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[VIDEOS] The Late Shane Warne - The Greatest Leg-Spinner the world has seen?

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Warne was one of cricket's most lethal bowlers, with 708 Test wickets to his name -- the most ever for an Australian, and the second-most of all time behind only Muttiah Muralitharan of Sri Lanka.

He was named the Wisden Leading Cricketer in the World on three separate occasions, and one of Wisden's five cricketers of the 20th century. As a legacy, Warne's is unrivaled -- the sport's greatest ever leg-spinner.

Perhaps his greatest moment came in the 1993 Ashes series against England when he delivered 'the ball of the century' to completely bamboozle Mike Gatting. The video of the delivery has been shared extensively on social media as news of his death spread.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The ball that changed the art of leg-spin forever <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShaneWarne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ShaneWarne</a> <a href="https://t.co/nDqcQWfH1C">pic.twitter.com/nDqcQWfH1C</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1499792930680233990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote>
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For some of our younger posters on here who never watched him live it's truly difficult to summarise how absolutely incredible Warne was.

Leg spin/wrist spin is the de-facto most difficult bowling style to master, because of the oddness of the basic action. You can have the best legspinners ever around however they'll either
a) Never have enough control or consistency despite spinning it well.
b) Not spin it enough to be super dangerous
c) Not Be quick enough to not allow batsmen time

Warne was unique in that he had great control with consistent lengths, he bowled at a good pace, he had all the variations, he actually spun it around corners and he was a mental giant. An incredible cricketer that I was lucky enough to watch. Rest in peace Warney.
 
I hated watching him when he played against Pakistan as I knew he would cause all sorts of problems and take wickets.

But when he wasn't ripping up the Pakistan batting order, it was incredible just watching how skilful he was.

Brilliant cricketer!
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The ball that changed the art of leg-spin forever <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShaneWarne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ShaneWarne</a> <a href="https://t.co/nDqcQWfH1C">pic.twitter.com/nDqcQWfH1C</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1499792930680233990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote>
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I remember watching this live as a child. After this ball, I decided to try to bowl leg spin, wides after wides ! I was in awe of Warnes skills and his charisma on the field. I watched him carefully, how confident of the player he was. I then took this on board in my school team, Warne always believed he would win any battle against any batsmen and more than often he did.

Warne would in the mental game against most, teams just collapsed once he got going. Having the likes of McGrath at the other end helped him a lot too but he was the star always.
 
Don't think the world will ever see such a leg spinner again.

Sadly he lost out on the opportunity to captain Australia due to his off field antics. The Rajastan Royal players in 2008, all of them were mesmerized and shocked as to how he never captained Australia. For the Australians this is a loss far greater than Bradman.
 
How can their be a doubt he was indeed the best leg spinner ever and probably always will be even the best cricketer as well
 
Certainly the greatest leg-spin bowler of all time, imo the best spin bowler ever & has a legitimate claim to being the best bowler and even cricketer of all time as well. An absolutely unique talent.
 
He was a great entertainer too. The full box office package
 
Privileged to go to watch the 05 ashes series and he was basically a genius.

Ali, warne , Maradonna.
 
Theres not many players that transcend their sport and play it with so much skill and panache

Warne was the maradona of cricket A flawed genius
 
one of my favourite cricketers, not just his technical skill but his competitive attitude, his mental games, his useful batting and world class slip fielding, was the total package, and there wont be another anytime soon. very good analyst of the game too, the greatest captain Australia never had, he will be sorely missed.
 
The Gatting Ball to his 700th wicket: Shane Warne’s best moments

During a career that spanned 15 years and resulted in 708 Test wickets, Shane Warne compiled a list of highlights the envy of all bowlers.

How do you go about selecting what was his greatest moment of all time on the field?

We’ve chosen five of his greatest performances below.

1. The Gatting Ball
Warne entered the 1993 Ashes series in England with little fanfare. That changed in the blink of an eye after one of the most jaw-dropping deliveries seen in Test cricket. With his first ball in Tests on English soil, Warne bowled Mike Gatting. The ball came out of the hand perfectly, drifted to the leg spin, drew Gatting into the shot, before spitting like a cobra, fizzing past the outside edge and clipping the off bail. As far as perfect deliveries go, there have been - and will be - few better.


2. 1999 World Cup
Most remember Australia’s 1999 World semi-final victory for the dramatic late run-out of South Africa’s Allan Donald that sealed a tie but it was Warne who helped set up the result with three top order wickets in quick succession to turn the game on its head. Warne finished with 4-29.


3. 700th wicket
December 26, 2006. Where were you? If you were at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, you would have witnessed Warne clean bowl England captain Andrew Strauss to bring up his 700th Test wicket. What a moment.


