[VIDEOS] What has happened to Hassan Ali recently?

[Snowflake]

Loving all the posts here that provide us with rare insight into what's happening in Hassan's head e.g. Superstar syndrome, got no drive, thinks he's already made it, full of himself etc )

You guys don't know about what's going on in his head, so please keep your conjectures to yourself. He lost form, which every single bowler in the world does at some point in their careers, and got injured. He's probably working hard to make a comeback and hopefully he will come back stronger.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Height is the issue. At his height he needs to be very accurate . Gets driven easily when he pitches it up with no movement .

 

[Snowflake]

Height is the issue. At his height he needs to be very accurate . Gets driven easily when he pitches it up with no movement .

Agreed. The margin of error for Hassan is very low.

 

[Captain caveman]

Height is the issue. At his height he needs to be very accurate . Gets driven easily when he pitches it up with no movement .

Spot on!
He was accurate and moved the ball when he was at his best
He is not moving the ball and has a back injury, which has reduced his speed, along with his short stature, makes him cannon fodder now. Has to regain fitness and work on his speed and movement of the ball.

 

[MMHS]

Loving all the posts here that provide us with rare insight into what's happening in Hassan's head e.g. Superstar syndrome, got no drive, thinks he's already made it, full of himself etc )

You guys don't know about what's going on in his head, so please keep your conjectures to yourself. He lost form, which every single bowler in the world does at some point in their careers, and got injured. He's probably working hard to make a comeback and hopefully he will come back stronger.

No, I know exactly what he is suffering from and what he needs to do to fix that - it will be proven in due course of time, if he gets a second chance.

For a bowler of his height, speed and type, he needs to be extremely accurate with a perfect stock ball, that he can land on spot at least 4 times out of six. He has to be a pressure bowler, rather than someone does it with swing, cut, pace or bounce. What damage he has done since CT 2017 is playing too may T20s here and there, including T20Is - a type of cricket where you experiment every ball and constantly change line, length, grip. That has distorted his focus and malfunctioned his RADAR - now guy is still bowling couple of beauties here and here, but lots of trash in between - top batting sides will hit him selectively and he'll oblige with couple of hit me balls every over.

He needs his focus back, and his bowling discipline back - starting of that could be complete shut down of T20 shop. There had been many other PAK pacers in past with questionable attitude, but their skill didn't melt down as such and so fast.

 

[Usman Chadda]

His career is definitely not over

He just needs to get his line tighter and start hitting that in-between length much more regularly. That's what made Hasan so lethal. Also he is a more than handy bat and a terrific fielder, so he will always be around one way or the other.

 

[sunny85]

Pakistan will find a far better bowler than him . Why was even he hyped up so much. Dosen't look threatening to me. I am sure with so much talent lying around there will be millions waiting in line and with much better skill set.

 

[GreenKhan]

People on this forum are saying why was he even hyped so much ?? Are they delusional.

He only was only the leading wicket taker and if I’m not mistaken man of the tournament in the last premier even Pakistan won .
Some fans have such short memories that they undo good work previously done by players just because they are not performing in the present .

He obviously lost form and confidence and potentially got complacent and couple that with injuries then that’s not going to bode well for any player .
If he has the desire and works hard enough I’m sure he will be back .

 

[sunny85]

People on this forum are saying why was he even hyped so much ?? Are they delusional.

He only was only the leading wicket taker and if I’m not mistaken man of the tournament in the last premier even Pakistan won .
Some fans have such short memories that they undo good work previously done by players just because they are not performing in the present .

He obviously lost form and confidence and potentially got complacent and couple that with injuries then that’s not going to bode well for any player .
If he has the desire and works hard enough I’m sure he will be back .

I am sure you have better talent in the bench. Afridi, Abbas, Aamir, Hasnain and new speed sensation in Australia. What more you want ????. Build a bowling attack around them.

 

[saeed5646]

Loving all the posts here that provide us with rare insight into what's happening in Hassan's head e.g. Superstar syndrome, got no drive, thinks he's already made it, full of himself etc )

You guys don't know about what's going on in his head, so please keep your conjectures to yourself. He lost form, which every single bowler in the world does at some point in their careers, and got injured. He's probably working hard to make a comeback and hopefully he will come back stronger.

