[VIDEOS] Why Indian Hindus hate Zakir Naik so profoundly?

[The Bald Eagle]

There is always a reason to hate some one. It could be one's brutal or unjust actions and sometimes it could also pertain to one's foul language full of tropes, lies or expletives. But why a scholar like Zakir Naik enjoys a status of boogeyman for Indian Hindus even among liberal Hindus despite the fact that he has never partake in any terrorist activity against the Indians and never have endorsed any such attempt.

So is the hatred against Zakir Naik result of his conversion of Hindus to Islam on mass scale or is there any plausible explanation by Hindus to justify their hatred of modern day inter religion scholar?

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Because he is an extremist.
And most of Indians don't know about this Idiot.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Most don't know who Zakir Naik is. He is no Bollywood celebrity. Dawood Ibrahim is more popular than Zakir Naik.

The ones that know don't like him because of some of the speeches he gave. They know that Zakir Bhai is lying to seek gullible converts.

 

[JaDed]

He was famous from 2010-16 ish, ask Gen Z and they would mistake him for the comedian Zakir Khan.

Every Religious talker has his time, I’m sure Zakir milks enough money abroad, should rarely care about India anymore.

 

[JaDed]

Here is an article from Mayalsians, it’s not just Indian Non- Muslims that dislike him:

Zakir Naik’s Impact on Malaysia: Religion and Politics

In recent years, Malaysia has developed an indigenous community of Muslim preachers that have set themselves apart from traditional preaching in that they have commercialized aspects of religion and inspired cult followings, thereby becoming celebrity imams. This local community has vigorously...

www.hudson.org

Naik’s detractors can be divided into racial, religious, and political groups. Racially speaking, most Tamil Hindus and Chinese Malaysians are often opposed to Naik. Chinese Malaysians (Buddhists, Taoists, and also Christians) are often indignant about the fact that members of other religions do not have a right to propagate their religion while Naik is given a free hand even though he is an outsider. Their criticism of Naik also intensified after the preacher made a comment stating that Chinese Malaysians are old “guests” of Malaysia since their ancestors were not born in the nation and that they should return to China.26

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Because he is an extremist.
And most of Indians don't know about this Idiot.

But still they dislike someone they don't know much. That is my question

 

[Josh]

He was famous from 2010-16 ish, ask Gen Z and they would mistake him for the comedian Zakir Khan.

Every Religious talker has his time, I’m sure Zakir milks enough money abroad, should rarely care about India anymore.

Are nursery rhymes halal? A good skit on him.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He is an extremist. Has been banned in various countries.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Indians hate him the same way Pakistanis hate Salman Rushdie.

 

[RexRex]

Are nursery rhymes halal? A good skit on him.

This is a good impression

 

[sweep_shot]

BJP Indians (along with some non-BJP Indians) are extremists who can't stomach voluntary conversions of Hindus to Muslims. So, they hate Zakir Naik who have converted many Hindus. Those were voluntary conversions; so, them being mad about it is quite funny and sad.

 

[Technics 1210]

Cos Naik knows the Hindu scriptures.better than most Hindus do.

Fact.

 

[sweep_shot]

Cos Naik knows the Hindu scriptures.better than most Hindus do.

Fact.

This is probably true. LOL.

Most BJP Hindus seem cultural/pretentious Hindus. That's what I think based on what I saw from BJP posters here.

 

[Bewal Express]

Because he converted lots of Hindus to Islam and they didn't have the intellectual capacity to challenge him

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Because he is an extremist.
And most of Indians don't know about this Idiot.

extremist? how?

Is preaching to someone using their own holy book considered extremism?

Prove ur claim!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I think the educated ones believe he has misinterpreted their scriptures and promotes falsehoods about their religion.

Most people will react to such a preacher from an opposite religion with some form of disdain

I don't blame th Hindus for having a dislike.

 

[Bewal Express]

I think the educated ones believe he has misinterpreted their scriptures and promotes falsehoods about their religion.

Most people will react to such a preacher from an opposite religion with some form of disdain

I don't blame th Hindus for having a dislike.

Surely then you challenge him. But his banning was through fear of his success.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Surely then you challenge him. But his banning was through fear of his success.