4. Hat-trick at the MCG in 1994-95
MCG. Warne. A great David Boon catch at short leg. This was a seriously good moment.


5. Final day heroics of the Adelaide Test in 2006-07
With England one wicket down in their second innings at the beginning of day five in the second Ashes Test of 2006, you could count on one hand how many people thought Australia could forge a result. Warne was one. The rest is history.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...ane-warne-s-best-moments-20220305-p5a207.html
 
For me, he was simply the best there has ever been PERIOD.
 
Shane Warne - A GOAT bowler

Maybe Shane Warne was not the best bowler of all time, but he was good enough to be part of any GOAT team. And any cricketer who would be part of the GOAT team is a GOAT cricketer in my opinion.

Discuss Shane Warne's legacy, arguably the greatest spinner of all time, and your favourite memories about him.

RIP Warne, cricket might not see a leg spinner of his stature ever again
 
Bowling Shayyyne :(

RIP Legend, lived life to the fullest and dated Elizabeth Hurley what a superstar. My favorite player of all time. Will always remember him for turning the 1999 Semis against South Africa and the final against Pakistan. Legend 🏌️
 
Absolute legend. When he was on the field there was always the sense of theatre, you just knew he would make things happen.
Other than his obvious skills and records, i always enjoyed his idiosyncracies or left field out of the box thinking or actions at times, like the time he was called on field to calm the MCG crowd who were throwing rubbish on the field, he picks up a helmet (i think it was alec steward's helment) and goes to the boundary, and crowd love it, or the time when he was fielding in a an odi on the fence- in a tense run chase and a guy in the crowd threw him a half drunk beer bottle and he obliges by having a swig and throwing it back to the guy! There was the interview in which he said if he was made captain -he'd do away with third man and fine leg and bowl stump to stump.
RIP Shane - thanks for the memories:salute
 
I definitely believe he is the greatest leg-spinner of all time. It was not just his skills but also what he has accomplished.
 
I still cannot believe this. As with Dean Jones' passing, it's come totally out of the blue. I don't have the words to do justice to Shane Warne's legacy and impact on cricket.

He was a spinner who had an attitude of a 90mph fast bowler. He was not just a cricketer but a showman. He was cricket's Diego Maradona or Mohammad Ali, a flawed genius who you couldn't keep from the spotlight.

Simply quoting his stats doesn't capture this larger than life personality who inspired millions with his short run-up, physics-defying legbreaks, the blonde locks and zinc, and mind games.

That dominant Australian team had so many fabulous individuals - but Shane Warne was its beating heart and tactical brain. His will to win was unmatched - he single-handedly got Australia back into the 1999 Semi Final vs South Africa when they seemed down and out.

When his teammates crumbled in the 2005 Ashes, there was one guy who simply refused to give up.

One of my fondest childhood memories is Richie Benaud on commentary, Shane Warne bowling. Two masters of the legspin craft. Now they're both gone. Just sucks :(
 
As former Australia captain Ricky Ponting struggles to comprehend the unexpected death of close friend and cricketing great Shane Warne, he has vowed to ensure the champion leg spinner’s legacy lives on.

The cricket world was left stunned when Warne died of a heart attack at the age of 52 in Thailand on Saturday, and speaking on the latest edition of The ICC Review an emotional Ponting described how the tragedy has rocked him and revealed what he wishes he could have said to Warne before he passed away.

Ponting bristled with pride reflecting on their playing days together for Australia and shared his appreciation for Warne’s on-field advice and friendship post-retirement.

And Ponting wants to make sure Warne's positive attitude, cricket acumen and willingness to mentor the younger generation is not lost to the game.

"He was a teacher through his commentary and I’ve seen hundreds of photos over the last 24 hours of all the spinners he worked with,” Ponting told Isa Guha, on The ICC Review.

“He helped Steve Smith in his younger days and Rashid Khan has been catching up with him - just imagine the conversations they would have had.

"So I feel it is now up to me whenever I get an opportunity to just let the world know what he was like and pass on some of the things I learnt from him."

The news of Warne's untimely death came less than 24 hours after the passing of another Australian cricketing great, with former wicketkeeper Rod Marsh also dying of a heart attack last week.

"I woke up nice and early I was getting the kids ready to go to netball and Rianna (Ponting’s wife) looked at her phone and told me the news about Warney," he said.

"I grabbed the phone out of her hand to look at it and I couldn’t believe it and it is still the same now.

"It was so raw to me I couldn’t really speak and every time I thought about him and our experiences and our journey together and I just got short for words.

"Even today I have had the TV on watching the tributes, but every time I hear his voice I have to turn it off.

