s batting standards are at an all time low. It is almost a borderline minnow team so a batsman like Shakeel who can average 42-44 in the long run at a 50+ SR will definitely get a long rope.
 
Mamoon said:
Asim Kamal was the Asad Shafiq of his generation. Average & limited player who was never great in domestic either. His ceiling was an average of 35-40.

That was never going to be enough in an era where Pakistan had a middle order of three 50+ averaging batsman in Younis, Yousuf & Inzamam & all-rounders like Afridi, Malik & Razzaq who were also averaging in the 30s with the bat.

In addition, Misbah was knocking on the door who was a superior batsman than Kamal. He was not treated unfairly; he was treated exactly how he deserved to be treated.

If Shafiq was dropped after 12 Tests instead of 77, people same fans who wanted him gone would have stated that he was unfairly treated.

These days, Pakistan’s batting standards are at an all time low. It is almost a borderline minnow team so a batsman like Shakeel who can average 42-44 in the long run at a 50+ SR will definitely get a long rope.
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Normally I wouldn’t do you the courtesy of a reply but you are so wrong I can’t stop chuckling. You were probably not born when Asim Kamal made his debut in 2003 and scored 99 against South Africa and continued with a few other high scores before being inexplicably dropped in favour of players like Faisal Iqbal and Shohaib Malik. It’s just the approach pak wanted at the time , misbah was nowhere near his recall..that happened in 2007. Pak were simply experimenting with a bunch of world class middle order all rounders , Malik, hafeez, afridi, razzaq etc. some turned out to be not as good as hoped but if you continually chop and change on a whim you also won’t get the best out of your players.

Asim was nothing like shafique. Technically asad had a broader range of shots and went at a faster clip but as was later proven was good at soft runs but Asim had the ability to play on tough pitches and drop anchor if needed by cutting out all loose strokes. Of course he didn’t help his own cause in his later innings but nobody can deny those 90’s in tough conditions deserved a longer run than Faisal Iqbal got.

Saud Shakeel we will have to wait and see. He definitely is better in this match than his debut in pindi but that was a very flat pitch he ought to have cashed in. I’m worried he’ll be a stroke less wonder cashing in on soft runs ala shafiq
 
Saud Shakeel reflects on the 2nd Test

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Abid Z said:
Normally I wouldn’t do you the courtesy of a reply but you are so wrong I can’t stop chuckling. You were probably not born when Asim Kamal made his debut in 2003 and scored 99 against South Africa and continued with a few other high scores before being inexplicably dropped in favour of players like Faisal Iqbal and Shohaib Malik. It’s just the approach pak wanted at the time , misbah was nowhere near his recall..that happened in 2007. Pak were simply experimenting with a bunch of world class middle order all rounders , Malik, hafeez, afridi, razzaq etc. some turned out to be not as good as hoped but if you continually chop and change on a whim you also won’t get the best out of your players.

Asim was nothing like shafique. Technically asad had a broader range of shots and went at a faster clip but as was later proven was good at soft runs but Asim had the ability to play on tough pitches and drop anchor if needed by cutting out all loose strokes. Of course he didn’t help his own cause in his later innings but nobody can deny those 90’s in tough conditions deserved a longer run than Faisal Iqbal got.

Saud Shakeel we will have to wait and see. He definitely is better in this match than his debut in pindi but that was a very flat pitch he ought to have cashed in. I’m worried he’ll be a stroke less wonder cashing in on soft runs ala shafiq
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Asim Kamal was average. It is typical Pakistani delusional thinking that he was robbed of a great career.

I saw his entire career starting from his debut. He was no better than someone like Asad Shafiq.

There is a reason why Asim Kamal averaged 33 in First Class cricket after over 120 matches. When you are an average player in First Class cricket (domestic), you are almost always going to be an average Test player.

A player who cannot even average 40+ in domestic cricket was never going to average 40+ in Test cricket.

Asim Kamal was put out to pasture at the right time & it is one of the rare instances where Pakistan did not drag a mediocre player for years before realizing that he is mediocre.

If only they had done the same with Azhar & Shafiq earlier. Thankfully, they didn’t let Asim Kamal, their third brother, drag his career for a decade averaging 37-38.

Asim Kamal had a very good start to his Test career. He did really well against South Africa in 2003 & also played some good knocks in Australia & India.

However, he failed in West Indies in 2005 & at home against England & he was rightfully dropped.

Misbah was scoring heavily in domestic cricket at the time but he couldn’t get into the side because Pakistan had Younis, Yousuf & Inzamam at 3,4,5 & the number 6 position was reserved for an all-rounder.

When Inzamam retired in 2007, Misbah was given preference & Asim Kamal was not given a chance to come back & for good reason because he was struggling in domestic cricket.

In 2006, Faisal Iqbal was given preference & rightly so. He was 6 years younger & outperforming him in domestic cricket.