Surely then you challenge him. But his banning was through fear of his success.

I meant individual Hindus having a dislike as expressed by many of them on this forum. Their dislike is separate to the governments ban (I think).

 

[Bewal Express]

I meant individual Hindus having a dislike as expressed by many of them on this forum. Their dislike is separate to the governments ban ( I think).

They have every right to dislike like him, just like he has every right to preach. They don't have to watch him or listen to him. But as we know the dislike is more because he was very successful in converting Hindus who had no faith in Hinduism.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Surely then you challenge him. But his banning was through fear of his success.

He has been banned in many other countries.

Hindus have better things to do than justify their religion to a muslim.

Success? You mean inspiring people to become extremist?

 

[cricketjoshila]

They have every right to dislike like him, just like he has every right to preach. They don't have to watch him or listen to him. But as we know the dislike is more because he was very successful in converting Hindus who had no faith in Hinduism.

Every right to preach? No he doesn't.

Extremists have no right to preach.

Converting Hindus?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

They have every right to dislike like him, just like he has every right to preach. They don't have to watch him or listen to him. But as we know the dislike is more because he was very successful in converting Hindus who had no faith in Hinduism.

I'd be interested to know the success rate and if there is any follow up with any of the converts to see how they are doing. Did the people remain faithful when the cameras were off? Were they taken care of and taught or just made to convert for the numbers.

In all my life debating with Indians online and offline (small sample size I accept) I have never met an ex Hindu who converted by Zakir.

Usually when someone converts they come back to tell their story and make videos etc to convert others too. Sometimes they become scholars or dawah people too. I haven't seen this ( of course it may exist and I'm unaware of it).

I am not a fan of any ban or the Indian government in general but I think we should take any claims of so called success with a pinch of salt.

Numbers may have been overstated to keep the hype up and the money pouring in.

For some reason (and I could be wrong) I get some major red flags from him now that I am older.

 

[happydavy]

I am pretty sure 99% of India don't even know who he is. I found about it only when I saw in news that he was being banned in India, never cared to find out why. And now i see he's some sort of a celebrity in Pakistan .

 

[Justcrazy]

India have majority of hindus , and they were subjugated by Muslim rulers for a long time. So they have scared minds , and they will blindly oppose everything Islam says , even when there own scriptures says same thing. They have ingrained hatred for Muslims and Islam.

 

[Justcrazy]

Because he is an extremist.
And most of Indians don't know about this Idiot.

Evidence of his extremism ?

 

[Justcrazy]

He has been banned in many other countries.

Hindus have better things to do than justify their religion to a muslim.

Success? You mean inspiring people to become extremist?

Then why Muslims have to justify their religions everywhere ?

Also , when there is a debate , and you come into it , you have to justify.

 

[Justcrazy]

Every right to preach? No he doesn't.

Extremists have no right to preach.

Converting Hindus?

Have you heard BJP leaders speeches ? Zakir Naik is like nursery rhymes in front of those, if you want I will show. How many of those have been banned ?

 

[Hitman]

Then why Muslims have to justify their religions everywhere ?

Also , when there is a debate , and you come into it , you have to justify.

They don't have to as long as they don't create nuisance for the society.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I think the educated ones believe he has misinterpreted their scriptures and promotes falsehoods about their religion.

Most people will react to such a preacher from an opposite religion with some form of disdain

I don't blame th Hindus for having a dislike.

True.

It’s an ideological difference.
Hindus do not go on a rampage to debate with people of any religion as such.

Zakir Naik is an irritation for us.

You don’t want to debate what you don’t fundamentally care about.

Such debates only become interesting if the other party is competing with Islam on conversions. We are not playing that game.

 

[Justcrazy]

They don't have to as long as they don't create nuisance for the society.

What about the hate speeches against Muslims?

 

[Justcrazy]

True.

It’s an ideological difference.
Hindus do not go on a rampage to debate with people of any religion as such.

Zakir Naik is an irritation for us.

You don’t want to debate what you don’t fundamentally care about.

Such debates only become interesting if the other party is competing with Islam on conversions. We are not playing that game.

Unless other parties agree , there would not be any debates my friend.

For example , when I have expressed my opinion here on this forum , it implies I am ready to defend my views and expect to be countered by others.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Unless other parties agree , there would not be any debates my friend.

