[VIDEOS] Why Indian Hindus hate Zakir Naik so profoundly?

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Same reason he was banned in UK. Find out and things will be clear

I was talking about the UK. Don't you think you should at least know what he was banned for if you are going to keep bringing it up to show how dangerous he is?

 

[Stewie]

@Stewie : Such are the lovely words by Dr. Zakir Naik that the mods are not deeming them fit to grace the very thread about him.

He does have a lot of flawed views, no doubt. He also has a lot of valid and intelligent arguments. I appreciate the good and scoff at the bad just like any other.

It’s important to not see things in black and white.

 

[Local.Dada]

I was talking about the UK. Don't you think you should at least know what he was banned for if you are going to keep bringing it up to show how dangerous he is?

Why should I bother? It seems more of a touchy issue to you: I see this guy as toxic for both Muslims and Non-Muslims and glad he is banned so I am not interested to know the details. My opinion on this is good riddance. Your options are getting your hands on the British intelligence report, common sense and internet connection. Hope that helps.

 

[Justcrazy]

False. Don't give opinion on things you have no idea about.

Vedas mention both Sagun and Nirgun forms..

From what I read I found that . I personally asked one Arya samaj person , and he told me that Swami Dayanad saraswati condemned Idol worship because of this reason and he rejected Puranas.

If you have evidence , kindly provide , I will show him this and prove Mr Dayanad Saraswati wrong on this issue.

 

[Justcrazy]

Why should I bother? It seems more of a touchy issue to you: I see this guy as toxic for both Muslims and Non-Muslims and glad he is banned so I am not interested to know the details. My opinion on this is good riddance. Your options are getting your hands on the British intelligence report, common sense and internet connection. Hope that helps.

Can you share what toxicity you heard from him ?

 

[Stewie]

Can you share what toxicity you heard from him ?

Probably when he refused idol worshipping.

Hindus here seem to take that pretty harshly.

 

[Local.Dada]

Probably when he refused idol worshipping.

Hindus here seem to take that pretty harshly.

Or maybe you liked that part and missed the part he justifies terrorism and other crap, clips of which are available all over the internet etc. If someone is watching Zakir Naik to learn about anything leave alone Hinduism then the joke is on them lol.

Is it just me or there is a pattern with you getting antsy and defending illimunaries like Osama, Zakir Naik, Hezbollah, etc etc etc and your crutch seems to be a constant but.. but… Moody, RSS etc. That obviously comes from a lack of world view and depth. There is a reason you hear stories that so and so IIT engineer became an isis terrorist etc I guess.

 

[Local.Dada]

Can you share what toxicity you heard from him ?

In a secular country if you are selling your religion by putting down other religion it is an issue. People can think I am touchy because he makes provocative statements on Hindus but the fact is churches and other minority groups have had issues with him.

Also I know the guy above will regurgitate the same thing and don’t even thinks he reads posts leave alone books but you realize he is not banned because of my personal point of view or by Modi/BJP etc right?

His lectures were used for isis recruitments and caused chaos in Bangladesh, Srilanka and also UK. That’s why he was banned.

Not sure why his fans on here are hodling India and Indians accountable.

 

[Stewie]

Or maybe you liked that part and missed the part he justifies terrorism and other crap, clips of which are available all over the internet etc. If someone is watching Zakir Naik to learn about anything leave alone Hinduism then the joke is on them lol.

Is it just me or there is a pattern with you getting antsy and defending illimunaries like Osama, Zakir Naik, Hezbollah, etc etc etc and your crutch seems to be a constant but.. but… Moody, RSS etc. That obviously comes from a lack of world view and depth. There is a reason you hear stories that so and so IIT engineer became an isis terrorist etc I guess.

Is it just me or do you attempt your poor amateurish psychoanalysis on everyone?

I have defended Osama? When? When he was fighting for the Americans in the Afghan war, maybe. I have never defended terrorism. I give a historical context to the best of my ability. I would really like to see if you can furnish any evidence where I defended terrorism. I always say the world is not black and white which you Hindus are adamant to believe. Then you blame us for pointing out to Modi Godi and blah blah.

 

[Stewie]

It is interesting to note here that the same people who criticize Zakir Naik and accuse him or supporting terrorism, even though he has no position or power and affiliation with any terror organization or holds any position of authority in India....... turn around and vehemently support the Butcher of Gujarat who has been known to be involved in allowing a genocidal act of Musims of India.

