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[VIDEOS] Shaheen Shah Afridi as captain of Lahore Qalandars - performance watch

Saj said:
Possibly.

Seemed to be really angry and almost out of control which could have been very costly for LQ.

Even the commentators were observing just how charged up he was.
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He wanted to bat first (lost the toss) and knew he had to get 6 wickets on 6 balls in his first over in his mind to make sure he restricts PZ to below 50, something LQ can chase

Didn’t get swing, didn’t get wickets, didn’t get to bowl much to Babar and therefore he completely lost the plot.

Bowled a third over in the powerplay because he was embarrassed and humiliated by Harris who is a junior to him. He wanted to get him out only to tell him he is the boss

Egotistical, childish and immature person
 
Rana said:
He wanted to bat first (lost the toss) and knew he had to get 6 wickets on 6 balls in his first over in his mind to make sure he restricts PZ to below 50, something LQ can chase

Didn’t get swing, didn’t get wickets, didn’t get to bowl much to Babar and therefore he completely lost the plot.

Bowled a third over in the powerplay because he was embarrassed and humiliated by Harris who is a junior to him. He wanted to get him out only to tell him he is the boss

Egotistical, childish and immature person
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I completely agree with what you've said here.

Harsh words here towards Shaheen but warranted.

He's let his captaincy get to his head and as you've pointed out before he's abusing his power.

He's better than Babar but he ain't captaincy material.
 
topspin said:
I completely agree with what you've said here.

Harsh words here towards Shaheen but warranted.

He's let his captaincy get to his head and as you've pointed out before he's abusing his power.

He's better than Babar but he ain't captaincy material.
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Not just captaincy. National fame and stardom too. It’s doing his head in. His cryptic tweets, sochnabhimanahai etc.

The guy is trying fly before he can walk, let alone run.
 
Rana said:
Not just captaincy. National fame and stardom too. It’s doing his head in. His cryptic tweets, sochnabhimanahai etc.

The guy is trying fly before he can walk, let alone run.
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I think I have explained to you before but you keep on repeating yourself.

This hashtag is in EVERY tweet by LQ

Maybe you should also ask Aaqib Javed same question as he is part of the management.
 
LQ COO speaking to the media:

"After every match, news starts spreading about Shaheen being unwell. Shaheen is completely fine, and if he isn't, we will be the first to rest him,"

This seems to be in response to Shahid Afridi's comments:

"Shaheen has been suffering from fever for the last couple of days, and he also played yesterday's match with a fever,”

“If you have a fever, then I don't think you should play, but he [Shaheen] wanted to win the match and then rest until the final"
 
MenInG said:
LQ COO speaking to the media:

"After every match, news starts spreading about Shaheen being unwell. Shaheen is completely fine, and if he isn't, we will be the first to rest him,"

This seems to be in response to Shahid Afridi's comments:

"Shaheen has been suffering from fever for the last couple of days, and he also played yesterday's match with a fever,”

“If you have a fever, then I don't think you should play, but he [Shaheen] wanted to win the match and then rest until the final"
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You can easily tell that Shaheen has the urge to play as many matches as possible even if he's injured. It's up to LQ and Pakistan's management to stop him from doing so.
 
topspin said:
I completely agree with what you've said here.

Harsh words here towards Shaheen but warranted.

He's let his captaincy get to his head and as you've pointed out before he's abusing his power.

He's better than Babar but he ain't captaincy material.
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SSA has always been aggressive after getting hit for boundaries. Remember last year when Shaheen threw the ball at Pandya? Or the time he started mouthing off to an Afghan opener in a 2019 World Cup warmup game? Even when he wasn't the captain of LQ he was throwing balls back at the batsmen after getting hit for a boundary.

This isn't an ego thing, he has always been like this.
 
SSA has long career ahead, he should focus on returning to test cricket and win few test matches against strong teams. PCB must focus on developing lethal fast bowlers for test team with some specialist spinners. Team is badly struggling in this area
 
He’s very aggressive and can lose his rag.