His career is definitely not over

He just needs to get his line tighter and start hitting that in-between length much more regularly. That's what made Hasan so lethal. Also he is a more than handy bat and a terrific fielder, so he will always be around one way or the other.

People on this forum are saying why was he even hyped so much ?? Are they delusional.

He only was only the leading wicket taker and if I’m not mistaken man of the tournament in the last premier even Pakistan won .
Some fans have such short memories that they undo good work previously done by players just because they are not performing in the present .

He obviously lost form and confidence and potentially got complacent and couple that with injuries then that’s not going to bode well for any player .
If he has the desire and works hard enough I’m sure he will be back .

Totally agree with you guys .He is here to stay and will back to best soon

 

[GreenKhan]

I am sure you have better talent in the bench. Afridi, Abbas, Aamir, Hasnain and new speed sensation in Australia. What more you want ????. Build a bowling attack around them.

Time will tell whether they are better or worse than Hassan Ali . But a sensible supporter should not have such tunnel vision that they disregard a players previous achievements when they are on a career low. An inform Hassan Ali will only add quality to the bowling attack .

With regards to what more I want . I want the best for my team which means having strength in depth in all facets of the game !

 

[topspin]

Any update about his injury .Missing him already

Who should he replace in the side out of the following:

Test team

1. Pakistan's preferred medium pacer: Abbas/Imran Khan
2. Shaheen
3. Naseem Shah

 

[Hasan123]

I want to see how he does on his return. He definitely needed some time away.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

I want to see how he does on his return. He definitely needed some time away.

With the likes of Shaheen, Naseem, Akif, Hasnain, Sameen Gul it may never happen.

 

[JaDed]

Can’t wait for him to comeback so he does well in first month of his comeback and then we smack him again.

Yes I think Bhangra was childish so I want our batsmen to have another go at him, again and again!

 

[Abdullah719]

Hassan set to return to competitive cricket

Fast bowler Hassan Ali is set to make his comeback to competitive cricket after being out of action for over two months due to a back injury.

Hassan, 25, missed Pakistan’s home series against Sri Lanka and the subsequent tour of Australia.

The injury also largely kept Hassan from partaking in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy matches, and he has just a single red-ball match under his belt so far this season.

An official of domestic team Central Punjab said that Hassan is rejoining the team for the next match.

“Hassan Ali is coming to join us ahead of the next match. Faheem Ashraf will also join us before the final,” said Ejaz Ahmed junior, the head coach of Central Punjab team.

Hassan’s only first-class outing came against Southern Punjab in September in Lahore. He sustained a back injury soon after, which has kept him out of action.

Subsequently, he was sent to the National Cricket Academy for rehabilitation. PCB’s director sports and medical sciences Dr. Sohail Saleem has also confirmed that Hassan is on track to make his return to first-class cricket.

“Hasan Ali has shown improvement over the past few weeks during his rehabilitation programme at the National Cricket Academy,” the doctor said.

“He has been practicing in nets of late and bowled seven overs in a club match without any discomfort today. I am confident that he will play the ninth round of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy.”

Hassan has played nine Tests, 53 ODIs and 30 T20Is for Pakistan.—Agencies

https://pakobserver.net/hassan-set-to-return-to-competitive-cricket/

 

[saeed5646]

Excellent news .

 

[MenInG]

Reports indicate that he is still not fit with a back injury, and that is the reason he is not playing the 9th round of QEA

 

[Artaxerxes]

PCB should hire Ian Pont as bowling coach for a month or two.He is the best fast bowling coach.Musa,Naseem,Shaheen,
Hasnain and even Hassan could benefit greatly from his coaching.This guy can help them to bowl very fast.

 

[Relic]

Who even cares??
The fact is that Hasan Ali prefers money and fame over playing for his country.
A few dollars have completely changed his priorities.
If he isn't going to give importance to his cricket, why should we give importance to him?

 

[lifecric7]

Will Hasan Ali make a comeback?