For example , when I have expressed my opinion here on this forum , it implies I am ready to defend my views and expect to be countered by others.

Keep your views to yourself.

No need to give any views on our religion.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

True.

It’s an ideological difference.
Hindus do not go on a rampage to debate with people of any religion as such.

Zakir Naik is an irritation for us.

You don’t want to debate what you don’t fundamentally care about.

Such debates only become interesting if the other party is competing with Islam on conversions. We are not playing that game.

Not just an ideological difference but a difference in the religion too. From what I have seen nobody has ever converted to Hinduism via debates or Hindu scriptures. It's not that type of religion. It's more a religion of feelings than facts hence why many people who do become Hindus in the west for example are former users of psychedelic drugs that get similar feelings through Yogic practices or others who prefer the feelings of sexual liberation of some Hindu sects.

Hindus claim to not be competing on conversions but it does feel like anyone converting to Islam or converting away from Hinduism is a dagger to the heart for them.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Not just an ideological difference but a difference in the religion too. From what I have seen nobody has ever converted to Hinduism via debates or Hindu scriptures. It's not that type of religion. It's more a religion of feelings than facts hence why many people who do become Hindus in the west for example are former users of psychedelic drugs that get similar feelings through Yogic practices or others who prefer the feelings of sexual liberation of some Hindu sects.

Hindus claim to not be competing on conversions but it does feel like anyone converting to Islam or converting away from Hinduism is a dagger to the heart for them.

Truth be told, majority of muslim converts in the west are in the prison system for rapes, murders, paedophiles and low-level thieves.

Each cohort is simply looking for salvation and/or validation of their past transgressions.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Truth be told, majority of muslim converts in the west are in the prison system for rapes, murders, paedophiles and low-level thieves.

Each cohort is simply looking for salvation and/or validation of their past transgressions.

Truth be told, majority of muslim converts in the west are in the prison system for rapes, murders, paedophiles and low-level thieves.

Each cohort is simply looking for salvation and/or validation of their past transgressions.

I don't think it's the majority but there are a number of concerts in prison yes.

These converts generally look for the structure, community and stability that Islam provides. They find Islam through books and debates or looking at the lives of Muslims

The westerners converting to Hinduism aren't usually looking for this. They are usually looking to get away from these things and find some sort of "freedom" that can be found through things like Yoga and meditation.

 

[Romali_rotti]

There is always a reason to hate some one. It could be one's brutal or unjust actions and sometimes it could also pertain to one's foul language full of tropes, lies or expletives. But why a scholar like Zakir Naik enjoys a status of boogeyman for Indian Hindus even among liberal Hindus despite the fact that he has never partake in any terrorist activity against the Indians and never have endorsed any such attempt.

So is the hatred against Zakir Naik result of his conversion of Hindus to Islam on mass scale or is there any plausible explanation by Hindus to justify their hatred of modern day inter religion scholar?

What are you talking about.

I love the Medikaaall Dooktooorr.

 

[Bewal Express]

Every right to preach? No he doesn't.

Extremists have no right to preach.

Converting Hindus?

What's extremist about exposing( their contradictions) and debating other religions. You wudhu broke when more and more people found his message resonating with them.

 

[anikrc1]

I can easily contradict many of Islam's teaching. But when I did that @Stewie said that I am insulting Islam.

 

[sweep_shot]

I can easily contradict many of Islam's teaching. But when I did that @Stewie said that I am insulting Islam.

There is no contradiction in Islam.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Truth be told, majority of muslim converts in the west are in the prison system for rapes, murders, paedophiles and low-level thieves.

Each cohort is simply looking for salvation and/or validation of their past transgressions.

Like the way you spin it. Majority of the Muslim converts in jail, converted whilst being in jail to find inner peace and find a alternative to being a criminal, and it's islam which gave them that inner peace

 

[anikrc1]

There is no contradiction in Islam.

There is.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Because he is an extremist.
And most of Indians don't know about this Idiot.

Demonstrably untrue, because Indian govt contains several extremists and you have to conclude that the public must approve of them otherwise they would not give them their vote. So that is not the reason they hate Zakir Naik.