But make no mistake, the lad is a brave, brave captain.

Sticking by Tahir Baig after Tahir’s failure against Multan in Qualifier 1. That’s giving belief to a young player.

Picking, relying on and promoting a young player like Ahsan Bhatti in a knockout game. The courage it takes to do that.

Intelligently using his own bowling resources, really stands out to me. Most captains would have done the usual and bowl Rashid Khan out. Shaheen removed him after two overs, used Bhatti and then brought Rashid back, who Babar struggles against if he doesn’t play him consistently. Result, they got Babar.

Trusting in Zaman, even if Zaman goes for runs.

Trusting in Rauf, even if Rauf has been expensive this PSL.

The atmosphere you cultivate in the dressing room allows for these performances.

Yes, he’s not perfect. He has too much faith in his own batting, but he’s a very very promising leader.
 
SSA doesn’t have the same fitness levels as he had before his injury.He is getting there though.I am not sure if it was a good idea to make him captain of LQ.He needs to think about getting wickets and not be burdened with captaincy.Wiese would have been a better choice for a couple of seasons.
 
This seems to be in response to Shahid Afridi's comments:

"Shaheen has been suffering from fever for the last couple of days, and he also played yesterday's match with a fever,”

“If you have a fever, then I don't think you should play, but he [Shaheen] wanted to win the match and then rest until the final"
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One would imagine that his father in law would know the ins and outs of Shaheen's current health and fitness.
 
This is what he's been trying to do all tournament! And it only happens once he comes in at 7 lol
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shaheen Shah Afridi today:<br><br>1 1 6 . 1 6 4 6 1 6 4 2 . . 6 <br><br>44 off 15 balls<br>Strike rate of 293.33<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LQvMS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LQvMS</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1637123101132505091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2023</a></blockquote>
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I would happily play him at no. 8 or 9 after today’s dispatching of Ishan ullah who is probably the 2nd quickest (off the wicket) bowler in the world after Wood
 
Led from the front with the bat.

Good to see Wiese calming him down out there as he's getting hit around once again.
 
Awful form with the ball. And need to control his emotions. He should focus more om bowling than batting.
 
Too pumped up again.

Bowling poorly, abusing the opposition batters, kicking the pile of sawdust and then receiving a few words from the umpire.

Not good signs.
 
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Saj said:
Too pumped up again.

Bowling poorly, abusing the opposition batters, kicking the pile of sawdust and then receiving a few words from the umpire.

Not good signs.
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Yeah theres a fine line between being up for it and going over the top

More than once ive seen him run in too fast without thinking and taking a breather

He needs to calm down when hes bowling and control his aggression which unchecked becomes a liability like today
 
Pumped for 20 in an over

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Not in the best of form but he has shown up with the bat and ball when his team needed it the most! Captain fantastic

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Shaheen Shah Afridi becomes the first ever captain to win the Pakistan Super League twice
 
Shaheen has elite mentality, plenty of egg on the faces of some fickle fans

What a player :bow:
 
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Do you still think he's a trash bowler?
 
"My captain gave me a lot of confidence. He said to me it's the last over, don't worry if we lose. The Almighty gives us everything so say his name and bowl the last over" - Zaman Khan on Shaheen's captaincy
 
Impressive . Even though his moves might look odd but takes the risk and has big heart. Has lot of aggression .
 
We knew he had all the ingredients to be a top bowler but when after last year's WT20, it became apparent that he was ATG material after delivering a wonderful tournament with the ball despite not being 100% fit.

It's time for fans (including [MENTION=140816]reversehook[/MENTION]) to acknowledge that he's head and shoulders above everyone else as a cricketer in Pakistan.
 
I think if you win two tournaments back to back, any questions on your captaincy credentials should be removed.

