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What a disgusting way to treat a youngster
Muhammad Amir is replacing Haris Rauf so why is Rohail going back?
Misbah "Rohail has been with us, we tried to keep him with us as long as possible to keep a 29-man squad and also so that he can gain experience. Initially we brought him as a backup WK but we have Rizwan and Sarfaraz now. He has gained some experience. He will leave when Amir joins the squad."
Misbah "Rohail has been with us, we tried to keep him with us as long as possible to keep a 29-man squad and also so that he can gain experience. Initially we brought him as a backup WK but we have Rizwan and Sarfaraz now. He has gained some experience. He will leave when Amir joins the squad."
Rohail Nazir is to be sent back to Pakistan when Mohammad Amir arrives in England.
According to Misbah he has gained a lot of experience during his time in England.
Thoughts?
I’d sooner send home:
Imran Khan
Sohail Khan
Musa Khan
Mohammad Hafeez
Kashif Bhatti
Iftikhar Ahmed
But five of them are in Misbah’s little social clique!
Should never have been selected in the first place. You only need two Wicket keepers on a tour. If it’s about exposure, then I suppose we need A team tours. There’s no point in warming benches in the name of exposure.
He was only taken because Rizwan tested positive for COVID-19, ensuring there were 2 keepers if he didn't recover. He's now being sent back as he is now surplus to needs.
Thoughts? Not the first time that Amir has cost someone in the Pakistani set up.....
Thoughts? Not the first time that Amir has cost someone in the Pakistani set up.....
Even yesterday, with Abid Ali injured wouldn't it have made more sense to let Rohail Nazir open rather than Mohammad Hafeez - who lasted 3 balls?
Even yesterday, with Abid Ali injured wouldn't it have made more sense to let Rohail Nazir open rather than Mohammad Hafeez - who lasted 3 balls?
I hope he takes it positively. To be frank, he wasn’t ready for an international call up.
If he takes this as a sign to work harder so as to make himself undroppable, and focuses on his batting by looking for an excellent season in first class, he will end up better for it.
If he had stayed with the squad, I could see him getting forever dropped after an unsuccessful practice test or two. Ideally should have stayed, but should look at glass half full.
Thanks again Rohail!
Sorry it was tough to find a place against a top tier team for you.
Pakistan team management desperate for Rizwan to score some runs and keep Sarfaraz out. Rohail is just a casualty of this war.
Rohail is not a good keeper and an inferior batsman to Rizwan.
Infact so is Sarfaraz, so you know...
Sarfaraz>>>>>Rizwan as a batsman in limited overs cricket
Rizwan>>>>>>Sarfaraz as a keeper in all formats
This is a harsh reality Rizwan fans need to accept.
Sarfaraz>>>>>Rizwan as a batsman in limited overs cricket
Rizwan>>>>>>Sarfaraz as a keeper in all formats
This is a harsh reality Rizwan fans need to accept.
Rizwan
Forget about international ODI since Rizwan has the same amount centuries as Sarafaraz against a far superior team in his much shorter career so it wouldn't be fair
List A:
Average 48.47
Runs: 4363
11 100s
21 50s
Domestic T20:
Average: 30.17
Runs: 1901
0 100
10 50
Sarfaraz
List A
Average : 32.52 LOOL
Runs: 3805
3 100s
19 50s
Domestic T20
Average: 27.02
Runs:3081
0 100
11 50
Now what makes this even more funnier is Sarfaraz has played 62 more List A matches than Rizwan and 94 more domestic T20 matches. Rizwan is going to overtake him by the end of his career by a very healthy margin. If Rizwan gets the same lengthy opportunity Sarfaraz has gotten he will leave him in his dust.
Rizwan
Forget about international ODI since Rizwan has the same amount centuries as Sarafaraz against a far superior team in his much shorter career so it wouldn't be fair
List A:
Average 48.47
Runs: 4363
11 100s
21 50s
Domestic T20:
Average: 30.17
Runs: 1901
0 100
10 50
Sarfaraz
List A
Average : 32.52 LOOL
Runs: 3805
3 100s
19 50s
Domestic T20
Average: 27.02
Runs:3081
0 100
11 50
Now what makes this even more funnier is Sarfaraz has played 62 more List A matches than Rizwan and 94 more domestic T20 matches. Rizwan is going to overtake him by the end of his career by a very healthy margin. If Rizwan gets the same lengthy opportunity Sarfaraz has gotten he will leave him in his dust.
Stats are great but performance on the field at the highest level is what really matters. Rizwan is probably 1-2 poor innings away from being dropped and another guy will have a chance to play as a keeper batsman in ODIs. Then all Rizwan will have left is that healthy average of 48 in List A cricket.
What it may also do is tell people that maybe we should not read too much into stats especially when they are from Pakistan cricket if he is dropped after a few more failures.
We have all been witness to Rizwan the limited overs cricketer against Zimbabwe. He didn’t fail after facing 4-5 balls, in fact he was at the crease for a decent amount of time in all 3 innings.
Sarfaraz literally averages 24 against Zimbabwe in 16 games and had only managed 148 runs lool.
Man such fans don't even need stats, their biases and instincts or personal likes dislikes are far more important.
You are absolutely correct with what you said about valuable runs but your unreasonable dislike stems from the fact that you are a Sarfaraz fan hence you keep calling Rizwan a wasteman.Do you see me arguing for Sarfaraz to be included instead though??
