[VIDEOS] Why is Yasir Shah being persisted with?

[BoomBoomCricket]

Hard to bench someone with his record.

 

[shamaan]

His economy has been rubbish as well. So not only will playing Yasir give the opposition an advantage but also relief as well.



I'd be inclined to at least try one of these options. Why take a non performing player for the sake of it?

His economy against Australia was rubbish but which bowler economy was great bar shaheen.

England ain't the best batting team going bar stokes they all slow.


But the thing is if they did and 1 of them flopped they wont proberly get a chance for the next 2 years or so

 

[shamaan]

Hard to bench someone with his record.

I reakon his last chance will be against england hes already been demoted from the central contract

 

[shamaan]

Yasir Shah has lost it completely. He showed good promise for a while but simply faded away.

Hes got 1 more series if he flops then pakistan should consider injecting new spinners in the squad but atm il stay wiz yasir for england series

 

[Kroll]

His economy against Australia was rubbish but which bowler economy was great bar shaheen.

England ain't the best batting team going bar stokes they all slow.


But the thing is if they did and 1 of them flopped they wont proberly get a chance for the next 2 years or so

Wasn't just referring to Australia, besides guys like Musa in that series were rookies. Yasir is an experienced bowler but has been poor for some time now.

I don't think he will be that threatening to the English batsmen.

 

[TeymurBlake]

The 2nd Test and the 3rd Test in 2016, England comprehensively out played Yasir Shah. In SENA he is awful and doesn't have a good track record. It would be wise from Misbah to look at a off spinner instead.

 

[shamaan]

BCCI must do all they can to ensure Yasir Shah stays in Pakistan team and they play Australia as much as possible because Yasir is the Kryptonite to Steven Smith.

If we have to ensure Kohli retiree greatest of this era unquestionably then Yasir has to play a lot against Australia. Whatever it takes.

[MENTION=14959]bcci[/MENTION] [MENTION=45152]Saurav[/MENTION]Ganguly @ NarendraModi

Wasn't just referring to Australia, besides guys like Musa in that series were rookies. Yasir is an experienced bowler but has been poor for some time now.

I don't think he will be that threatening to the English batsmen.

Musa naseem abbas imran they all got hammered

Tbh lords and edgbaston normally spin but they ain't the 2 venues so I wouldnt even pick a spinner il go 5 man attack like last time they came to England

 

[shamaan]

The 2nd Test and the 3rd Test in 2016, England comprehensively out played Yasir Shah. In SENA he is awful and doesn't have a good track record. It would be wise from Misbah to look at a off spinner instead.

What about in the first one ? And nope 5 man attack 4 fast and shadab

 

[Kroll]

Musa naseem abbas imran they all got hammered

Tbh lords and edgbaston normally spin but they ain't the 2 venues so I wouldnt even pick a spinner il go 5 man attack like last time they came to England

Yes but as I said, we’re not referring to just that Australia series although I’m not sure why Imran was taken along.

We’re talking about the sustained period of mediocrity. What do you think he’s going to do in England apart from getting tonked around and then giving us all a cheesy grin?

 

[Kroll]

Yes but as I said, we’re not referring to just that Australia series although I’m not sure why Imran was taken along.

We’re talking about the sustained period of mediocrity. What do you think he’s going to do in England apart from getting tonked around and then giving us all a cheesy grin?

And Naseem and Musa for that matter.

 

[shamaan]

Yes but as I said, we’re not referring to just that Australia series although I’m not sure why Imran was taken along.

We’re talking about the sustained period of mediocrity. What do you think he’s going to do in England apart from getting tonked around and then giving us all a cheesy grin?

If I was selector he wouldnt start unless its lords or edgbaston i would play shadab and fahim.

Yes I agree musa shouldn't have gone but you cant say naseem shouldn't have gone so are you saying naseem shouldn't go to england if no who would you take

 

[Kroll]

If I was selector he wouldnt start unless its lords or edgbaston i would play shadab and fahim.

