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[VIDEOS] Saud Shakeel performance watch in international matches

England and Stokes figured out his release shots were the sweep and the slog sweep, leg side swipe on the leg side. Stokes countered that placing a fielder at deep wicket and Saud did not have the Cajones to try that shot again because he knew he didn't have the skills, power to clear those fielders and Saud did not have any other alternative shots to counter the field placings. Pakistan just don't produce 360 players in comparison to other teams.
 
If a batsman bats out there for 30 overs, he is expected to switch gears and take the team over the finishing line, not to leave them hanging. I hope he gets a tongue lashing by the team management if he is satisfied with his 94 runs.
 
shah_1 said:
He had only played 3 matches in 2019/20. Kamran and Saud outperformed in the next season(when they all played full season). Even in this season , many batsmen have outperformed him. We also need to look at how someone like Usman Salauddin has scored with grace ball whereas Agha had extremely garbage numbers with grace/Duke balls.

He is a parchi selection. Please make proper comparison.
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I'm not saying Agha is some special talent. I was replying to a poster saying he had one good FC season which is false. However I dislike Pakistani fans labelling players parchi unjustly when they've genuinely performed in FC cricket.

Nowhere did I argue Agha is better than Saud or Kamran or Salahuddin, but if you analyse the numbers then his are up there, and he outperformed Kamran Ghulam this season and last season.

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I know his overall FC average is 39. Babar's and Imam's were even lower before making Test debuts. My point is I don't see how that's a parchi selection. If you think he's a rubbish player - then blame Wasim and Yousuf.
 
Savak said:
If a batsman bats out there for 30 overs, he is expected to switch gears and take the team over the finishing line, not to leave them hanging. I hope he gets a tongue lashing by the team management if he is satisfied with his 94 runs.
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You can only blame a batsman for execution,poor thinking or a poor shot. His thinking in the 1st innings can be seen to be poor execution but here he was just unlucky.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
What a strange post. These two players were nothing alike in their playing style. It's very strange that you should should these two for comparison purposes. They were miles apart in how they played.
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Both had identical Test & FC averages & strike rates. Both were very moderate in terms of their strike rates, they had similar presence on the crease & were not particular great against any type of bowling. They were dogged & had decent technique although it never translated into prolific run scoring, hence the below 40 averages.

When I say they are virtually the same I mean in terms of potential, skill, run scoring, body language etc., not necessarily how they held the bat. A left-handed batsman will not visually look similar to a right-handed batsman anyway.
 
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I was saying 3 years ago Saud should be selected and can do a job in tests I was right same as I was saying Umar Akmal should’ve been selected during his prime but wasn’t.

Now I’m saying Haider should be selected no more 40 strike rate batsmen please no more Azhar Ali Shan Masood type batsmen there’s already too many in the team aggression is ideal on these low bounce flat wickets.
 
Saud Shakeel has progressed 33 places to 61st position in latest ICC Test rankings for batters
 
Should be a permanent member or the xi now they need to bring in Kamran Ghulam and Hurraira.
 
He can be Pakistan’s middle order rock.

There is a glimmer of promise in the Pak batting.

The real worry is the bowling.
 
James said:
He can be Pakistan’s middle order rock.

There is a glimmer of promise in the Pak batting.

The real worry is the bowling.
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This. Out selectors are so dumb at making this jigsaw , but finally by hook or by crook they have put another piece of this jigsaw in the right place.
Our problem now is back up bowlers. We have 0 depth in that regard.
Need to get Hurraira in at number 3 in this team and let these guys bat.

Abdullah
Imam/Shan
Hurraira
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Faheem
All-rounder
Shaheen
Naseem
Abrar

We have the makings of a decent first eleven.
Need to unearth more spinners
 
James said:
He can be Pakistan’s middle order rock.

There is a glimmer of promise in the Pak batting.

The real worry is the bowling.
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I would rephrase it as depth in bowling as Pakistan’s first choice bowling is unavailable with the absence of Shaheen and Naseem. They need to relook at Abbas and give Rauf a longer run to see if he can replicate his exploits in red ball format. Shadab Khan needs to be included and am not sure if it’s due to fitness.
 