They love to point out Zakir Naik was banned but they conveniently ignore their godd Modi also was banned from certain countries due to his involvement as a man in a position of power in Gujarat when Muslims were killed.

But of course, why would they like to bring that up?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

But of course, why would they like to bring that up?

This would turn the tables on them and they won't love it.

 

[Local.Dada]

This would turn the tables on them and they won't love it.

Modi just last month visited Delaware and met US President Biden in his home constituency and got a state level reception, last time he visited, he addressed the Us parliament and before that there was the whole Howdy Modi event in Texas. What am I supposed to complain about here ?

He had state level reception in UK etc too. Last time I checked he isn’t banned anywhere including Pakistan. In fact imagine Shahbaz getting a call from Modi, that will make his day. That’s a fact not a taunt.

For people who like Islamic touch- highest honors of multiple Arab countries.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Modi just last month visited Delaware and met US President Biden in his home constituency and got a state level reception, last time he visited, he addressed the Us parliament and before that there was the whole Howdy Modi event in Texas. What am I supposed to complain about here ?

He had state level reception in UK etc too. Last time I checked he isn’t banned anywhere including Pakistan. In fact imagine Shahbaz getting a call from Modi, that will make his day. That’s a fact not a taunt.

For people who like Islamic touch- highest honors of multiple Arab countries.

Netanyahu still gets a much much bigger welcome by US, does that make him any big leader??

 

[Local.Dada]

Netanyahu still gets a much much bigger welcome by US, does that make him any big leader??

Why would I care about Netanhayu? If you think he is insignificant I won’t argue: not my problem. That’s your understanding. You were talking about Modi being banned back in the day to visit USA. There is one thing to be stuck in the past but it’s totally a different level of approach to not pay attention to the last 3-4 visits of Modi especially if someone claims they live in America. Not to mention the multiple visits made by American presidents to India.

Also he was banned during Obama’s time and the ban lifted during Obama’s time too.

 

[Stewie]

Modi just last month visited Delaware and met US President Biden in his home constituency and got a state level reception, last time he visited, he addressed the Us parliament and before that there was the whole Howdy Modi event in Texas. What am I supposed to complain about here ?

He had state level reception in UK etc too. Last time I checked he isn’t banned anywhere including Pakistan. In fact imagine Shahbaz getting a call from Modi, that will make his day. That’s a fact not a taunt.

For people who like Islamic touch- highest honors of multiple Arab countries.

Because now he is the PM of India. It is now a diplomatic immunity thing. You think if they won’t open their doors for Zakir Naik if he was in a similar position of power? That’s exactly what I said in my last post. He never was/is/has been in any such position and yet you lot love to criticize him but somehow chaiwalla is beyond reproach? If hypocrisy had a face!

 

[Local.Dada]

Because now he is the PM of India. It is now a diplomatic immunity thing. You think if they won’t open their doors for Zakir Naik if he was in a similar position of power? That’s exactly what I said in my last post. He never was/is/has been in any such position and yet you lot love to criticize him but somehow chaiwalla is beyond reproach? If hypocrisy had a face!

modi was a career politician when he was banned or not. Zakir Naik is a religious preacher. The only reason you are even drawing this equivalence is because you don’t have the depth to think of anything else. Also the fact you think calling someone “chaiwala” is an insult especially when they made it to the top leval says a lot about you. Chaiwala to PM is a better story than World Cup winning captain to “Ghadi chor” for what it’s worth.

 

[Stewie]

modi was a career politician when he was banned or not. Zakir Naik is a religious preacher. The only reason you are even drawing this equivalence is because you don’t have the depth to think of anything else. Also the fact you think calling someone “chaiwala” is an insult especially when they made it to the top leval says a lot about you. Chaiwala to PM is a better story than World Cup winning captain to “Ghadi chor” for what it’s worth.

Now who is getting their undies twisted ?

 

[Local.Dada]

Now who is getting their undies twisted ?

You probably did due to the ghadi chor comment and the part edited out by mod

 

[Stewie]

You probably did due to the ghadi chor comment and the part edited out by mod

I’ll take a ghadi chor Oxford grad over a chaiwalla turned murderer any day by the way. So why would I be upset over it. By the way still waiting for you to share with us when I defended terrorism or Bin Laden. Unless you are one of those ghanti baja ker bhaagne wala.