"It's been a tough couple of days, but it makes us a bit more aware of things I probably need to pay more attention to and there is stuff there for all of us to learn.”

Ponting knew Warne better than most having played alongside the iconic figure for much of his 15-year international career, where the duo shared numerous Test victories, memorable series triumphs and a successful World Cup campaign in 1999.

But while Ponting lived in the same Melbourne bayside suburb as Warne and even caught up for the occasional game of golf all the way up to his passing, the former Australia skipper said there was one thing he will now never get to share with his long-time friend.

"I would say just how much I love him," Ponting said tearily, when asked what he would say to Warne if he had the chance for one final conversation

"I didn't say that to him and I wish I did."

Ponting also reflected on the special memories he had with his close mate and admitted he was in awe of some of the leg spinner’s friends, while also paying homage to the type of man he was.

"If you spent a day with him (it was amazing to) see some of the names flashing up on his mobile phone," Ponting said.

"It was very rare for Warney just to be sitting at home. He would always try and find time for his friends and his family and that was one of his great strengths.

"The more people talking about Shane, the thing that will shine through will be just how loyal he was to family and friends and how loved he was.

"He had the energy that drew you to him and that is a trait that not a lot of people have."

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2519659
 
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For me he was always the greatest spinner, not just the greatest leg-spinner. He could create magic regardless of the conditions. And his larger than life personality just added to it all. He made leg-spin bowling look so cool. And likely inspired generations who grew up watching him and will grow up watching him on YouTube. But man, I feel bad for them. Because in those videos they won't get to see the traps he used to lay...oftentimes overs before taking those wickets.

Still can't believe he is gone. Its been a long time since a death of a former cricketer hit me this hard.

RIP Shane. There will never be another cricketer like you.
 
Sunil Gavaskar says Shane Warne wasn't greatest, Indian spinners and Muralitharan 'certainly better'

India batting great Sunil Gavaskar has spoken at his shock at the death of Shane Warne but does not think the Australian tweaker was the greatest spinner of all time.

Speaking on a show on the India Today television channel, Gavaskar said Warne's death at the age of 52 on Friday due to a suspected heart attack in Koh Samui, Thailand had left him speechless.

Warne's death followed that of fellow Australian great, wicketkeeper Rod Marsh, at the age of 74.

"Within the space of 24 hours the cricket world has lost two giants of the game, not just Australian cricket but the cricket world. Rodney Marsh and then Shane Warne. This is unbelievable. Hard to come to grips with," Gavaskar said.

"Warne mastered a craft which is so difficult... wrist spin. To pick 700-plus wickets like he did in test cricket, hundreds more in one-day cricket tells you how good a bowler he was.

"Finger spin is a lot easier, you have more control over what you want to bowl but leg-spin or wrist spin is tough. For him to have bowled the way he did, the way he seemed to create magic... at will was the reason he was revered all over the cricketing world."

Gavaskar said he did not consider Warne, who took 708 test wickets to sit behind Sri Lanka's Muttiah Muralitharan (800) in the overall list, as the greatest spinner of all time.

"For me, the Indian spinners and Muralitharan were certainly better than Warne. Because look at Warne's record against India. It was pretty ordinary against India," Gavaskar said.

"Because he didn't have much success against Indian players, who are very good players of spin bowling, I don't think I would call him the greatest. Muralitharan with the success that he had against India would rank over him in my book."

The timing of Gavaskar's comments upset some of Warne's legion of Indian fans, particularly his suggestion that the Australian's lifestyle had contributed to his early death.

"He was always looking to live life fully, king-size as they call it and he did that and maybe because he lived life in such a manner is perhaps the reason why his heart couldn't take it and he passed away so soon," Gavaskar said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1678760/s...an-spinners-and-muralitharan-certainly-better
 
Hillarious response as usual by Gavaskar. Is he not aware of Murali's record in India?
 
I disagree with Gavaskar completely, but that is not to be expanded upon now. All of the spin bowlers he is speaking about have retired, so there is no rush to have this discussion. It is a debate that can be held (respectfully) in a few months or years.

The main issue is that these are extremely poorly timed remarks from Gavaskar and are disrespectful comments towards Shane Warne & his family in the context of this being a period of the deepest grief for them. Just totally tone deaf.
 
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I disagree with Gavaskar completely, but that is not to be expanded upon now. All of the spin bowlers he is speaking about have retired, so there is no rush to have this discussion. It is a debate that can be held (respectfully) in a few months or years.