Yes I agree musa shouldn't have gone but you cant say naseem shouldn't have gone so are you saying naseem shouldn't go to england if no who would you take

Naseem is still basically a kid, now that he's brought in and shown that he can do something at this level, I'm okay with his inclusion but this thread isn't about Naseem.

It's not my fault there hasn't been any proper planning for the fast bowling stocks.

 

[shamaan]

Naseem is still basically a kid, now that he's brought in and shown that he can do something at this level, I'm okay with his inclusion but this thread isn't about Naseem.

It's not my fault there hasn't been any proper planning for the fast bowling stocks.

U said naseem and musa for that matter hence why I said that.

100 percent correct now waqar is the coach he will sort the bowling out but stil I say take yasir if its ganna turn play him if it isn't then shadab should play as an all rounder

 

[Kroll]

U said naseem and musa for that matter hence why I said that.

100 percent correct now waqar is the coach he will sort the bowling out but stil I say take yasir if its ganna turn play him if it isn't then shadab should play as an all rounder

Don’t hold your breath on the Waqar Misbah combo.

 

[TeymurBlake]

What about in the first one ? And nope 5 man attack 4 fast and shadab

A finger spinner in the team for the tour would be a good move, specially if its someone like Zafar Gohar. Considering the RHBs in the England line-up, having a left armer spinner would be a good move.

 

[shamaan]

Don’t hold your breath on the Waqar Misbah combo.

Waqar only been thier short time but hes given a chance to new comers what did azhar do nothing

 

[shamaan]

A finger spinner in the team for the tour would be a good move, specially if its someone like Zafar Gohar. Considering the RHBs in the England line-up, having a left armer spinner would be a good move.

Left arm spinner would be good if it spins or thier rough outside right handers eyes I'd take shadab also you got Harris sohail

 

[TeymurBlake]

Left arm spinner would be good if it spins or thier rough outside right handers eyes I'd take shadab also you got Harris sohail

The summer is expected to be quite warm, which would make pitches dry and rough. A finger spinner will be able to slow the pace down and exploit the rough areas. Leggie wouldn't be bad as they have more pace on the bowl.

 

[Kroll]

Waqar only been thier short time but hes given a chance to new comers what did azhar do nothing

Waqar has been in coaching capacity before doing a rubbish job. Just like the players, PCB is intent on recycling the coaches as well.

 

[shamaan]

The summer is expected to be quite warm, which would make pitches dry and rough. A finger spinner will be able to slow the pace down and exploit the rough areas. Leggie wouldn't be bad as they have more pace on the bowl.

Is it expected to be warm but I stil belive the best pace attack will go and win the series spinners wont blow the opposition away but fast bowlers will I'd stil play fahim and shadab who will get runs and will take some wickets wich will then allow naseem to bowl quick fast spells

 

[shamaan]

Waqar has been in coaching capacity before doing a rubbish job. Just like the players, PCB is intent on recycling the coaches as well.

I think this time will be different and he can work with new emerging bowlers shaheen also stated if you cant learn how to bowl Yorkers from waqar u wont learn from anyone

 

[Kroll]

I think this time will be different and he can work with new emerging bowlers shaheen also stated if you cant learn how to bowl Yorkers from waqar u wont learn from anyone

What do you think he will do differently? Guy stays around for a while, doing a rubbish job in the process then quits blaming the PCB for one thing or another.

 

[shamaan]

What do you think he will do differently? Guy stays around for a while, doing a rubbish job in the process then quits blaming the PCB for one thing or another.

Hes already kicked amir and wahab out of the contracts that's something different hes given chance to young bowlers

 

[Kroll]

Hes already kicked amir and wahab out of the contracts that's something different hes given chance to young bowlers

So why persist with past it bowlers like Yasir? Denying contracts to Amir and Wahab was likely to have been a Misbah decision to carry out his vengeance. Waqar is a pretty clueless coach, we have all seen this over the years and now we have another clueless head coach thats joined him. Its like the blind leading the blind.