 

[HalBass9]

Whenever Modi’s name is mentioned, the Hindutva brigade finds itself compelled to defend his record of bigotry and anti-Muslim rhetoric.

Numerous Western media outlets have highlighted his divisive stance and will likely continue to do so, even after his time has passed.

One can’t help but feel sympathy for those who must carry the weight of Hindutva’s legacy.

 

[Local.Dada]

I’ll take a ghadi chor Oxford grad over a chaiwalla turned murderer any day by the way. So why would I be upset over it. By the way still waiting for you to share with us when I defended terrorism or Bin Laden. Unless you are one of those ghanti baja ker bhaagne wala.

I don’t have the patience to search for that but let’s give this a test right now- Laden or Modi? Pick one/ who is the better person according to you?

 

[Stewie]

I don’t have the patience to search for that but let’s give this a test right now- Laden or Modi? Pick one/ who is the better person according to you?

Neither. Both equally evil. One got what he deserved and let’s hope the other one will as well, either here or in the afterlife.

 

[Stewie]

But since you wanted to do the morality test here, let me turn this around and ask you you feel proud of having a PM who has been complicit in the killing of your own countrymen?i hope you won’t run away after ringing this bell like you usually do.

 

[Local.Dada]

But since you wanted to do the morality test here, let me turn this around and ask you you feel proud of having a PM who has been complicit in the killing of your own countrymen?i hope you won’t run away after ringing this bell like you usually do.

Communal riots have happened and some way worse where a lot more Muslims (and Hindus) died. 1992 post Babri Masjid riots in Mumbai was in my lifetime and I saw it first hand. There was a Congress govt then. There were way worse riots in Gujarat, Bengal, Kerala and other parts of India multiple times since 1947. By your logic all of those respective CM’s and PM’s of India are equal to Laden.

Have you ever considered what happens in Pakistan with minorities?

I wonder what that makes of Pakistan administrators.

 

[Local.Dada]

The fact that you keep attacking Modi in a thread about Zakir Naik shows you are triggered by his ban. Otherwise Modi has no business in this thread. Had you found an equivalent banned Hindu religious preacher that would have been different. This is what I said that when something goes against a narrative you don’t like the crutch seems to be the same old Hindutva/ BJP/RSS rhetoric.

 

[Stewie]

And as expected here it comes, the word salad from the local ghanti maar.

Muslims are expected to disavow bin Laden and such evils, which we should quite honestly but when Hindus are expected to be held to the same standards of decency, they tuck tail and run, provide the OJ Simpson glove defense, etc, etc. the Chewbacca defense!

But you are right. This is not the thread for modi or bin Laden. For the record I didn’t drag him into it. I just commented when someone else did. But regardless I have no intention to discuss anything with a Hindu extremist defender of a murderer. Peace out..

 

[Rajdeep]

But since you wanted to do the morality test here, let me turn this around and ask you you feel proud of having a PM who has been complicit in the killing of your own countrymen?i hope you won’t run away after ringing this bell like you usually do.

1. We are very proud of our PM and that is why people of India have elected him 3 times as their supremo.

2. Modi has not been complicit of killing any of its countrymen. Supreme Court appointed SIT has given him clean chit for 2002.

3. Gujarat riots started when fanatical Islamists burned down a train full of Hindu Pilgrimage's in Godhra. If these fanatical Islamists try this again in future, they will be killed again, with or without Modi. India has 80% Hindus, remember?

4. Modi was banned from entry in US & UK when there was an impending case on him in India. After he became PM, same western world gave him red carpet welcome. Just check what Donald Trump had to say about him in another thread I have created.

5. Pakistanis are simply jealous bcoz they couldnt produce a world leader half of his calibre. The guy they thought as their messiah ran away from No confidence motion vote and now languishing in jail.

#FACTS

 

[Stewie]

Yet another example of blind hindu extremism. You guys are doing a wonderful job of exposing yourselves. Keep it up. And you grumble when Muslims praise zakir naik. Just wow!

 

[rpant_gabba]

The guy they thought as their messiah ran away from No confidence motion vote and now languishing in jail.

#FACTS

Mic drop right there.

 

[cricketjoshila]

From what I read I found that . I personally asked one Arya samaj person , and he told me that Swami Dayanad saraswati condemned Idol worship because of this reason and he rejected Puranas.