The main issue is that these are extremely poorly timed remarks from Gavaskar and are disrespectful comments towards Shane Warne & his family in the context of this being a period of the deepest grief for them. Just totally tone deaf.
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Unnecessary and insensitive comments from Gavaskar. I don't understand the need to bring India into every conversation. Reeks of insecurity.
 
docteurmanish said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhash_Gupte

Think people forget this guy .
Sobers rated him over warne .

Gavaskar is right . Indians didnÂ’t rate warne much . Murali Was slightly better . Indians rated saqlain higher than Shane and Murali and in my opinion , peak saqlain was most feared by Indians.
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Well honestly - Saqlain, Zampa and Lyon have troubled us more than Warne. Warne was regarded as a score bowler amongst Indian batsmen. As impressive as he looked elsewhere, looked very dull and toothless against India.
 
He was the greatest spinner of all, but I actually used to prefer to watch Stuart McGill bowl!

I used to be a (terrible) leg-spinner, but I couldn't get close to my school team because Michael Atherton was a much better leg-spinner than me (and a run machine too!).

There are basically two main types of leg-spinner.

Ones like Mushtaq Ahmed, Stuart MacGill and Abdul Qadir have a high arm action, allowing them to moved a googly back in to the right-hander, but they struggle to bowl a flat, fast, straight flipper.

Ones like Shane Warne - and Yasir Shah at his peak - have a much lower arm action, allowing them to have a stock ball which spins much further away from the right-handed batsman.

Warne was unique for his accuracy. It made him almost impossible to score quickly against, and with Glenn McGrath in the same attack opposing teams could not score quickly enough to make big totals.

Warne's leg-break was beautiful and accurate too. I've never seen another leggie who could drift it into the batsman before spinning it away like he could.

His flipper was awe-inspiring - that delivery to Alec Stewart in 1994-95 frankly was better than the Gatting ball eighteen months earlier.

He couldn't really bowl a googly to save his life - that's why I enjoyed watching MacGill more, because he really could turn it in every direction. But MacGill was still an inferior bowler because he couldn't control his accuracy like Warne could.

The arguments about India are frankly nonsense. Yes, they handled him better than other teams - but there are two other factors in this.

Firstly, they didn't play him in Australia at his peak. They played him as a rookie, then they next played him when he was returning from shoulder surgery, then he was banned for the next series.

Secondly, they were sufficiently afraid of him that in general in India they avoided their usual spinning tracks to try to neutralise him.

Besides, India was not the benchmark for quality in that era. India were inferior to the West Indies until 2000, inferior to Pakistan until around 2003 and inferior to South Africa throughout Warne's career.

Saying that Warne is not the GOAT because of his performances against India is like criticising Sachin Tendulkar because he only averaged 40.00 in 7 Test innings in Zimbabwe.
 
Junaids said:
The arguments about India are frankly nonsense. Yes, they handled him better than other teams - but there are two other factors in this.

Firstly, they didn't play him in Australia at his peak. They played him as a rookie, then they next played him when he was returning from shoulder surgery, then he was banned for the next series.

Secondly, they were sufficiently afraid of him that in general in India they avoided their usual spinning tracks to try to neutralise him.
And on the same track our spinners would make merry to the extent Australians would call our pitches as "dark side of the moon"

Besides, India was not the benchmark for quality in that era. India were inferior to the West Indies until 2000, inferior to Pakistan until around 2003 and inferior to South Africa throughout Warne's career.
Lol - In that era, Indian batsmen and bowlers (to some extent) were considered gold standard in spin bowling

Saying that Warne is not the GOAT because of his performances against India is like criticising Sachin Tendulkar because he only averaged 40.00 in 7 Test innings in Zimbabwe.
Comparing Zimbabwe with Indian spin batting - stop it man. With this argument you are trying to ridicule Indian batting using Tendulkar who was part of the same Indian batting line up! Logic Mr. Profet?
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Trying to sound like a profet and then comparing India to Zimbabwe when the topic is spin bowling and batting.
 
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Trying to sound like a profet and then comparing India to Zimbabwe when the topic is spin bowling and batting.
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India’s spin bowling was actually garbage for the first half of Warne’s Test career.

Rajesh Chauhan was a chucker.

Venkapathy Raju was the same quality as Zafar Gohar.

Anil Kumble at the time was in no way an upgrade on Shadab Khan.

Ravi Shastri was similar in quality to Mohammad Nawaz.

When India played Zimbabwe in their inaugural Test in 1992-93 the only international class spinner in display was actually John Traicos. And he was 45 years old - but he still massively superior to Raju, Shastri and the early version of Anil Kumble.
 
None has put more revs on a cricket ball with accuracy and straighter arm as Warne. He was definitely the best leg spinner in the last 50 years. I don't know why some gremlins from the neighborhood get so uptight honoring a true legend of cricket.