Asim Kamal did not score quicker than Shafiq. Their strike rates are almost identical. They both have almost identical averages in Test cricket & First Class cricket.

They also had similar demeanors as players - timid, nervous & never looked dominant. The fact that Asim Kamal got out in the 90s a couple of times & never got over the line is an illustration of his lack of confidence.

The only difference between the two was that Shafiq was allowed to play 77 Tests while Kamal was dropped after 15. They were virtually the same players with the same performance & same potential.

If Shafiq would have been dropped in 2011-12 after 15 Tests, you would feel sorry for him today.

I would feel bad for Asim Kamal if he didn’t have such an average domestic career. You have no hope of getting back into the side when you can’t even perform in domestic cricket.
 
Looks like a pretty good, solid player who needs some support from the top order.
 
Really good find.

Shafique, Babar and Shakeel, Pakistan have the makings of a good batting line-up.

Looked mature and like he had played more than 20 tests.

Imam also looks ok to me.
 
Looks like a good Test prospect - has a good temperament, knows where his off stump is most times, and has a decent defensive technique. His test will come on SENA wickets where the ball does a bit, but I think he has it in him to succeed there.
 
Mamoon said:
Asim Kamal was average. It is typical Pakistani delusional thinking that he was robbed of a great career.

I saw his entire career starting from his debut. He was no better than someone like Asad Shafiq.

There is a reason why Asim Kamal averaged 33 in First Class cricket after over 120 matches. When you are an average player in First Class cricket (domestic), you are almost always going to be an average Test player.

A player who cannot even average 40+ in domestic cricket was never going to average 40+ in Test cricket.

Asim Kamal was put out to pasture at the right time & it is one of the rare instances where Pakistan did not drag a mediocre player for years before realizing that he is mediocre.

If only they had done the same with Azhar & Shafiq earlier. Thankfully, they didn’t let Asim Kamal, their third brother, drag his career for a decade averaging 37-38.

Asim Kamal had a very good start to his Test career. He did really well against South Africa in 2003 & also played some good knocks in Australia & India.

However, he failed in West Indies in 2005 & at home against England & he was rightfully dropped.

Misbah was scoring heavily in domestic cricket at the time but he couldn’t get into the side because Pakistan had Younis, Yousuf & Inzamam at 3,4,5 & the number 6 position was reserved for an all-rounder.

When Inzamam retired in 2007, Misbah was given preference & Asim Kamal was not given a chance to come back & for good reason because he was struggling in domestic cricket.

In 2006, Faisal Iqbal was given preference & rightly so. He was 6 years younger & outperforming him in domestic cricket.

Asim Kamal did not score quicker than Shafiq. Their strike rates are almost identical. They both have almost identical averages in Test cricket & First Class cricket.

They also had similar demeanors as players - timid, nervous & never looked dominant. The fact that Asim Kamal got out in the 90s a couple of times & never got over the line is an illustration of his lack of confidence.

The only difference between the two was that Shafiq was allowed to play 77 Tests while Kamal was dropped after 15. They were virtually the same players with the same performance & same potential.

If Shafiq would have been dropped in 2011-12 after 15 Tests, you would feel sorry for him today.

I would feel bad for Asim Kamal if he didn’t have such an average domestic career. You have no hope of getting back into the side when you can’t even perform in domestic cricket.
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What a strange post. These two players were nothing alike in their playing style. It's very strange that you should should these two for comparison purposes. They were miles apart in how they played.
 
Saud has had a bright start to his career. Could easily have gotten a century here. His first class stats are excellent. Hopefully a good, long term prospect for Pakistan.
 
As far as comparisons to Shafique,well Shafique has also had an excellent start to his career but his playing style so far to me is unconvincing. Will have to see how he does in other conditions. He seems too tentative to me and his strike rate is too low. I remember Chappell saying that the mark of a good batsman (way back 20 years ago) was a strike rate of above 50 at least. Striking at 39-41 is not very good and not dominating.

Shafique is very young and very new so hopefully he will pick that up.
 
Last thing we need is another Azhar Ali - an all-weather 30-40 strike rate batsman. He's good if you want to save a test on the last day, otherwise he just kills the momentum and lets the bowlers get a good rhythm going.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
As far as comparisons to Shafique,well Shafique has also had an excellent start to his career but his playing style so far to me is unconvincing. Will have to see how he does in other conditions. He seems too tentative to me and his strike rate is too low. I remember Chappell saying that the mark of a good batsman (way back 20 years ago) was a strike rate of above 50 at least. Striking at 39-41 is not very good and not dominating.

Shafique is very young and very new so hopefully he will pick that up.
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I like him.

He is very young and has had limited 1st class experience.

Also, guys who can occupy the crease and perhaps make things easier for others can be valuable (like Pujara).

Like India it just seems the selectors do not pick the right players and are afraid of tough decisions.
 
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