If you have evidence , kindly provide , I will show him this and prove Mr Dayanad Saraswati wrong on this issue.

What evidence?

Rig Veda Samhita itself mentions numerous gods.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yet another example of blind hindu extremism. You guys are doing a wonderful job of exposing yourselves. Keep it up. And you grumble when Muslims praise zakir naik. Just wow!

Worry about Muslims. The world is worried about the terrorist attacks by Muslims around the world.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Whenever Modi’s name is mentioned, the Hindutva brigade finds itself compelled to defend his record of bigotry and anti-Muslim rhetoric.

Numerous Western media outlets have highlighted his divisive stance and will likely continue to do so, even after his time has passed.

One can’t help but feel sympathy for those who must carry the weight of Hindutva’s legacy.

Modi is answerable to Indians not western media outlets, who credibility is being questioned by the west itself.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Netanyahu still gets a much much bigger welcome by US, does that make him any big leader??

Netanyahu is very big leader. He has more influence in the west than most NATO members.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why should I bother? It seems more of a touchy issue to you: I see this guy as toxic for both Muslims and Non-Muslims and glad he is banned so I am not interested to know the details. My opinion on this is good riddance. Your options are getting your hands on the British intelligence report, common sense and internet connection. Hope that helps.

I don't know - why do you bother? It is you that keeps bringing up that he has been banned in the UK, but when asked for the reasons he was banned, you seem clueless. No point in asking me for the reasons since I was not the one repeatedly bringing it up.

 

[Technics 1210]

I don't know - why do you bother? It is you that keeps bringing up that he has been banned in the UK, but when asked for the reasons he was banned, you seem clueless. No point in asking me for the reasons since I was not the one repeatedly bringing it up.

Intellectual independence is not in the Indian psyche.

Indians who relinquish their Indian citizenship for a better life in the West seem to believe that their mindset changes with it too. Clearly never the case which is why when questioned, you hit a brick wall.

You will get much more sense and thought provoking responses from British born Indians.

 

[Stewie]

I don't know - why do you bother? It is you that keeps bringing up that he has been banned in the UK, but when asked for the reasons he was banned, you seem clueless. No point in asking me for the reasons since I was not the one repeatedly bringing it up.

Zakir Naik is a toxic issue for both Hindus and Muslims so we should all chuck him in jail or something. But we should all hug Chai selling butcher of Gunarat since he is such an angel.

Hindutva entitlement right there

 

[Local.Dada]

Intellectual independence is not in the Indian psyche.

Indians who relinquish their Indian citizenship for a better life in the West seem to believe that their mindset changes with it too. Clearly never the case which is why when questioned, you hit a brick wall.

You will get much more sense and thought provoking responses from British born Indians.

what about the intellectual depth of British Pakistanis as displayed on this thread .

Basically Zakir groupies argument looks like this

Zakir is good but we don’t agree with everything he says- Zakir the “Islamic scholar” vs some random Bradford champ.

However everything Zakir says about Hinduism is absolutely 100% correct because even though as a scholar his Islamic knowledge has flaws but he is super expert on Hinduism.

The fact that his materials and speeches were used for isis recruitments and hence he was banned. Thats a documented fact everyone points out but still so much squirming, willful blindness and denial is amusing.

On top of that, easiest thing would be to say look this Hindu preacher also got banned etc too with a google search but for some strange reason there seems more enthusiasm to look at pictures of gays form India than actually have a more constructive argument.

I rest my case.

 

[Technics 1210]

what about the intellectual depth of British Pakistanis as displayed on this thread .

You have no depth, which is why you have to drag the word Pakistan into your responses.

You have proved my point.

 

[Stewie]

Dr. Naik, like him or not, seems to be bane of their existence if you go by Hindutva brigade here. He doesn’t even live in India but they seem to have a lot of repressed rage against him. He seems to have pushed quite a few buttons.

 

[Major]

After the many stupid statements made by him, he is now hated by Pakistanis. So i guess that answers the thread, why he is hated.

He makes stupid and retarded statements

 

[HalBass9]

Modi is answerable to Indians not western media outlets, who credibility is being questioned by the west itself.

Nice!

 

[Stewie]

After the many stupid statements made by him, he is now hated by Pakistanis. So i guess that answers the thread, why he is hated.

He makes stupid and retarded statements

This shows Pakistanis are still more enlightened and moderate than Indian Hindus who don't seem to accept the naked truths staring them in their face.