You can pull all the stats in the world of other spinners, the consistency and fitness is unmatchable to Warne!
 
CricVet said:
None has put more revs on a cricket ball with accuracy and straighter arm as Warne. He was definitely the best leg spinner in the last 50 years. I don't know why some gremlins from the neighborhood get so uptight honoring a true legend of cricket.

You can pull all the stats in the world of other spinners, the consistency and fitness is unmatchable to Warne!
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Not just 50 years.

He was vastly superior to Benaud, but also more accurate and with better variation than Grimmett and O’Reilly.
 
Junaids said:
India’s spin bowling was actually garbage for the first half of Warne’s Test career.

Rajesh Chauhan was a chucker.

Venkapathy Raju was the same quality as Zafar Gohar.

Anil Kumble at the time was in no way an upgrade on Shadab Khan.

Ravi Shastri was similar in quality to Mohammad Nawaz.

When India played Zimbabwe in their inaugural Test in 1992-93 the only international class spinner in display was actually John Traicos. And he was 45 years old - but he still massively superior to Raju, Shastri and the early version of Anil Kumble.
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Why would you attribute Warnes poor bowling performance in India to India's bowlers?

You mentioned it doesnt matter he failed in India. India was mediocre comparable to Zimbabwe. The fact is India was one of the best players of spin in that era. Your logic has no coherence.
 
Wow did you guys read what Gavaskar just said? What a complete tool and a disgusting human being. Why is this guy even commentating?
 
Junaids said:
He was the greatest spinner of all, but I actually used to prefer to watch Stuart McGill bowl!

I used to be a (terrible) leg-spinner, but I couldn't get close to my school team because Michael Atherton was a much better leg-spinner than me (and a run machine too!).

There are basically two main types of leg-spinner.

Ones like Mushtaq Ahmed, Stuart MacGill and Abdul Qadir have a high arm action, allowing them to moved a googly back in to the right-hander, but they struggle to bowl a flat, fast, straight flipper.

Ones like Shane Warne - and Yasir Shah at his peak - have a much lower arm action, allowing them to have a stock ball which spins much further away from the right-handed batsman.

Warne was unique for his accuracy. It made him almost impossible to score quickly against, and with Glenn McGrath in the same attack opposing teams could not score quickly enough to make big totals.

Warne's leg-break was beautiful and accurate too. I've never seen another leggie who could drift it into the batsman before spinning it away like he could.

His flipper was awe-inspiring - that delivery to Alec Stewart in 1994-95 frankly was better than the Gatting ball eighteen months earlier.

He couldn't really bowl a googly to save his life - that's why I enjoyed watching MacGill more, because he really could turn it in every direction. But MacGill was still an inferior bowler because he couldn't control his accuracy like Warne could.

The arguments about India are frankly nonsense. Yes, they handled him better than other teams - but there are two other factors in this.

Firstly, they didn't play him in Australia at his peak. They played him as a rookie, then they next played him when he was returning from shoulder surgery, then he was banned for the next series.

Secondly, they were sufficiently afraid of him that in general in India they avoided their usual spinning tracks to try to neutralise him.

Besides, India was not the benchmark for quality in that era. India were inferior to the West Indies until 2000, inferior to Pakistan until around 2003 and inferior to South Africa throughout Warne's career.

Saying that Warne is not the GOAT because of his performances against India is like criticising Sachin Tendulkar because he only averaged 40.00 in 7 Test innings in Zimbabwe.
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On the topic of recently departed spinners - RIP also to the West Indian legend Sonny Ramadhin who was an adopted Lancastrian like yourself.

I read he lived in Saddleworth Moor for decades after retirement.

He was one half of the "two little pals of mine" that famously beat England away for the first time at Lord's in 1950, and the first "Indian" West Indian Test cricketer.

He died at the ripe old age of 92.
 
I dont think theres any debate that hes the greatest leggie ever

Qadir Benaud Grimmet Shah Mcgill all comfortably in another lower league

The only debate is if hes the greatest spinner Hes certainly in the top 3 you could argue

For me hes the greatest spinner ever full stop
 
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Markhor said:
On the topic of recently departed spinners - RIP also to the West Indian legend Sonny Ramadhin who was an adopted Lancastrian like yourself.

I read he lived in Saddleworth Moor for decades after retirement.

He was one half of the "two little pals of mine" that famously beat England away for the first time at Lord's in 1950, and the first "Indian" West Indian Test cricketer.

He died at the ripe old age of 92.
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I remember Ramadhin’s son-in-law Willie Hogg opening the bowling for Lancashire in the late seventies.

And around a decade ago his grandson - Willie Hogg’s son Kyle - also opened the bowling for Lancashire.
 