 

[shamaan]

So why persist with past it bowlers like Yasir? Denying contracts to Amir and Wahab was likely to have been a Misbah decision to carry out his vengeance. Waqar is a pretty clueless coach, we have all seen this over the years and now we have another clueless head coach thats joined him. Its like the blind leading the blind.

Is that the only bowler you can think off ? I think it was waqar decision along wiz misbah.so if waqar makes naseem or shaheen become stars would you say it's due to themselves or detue to waqar

 

[Kroll]

Is that the only bowler you can think off ? I think it was waqar decision along wiz misbah.so if waqar makes naseem or shaheen become stars would you say it's due to themselves or detue to waqar

No they they took IK snr to Aus as well, he was plucked out of the blue. He runs in faster than he can bowl. Shaheens already a bit of a star. Hope Naseem does well but he's still pretty raw. You can't put it down to just Waqar, players will come through regardless.

 

[shamaan]

No they they took IK snr to Aus as well, he was plucked out of the blue. He runs in faster than he can bowl. Shaheens already a bit of a star. Hope Naseem does well but he's still pretty raw. You can't put it down to just Waqar, players will come through regardless.

Who has come throw in the last 5 years as a bowler ?

 

[Kroll]

Who has come throw in the last 5 years as a bowler ?

Shaheen, Abbas, Shadab, Hasan Ali until he faded away but he could come back. Others came and went including Sohail Khan, Rahat Ali etc. Shinwari and Faheem are on the periphery at the moment.

 

[BoomBoomCricket]

The summer is expected to be quite warm, which would make pitches dry and rough. A finger spinner will be able to slow the pace down and exploit the rough areas. Leggie wouldn't be bad as they have more pace on the bowl.

Finger spinners tend to be quicker than wrist spinners.

 

[shamaan]

Shaheen, Abbas, Shadab, Hasan Ali until he faded away but he could come back. Others came and went including Sohail Khan, Rahat Ali etc. Shinwari and Faheem are on the periphery at the moment.

Shaheen shadab and hassan ali all came throw within 4 years am sure.

 

[Junaids]

It’s pretty devastating, but we saw in South Africa 16 months ago that Yasir Shah is an Asian conditions specialist who is actually inferior to Shadab Khan on bouncier or greener or quicker surfaces.

 

[Kroll]

It’s pretty devastating, but we saw in South Africa 16 months ago that Yasir Shah is an Asian conditions specialist who is actually inferior to Shadab Khan on bouncier or greener or quicker surfaces.

Doubt he's even that anymore.

 

[Nasty Naz]

For the same reason Younis Khan was persisted with in ODI for years despite being completely awful. And for the same reason Azhar/Shafiq etc have been persisted with on the Test team for years despite poor performance.

It's all because of seniority and players being perpetually rewarded for past performance (but only if you're senior!). Much of the same will continue with Yasir unfortunately.

 

[Kroll]

I'm not sure why people are still including him in their team's for the first Test. This guy is a proper bum that like many other of our players suffers from lazyitis. He has made no effort to recover from the poor form which has been in terminal decline for the last 4 years.

Instead he he has let his belly grow and hang out like a flat tyre, not worked hard to better his game, just goes through the motions and has a lack of fitness. The result has been a bowler that gets tonked at 6 rpo while picking up the odd wicket.

It amazes me that Misbah is even considering playing him. The net effect will be an advantage to England helping them into a winning position as they feast upon his rubbish bowling.

 

[shamaan]

I'm not sure why people are still including him in their team's for the first Test. This guy is a proper bum that like many other of our players suffers from lazyitis. He has made no effort to recover from the poor form which has been in terminal decline for the last 4 years.