Was watching random IPL old ads and got recommended PSL ads. Saw this ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGG9ttSyd54
I felt a connect from accross the border(well not literally as I am settled in OZ now).

Got me thinking about this guy.. i know he did some antics at wagah which I personally did not like.. but i guess he is young and he was excited to be there.
If some of the events in the ad are true, which i presume would be as he comes from a humble background and making his mark as a short height bowler in pakistan's factory of tall fast bowlers is challenging.
I want to understand from Pakistan friends.. does he have the same drive as he had in his struggle days. I have read reports of him spending time on Insta and in the bars.
It would be sad if he does not make a comeback.. as his story is very relatable in terms of coming from small towns and backwaters and getting success.
Many cricketers in India also come from a humble background e.g. Dhoni,
Jadeja. But they have stayed humble and achieved success.
Is there anything wrong in system in the Pakistan as compared to earlier times. As I know Waqar, Wasim, Akthar also come from humble backgrounds but they achieved a lot of success.
Can this guy do it now..?

 

[Mamoon]

I thoroughly enjoyed his humiliation in the Asia Cup after his antics at the border and the “I want to take 10 wickets against India” statement.

Rohit and Dhawan put him in his place, and he hasn’t recovered from that bullying. However, he is still a better option than Imran, Hasnain and Musa. It won’t be long before he makes a comeback in all formats.

 

[Mamoon]

As far as his drive is concerned, his head was in the clouds after the Champions Trophy. After spending some time out of the team, one can hope that he has regained his perspective and will start to value the privilege of playing international cricket moving forward.

 

[Shazzam]

I enjoyed his bowling quiet a bit. The guy was a showman. An entertainer we need in our team to make it marketable. When a cricketer believes in his skill, people around the globe do as well. What Hasan Ali needed was a break from Cricket. I hope he comes back stronger to show the world what a talent he is.

 

[Rayyman]

When I first saw Hasan Ali he looked a bit raw.

But he worked on his fitness, pace, swing, and variations.

He became the world’s best bowler.

He had courage, determination, and humility.

Hasan started to overtrain and his body could not handle the workload.

His performances went downhill and the pressure got to him.

He will come back stronger InshaAllah.

 

[tyron_woodley]

junaid khan pre injury was the better bowler. Could have been Pakistan's best bowler.

 

[King_Kohli]

Comeback chances are slim.
Pakistan has many fast bowlers, too much competition.

 

[Titan24]

There is no doubt that he will. He is in the plans of current management just like he was in the plans of previous management. He actually did well in tests and T20s however fans generally take the memory of one format and spread it over the whole career of a person.

Yes he was poor in ODIs and I dont mind him earning his place back in that format like many other bowler e.g Henry is preferred over Southee in ODIs while Southee plays T20s and tests. Hassan has been pretty decent in tests and T20s and once he is fit he will join the squads.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

There is no doubt that he will. He is in the plans of current management just like he was in the plans of previous management. He actually did well in tests and T20s however fans generally take the memory of one format and spread it over the whole career of a person.

Yes he was poor in ODIs and I dont mind him earning his place back in that format like many other bowler e.g Henry is preferred over Southee in ODIs while Southee plays T20s and tests. Hassan has been pretty decent in tests and T20s and once he is fit he will join the squads.

How do you know he is the plans? I sure hope he isn't. He is absolute trash in tests too, look at what he did in SA. If he wants to come back to the side he better perform in QEA. I absolutely hate his attitude and hope he stays out.

 

[Titan24]

Comeback chances are slim.
Pakistan has many fast bowlers, too much competition.

Most of those fast bowlers are teenagers with not much of FC experience, if the bowlers would have 22,23 years of age with as much potential as the young brigade and with 20,30 FC matches under their belt than there might have been more competition for Hassan as transferring skills to international cricket is slightly easier if you have FC experience. Naseem and Shaheen might be the constant phenomenon while Hasnain, Musa will be rotated across the formats which will have Amir and Hassan will be front runners in T20s and ODIs(Hassan might beed to find his place back) along with Shaheen while Abbas and Hassan will be front runners in tests.