 

[RexRex]

Nobody hates him but he sounds like a preacher character that's jumped out of a Simpson's episode. He is a perfect fit for that show. It's amusing to me that so many people look up to this guy.

Regarding Islamic apologists, the most solid one I've come across his Mohammed Hijab. He deals with arguments in a somewhat more rational and logical manner. Also he's deeply studied christian philosophers and uses their socractic method of debating. Google tells me he's graduated from Oxford, not surprising.

 

[Major]

So if someone disagree with Naik, that person is a hindu? A good number of muslims in Pakistan disagree with Naik. Bangladesh is i think not a hindu country aswell.

This whole thread is very ironic, where same people would have an issue with anti muslim politician in denmark or uk, but than go asking why people hate zakir naik.

A guy sits in a secular country, does useless debates about how his religion is the only true and superior religion while all other religions that are being practiced are false. You dont do that. This feeling of being superior just cause you were born into a religion is very stupid thing.

Pakistani people have this false perception that Naik does conversions thats why Hindus hate him, but no its not like that. If you got to Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin in Delhi, those shrines are involved in conversions, yet those are not banned because those places are not going around delivering speeches in public saying your religion is false.

Anyways, this Indian fugitive is messed up in the head and needs to be thrown out of the country. Its a shame the way he went on to insult those poor orphan girls just because of his thoughts. Had this been done by someone else in any other part of the world same Pakistanis would had cried about it. But because it was some self proclaim defender of Islam, justifications are being given.....

 

[Major]

Because he converted lots of Hindus to Islam and they didn't have the intellectual capacity to challenge him

na its an assumption. Alot more conversions take place in the shrines that exist in India.

 

[IndoorCricket]

 

[Justcrazy]

Keep your views to yourself.

No need to give any views on our religion.

There are millions of hindus who give there opinions on Islam and Christianity , even RSS leaders are doing that , why you never had issue with that ?

Social media is here for people to express their views , so if you think what I wrote is wrong , you are free to refute me.

 

[Rajdeep]

So if someone disagree with Naik, that person is a hindu? A good number of muslims in Pakistan disagree with Naik. Bangladesh is i think not a hindu country aswell.

This whole thread is very ironic, where same people would have an issue with anti muslim politician in denmark or uk, but than go asking why people hate zakir naik.

A guy sits in a secular country, does useless debates about how his religion is the only true and superior religion while all other religions that are being practiced are false. You dont do that. This feeling of being superior just cause you were born into a religion is very stupid thing.

Pakistani people have this false perception that Naik does conversions thats why Hindus hate him, but no its not like that. If you got to Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin in Delhi, those shrines are involved in conversions, yet those are not banned because those places are not going around delivering speeches in public saying your religion is false.

Anyways, this Indian fugitive is messed up in the head and needs to be thrown out of the country. Its a shame the way he went on to insult those poor orphan girls just because of his thoughts. Had this been done by someone else in any other part of the world same Pakistanis would had cried about it. But because it was some self proclaim defender of Islam, justifications are being given.....

Excellent post...go give it to them brother @Major

Full support Sir

 

[Justcrazy]

So if someone disagree with Naik, that person is a hindu? A good number of muslims in Pakistan disagree with Naik. Bangladesh is i think not a hindu country aswell.

This whole thread is very ironic, where same people would have an issue with anti muslim politician in denmark or uk, but than go asking why people hate zakir naik.

A guy sits in a secular country, does useless debates about how his religion is the only true and superior religion while all other religions that are being practiced are false. You dont do that. This feeling of being superior just cause you were born into a religion is very stupid thing.

Pakistani people have this false perception that Naik does conversions thats why Hindus hate him, but no its not like that. If you got to Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin in Delhi, those shrines are involved in conversions, yet those are not banned because those places are not going around delivering speeches in public saying your religion is false.

Anyways, this Indian fugitive is messed up in the head and needs to be thrown out of the country. Its a shame the way he went on to insult those poor orphan girls just because of his thoughts. Had this been done by someone else in any other part of the world same Pakistanis would had cried about it. But because it was some self proclaim defender of Islam, justifications are being given.....

Brother It is not Zakir Naik , It is Islam itself which says that it is only true religion and rest are false. Every Muslim believes in that , if someone does not , that person is out of fold of Islam.