Zaz said:
I dont think theres any debate that hes the greatest leggie ever

Qadir Benaud Grimmet Shah Mcgill all comfortably in another lower league

The only debate is if hes the greatest spinner Hes certainly in the top 3 you could argue

For me hes the greatest spinner ever full stop
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In my personal opinion he is the best spin bowler of all time (surely should be in anyone’s top 2 as a minimum), and possibly the greatest bowler of them all as well.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On this day in 1993, the world witnessed Shane Warne's 'Ball of the Century' &#55357;&#56613; <a href="https://t.co/E47RM3BpwA">pic.twitter.com/E47RM3BpwA</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1532904997242949632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
His birthday today.

Will there ever be another spinner to match his skills?
 
"has seen" is a pretty derogatory phrase for the legend. "will ever see" would have been better.
 
IMO there have been lefties as good as Warne but you’d have to go back a century to Grimmett and O’Reilly.
 
‘You can hear his voice’: Ricky Ponting’s heartbreaking tribute to Shane Warne

Ricky Ponting has voiced a heartbreaking tribute to his great friend and teammate the late Shane Warne ahead of his elevation to Legend status in the Sport Australia Hall of Fame.

Channel 7 reported Ponting shared his memories of Warne in a three-minute message, which reduced the Australian cricket legend to tears as he paid tribute to his great mate.

“Shane Keith Warne. For me, the greatest ever spin bowler to have played the game of cricket,” Ponting said.

“In fact, for me, he is clearly the greatest cricketer of the modern era.

“For the 15 years that he represented Australia, I, like you, witnessed something very special.

“A global superstar that changed our game forever. He single-handedly inspired a generation of boys and girls all around the world who wanted to be like Shane Warne. Wanting to bowl spin and dominate batters and games alike.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🗣️ "The ultimate competitor. Star power. Never beaten. Reliable. Accepting and caring. Infectious smile. The life of the party. Larrikin. Generous beyond peer."<br><br>Ricky Ponting's tribute to Shane Warne 👑 <a href="https://t.co/ZuarLWTT4b">pic.twitter.com/ZuarLWTT4b</a></p>— 7Cricket (@7Cricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/7Cricket/status/1600735956671336450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

“I don’t know what it was, but Shane and I hit it off from our very first introduction. In 1992 at the Cricket Academy in Adelaide.

“We became instant mates. He showed me the ropes, gave me my nickname that has stuck with me ever since.

“I miss those chats so much. Fitting that one of my fondest memories playing with Warnie was our 2006 Ashes Test win back in Adelaide.

“The game they said we couldn’t win. But in England’s second innings, it was time for the world to see absolute brilliance that was Shane Warne. It was time to sit back and watch The King on his stage.

“He bowled 32 of the most extraordinary overs, taking 4-49 in a performance that set up our eventual win.

“When reflecting on a few words and statements that capture my feelings for my 30-year mateship with Warnie, I don’t think I have ever had so many words and emotions come into my mind all at once.

“The ultimate competitor. Star power. Never beaten. Reliable. Accepting and caring. Infectious smile. The life of the party. Larrikin. Generous beyond belief.

“His achievements, passion and knowledge of the game was something to behold. He was a superstar, a game-changer, a leader, an innovator and, above all, a bloody good bloke.

“Warnie, there will never be another like you. Man, myth and now legend. I love you, mate.”

Ponting reflected on his tribute by revealing he could have spoken for another quarter of an hour at least on Warne.

“I got through it pretty good, made my way through. It was all on autocue, I could see the end on the bottom of the page,” Ponting said on Channel 7.

“I was going through it and it got down to the bottom bit and that’s when I lost it a little bit there. I could go on for another 10 or 15 minutes.”

Ponting revealed to another long time friend and teammate Matthew Hayden that he still struggles to hear Warne’s voice in cricket replays that come on the TV throughout the summer.

“Since his passing, I don’t know if you’ve been the same at home, but if there’s been any replays of cricket games on, I’ve had to turn it down,” Ponting said to Hayden on Channel 7.

“You can hear his voice somewhere, and then you go and find where it is in the house and you have to turn it down.

“We all notice the loss most when the summer starts here in Australia. When he’s not here and when you’re not hearing the bold predictions, and you’re not hearing his genius in the commentary box.

“And the fact we don’t get to see him on the golf course and get some money out of him as well through the course of the summer!

“Very sadly missed.”