Instead he he has let his belly grow and hang out like a flat tyre, not worked hard to better his game, just goes through the motions and has a lack of fitness. The result has been a bowler that gets tonked at 6 rpo while picking up the odd wicket.

It amazes me that Misbah is even considering playing him. The net effect will be an advantage to England helping them into a winning position as they feast upon his rubbish bowling.

Who would you play instead

 

[Kroll]

Who would you play instead

Ideally Zafar Gohar but he's not there so I still favour Shadab.

 

[shamaan]

Ideally Zafar Gohar but he's not there so I still favour Shadab.

Yes defo gohar he isnt thier and shadab is a batting all rounder in tests not good enough in tests as bowler Bhatti he can bat and hold end up

 

[Zaz]

Id give yasir a go in the first test

If he proves ineffective shadab comes only because shadab at least has the capability with the bat to score a vital 60 runs per match

Spinners in england arent going to be very effective from what ive seen of the cricket so far this summer so a better bet would be to get someone in who can bat too like shadab

 

[Kroll]

Yes defo gohar he isnt thier and shadab is a batting all rounder in tests not good enough in tests as bowler Bhatti he can bat and hold end up

Problem is Yasir isn't good enough in SENA tests either. I don't feel he has merited a place in the side and he has done squat to improve his game or fitness. I'm prepared to take a punt on Shadab.

Some serious questions should be asked of Misbah and his selections. Blind loyalty to some of his pals isn't going to do the national side any good.

 

[Rayyman]

Id give yasir a go in the first test

If he proves ineffective shadab comes only because shadab at least has the capability with the bat to score a vital 60 runs per match

Spinners in england arent going to be very effective from what ive seen of the cricket so far this summer so a better bet would be to get someone in who can bat too like shadab

Problem is Yasir isn't good enough in SENA tests either. I don't feel he has merited a place in the side and he has done squat to improve his game or fitness. I'm prepared to take a punt on Shadab.

Some serious questions should be asked of Misbah and his selections. Blind loyalty to some of his pals isn't going to do the national side any good.

Are you guys forgetting that Yasir Shah has a Test match hundred in Australia

It's between Yasir and a fourth pacer. Shadab is not playing.

Shadab- 3/10 in batting and 4/10 in bowling

Yasir- 2/10 in batting and 7/10 in bowling

 

[Bigboii]

Id give yasir a go in the first test

If he proves ineffective shadab comes only because shadab at least has the capability with the bat to score a vital 60 runs per match

Spinners in england arent going to be very effective from what ive seen of the cricket so far this summer so a better bet would be to get someone in who can bat too like shadab

Waqar thinks differently

 

[Kroll]

Are you guys forgetting that Yasir Shah has a Test match hundred in Australia

It's between Yasir and a fourth pacer. Shadab is not playing.

Shadab- 3/10 in batting and 4/10 in bowling

Yasir- 2/10 in batting and 7/10 in bowling

He also has hundreds in his bowling without many wickets and that's what we employ him for. This debate is purely academic though as we all know Yasir's going to play the 1st Test.

We will then see the cries of "why was he selected?".

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Loyalty factor.

Misbah expecting the Yasir Shah of 2016 to turn up and do wonders.

Best spinner in Pak Zafar Gohar will be wasted while old mates will be kept content.

 

[shamaan]

Problem is Yasir isn't good enough in SENA tests either. I don't feel he has merited a place in the side and he has done squat to improve his game or fitness. I'm prepared to take a punt on Shadab.

Some serious questions should be asked of Misbah and his selections. Blind loyalty to some of his pals isn't going to do the national side any good.

I no but that's the best we have atm.

 

[Kroll]

I no but that's the best we have atm.

Is he really?

Arguably on the tour, but he's not the best Pakistan spinner which is a travesty of justice. Even Hafeez could do a better job if his action was passed.