The shahadah itself is " La Illaha Il lal Allah."

There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"

Just look at this sentence, first Allah negates the fact that there is NO GOD , and then says But Allah.

The reason is to create emphasis in the sentence.

Also , note , every other religion also believes itself to be true , and not others.

 

[Bewal Express]

na its an assumption. Alot more conversions take place in the shrines that exist in India.

Maybe but if he wasn't effective at his preaching he wouldn't have been banned.

 

[Major]

Brother It is not Zakir Naik , It is Islam itself which says that it is only true religion and rest are false. Every Muslim believes in that , if someone does not , that person is out of fold of Islam.

The shahadah itself is " La Illaha Il lal Allah."

There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"

Just look at this sentence, first Allah negates the fact that there is NO GOD , and then says But Allah.

The reason is to create emphasis in the sentence.

Also , note , every other religion also believes itself to be true , and not others.

Preach this in Canada, and trust me you will find trouble..

You cannot go around claiming your religion is superior and the other persons religion is false. If a hindu or even a jew were to do that, hell would broke loose.

Every religion believe itself to be true, no religion will claim itself to be false. Point is, to co exist, you cant go around calling others as false. If such people cant coexist, they shouldnt be welcomed.

Whatever the faith is or whatever the book has to say, its important to keep it to yourself. Just like a person who is anti muslim, should keep hi thoughts to himself and isnt required to cause problems in society.

At one hand you justify calling other religions as false and on the other hand claim Islamophobia, that makes no sense. This is what spreads Islamophobia.

 

[Major]

Maybe but if he wasn't effective at his preaching he wouldn't have been banned.

He is banned for calling others false in a secular country and causing problems. The shrines are more effective in India and they are not banned.

 

[Major]

This indian fugitive is a lunatic and is part of the core problems related to Muslims.

At one hand we had Edhi sa'ab who sat with orphaned children, gave them a home, had food with them and provided shelter. Than there is this guy who has to bring in the whole na mehraam factor for some weird thoughts of his.

In a country where babies are abandoned and no one wants to adopt, what this guy did was just pure pathetic.

When Edhi was alive, during his whole life, the mullah brigade insulted him and bashed him for taking in orphans

 

[Bewal Express]

He is banned for calling others false in a secular country and causing problems. The shrines are more effective in India and they are not banned.

But the BJP has attacked minorities, called them invaders and they are not banned. I am no fan of the Doc but they were scared off him and his photographic memory and ability to debate these guys.

 

[uppercut]

There is no contradiction in Islam.

Forget about contradictions/inaccuracies for a moment and take a look at this very scientific, archeological, linguistic, geographic and logic based analysis of Islam. Its an hour long video but atleast look at the last part starting at the timestamp linked below ( ~45 minutes ) and you can play it at 1.5x speed to save time. BTW it has nothing to do with the usual approach taken by haters ( i.e. looking at problematic/controversial/erroneous verses )

 

[Justcrazy]

Preach this in Canada, and trust me you will find trouble..

You cannot go around claiming your religion is superior and the other persons religion is false. If a hindu or even a jew were to do that, hell would broke loose.

Every religion believe itself to be true, no religion will claim itself to be false. Point is, to co exist, you cant go around calling others as false. If such people cant coexist, they shouldnt be welcomed.

Whatever the faith is or whatever the book has to say, its important to keep it to yourself. Just like a person who is anti muslim, should keep hi thoughts to himself and isnt required to cause problems in society.

At one hand you justify calling other religions as false and on the other hand claim Islamophobia, that makes no sense. This is what spreads Islamophobia.

I am not preaching anything , I just stated facts.

What a hindu , Muslim or Jew etc does , is not my concern or not the point of debate here. We are talking about religions , and those are in books. Others also have same believe.

Co existing does not mean that we will accept others to be correct. The only way we can do that , is to remove all belief systems from the world.

By claiming that others are false does not mean Islam is saying that others have no right to practice their own faith , they can but as a Muslim this is obligation to preach own faith to others , just in friendly manner . If they want to do own research after that , that is there own will.