Warne will be honoured at the Sport Australia Hall of Fame event on Thursday night.
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Another anniversary

The Ball of the Century, also referred to as the Gatting Ball[1] or simply That Ball,[2] is a cricket delivery bowled by Australian spin bowler Shane Warne to English batter Mike Gatting on 4 June 1993, the second day of the first Test of the 1993 Ashes series, at Old Trafford in Manchester.[3]

 
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Born: September 13, 1969, Upper Ferntree Gully, Australia

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Birth anniversary of one of the best spinners this world has ever seen.
 
Happy Birthday to the greatest spinner the game has ever seen.

RIP!
 
There is no comparison between what Warne achieved and other spinners. While Murali was more lethal than Warne when the pitch was spinning or they were playing in Sri Lanka, Warne dominated everywhere against every team. He was a big-match player, never afraid to perform in crunch matches.

Warne was a superstar and the savior of leg-spin bowling in the 90s and 2000s era
 
adi_62941 said:
There is no comparison between what Warne achieved and other spinners. While Murali was more lethal than Warne when the pitch was spinning or they were playing in Sri Lanka, Warne dominated everywhere against every team. He was a big-match player, never afraid to perform in crunch matches.

Warne was a superstar and the savior of leg-spin bowling in the 90s and 2000s era
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As much as I adore Murali as a person, I simply can’t get over his action. Even a blind man could see it. But having said that, Murali conducted himself way better than Warne both on and off field.
 
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As much as I adore Murali as a person, I simply can’t get over his action. Even a blind man could see it. But having said that, Murali conducted himself way better than Warne both on and off field.
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Warne came from a different set of thoughts and culture. His flamboyant nature played a significant role in shaping his off-field actions.
 
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Warne came from a different set of thoughts and culture. His flamboyant nature played a significant role in shaping his off-field actions.
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I have always considered Warne the greatest spinner to have laced a pair of boots. No wonder he makes it to almost every All Time XI compiled by greats of the game.
 
I have never seen a leg spin bowler with such remarkable control as Shane Warne did.

He used to bowl a googly from the same grip which he used to bowl a leg spin even on a slow motion camera u cant read it.
 
Here's a man who was selected among the 5 cricketers of the century by Wisden (by number of votes) - Don Bradman, Garry Sobers, Jack Hobbs, Shane Warne, Viv Richards.
 
Best spinner ever.

The biggest travesty for world cricket is that Murali Chucker has more wickets than him. What a shame as a cricket fan.
 
No doubt the Greatest leg spinner in cricketing history. Add to his bowling skills he had a fantastic cricketing Brain which further enhanced him.

Unlike alot of fans, I witnessed alot of his younger years of his participation in the Lancashire league for Accrington cc.
 
Not just the greatest leg spinner but the greatest spinner to me.

Murali's achievements will forever be tainted
 
Best of the best among the greats of the game. Gone too soon. Would have done so much more than he already did for cricket.
 
Wasim Akram has heaped praise on spin great Shane Warne and also talked about the relationship he had with the late Australian player," he said while speaking to sports digital media:

"Players and leaders like Shane Warne are not born everyday in this world. I knew him personally very well. He used to live just two minutes away from my house. In fact, I'll tell you another interesting thing. Shane Warne bought his last house from my in-laws - Tony Thompson and Greta. He bought their house."

"There was only one Shane Warne. The passion, the knowledge about the game, the involvement in the game, the energy he brought, I don't think it is easy to match that. If I remember correctly, he even led Rajasthan Royals to the IPL trophy in the inaugural season."
 
Remembering the great King of Spin, Shane Warne, on his 55th birth anniversary. His remarkable numbers speak for themselves:

339 - Matches
464 - Innings
857.5 - Overs Bowled
1871 - Maidens
1001 - Wickets
8/71 - Best Bowling Innings (BBI)
12/128 - Best Bowling Match (BBM)
38 - 5 Wicket Innings (5WI)
10 - 10 Wicket Matches (10WM)
 
Shane Warne didn’t eat a vegetable from age 13 to 30, was engaged to a model and was named one of greatest cricketers of the century

Warne was renowned for his freakish ability to spin a ball and bamboozle every batsman he faced.
But he was also a constant presence in gossip columns, with rumours regarding various romances running rife in both Australian and English tabloids.

Amid his string of fleeting romances, Warne's most high-profile relationship was undeniably his three-year romance with English actress and model Elizabeth Hurley.

The pair first met in 2010 at the Royal Ascot Racecourse, although at the time Hurley was still married to businessman Arun Nayar while Warne attempted to rekindle his relationship with ex-wife Simone Callahan.

Warne and Hurley went on to exchange rather flirtatious tweets to one another in late 2010, with the latter cheekily requesting a picture of the Australian in his underwear.

Warne wrote: "Playing with Michael Vaughan today, want a pic on the first tee? Won't show my lucky spinners underwear I have on though!!!"