Afridi should be Pakistan T20 captain.
 
topspin said:
We knew he had all the ingredients to be a top bowler but when after last year's WT20, it became apparent that he was ATG material after delivering a wonderful tournament with the ball despite not being 100% fit.

It's time for fans (including [MENTION=140816]reversehook[/MENTION]) to acknowledge that he's head and shoulders above everyone else as a cricketer in Pakistan.
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He’ll lead Pakistan one day. Hopefully he’s made test captain. There’s nobody else who’s got a better claim.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
He’ll lead Pakistan one day. Hopefully he’s made test captain. There’s nobody else who’s got a better claim.
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He's earned the opportunity and with experience he'll only get better as a captain.

In Tests, there are only 2 x candidates. It's either him or Babar because no one else is established as they are. However, Babar's captaincy in tests leave much to be desired.

In ODIs and T20Is there are more candidates and Shaheen will be ready to captain to Pakistan very soon. In white ball cricket the question is, is he ready now or do we wait after the 2023 ODI WC?
 
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PakEngFan said:
Anyone who thinks he’s trash should follow another sport.
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Agreed. Exactly what I said to this American based poster. He should stick to US sports if he really believes Shaheen is trash.
 
Pakistan fans should be elated that here's a man who has more wickets in international cricket than runs and is working hard to become a sort of an all rounder. His effort to improve as a batsman is a mighty impressive thing, i don't see any other bowler in the world doing that.
 
Two psl tournaments is a great resume. However he needs to work on keeping his emotions under check especially in vital games. He totally loses it when the batsmen go after him.
 
Not his best day today as skipper, but that over was huge where he took 3 wickets.

He will have learnt a lot from this tournament which is good for Pakistan cricket and him.

Work in progress as a skipper.
 
He is far too emotional to work as skipper for the national team. I've said many times he is fine for franchise cricket where its a jolly atmosphere and he's in his comfort zone most times.

Need some thinking blokes like Rizwan and Shadab for national skipper duty.
 
Should be the next Pakistan captain.

He's young and I'm sure will learn how to keep his emotions in check.

However a bit of aggression from your skipper is not a bad thing - makes a refreshing change from the meek losers who've recently captained Pakistan.
 
He and Rizwan can jointly captain the side , Rizwan an official captain while Shaheen an official one , Rizwan can take over when Shaheen loses himself in emotions , but the passion and fire he showed today despite not being 100% fit and not in his A game as well is worth watching.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
He and Rizwan can jointly captain the side , Rizwan an official captain while Shaheen an official one , Rizwan can take over when Shaheen loses himself in emotions , but the passion and fire he showed today despite not being 100% fit and not in his A game as well is worth watching.
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Yes great recipe for having two clueless pilots at the cockpit

Would rather have one.
 
Energy said:
He is far too emotional to work as skipper for the national team. I've said many times he is fine for franchise cricket where its a jolly atmosphere and he's in his comfort zone most times.

Need some thinking blokes like Rizwan and Shadab for national skipper duty.
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Yes you win two PSLs back to back by not being a thinking bloke.
 
He hasn’t been great with the ball up front this tournament, which is his strength yet he’s still managed to be impactful in nearly every game. Proves that he’s a real match winner.

I don’t agree with the sentiment that he’s our best cricketer because he’s still got a lot to prove in test cricket but he’s by far the best option to take the captaincy role.
 
I just hope he doesn't think he is our Ben Stokes now. Stick to bowling fast and taking wickets early on. His innings today was a bit of a slog fest but he may think he is a genuine all rounder now.
 
Have to give credit to SSA for leading from the front as a batsman and for getting the huge scalps of Tim David and Kieron Pollard. Superb turnaround following the mauling they got earlier in the week from the same opposition.

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Should be Pakistan’s automatic all format VC alongwith Shady.
 
PakHammer said:
I just hope he doesn't think he is our Ben Stokes now. Stick to bowling fast and taking wickets early on. His innings today was a bit of a slog fest but he may think he is a genuine all rounder now.
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Maybe, i wouldn't put it past him.