 

[guard]

Because Islam, they make no bones about it. Read any post here or any other forum, they are vehemently Islamophobic

 

[Justcrazy]

What evidence?

Rig Veda Samhita itself mentions numerous gods.

Brother , we not talking about multiple Gods. We are talking about idol worship , Arya Samaj do not worship idols.

Do you consider them as Hindus?

Secondly , they claim that Vedas are supreme authority , it is called shruti , and according to Vedas idol worship is not allowed.

 

[Justcrazy]

In a secular country if you are selling your religion by putting down other religion it is an issue. People can think I am touchy because he makes provocative statements on Hindus but the fact is churches and other minority groups have had issues with him.

Also I know the guy above will regurgitate the same thing and don’t even thinks he reads posts leave alone books but you realize he is not banned because of my personal point of view or by Modi/BJP etc right?

His lectures were used for isis recruitments and caused chaos in Bangladesh, Srilanka and also UK. That’s why he was banned.

Not sure why his fans on here are hodling India and Indians accountable.

Even if I agree with you , Question I asked still remains. My question was simple. You said his lectures are toxic. You must have heard him saying toxic things. I would like to hear them , so can you show me those.

OR

You can say that I have not heard him say , but because the media is saying or certain Pro Hindu or Anti Islam Government are saying , that is why I accept that.

It can be either of these two things , there is no third option.

So which one is true?

 

[Justcrazy]

what about the intellectual depth of British Pakistanis as displayed on this thread .

Basically Zakir groupies argument looks like this

Zakir is good but we don’t agree with everything he says- Zakir the “Islamic scholar” vs some random Bradford champ.

However everything Zakir says about Hinduism is absolutely 100% correct because even though as a scholar his Islamic knowledge has flaws but he is super expert on Hinduism.

The fact that his materials and speeches were used for isis recruitments and hence he was banned. Thats a documented fact everyone points out but still so much squirming, willful blindness and denial is amusing.

On top of that, easiest thing would be to say look this Hindu preacher also got banned etc too with a google search but for some strange reason there seems more enthusiasm to look at pictures of gays form India than actually have a more constructive argument.

I rest my case.

No , anyone who claims that Zakir Naik is 100 % correct about Islam or other religions , is wrong. He is a student of comparative religion. He like any of us can be wrong.

In this very forum , I think in the matter of Yazeed , I showed Dr Naik view is wrong. And for that I presented evidence from hadeeth.

When we say a person is wrong on certain thing , we need to back up with evidence , not personal opinions or hearsay.

Otherwise what is the point in have discussions here?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Modi just last month visited Delaware and met US President Biden in his home constituency and got a state level reception, last time he visited, he addressed the Us parliament and before that there was the whole Howdy Modi event in Texas. What am I supposed to complain about here ?

He had state level reception in UK etc too. Last time I checked he isn’t banned anywhere including Pakistan. In fact imagine Shahbaz getting a call from Modi, that will make his day. That’s a fact not a taunt.

For people who like Islamic touch- highest honors of multiple Arab countries.

So I guess in a hypothetical scenario if Zakir was to become PM of India and all the bans reversed then all would be well.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

After the many stupid statements made by him, he is now hated by Pakistanis. So i guess that answers the thread, why he is hated.

He makes stupid and retarded statements

I'm glad Pakistanis hate him now.

He is enjoyable to listen to sometimes because of his circus theatrical style of display.

But I'm aware some people (and their kids) listen to him 24/7 and see him as some sort of fountain of knowledge.

The more I got older the more I realised the stupidity of his answers.

 

[Local.Dada]

No , anyone who claims that Zakir Naik is 100 % correct about Islam or other religions , is wrong. He is a student of comparative religion. He like any of us can be wrong.

In this very forum , I think in the matter of Yazeed , I showed Dr Naik view is wrong. And for that I presented evidence from hadeeth.

When we say a person is wrong on certain thing , we need to back up with evidence , not personal opinions or hearsay.

Otherwise what is the point in have discussions here?

Dude look, since you are one of the more sensible ones here, let me clarify one thing- dislike for Zakir Naik doesn’t really translate to dislike for Muslims.

He has extreme views and for the nth time, the case against him in India was financial irregularities not preaching.

The case against him in SL, UK, Bangladesh etc is that his materials from speeches etc were used for ISIS recruitment etc. why are people repeating the same thing again and again and holding Indians accountable.