Abdullah said:
This. Out selectors are so dumb at making this jigsaw , but finally by hook or by crook they have put another piece of this jigsaw in the right place.
Our problem now is back up bowlers. We have 0 depth in that regard.
Need to get Hurraira in at number 3 in this team and let these guys bat.

Abdullah
Imam/Shan
Hurraira
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Faheem
All-rounder
Shaheen
Naseem
Abrar

We have the makings of a decent first eleven.
Need to unearth more spinners
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Batting is too thin with Faheem at no7. Faheem is at best a no8. They should include another specialist bowler or batsman.
 
Abdullah said:
This. Out selectors are so dumb at making this jigsaw , but finally by hook or by crook they have put another piece of this jigsaw in the right place.
Our problem now is back up bowlers. We have 0 depth in that regard.
Need to get Hurraira in at number 3 in this team and let these guys bat.

Abdullah
Imam/Shan
Hurraira
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Faheem
All-rounder
Shaheen
Naseem
Abrar

We have the makings of a decent first eleven.
Need to unearth more spinners
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Mubasir should be in the test squad at 7.
 
Farabi said:
I would rephrase it as depth in bowling as Pakistan’s first choice bowling is unavailable with the absence of Shaheen and Naseem. They need to relook at Abbas and give Rauf a longer run to see if he can replicate his exploits in red ball format. Shadab Khan needs to be included and am not sure if it’s due to fitness.
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It will be tough for Rauf to bowl at 90+ and play all three formats.
 
Farabi said:
Batting is too thin with Faheem at no7. Faheem is at best a no8. They should include another specialist bowler or batsman.
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Agreed. Shadab and he should have been nurtured for 7 and 8. I don't think nawaz is good enough but he can do the job in Asia for now
 
Done well so far - now need to help Babar take the game away from England
 
Wasn't picking Rehan at all.

Seemed to be just pushing at the ball - missed a googly, then next ball didn't read the leggie and was out.

One thing I feel he needs to work on his is his shot range - seems to get bogged down at times instead of looking for singles.
 
James said:
Gets done by the googly-legspinner combo.
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Very disappointing from Saud. I feel a 50 or 100 was there for him today

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Got starts every inn's this series and got out, needs to improve strike rotation, playing in survival mode on such flat tracks is poor. A lot of improvement needed.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Got starts every inn's this series and got out, needs to improve strike rotation, playing in survival mode on such flat tracks is poor. A lot of improvement needed.
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Another good start - let's see how long this can go.
 
Like the energizer bunny on this tour - keeps on going on and on

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Another start and another throw away, same all series.
 
Cheaper version of Asad Shafiq.

Shafiq at least use to score the odd hundred in losing causes.

Shakeel only scores 50s in losing causes.
 
Another Strokeless Wonder. His technique is really suspect. Bat's face is towards mid wicket when he defends straight balls.
 
Rather he scores 50 odd before getting out than a duck like Azhar Ali... We are making progress with him in the side. Once we bring in Ghulam and Huraira, we will further improve!
 
gazza619 said:
Cheaper version of Asad Shafiq.

Shafiq at least use to score the odd hundred in losing causes.

Shakeel only scores 50s in losing causes.
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Shafiq would have scored a 100 today, Situation was tailor-made for his 100.
 
This Saud asad Shafiq guy has scored runs in every innings and all runs are in losing cause.
He has yet to score a hundred. He has just scored soft runs.

He is just the new Asad Shafiq.
 
A very capable red ball batsman but loses it mentally and gets out after 50. Needs to work on the psychological element of his Test game.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Another start and another throw away, same all series.
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Saud dismissal

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a tiny silver lining in a cloud of misery that was this series, pak have no option but to stick with him, hopefully he starts converting 50s to 100s soon, should bat higher going forward.
 