Hopefully he can look at Hasan Ali who went through a similar patch with the bat and decide he doesn't want to turn out like that.
 
sweep_shot said:
He was quite impressive.

He should be the captain of Pakistan team also.
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Definitely not. Too hot headed and his bowling was underpar for significant parts of the tournament. It's a good learning curve for him but he is not ready for captaincy. Shadab is ahead of him but the next man to replace Babar will definitely be Rizwan.
 
Highlights of his bowling performance

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Markhor said:
Yes you win two PSLs back to back by not being a thinking bloke.
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You think the PSL is a pinnacle of cricket? That'll be quite naive. The PSL is a yaari dosti tournament with all the jazz of qudrat ka nizam.
 
Energy said:
You think the PSL is a pinnacle of cricket? That'll be quite naive. The PSL is a yaari dosti tournament with all the jazz of qudrat ka nizam.
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Outside some personal admirations current players have for each other, I believe it was pretty competitive tournament thar turned into heat as well especially in the last half of the tournament.

It is as close of an experience to international whiteball any young Pakistani player and captain can get with international stars and coaches. One of the things that manifests it’s quality is that 70-90% of the new found performers from PSL have shown performances or skills at international level as well.

So I believe we have to give credit to Shaheen to lead a franchise to a 2nd consecutive title at 22 years of age in such a high profile whiteball tournament.
 
hitthestump said:
Definitely not. Too hot headed and his bowling was underpar for significant parts of the tournament. It's a good learning curve for him but he is not ready for captaincy. Shadab is ahead of him but the next man to replace Babar will definitely be Rizwan.
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I agree that Shaheen’s emotions in last two matches regarding his own bowling (He remains calms for his teammates) was somewhat of a worry. Weise had to calm him on few occasions. Then again he is just a young lad, should get better towards processing emotions as he matures further with time.
 
Need to get him out of Tests and have him focus on LOIs.

Should be given a go as T20I captain.

Can't see his body holding up playing all 3 formats.
 
Markhor said:
Should be the next Pakistan captain.

He's young and I'm sure will learn how to keep his emotions in check.

However a bit of aggression from your skipper is not a bad thing - makes a refreshing change from the meek losers who've recently captained Pakistan.
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I don’t think he needs to keep his emotions in check, for better or worse, they define the essence of a good aggressive fast bowler. They need to be an emotional breed at the highest level to achieve greatness
 
Shaheen’s bowling in the last two matches was not up to the mark.He couldn’t control his emotions.I think it is better to have a batsmen as a team captain.The bowlers should concentrate on taking wickets.A quality allrounder can be a captain but apart from Shadab we don’t have any good allrounder.
 
topspin said:
He's earned the opportunity and with experience he'll only get better as a captain.

In Tests, there are only 2 x candidates. It's either him or Babar because no one else is established as they are. However, Babar's captaincy in tests leave much to be desired.

In ODIs and T20Is there are more candidates and Shaheen will be ready to captain to Pakistan very soon. In white ball cricket the question is, is he ready now or do we wait after the 2023 ODI WC?
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Shaheen should NOT be white ball captain anytime soon, or in the next 5 years.

And that’s not a judgement on his captaincy abilities. He’s probably the best captain in Pakistan along with Rizzy. Shadab is slightly further back from these two.

He shouldn’t be captain because he’s a once in a generation player. With his bowling, his leadership, his improving batting and his competitive, intense attitude, he’s a ‘once in 3 decades’ type of player for Pakistan. Thereby, his workload management needs to mirror his importance to the team. We need to treat him in a similar-ish manner to how England treat Jimmy Anderson. Difference is that England didn’t realise til late what a gem they had. We’ve realised early and need to manage him as such.

Shaheen should basically not play any non-SENA bilateral t20s, and he needs to be used sparingly in the SENA bilateral t20s as well.