If you look into most of lectures of Zakir Naik , you will find he is speaking about similarities between Islam and Other religions. He only speaks against , when someone asks a certain question related to differences.

 

[Major]

I am not preaching anything , I just stated facts.

What a hindu , Muslim or Jew etc does , is not my concern or not the point of debate here. We are talking about religions , and those are in books. Others also have same believe.

Co existing does not mean that we will accept others to be correct. The only way we can do that , is to remove all belief systems from the world.

By claiming that others are false does not mean Islam is saying that others have no right to practice their own faith , they can but as a Muslim this is obligation to preach own faith to others , just in friendly manner . If they want to do own research after that , that is there own will.

If you look into most of lectures of Zakir Naik , you will find he is speaking about similarities between Islam and Other religions. He only speaks against , when someone asks a certain question related to differences.

Religious faith isnt a fact.

Coexisting means you dont go out of your to offend anyone.

Like i said, whatever your faith is keep it to yourself instead going out and calling others false and giving justification for it.

If you want to look down at other peoples religion. Find go ahead, but now while sitting in canada or india, but in a country where you can do whatever you want in the name of religion

 

[Farhan The Man]

Pakistani muslims with UK/NA passports are always having a go at the lowest hanging vegetable: hindus.

They wouldn't dare state "facts" to followers of judeo-christian faiths for the obvious reason of picking fight with bullies who are bigger.

Perhaps fear of deportation back to land of the pure is also too much to bear.

 

[uppercut]

Co existing does not mean that we will accept others to be correct.

I will give you another possibility:

Accept that there could also be possibly correct and respect their views.

Which of those two thought processes is more amenable to a peaceful co-existence between various religions?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You just ended the debate bro

Cos Naik knows the Hindu scriptures.better than most Hindus do.

Fact.

 

[uppercut]

You just ended the debate bro

How many Hindus has he debated ? Can you post some links ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

How many Hindus has he debated ? Can you post some links ?

With Shri Ravi Shankar

And have answered multiple Hindu questioners in live mass sessions

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani muslims with UK/NA passports are always having a go at the lowest hanging vegetable: hindus.

They wouldn't dare state "facts" to followers of judeo-christian faiths for the obvious reason of picking fight with bullies who are bigger.

Perhaps fear of deportation back to land of the pure is also too much to bear.

Welcome new poster!

 

[Major]

You just ended the debate bro

that is hate speech. Again, even an atheist would give better debates on Islam, would you allow anyone to claim that the atheist knows the Quranic scriptures better?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Preach this in Canada, and trust me you will find trouble..

You cannot go around claiming your religion is superior and the other persons religion is false. If a hindu or even a jew were to do that, hell would broke loose.

Every religion believe itself to be true, no religion will claim itself to be false. Point is, to co exist, you cant go around calling others as false. If such people cant coexist, they shouldnt be welcomed.

Whatever the faith is or whatever the book has to say, its important to keep it to yourself. Just like a person who is anti muslim, should keep hi thoughts to himself and isnt required to cause problems in society.

At one hand you justify calling other religions as false and on the other hand claim Islamophobia, that makes no sense. This is what spreads Islamophobia.

I don't buy this argument. Of course an adherent to a religion believes theirs is true and others are false. That's why they follow it. If they claim otherwise they are liars.

Debating religion in a private forum isn't a big deal. If a Hindu doesn't want to see Zakir he can ignore him. He wasn't forcing people at gun point to listen to him.

There are numerous Christian preachers who claim that heaven is only for those who accept Christ. They claim Nabi (saw) is a false Prophet. If I voluntarily listen to them how can I then cry about it after.

Even amongst Hindus they always make the claim that Muslims believe their religion is the only true way we are more accepting. Well there are sects of Hindus that eat human brains and go to graveyards and run ashes of the dead on them. Most Hindus don't accept this. Does this mean they are expressing hatred towards this group? Should they stay quiet and just look to Co exist with them?

Look I'm not a fan of Zakir. I can understand why Hindus may dislike him but I don't buy this thing about calling other religions false as being some sort of a crime.

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistani muslims with UK/NA passports are always having a go at the lowest hanging vegetable: hindus.

They wouldn't dare state "facts" to followers of judeo-christian faiths for the obvious reason of picking fight with bullies who are bigger.