 

[Titan24]

How do you know he is the plans? I sure hope he isn't. He is absolute trash in tests too, look at what he did in SA. If he wants to come back to the side he better perform in QEA. I absolutely hate his attitude and hope he stays out.

You will see him part of the squad once he is fit. In SA almost every Pak bowler struggled as it was the first tour for the pacers and its not an easy place to adjust. Just a series before that vs NZ he took 13 wickets in 3 tests vs NZ at an avg of 21 and with 1 5wkt haul.

If the pacers will be dropped after their every first tour of SENA than Pak will remain changing its pacers to eternity. Again, he is fit he will be in the Pak squads though he should ideally earn the ODI place but sometimes you never know with Pak selections, many things get reset after injuries and poor performances in one format are carried over to others while selecting teams just like our fans do.

 

[Titan24]

How do you know he is the plans? I sure hope he isn't.

Its just common sense; Firstly he was never dropped from any of the squads, he was just injured. In tests Amir and Wahab are gone and other than Abbas he is the bowler who has some experience and averages 28 with the ball.

In T20s combo of Wahab and Hasnain both being almost similar kind of bowlers which arent always in control, couldnt get wickets at key moments so return of Hassan and Shaheen before T20 WC is imminent.

 

[sunny85]

Will he be again doing those stunts at wagah border once he is back. Or was it one time sponsored one.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

lost case for me ..... did not improve an iota from the champions trophy heroics, actually went backwards...

his attitude towards the game is as rubbish as it gets.... ultimate dummys guide on how "NOT" to be a sportsman ....... complete shame

him and his buddy came with so much promise but got lost in showbiz ... only good for PSL as i doubt anyother leage will even pick him , T10 might

 

[MenInG]

Waqar Younis in his interview with PP


PakPassion.net: Hassan Ali’s form and confidence seems to have nose-dived after his heroics in the 2017 Champions Trophy. Where is he going wrong?

Waqar Younis: There is no doubt about his talent, but he has fallen away of late. He was bowling at a good pace, good lines and bowling a very probing length, but his form has suffered of late. He played a lot of cricket in a 2-year period without much rest. He has lost some pace and of course on top of that he has had some injury problems. He had a back injury, was working at the National Cricket Academy to get back to full fitness and recovered from the back injury. He then went and played in the Quaid-E-Azam Trophy, but then suddenly discovered he had fractured ribs. His bowling action is a very open-chested action which is hard on the ribs and the back. He’s an asset when fit and firing on all cylinders. He’s a bundle of energy on the field, a good fielder and I’m looking forward to having him back. He’s a very handy cricketer and he’s at the NCA working on his fitness. I’m expecting him to start bowling in about a week’s time hopefully if there is no pain.

 

[CricketDon]

I honestly think him and Shadab are finished in international cricket. Any top 5 team would have sent them packing by now.

Seeing as it’s Pakistan him and his buddy will play another 100 games.

 

[Abdullah719]

I honestly think him and Shadab are finished in international cricket. Any top 5 team would have sent them packing by now.

Seeing as it’s Pakistan him and his buddy will play another 100 games.

No top 5 team would class a 25 and a 21-year-old as 'finished'. They might drop them for a short while or work with them on the sidelines, though.

 

[aloo paratha]

I honestly think him and Shadab are finished in international cricket. Any top 5 team would have sent them packing by now.

Seeing as it’s Pakistan him and his buddy will play another 100 games.

Finished in their low-mid twenties?

 

[Hyperion66]

I honestly think him and Shadab are finished in international cricket. Any top 5 team would have sent them packing by now.

Seeing as it’s Pakistan him and his buddy will play another 100 games.

Couldn't agree more, they don't belong in the international level, very much possible that their flukish purple patch that lasted a few months might have robbed a couple years of some genuinely deserving candidates.

 

[Saj]

Time is on his side and he can still regain his best form. But I feel he needs to find that hunger and desire once again and almost start from scratch.

It felt like he achieved so much in such a short space of time, perhaps it all came too quickly for him.