Thus, he can’t be white ball captain. He can be VC, and be part of the leadership group.

Ideally Shadab can be whiteball captain, if he can manage his injury issues.

Shaheen needs to be test captain though. Pakistan play few tests anyway, and you need an able leader in that format.
 
The only reason why I don't want him to be captain for the national side is becouse he's a fast bowler and he is more likely to get injured as he plays all three formats.
 
Aman said:
Need to get him out of Tests and have him focus on LOIs.

Should be given a go as T20I captain.

Can't see his body holding up playing all 3 formats.
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Then who is going to bowl in tests for us? Mohammad Ali redemption arc is quite unlikely unfortunately.

Pakistan need to do the opposite of what you've suggested. Our young bowling talent are all happy being 4 over specialists. For a country that produces a factory line of 150kmh bowlers we need to using them to bolster our test attack.
 
hitthestump said:
Then who is going to bowl in tests for us? Mohammad Ali redemption arc is quite unlikely unfortunately.

Pakistan need to do the opposite of what you've suggested. Our young bowling talent are all happy being 4 over specialists. For a country that produces a factory line of 150kmh bowlers we need to using them to bolster our test attack.
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Exactly Pakistan needs to prioritise him in tests Thats where hes gonna become a legend by picking up 350 test wkts

Use him sparingly in bilateral odis and t20s Play him in the world cup tourneys

If bowlers like him aint gonna play test pakistan need to stop playing it full stop
 
Fenrir said:
Shaheen’s bowling in the last two matches was not up to the mark.He couldn’t control his emotions.I think it is better to have a batsmen as a team captain.The bowlers should concentrate on taking wickets.A quality allrounder can be a captain but apart from Shadab we don’t have any good allrounder.
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Our last two Test captains are batsmen - how have their tenures worked out ?

Where has this myth that bowlers cannot be good captains come from - is this based on any empirical evidence ? Two of our best ever captains were bowlers.

Pat Cummins has done a decent job with Australia, India tour aside (not like he's the only skipper overseeing a beating in India). Ben Stokes is a pace bowling AR and has transformed England.

Although I'm not a big fan of franchise T20, winning two consecutively PSL titles is a significant achievement. It's easier tempering an aggressive captain's emotions over time than it is trying to make a defensive loser (Babar) into the next Mark Taylor.

I cannot agree with the workload and injury argument against Shaheen either. How many Tests do we even play a year ? Shaheen has only recently developed fitness issues because PCB botched his rehab. Prior to that his fitness record was stellar. And appointing Shadab (whose injury record is even worse) makes no sense. With careful management it can work out.
 
Shaheen has done a magnificent job with Lahore Qalandars winning Back to back Titles.

He would be deserving of the T20 skipper role if the opportunity arose. He has shown how he commands respect from his peers and how much they enjoy playing for him. A very important trait for a skipper to have which is something David wiese mentioned when shaheen was rested.
 
Markhor said:
Our last two Test captains are batsmen - how have their tenures worked out ?

Where has this myth that bowlers cannot be good captains come from - is this based on any empirical evidence ? Two of our best ever captains were bowlers.

Pat Cummins has done a decent job with Australia, India tour aside (not like he's the only skipper overseeing a beating in India). Ben Stokes is a pace bowling AR and has transformed England.

Although I'm not a big fan of franchise T20, winning two consecutively PSL titles is a significant achievement. It's easier tempering an aggressive captain's emotions over time than it is trying to make a defensive loser (Babar) into the next Mark Taylor.

I cannot agree with the workload and injury argument against Shaheen either. How many Tests do we even play a year ? Shaheen has only recently developed fitness issues because PCB botched his rehab. Prior to that his fitness record was stellar. And appointing Shadab (whose injury record is even worse) makes no sense. With careful management it can work out.
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agree with u, also shaheen carries himself like he believes he is world class, now that might be arrogance, but its a refreshing change from the last 15 years of cricketers who have looked like they were awe struck to be sharing the same field with certain cricketers.

shaheen has many shortcomings, but he is literally the antithesis of the weak and submissive nature of Pakistani players we have been crying about for ages.
 