I have seen clips of his views online even in his recent Pak visit. I can absolutely say I don’t agree with those views. I don’t have time or the interest to go through all his lectures.

If you are a fan good for you. Give him Pakistan citizenship and let him lose; let’s see how that will work out.

Again if you think criticism of Naik is criticism of Islam then I have nothing further to add.

This reminds me of the time I was called a islamophobe for pointing out Taliban will be bad news for Afghanis and even Pakistan. They took it personally that I was jealous of Islamic Taliban but we know how things have turned out.

I don’t get why people take it personal as an attack on religion.

 

[Local.Dada]

So I guess in a hypothetical scenario if Zakir was to become PM of India and all the bans reversed then all would be well.

Sure. He is banned in India and right now he is in Pakistan. So sure make him your leader and vote for him.we will think about letting him in. I am sure USA, China, Russia will
Be super stoked to negotiate with him too.

Also how are you missing the simple logic that Modi was a career politician. Even if he was banned or not banned, his profession was a politician so end goal was to be in a position of administrative power.

How is it same equivalence for a guy who is a religious preacher? Can I understand that logic first?

 

[Justcrazy]

Dude look, since you are one of the more sensible ones here, let me clarify one thing- dislike for Zakir Naik doesn’t really translate to dislike for Muslims.

He has extreme views and for the nth time, the case against him in India was financial irregularities not preaching.

The case against him in SL, UK, Bangladesh etc is that his materials from speeches etc were used for ISIS recruitment etc. why are people repeating the same thing again and again and holding Indians accountable.

I have seen clips of his views online even in his recent Pak visit. I can absolutely say I don’t agree with those views. I don’t have time or the interest to go through all his lectures.

If you are a fan good for you. Give him Pakistan citizenship and let him lose; let’s see how that will work out.

Again if you think criticism of Naik is criticism of Islam then I have nothing further to add.

This reminds me of the time I was called a islamophobe for pointing out Taliban will be bad news for Afghanis and even Pakistan. They took it personally that I was jealous of Islamic Taliban but we know how things have turned out.

I don’t get why people take it personal as an attack on religion.

So you want to say you have heard his speeches , and found them inciting hatred, but you cannot show me here ?

This is what you want to say in a nutshell?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Sure.He is banned in India and right now he is in Pakistan. So sure make him your leader and vote for him.we will think about letting him in. I am sure USA, China, Russia will
Be super stoked to negotiate with him too.

Also how are you missing the simple logic that Modi was a career politician. Even if he was banned or not banned, his profession was a politician so end goal was to be in a position of administrative power.

How is it same equivalence for a guy who is a religious preacher? Can I understand that logic first?

So if someone is a career politician their bans can be forgiven by you should they be upturned in the future?

I just want to understand at what point you will be happy with Zakir because you haven't given reasons for why you dislike him apart from that he is banned.

If the ban is turned will you then think he is no longer toxic?

 

[Local.Dada]

So if someone is a career politician their bans can be forgiven by you should they be upturned in the future?

I just want to understand at what point you will be happy with Zakir because you haven't given reasons for why you dislike him apart from that he is banned.

If the ban is turned will you then think he is no longer toxic?

Let’s step back a bit.Zakir Naik was firstly not banned in India for preaching. Are you guys even reading the previous posts? He has a case on him for financial irregularities and laundering.

He was banned for controversial speeches in Uk and other countries.

unless you live under a rock it is not difficult to figure out how these 2 things tie up. Controversial speeches + funding form shady sources.

Also he was not thrown out of country, he is a”fugitive”. Which means he is absconding. We would like to have him back and let the law take its course.

Some of you keep picking one thing from here and there and go in circles here.

I don’t think you are a super fan of Zakir either and that’s exactly why I don’t like him either and on top of that a fugitive. What is there to like?

By the same account since you are fulfilling the quota of taking Modi’s name for the day- well he is a democratically elected leader of India. The voters didn’t give a f if he is banned by us or not: it didn’t matter: people believed in him and more or less he delivered a lot to his voters.

Every question you have been asking has been covered on here. Ask me a new one or we are done here.

 

[HalBass9]

Let’s step back a bit.Zakir Naik was firstly not banned in India for preaching. Are you guys even reading the previous posts? He has a case on him for financial irregularities and laundering.