 

[Sher Khan]

Time is on his side and he can still regain his best form. But I feel he needs to find that hunger and desire once again and almost start from scratch.

It felt like he achieved so much in such a short space of time, perhaps it all came too quickly for him.

He did achieve a lot. Being the best bowler in a global tournament and winning your country the champions trophy is no small feat. He is a world class bowler. I dont agree with the fact that he thinks oh himself as a superstar. He just had a form dip and a few injury problems. But will be back strong.

 

[barah_admi]

He did achieve a lot. Being the best bowler in a global tournament and winning your country the champions trophy is no small feat. He is a world class bowler. I dont agree with the fact that he thinks oh himself as a superstar. He just had a form dip and a few injury problems. But will be back strong.

Finally a common sense post, I assume you are Pakistani.

Hasan Ali was clearly carrying injuries in his last few games, he was not given the care and medical attention he needed and has suffered two injuries, in close succession, over a very short period of time. This is not the behaviour of a modern sporting outfit and the PCB really needs to up its game when it comes to this sort of player maintenance.

I hope his recovery has gone well and he is kept away from tests and ODIs, with focus on him being fit and match ready for the T20 world cup.

 

[Mercurial]

Strange case this one. I think he hit his peak way too early in his career, won us CT. He doesn't seem to have another driving force, lol. He ain't world class anymore, I won't say he is finished but he has become mediocre for sure now.

 

[Mercurial]

I honestly think him and Shadab are finished in international cricket. Any top 5 team would have sent them packing by now.

Seeing as it’s Pakistan him and his buddy will play another 100 games.

Shadab Khan is the real deal, but sadly they aren't selecting him in the Test team. His stats are decent for a modern day spinner, plus he can bat too in ODIs and Tests. He is not finished at all.

 

[MenInG]

Looks good - got Sharjeel's wicket

 

[MenInG]

Excellent 1/15 in 3 overs

 

[MenInG]

2/36 in 4 overs against IU

 

[MenInG]

Question to Abdul Razzaq on what Hassan Ali needs to do improve:

"Look [to improve in] cricket needs hard-work; When you take the focus off hard-work then your downfall starts; All our youngsters should know that cricket is not just about money; You can always earn money but when you work hard, you will improve and you will progress upwards too"

 

[MenInG]

He needs to do some serious hard work - the loss of central contract should act as a good reminder for him.

 

[Savak]

He needs to do some serious hard work - the loss of central contract should act as a good reminder for him.

I agree, he has been living the super star life and been having the attitude of a super star without much meaningful achievements. This should give him a kick on the backside and spur him on.

 

[shamaan]

Needs to sort him seld out and work hard and forget the star life style

 

[MenInG]

I agree, he has been living the super star life and been having the attitude of a super star without much meaningful achievements. This should give him a kick on the backside and spur him on.

Age is on his side - wonder if someone will mentor him to turn it around!

 

[hitthestump]

I agree, he has been living the super star life and been having the attitude of a super star without much meaningful achievements. This should give him a kick on the backside and spur him on.

This is fine but also shows he's been let down. The PCB have clearly failed to look after and nurture one of their best bowling talents. Fame can get to anyone's head at that age so the PCB need to reflect on this and ensure better measures are in place to protect future talent.

 

[shamaan]

This is fine but also shows he's been let down. The PCB have clearly failed to look after and nurture one of their best bowling talents. Fame can get to anyone's head at that age so the PCB need to reflect on this and ensure better measures are in place to protect future talent.

What measures are needed ?

 

[Saj]

Well this is when the hard work starts.

Players who can come back from such setbacks and low points are the ones who are the real deal.

 

[Savak]

This is fine but also shows he's been let down. The PCB have clearly failed to look after and nurture one of their best bowling talents. Fame can get to anyone's head at that age so the PCB need to reflect on this and ensure better measures are in place to protect future talent.

Players have to take personal responsibility. The PCB cannot molly coddle everyone.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hassan Ali's career has taken a huge downward turn since his heroics in the 2017 Champions Trophy. He needs to regain that desire to succeed, that hunger to improve, get back to basics, put cricket first once again. Over to you Hassan.......you can do it <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1260630960690868224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[The Viper]

Hassan posted this but deleted it.