I think he has been overburdened with much responsibility rather too soon.. hes being tasked to save / win the matches, right from the second innings of his debut match…with almost allsenrior players failing..with exception of maybe babar, (who also is not converting his starts into meaningful 100s) and probably Imam in few innings.. everytime he has come to bat..team is in dire situation..and hes expected to bail out the team…or win.. i think its too much a task for someone who has just debuted into test side.. for someone like him…hes still doing his job much better than most in his place would have done.. obviously will only improve with time.. … too much expectation from him…which is also probably a by product..of how well he has performed in this series.. Had he not performed so well..on almost all occasion, of stablising the team, under pressure…none would have expected a debutant to save/win matches alone, right from the get go…
 
Now this guy is a proper selection. He already played more than 50 FC games and averaged above 50. This shows domestic experience matters. Fast tracking of so called talented youngsters must stop.
 
Seems like one of of only two or three players that have contributed to the team during the series. Absolute disgrace that only getting a run now after being identified as a prospect many years ago.
 
as-95 said:
And Azhar Ali [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]
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He's a very good player but its too early to compare him to a Pakistani great like Azhar Ali.

Let him be himself and chart his own path instead of needlessly comparing him to others.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
He's a very good player but its too early to compare him to a Pakistani great like Azhar Ali.

Let him be himself and chart his own path instead of needlessly comparing him to others.
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Lol, thank you sir! Was hoping for a nice chuckle during my workout and you certainly provided it!
 
He has shown glimpses that he can cut it at this level with respect to Pakistani standards. Showed he also has the capability to bat at 50SR at the very least. However, he needs a captain and a management that builds up and enhances his skills. But unfortunately, he's under a captain as timid as Babar so nothing will happen for his career.
 
I would like to see him at number 3 in the next series. The last thing Pakistan should do is to lock that position for Mr. zero talent Shan Masood, but it won’t be surprising when you see how brain dead this management is.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not many positives in the Test series and whilst he didn't score a hundred, Saud Shakeel has impressed:<br><br>Innings 6<br>Runs 346<br>Average 57.66<br>Fifties 4<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvENG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvENG</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1604896612093988883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Saud has batted at 3 for his domestic team so that's were he should be batting in the next Series and he should have been in the xi atleast 1 year ago.
 
Saud out for 22 today although a bit out of character for him to slash away outside off
 
He has been guilty of not converting his starts even in domestic cricket. Loads of scores in the 50's, 60's and 70's before throwing his wicket away via a soft dismissal.

Selectors need to watch out for these things in players
 
What a pathetic shot that was.

There's playing with positivity and there's throwing your wicket away.

Lousy shot.
 
Saj said:
What a pathetic shot that was.

There's playing with positivity and there's throwing your wicket away.

Lousy shot.
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I don’t find him that impressive, even though he has had a decent start to his career. It’s either block or hit hard for him, and at no point do you feel he is dominating the game.

Throws his wicket away too when well set, so he has to work on that aswell.
 
I like Saud but I'm afraid he has a reputation for airy-fairy dismissals even in FC cricket. Gives it away too softly when set.
 
Today's dismissal was such a basic and predictable set up.

Block his runs and then bowl a wide one which he will play a loose shot at - that's exactly what he did.

If he isn't careful he will become a nearly man - someone who plays nice 30s and 40s and leaves with a Test average of 35.
 
Agree with the posters here, he looked good in his innings until he threw his wicket away.

I get the idea is to be positive but don't be brainless. Should of left the delivery.
 
Pretty pathetic to get on the back of a guy just starting his career and assuming his future.

Babar didn't start off brightly either and there were even calls to drop him, but Micky stuck with him and Pak are reaping the rewards.

Saud is definitely worth sticking with and he'll only get better as time goes on.
 
Seems to cause his own issues by just constantly blocking and his release shot ends up being one back to the pavilion, really needs to improve his strike rotation and scoring.
 
LegendAli said:
People consider 22 odd runs as having a start?
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In Test cricket, anyone including the greats can be picked up for a cheap score early in their innings, so getting into the 20s absolutely is a start.

30+ balls should be enough for a Test match batsman to adjust to the bounce, judge if there is any movement, and get a feel for the conditions.

A batsman in the top order or upper middle order, as Saud is, should be targeting a far larger contribution and an innings that is meaningful in the context of the game if he gets into the 20s.
 
Done well Saud to hold the innings together - will be a hero if he can draw the game for Pakistan
 
Brilliant innings today - just the right amount of defence and aggression.