He was banned for controversial speeches in Uk and other countries.

unless you live under a rock it is not difficult to figure out how these 2 things tie up. Controversial speeches + funding form shady sources.

Also he was not thrown out of country, he is a”fugitive”. Which means he is absconding. We would like to have him back and let the law take its course.

Some of you keep picking one thing from here and there and go in circles here.

I don’t think you are a super fan of Zakir either and that’s exactly why I don’t like him either and on top of that a fugitive. What is there to like?

By the same account since you are fulfilling the quota of taking Modi’s name for the day- well he is a democratically elected leader of India. The voters didn’t give a f if he is banned by us or not: it didn’t matter: people believed in him and more or less he delivered a lot to his voters.

Every question you have been asking has been covered on here. Ask me a new one or we are done here.

lol, why are you so unique?

Of course Indians don’t give a crap about what Modi did and didn’t do, that is why he is the PM of India.

 

[HalBass9]

So if someone is a career politician their bans can be forgiven by you should they be upturned in the future?

I just want to understand at what point you will be happy with Zakir because you haven't given reasons for why you dislike him apart from that he is banned.

If the ban is turned will you then think he is no longer toxic?

His sins were forgiven because people of India elected him.

 

[Josh]

How is any sane person going to love him when he gives statements like these

https://twitter.com/x/status/1844655086955540865

 

[deltexas]

So you want to say you have heard his speeches , and found them inciting hatred, but you cannot show me here ?

This is what you want to say in a nutshell?

So an fyi. There's plenty of material available online about zakir. But it's not being allowed to be posted over here. So dont keep harping and keep on asking why dont you post it etc . Its not allowed here is the simple answer.

 

[Justcrazy]

So an fyi. There's plenty of material available online about zakir. But it's not being allowed to be posted over here. So dont keep harping and keep on asking why dont you post it etc . Its not allowed here is the simple answer.

No need to post link , but you can mention the lecture , unless you give something how can we agree or disagree with that?

Without anything , all those arguments are futile

 

[deltexas]

No need to post link , but you can mention the lecture , unless you give something how can we agree or disagree with that?

Without anything , all those arguments are futile

Well i mentioned , but it was removed. So dont keep asking for it.

 

[Justcrazy]

Well i mentioned , but it was removed. So dont keep asking for it.

So in the end the point is , everyone has opinion against Zakir Naik , that he is promoting violence , but no evidence can be shown here , so it remains ambiguous. Good.

 

[deltexas]

So in the end the point is , everyone has opinion against Zakir Naik , that he is promoting violence , but no evidence can be shown here , so it remains ambiguous. Good.

Get permission from the mods, and it will be posted. You cant post if its being removed even though these are public videos available on youtube. Make of that what you will. And yeah , you can be in your happy sphere gloating about him.

 

[Justcrazy]

Get permission from the mods, and it will be posted. You cant post if its being removed even though these are public videos available on youtube. Make of that what you will. And yeah , you can be in your happy sphere gloating about him.

You cannot even mention any lecture ? His lectures are freely available online.

 

[deltexas]

You cannot even mention any lecture ? His lectures are freely available online.

Yup, thats what I was running into. So dont blame me for not posting !

 

[Hitman]

Such a good hearted man Zardari is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1844645097876410503

 

[deltexas]

Such a good hearted man Zardari is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1844645097876410503

Such cringe

 

[Technics 1210]

Hahahaha. Indians caught fabricating evidence yet again. Bold claims backed by nothing but bluff and bluster.

Some things will never change.

 

[deltexas]

Hahahaha. Indians caught fabricating evidence yet again. Bold claims backed by nothing but bluff and bluster.

Some things will never change.

Hahaha. If you are not allowed to post them dont falsely state fabrication bluff bluster..

 

[Farhan The Man]

After the many stupid statements made by him, he is now hated by Pakistanis. So i guess that answers the thread, why he is hated.

He makes stupid and retarded statements

Yup. this is IT. Bullseye.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Pakistan’s hospitality 'more warm than expected': Dr Zakir Naik​

Prominent Islamic scholar Dr Zakir Naik has praised Pakistan for its exceptional hospitality during his recent visit, expressing gratitude to the Pakistani government and people

He also called for unity among Muslims, stressing the importance of setting aside differences to work towards shared goals.