 

[ManFan]

Hassan posted this but deleted it.

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Batting?

 

[hitthestump]

What measures are needed ?

Mentoring, curfews (?), measurable goals to constantly strive towards - just off the top of my head.

I get that a player should look after himself but i think the PCB could do more to guide the young players, especially it looks like they're falling off like in Hasan Ali's case. It's only for the benefit for the national team.

Hasan isn't the only one. It's shocking that our young players have fallen off so badly since CT17. Even the seniors like Safaraz and Azhar Ali have been in freefall. They're supposed to be improving!

I think this points to our players needing more support.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Looks like Hasan Ali may need back surgery as well which will keep him out for 8 months.

Sad to see. Hope he can get healthy again and back on top but its starting to look unlikely with all these injuries.

 

[shamaan]

Hassan posted this but deleted it.

View attachment 100980

Did he post this yesterday or when was it posted

 

[shamaan]

Mentoring, curfews (?), measurable goals to constantly strive towards - just off the top of my head.

I get that a player should look after himself but i think the PCB could do more to guide the young players, especially it looks like they're falling off like in Hasan Ali's case. It's only for the benefit for the national team.

Hasan isn't the only one. It's shocking that our young players have fallen off so badly since CT17. Even the seniors like Safaraz and Azhar Ali have been in freefall. They're supposed to be improving!

I think this points to our players needing more support.

Mentoring could be a good one but if you mentor 1 you will have to mentor all of them the x players did do vidoe calls to players dont no if it worked.curfews would never work and would never recommend that.

 

[Abdullah719]

Did he post this yesterday or when was it posted

13th May. Yes.

 

[shamaan]

13th May. Yes.

Wow basically he saying I dont care and I am superstar

 

[ataullah]

Was just watching champions trophy and saw Hasan Ali in great shape physically. He looked s million dollars. His pace and seam position was awesome. Can he get back the form or is he the bowling version of Umar Akmal???

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Who should he replace in the side out of the following:

Test team

1. Pakistan's preferred medium pacer: Abbas/Imran Khan
2. Shaheen
3. Naseem Shah

Faheem Ashraf.

 

[saeed5646]

Defending champions but currently bottom-placed Central Punjab have all to play for in their fixture against Khyber Pakhtunkhwa at the UBL Sports Complex. After Azhar Ali’s departure, fast bowler Hasan Ali has been named captained of the side with seasoned batsman Usman Salahuddin his deputy.

 

[Major]

Hasan Ali is such a lousy bowler. He cant bowl dot balls

 

[gazza619]

Hasan Ali is such a lousy bowler. He cant bowl dot balls

Captains trust far too much in him, and thats the problem.

 

[The_KING]

This guy is only useful in test cricket.

 

[Rana]

This guy is only useful in test cricket.

That too because batters are not playing with a ultra aggressive mindset. If someone wants to go after him and cause him to leak runs, they can!

 

[Rana]

He’s become the bowler every team targets now

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He cant land the ball properly anymore. Bowls the exact opposite of what the situation demands.

I think he needs a break from cricket.

Should be dropped for the next few matches.

 

[waqar goraya]

Looking at the form he is in and his recent record , he would not have defended even 25 in his last over.
He is a better test bowler though.

 

[cricketerB94]

He should be considered as a specialist test bowler now. His bowling gets wayward when attacked, and in LOIs batters will attack him more often.

 

[mazkhan]

He's always been a bottler .

His white ball form has peaked long time ago imo , him and wasim jnr are prone to maulings.

 

[moghul]

Just keep him to tests only for year or so, then discard him for ever. His test form will also not last for long. Too short and not pacy enough to last much longer in any format in International cricket, overrated .

 

[Saj]

Stats so far in PSL7:

Wickets 6
Runs conceded 254
Economy rate 11.20

 

[adzzy786]

He was horrendous in the World Cup, he’s been horrendous in the PSL. I said this a few years ago he has passed his peak and needs to be dropped