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RedwoodOriginal said:
He's a very good player but its too early to compare him to a Pakistani great like Azhar Ali.

Let him be himself and chart his own path instead of needlessly comparing him to others.
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Seriously are these the standards we have for a Pakistani great? :facepalm
 
He will do well at 6, not authoritative enough for 5. Played well today and handled the rough really as well as marshaling the tail. Slowly the new batting is starting to take shape
 
topspin said:
Seriously are these the standards we have for a Pakistani great? :facepalm
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Shame this guy already 27 years of age has been delayed for so long in order to accommodate wasters like Azhar Ali, Fawad, Asad Shafiq and other garbage.

Proves there's players out there that need to be given the chance before they hit late twenties and thirties.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Impressive start to his international career for Saud Shakeel. Looks a player with a solid technique, excellent temperament and a bright future <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvsNZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvsNZ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1608832692212363268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Kroll said:
Shame this guy already 27 years of age has been delayed for so long in order to accommodate wasters like Azhar Ali, Fawad, Asad Shafiq and other garbage.

Proves there's players out there that need to be given the chance before they hit late twenties and thirties.
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It's shame that we had wait nearly a decade to get rid of the dross because we didn't play good teams on a consistent basis. We need more competition for all our player's, our players generally become lazy when they don't have to fight for their place and their performance drops.
 
If a player has talent and performs consistently then he should be given a chance irrespective of his age.Shakeel should have been selected three or four years back.I hope youngsters like Huraira,Saim,Mubasir,Omair etc are not treated unfairly.They shouldn’t have to wait until they are close to 30 to make a debut for Pakistan.
 
Fenrir said:
If a player has talent and performs consistently then he should be given a chance irrespective of his age.Shakeel should have been selected three or four years back.I hope youngsters like Huraira,Saim,Mubasir,Omair etc are not treated unfairly.They shouldn’t have to wait until they are close to 30 to make a debut for Pakistan.
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Absolutely, look at Harry Brooks and Ben Duckett, guys in their early twenties with Eng reaping the rewards.
 
Bewal Express said:
It's shame that we had wait nearly a decade to get rid of the dross because we didn't play good teams on a consistent basis. We need more competition for all our player's, our players generally become lazy when they don't have to fight for their place and their performance drops.
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And when they become seniors, they become undroppable because we need to 'put a respec' on their name'.
 
Kroll said:
And when they become seniors, they become undroppable because we need to 'put a respec' on their name'.
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Its the nonsense that they and the illiterate media keep perpetuating. In self respecting country would the likes of Hafeez, Malik and AA played so much for so little return.
 
Kroll said:
Absolutely, look at Harry Brooks and Ben Duckett, guys in their early twenties with Eng reaping the rewards.
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Ben Duckett is 28 btw and made his Test debut in 2016. Struggled vs spin and in India and promptly dropped for a very long time. That is something you would see in Pakistan.
 
I will never understand how it took forever for Saud to get his Test debut despite Pakistan batting woes since MisYou retirement. Every year he performed in FC and his technique looked solid & classy... and yet, they brought back Fawad to fix a decade old mistake and gave Salman a debut over him and persisted with Azhar for a long time.

Disappointing stuff because fans have been calling for his debut forever and what do ya know, a player with great FC record and looks solid technically is performing solid and already looking like the 2nd most reliable batsmen after Babar.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Ben Duckett is 28 btw and made his Test debut in 2016. Struggled vs spin and in India and promptly dropped for a very long time. That is something you would see in Pakistan.
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My bad, might have been Will Jacks I was thinking of.
 
Nasty Naz said:
I will never understand how it took forever for Saud to get his Test debut despite Pakistan batting woes since MisYou retirement. Every year he performed in FC and his technique looked solid & classy... and yet, they brought back Fawad to fix a decade old mistake and gave Salman a debut over him and persisted with Azhar for a long time.

Disappointing stuff because fans have been calling for his debut forever and what do ya know, a player with great FC record and looks solid technically is performing solid and already looking like the 2nd most reliable batsmen after Babar.
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Even Salman debuts at 29! But yeah, the Saud non selection is a debacle.
 
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