Perhaps fear of deportation back to land of the pure is also too much to bear.

Calling Islam the only true religion doesn't result in deportation in western countries.

It doesn't work that way in that part of the world.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Then why Muslims have to justify their religions everywhere ?

Also , when there is a debate , and you come into it , you have to justify.

No we don't need to justify. Neither we are into a debate. Sanatan isn't proselytising religion. We don't go around convincing anyone to join our religion.

So there is no competition here.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Brother It is not Zakir Naik , It is Islam itself which says that it is only true religion and rest are false. Every Muslim believes in that , if someone does not , that person is out of fold of Islam.

The shahadah itself is " La Illaha Il lal Allah."

There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"

Just look at this sentence, first Allah negates the fact that there is NO GOD , and then says But Allah.

The reason is to create emphasis in the sentence.

Also , note , every other religion also believes itself to be true , and not others.

That's the belief of Muslims. Not others.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You just ended the debate bro

You would like to believe that. No?

Zakir Naik isn't a Hindu. His views on Sanatan has no value.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Ok perfectly fine. I don't argue that but what about his quoting of your scripture and the ensuing mass conversions.

You would like to believe that. No?

Zakir Naik isn't a Hindu. His views on Sanatan has no value.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What's extremist about exposing( their contradictions) and debating other religions. You wudhu broke when more and more people found his message resonating with them.

His views on Sanatan doesn't resonate with anyone.

He preaches extremism and that's why he has been banned from multiple countries.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ok perfectly fine. I don't argue that but what about his quoting of your scripture and the ensuing mass conversions.

What mass conversion?

He says xyz and then says its from some scripture.

The interpretation of scriptures of Sanatan is by Shankaracharyas or for the religious guru of each sect.

Zakir Naiks interpretation isn't the official interpretation of our scriptures.

Secondly Sanskrit words have multiple meanings and have to be seen in a context.

Interpretation Sanatan scriptures also has philosophical meanings.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What mass conversion?

He says xyz and then says its from some scripture.

The interpretation of scriptures of Sanatan is by Shankaracharyas or for the religious guru of each sect.

Zakir Naiks interpretation isn't the official interpretation of our scriptures.

There are plethora of Hindus conversion video on YouTube.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There are plethora of Hindus conversion video on YouTube.

Propoganda videos.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There are plethora of Hindus conversion video on YouTube.

If Zakir Naik was able to convert Hindus like that, there would be millions of his followers.

He is a propoganda and media creation.

 

[Stewie]

I can easily contradict many of Islam's teaching. But when I did that @Stewie said that I am insulting Islam.

Maybe link me to where what you said what and then what I said. You guys post here more than Pakistanis do so I am not sure to what you are referring.

 

[Justcrazy]

That's the belief of Muslims. Not others.

Yes , that is what I also wrote .

 

[Justcrazy]

No we don't need to justify. Neither we are into a debate. Sanatan isn't proselytising religion. We don't go around convincing anyone to join our religion.

So there is no competition here.

You have full right to do so , if you can . Nothing wrong in propagating what is truth according to you till it does not harm others.

 

[Justcrazy]

I will give you another possibility:

Accept that there could also be possibly correct and respect their views.

Which of those two thought processes is more amenable to a peaceful co-existence between various religions?

Correct ? Brother religion is based on scriptures , apart from Islam , if someone can prove me their scripture is in untampered form , with chain of narrations I will believe that.

As I said I am open to accept , if correct evidence is provided.

Islam is NOT against co existence , people have right to follow own religion , but I have right to present my case. Job of a Muslim is only to give the message to others , and clear misconceptions about Islam. No one can or should force someone to be a Muslim.

 

[Justcrazy]

Religious faith isnt a fact.

Coexisting means you dont go out of your to offend anyone.

Like i said, whatever your faith is keep it to yourself instead going out and calling others false and giving justification for it.

If you want to look down at other peoples religion. Find go ahead, but now while sitting in canada or india, but in a country where you can do whatever you want in the name of religion

If I believe myself to be true , it makes others false by default.

For a Christian his doctrine is correct , Islam , Hinduism ,Buddhism etc are false.

2 +2 can only be four , it cannot be 6 or 5 .