I’m just telling you that the reason why Pakistan are not playing Rohail in these T20is is because they are desperate for Rizwan to score the runs to keep any thought of Sarfaraz’s return.
Sarfaraz is naturally a better limited overs choice as compared to Rizwan with the bat, but yes he isn’t the solution. The keeper spot right now in Pakistan’s limited overs team is a major hole that needs to be filled by a player who will keep and score valuable runs for his side.
Do you see me arguing for Sarfaraz to be included instead though??
I’m just telling you that the reason why Pakistan are not playing Rohail in these T20is is because they are desperate for Rizwan to score the runs to keep any thought of Sarfaraz’s return.
Sarfaraz is naturally a better limited overs choice as compared to Rizwan with the bat, but yes he isn’t the solution. The keeper spot right now in Pakistan’s limited overs team is a major hole that needs to be filled by a player who will keep and score valuable runs for his side.
You are absolutely correct with what you said about valuable runs but your unreasonable dislike stems from the fact that you are a Sarfaraz fan hence you keep calling Rizwan a wasteman.
Rizwan is one of the best keepers in the world and I'm content
I mean if he had played today, would Pakistan have lost?
Was Rizwan absolutely crucial to the team today?
Rohail is not a limited overs player and Rizwan is young / fit and at the top of his game. Rohail should have been released from the squad and allowed to play first class cricket.
He doesn’t have the natural talent of some other youngsters but he’s been incredibly well managed by the PCB so far and could go on to become a good Test Match keeper for us in the future.
I can see this thread being bumped again for many months or years to come.
He is a nothing batsman especially in white ball cricket. Why on earth are people crying about him not getting a chance to play?
Some people are so obsessed with young players they would advocate for them with no logic and sense.
Because if he wasn't to be played, he shouldn't have been selected. That way he could have played the the three QeA trophy games that have finished during that time.
I dont rate him either. Has a lot of hype for not much substance.He is a nothing batsman especially in white ball cricket. Why on earth are people crying about him not getting a chance to play?
Some people are so obsessed with young players they would advocate for them with no logic and sense.
He is a nothing batsman especially in white ball cricket. Why on earth are people crying about him not getting a chance to play?
Some people are so obsessed with young players they would advocate for them with no logic and sense.
He is a nothing batsman especially in white ball cricket. Why on earth are people crying about him not getting a chance to play?
Some people are so obsessed with young players they would advocate for them with no logic and sense.
Rohail is not a limited overs player and Rizwan is young / fit and at the top of his game. Rohail should have been released from the squad and allowed to play first class cricket.
He doesn’t have the natural talent of some other youngsters but he’s been incredibly well managed by the PCB so far and could go on to become a good Test Match keeper for us in the future.
Top of his game?
He has scored 30 runs in 3 innings against Zimbabwe at home with a sr below 50.
Yes and before that he was exceptional in England. His keeping is absolutely amazing right now. And while he is not a T20 batter, he shouldn’t be replaced by someone like Rohail who is a step down in keeping and not as good a batsman (at this stage).
In my personal opinion, the PCB should be working extensively with Azam Khan. He should have been taken to New Zealand even with his current fitness.
Rohail is a far better T20 batsman, Rizwan struggles to hit a 100 strike rate in the middle order.
He is an inferior keeper but that should have stopped you from talking about Azam Khan. The truth is, inferior keeping is overshadowed by the batting depth you provide and Rohail provides that (short-term) until either Zeeshan Ashraf or Azam Khan are selected for the wicket-keeper position.
Rizwan is poor in T20 so he is not the benchmark for Rohail to aim towards. He shouldn’t be slightly better than Rizwan, he needs to justify his place as a T20s batsman/ keeper. That being said, there isn’t much evidence to suggest that Rohail would be better than Rizwan at T20i batting. He doesn’t seem like a dynamic batsman and definitely is not suited to the number 5/6 position.
Azam is a completely different batsman to Rizwan and so his poorer keeping or fitness can be overlooked for the team requirement.
I agree Azam is the best option from the three assuming he can keep at a decent level but Azam has not kept in 2 years due to Sarfaraz. So firstly he needs to get that opportunity, otherwise a lot of this discussion is hypothetical and wish-fulfillment (even though I personally think it can be the solution).
In the meanwhile, we have to make do with the remaining options and Rohail and Zeeshan are the only two keepers who have made any kind of mark in T20 cricket. Just today Rohail hit 3 fours and a six coming in at number 9 in the practice match.
He’s also historically played ramp shots, reverse sweeps, played as opener, played at 7, performed for Northern, performed for Multan, and hit folks like Shaheen for boundaries which we need from a keeper who is likely coming in at the death against pace, whereas Rizwan struggles here until he is set.
Playing all these reverse sweeps and ramp shots is useful but it just backs up the point that he’s not a natural striker.
If the choice is between then, then I would rather continue with Rizwan who at least has international exposure, has batted well in Test Match cricket against the fastest bowlers in the world etc. Plus Rohail potentially has a long career ahead of him in the longer formats. It would do far more damage to him to throw him into the limelight in a format he clearly isn’t comfortable in.
So someone who plays the sweep and reserve sweep shows that hes not a natural striker ?
I think zeeshan Ashraf should be given ago hes an ok keeper but his batting is way better than rizwan and rohail as he showed in national cup and psl a few times
The excuses people make to keep Rizwan in the limited overs side are hilarious. And then we cry about how we don’t have the right type of players in this format
The one thing I would like Rohail to add to his batting is versatility. Reverse sweeps, scoop shots and ramp shots would be great.