Hurley replied: "Don't be a spoilsport - give all your lady followers a treat. Snigger."

They became an item once they had fully separated from their respective partners and became engaged in October 2011 when Warne proposed to Hurley in the Mediterranean.

Warne and Hurley's romance continued to move at a rapid pace as the pair bought a mansion near Ledbury in 2012.

However, they called off their engagement in December 2013 to bring an end to arguably the most high-profile romance featuring a cricketer.

Although they had split, Warne and Hurley remained friends over the coming years.

During their time together, Hurley made an effort to make Warne switch up his infamous dietary habits.

In an interview with The Times in 2015, Warne revealed he did not eat any vegetables from age 13 to 30.

"You know foodies? I am the opposite of a foodie," Warne said.

Hurley did manage to get Warne to introduce green beans into his diet, but that was as good as it got.

Warne's diet was, well, rather unexpansive.

"I like hot chips, pasta, pizza, white-bread cheese sandwiches and apples - everything else I can take or leave, mainly leave," Warne wrote in his 2018 autobiography, 'No Spin'.

"I do like ribs and roast pork too".

Warne also believed 'sitting in a restaurant is a waste of time, the same as cooking' and felt 'food gets in the way of a good time'.

One rather unique meal Warne was a major advocate for was his lasagne sandwiches, where he'd stuff lasagne between two bread rolls lathered in butter.

Warne was also the subject of further culinary intrigue when, during Australia's 1998 tour of India, six tonnes of spaghetti and baked beans arrived addressed to him

Unsurprisingly, it sparked rumours Warne lived on nothing but baked beans and spaghetti during the India tour.

But the spin king later debunked the story on social media as he revealed the entire team saw then-coach Geoff Marsh have baked beans and spaghetti for breakfast.

"And we sat there after having the spicy stuff for so long in India, and we thought how good will some spaghetti and baked beans be on toast," Warne said.

"So we said to Geoff Marsh, 'We still have three weeks to go, is it possible to get some of these?' So the next day he spoke to Cricket Australia and told us, 'They've organised it and they should be here in a couple of days.'"

Warne and his teammates arrived at the dock where the crates of spaghetti and baked beans had arrived, only to find his name was adorned on the crates.

"There were a lot of other players who wanted the spaghetti and beans but it was just addressed to me," Warne said.

"So we all helped ourselves to a few tins and we gave away the rest to all the people in India."

Questionable dietary choices and his glamorous relationship with a model aside, Warne achieved his levels of notoriety through his remarkable talent with a cricket ball.

In 2000, was named by Wisden as one of the five cricketers of the century alongside Donald Bradman, Garfield Sobers, Viv Richards and Jack Hobbs.

Of that five, Warne was the only specialist bowler named, such was his standing in the game.

Warne took over 1,000 international wickets for Australia thanks to his ripping leg spinners, with 708 coming in the Test arena.

No wicket was more memorable than his first-ever one against England in 1993.

It was Warne's first Ashes series as Australia and England began the series at Old Trafford in Manchester.

Warne, just 23 at the time, was brought on by then-captain Allan Border to roll the arm over as Graham Gooch and Mike Gatting looked to build up a partnership.

However, Gatting had little idea he was about to be on the wrong side of history.

Warne's delivery pitched outside his leg stump, only to viciously spin back past Gatting's outstretched bat and towards the stumps.

Australian wicketkeeper Ian Healy had his arms outstretched while Gatting could only look at the pitch in front of him in disbelief after Warne's ball sent the bails flying.

Warne's first Ashes wicket was later declared the 'ball of the century' as Australia went on to win the first Test and subsequently the series 4-1.

He would go on to take a total of 227 wickets in all formats against England.

Warne would retire from international cricket in 2007 and all forms of the game in 2013 as he began his career as a commentator for Nine and Fox Cricket in Australia as well as Sky Sports in England.

Sadly the world lost his legendary insights in March 2022 when Warne died aged 52 while on holiday with friends in Ko Samui, Thailand.

The cricket legend suffered a heart attack and was unable to be revived by medical staff as tributes from his former teammates and celebrities poured in.

Warne was awarded a state memorial service at the Melbourne Cricket Ground as 55,000 fans paid their respects.

With all that Warne achieved in his life, it is a near-impossible task to distil it into words.

But Warne managed to do just that: "I liked loud music, I smoked, I drank and I bowled a bit of leg spin. I don't have any regrets."

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Shane Warne is the greatest spinner hands down and probably the top 5 cricketers ever to play the game.

Sachin
Wasim
Lara
Warne
Murali

These are the fab 5 of 90s

I know some names are missing but these are the benchmark and marquee players of the 90s.
 
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