In a statement at the conclusion of his visit, Naik thanked Pakistani authorities for their warm reception, describing the arrangements made by the Ministry of Religious Affairs and the Federal Minister Chaudhry Salik Hussain as “more warm than expected.”

This visit marks Dr Naik’s first official trip to Pakistan, with his previous visit being a private trip in 1991.

“The love and welcome I experienced here is unmatched,” he said, adding that “Pakistan is unique as a country founded in the name of Islam.” Naik highlighted the need for closer relationships between scholars and political leaders to foster unity and development.

Naik’s message centred on unity within the Muslim community, as he urged leaders to embrace the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah, working together to address global challenges.

He also expressed appreciation for Pakistan’s commitment to religious harmony and peace, both nationally and on the international stage.

Emphasising Islam’s values of peace and brotherhood, Naik reiterated that his mission is to promote the true message of Islam and that the unity of the Muslim community is essential for progress.

Christian girl embraces Islam under Dr Zakir Naik's guidance

In Faisalabad, a Christian girl named Samreen publicly embraced Islam during a lecture by renowned speaker Dr. Zakir Naik. The event drew a large audience, where Samreen expressed her desire to convert.

When she took the microphone, Dr. Naik asked her name, to which she replied, "Samreen." He then inquired whether she believed Jesus Christ was a prophet or the son of God. Samreen affirmed that she considered Jesus to be a prophet.

Dr. Naik continued by asking if she believed that Muhammad was the final messenger of Allah, to which she responded affirmatively. He then sought to clarify that she was converting to Islam of her own free will, without any coercion. Samreen assured him that she was indeed embracing the faith willingly and with full awareness.

When Dr Naik asked about her motivation for converting, Samreen revealed that she had been inspired by the Muslims around her, which sparked her desire to join the Islamic faith.

After confirming her intentions, Dr Zakir Naik led her in reciting the Shahada. The venue erupted in joyous shouts of "Allahu Akbar," celebrating her entry into Islam.

Source: The Express Tribune

 

[Stewie]

Pakistan’s hospitality 'more warm than expected': Dr Zakir Naik​

Prominent Islamic scholar Dr Zakir Naik has praised Pakistan for its exceptional hospitality during his recent visit, expressing gratitude to the Pakistani government and people

He also called for unity among Muslims, stressing the importance of setting aside differences to work towards shared goals.

In a statement at the conclusion of his visit, Naik thanked Pakistani authorities for their warm reception, describing the arrangements made by the Ministry of Religious Affairs and the Federal Minister Chaudhry Salik Hussain as “more warm than expected.”

This visit marks Dr Naik’s first official trip to Pakistan, with his previous visit being a private trip in 1991.

“The love and welcome I experienced here is unmatched,” he said, adding that “Pakistan is unique as a country founded in the name of Islam.” Naik highlighted the need for closer relationships between scholars and political leaders to foster unity and development.

Naik’s message centred on unity within the Muslim community, as he urged leaders to embrace the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah, working together to address global challenges.

He also expressed appreciation for Pakistan’s commitment to religious harmony and peace, both nationally and on the international stage.

Emphasising Islam’s values of peace and brotherhood, Naik reiterated that his mission is to promote the true message of Islam and that the unity of the Muslim community is essential for progress.

Christian girl embraces Islam under Dr Zakir Naik's guidance

In Faisalabad, a Christian girl named Samreen publicly embraced Islam during a lecture by renowned speaker Dr. Zakir Naik. The event drew a large audience, where Samreen expressed her desire to convert.

When she took the microphone, Dr. Naik asked her name, to which she replied, "Samreen." He then inquired whether she believed Jesus Christ was a prophet or the son of God. Samreen affirmed that she considered Jesus to be a prophet.

Dr. Naik continued by asking if she believed that Muhammad was the final messenger of Allah, to which she responded affirmatively. He then sought to clarify that she was converting to Islam of her own free will, without any coercion. Samreen assured him that she was indeed embracing the faith willingly and with full awareness.

When Dr Naik asked about her motivation for converting, Samreen revealed that she had been inspired by the Muslims around her, which sparked her desire to join the Islamic faith.

After confirming her intentions, Dr Zakir Naik led her in reciting the Shahada. The venue erupted in joyous shouts of "Allahu Akbar," celebrating her entry into Islam.

Source: The Express Tribune

I am taking bets on how many times this post gets quoted by Hindustva brigade on here..

Place your bets here.. place your bets here.