ElRaja said:
agree with u, also shaheen carries himself like he believes he is world class, now that might be arrogance, but its a refreshing change from the last 15 years of cricketers who have looked like they were awe struck to be sharing the same field with certain cricketers.

shaheen has many shortcomings, but he is literally the antithesis of the weak and submissive nature of Pakistani players we have been crying about for ages.
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Shaheen is world class and is head and shoulders above any Pakistani pacer.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Simon Doull tells me "is Shaheen Shah Afridi a future Pakistan captain, absolutely, he could be. There is no issue with that" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/cZ44RqUbrQ">pic.twitter.com/cZ44RqUbrQ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1641489224963698688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Shaheen is an absolute box office. His presence is very much like Botham and Flintoff. The body language and morale of the whole team changes when he is on the field. Plus he has that ability to single handedly change the match situation (like Wasim used to do)

He needs to be dealt with extreme care.

Yes he is a little too emotional and a bit of a loose canon at times with his on field decisions. But he is just 22. That will change with age.

I'd really like for us to finally have 300+ test wickets pacer.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Shaheen is an absolute box office. His presence is very much like Botham and Flintoff. The body language and morale of the whole team changes when he is on the field. Plus he has that ability to single handedly change the match situation (like Wasim used to do)

He needs to be dealt with extreme care.

Yes he is a little too emotional and a bit of a loose canon at times with his on field decisions. But he is just 22. That will change with age.

I'd really like for us to finally have 300+ test wickets pacer.
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If he continues to play 3 formats pluss play domestically around the world you can pretty much say good bye to the 300+ test bowler.
 
shamaan said:
If he continues to play 3 formats pluss play domestically around the world you can pretty much say good bye to the 300+ test bowler.
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We don't play much international cricket tbh. 5-6 tests per year and 10-12 ODIs per year and 20 t20is per year.

With this sort of schedule I doubt any player can go to that high level in Tests and ODIs for Pakistan.

We desperately need to increase tests and ODIs and decrease t20is or use a seperate team for t20is with top players only getting to play them very little.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
We don't play much international cricket tbh. 5-6 tests per year and 10-12 ODIs per year and 20 t20is per year.

With this sort of schedule I doubt any player can go to that high level in Tests and ODIs for Pakistan.

We desperately need to increase tests and ODIs and decrease t20is or use a seperate team for t20is with top players only getting to play them very little.
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Yes definitely need to increase tests that should be PCB number 1 priority.
 
Its funny. In T20I's, he chooses Rizwan (an anchor) and Ayub to open. And he puts Fakhar at 4 and Farhan at 5.
But for LQ, he opens with Fakahr and Farhan and puts the anchor (abdullah) at 4.
 
shamaan said:
Yes definitely need to increase tests that should be PCB number 1 priority.
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The players are just not interested in playing Tests. Too fragile.
I have never seen or heard any new generation Pakistani players having aspirations to play and perform in Tests. For them it's always the shorter formats and obsession of World Cups.
 
Shaheen Afridi's post match interview after the loss against Islamabad United:

"I think we can give credit to Shadab and Salman the way they played. Not easy for fast bowlers to bowl in second innings when there is a lot of due and ball is coming nice onto the bat."

(On absence of Rashid Khan)I think we miss Rashid [Khan] because he is an impact bowler and used to take wickets in the middle overs. Guess we can't do anything on that because he is injured and unavailable."
 
Good 4 overs by him. Happy with his performance in the first game. We really need him to be at the top of his game, he is the spearhead of the Pakistan bowling line-up
 
Going terrible this season, he is trying to be a bit animated this time with no logical decisions. I think LQ wil joing KK at the bottom of the table.
 
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