 

[Usman]

I am really worried about our spin option to be honest. I thought initially we had to pick Shadab and/or Bhatti because neither could do worse than Yasir. Then I saw Shadab going at 6/7 an over against the mighty Azhar Ali and thought oh dear, that means he'd go at 30 runs an over against the likes of Stokes!

Yasir is a useless but Shadab has scared me so much with his performance that I'm actually beggining to wonder who's the least bad!

Why Zafar Gohar is ignored I will never know!

 

[Junaids]

Yasir Shah may have taken 4 wickets at Derby, but he also only bowled 2 maiden overs out of 31 overs.

He's going to get smashed, as is Shadab Khan.

I'd prefer to play Mohammad Amir to bat at Number 8 as the fourth quick.

Then I would push Rizwan up to Number 6 and play either Iftikhar or Shadab as a seventh batsman and part-time spinner. And Shadab is better able to do that role as he is superior with the bat and has the variety to get tailenders out.

 

[MMHS]

Yasir Shah may have taken 4 wickets at Derby, but he also only bowled 2 maiden overs out of 31 overs.

He's going to get smashed, as is Shadab Khan.

I'd prefer to play Mohammad Amir to bat at Number 8 as the fourth quick.

Then I would push Rizwan up to Number 6 and play either Iftikhar or Shadab as a seventh batsman and part-time spinner. And Shadab is better able to do that role as he is superior with the bat and has the variety to get tailenders out.

Why not Yasir in that role - he has scored a hundred in his last tour of Australia and averaged 48, more than even Rizwan? And, surely he can be better than anyone as part-time spinner.

 

[shamaan]

Is he really?

Arguably on the tour, but he's not the best Pakistan spinner which is a travesty of justice. Even Hafeez could do a better job if his action was passed.

Yes on the tour defo the nest we have.of course hes not the best spinner in the country gohar and umer khan need to be invested in.

 

[shamaan]

I am really worried about our spin option to be honest. I thought initially we had to pick Shadab and/or Bhatti because neither could do worse than Yasir. Then I saw Shadab going at 6/7 an over against the mighty Azhar Ali and thought oh dear, that means he'd go at 30 runs an over against the likes of Stokes!

Yasir is a useless but Shadab has scared me so much with his performance that I'm actually beggining to wonder who's the least bad!

Why Zafar Gohar is ignored I will never know!

Agreed I said the same thing shadab was so poor

 

[shamaan]

Yasir Shah may have taken 4 wickets at Derby, but he also only bowled 2 maiden overs out of 31 overs.

He's going to get smashed, as is Shadab Khan.

I'd prefer to play Mohammad Amir to bat at Number 8 as the fourth quick.

Then I would push Rizwan up to Number 6 and play either Iftikhar or Shadab as a seventh batsman and part-time spinner. And Shadab is better able to do that role as he is superior with the bat and has the variety to get tailenders out.

Tbh rizwan should bat at 6 becouse hes decent and good technique.

 

[shamaan]

Why not Yasir in that role - he has scored a hundred in his last tour of Australia and averaged 48, more than even Rizwan? And, surely he can be better than anyone as part-time spinner.

Yes he got a 100 doesnt that warrant him a spot in the team based on this

 

[MMHS]

Yes he got a 100 doesnt that warrant him a spot in the team based on this

It’s not about how good or bad Yasir is - it’s about what are the options. I mentioned Yasir’s batting heroics in Australia for a different reason, which I’ll keep it to myself. But, be sure that I am the last person to pick lead spinner based on his batting heroics.

No, that century doesn’t warrant him a spot, rather what warrants is his performance against England in his last tour, his career achievements, England’s batting ability against spin and obviously for who else available to fill that spot of premier spinners. After reading so many rubbish regarding Yasir’s last tour of UK where he had 19 wickets at 41 with two 5fors and a 10for ... it’s a bit difficult to digest thereafter to read the fantasy around the mouth watering prospects of a possible come back by Mo Amir, who Averaged 42 for his 12 wickets in same series, being a swing bowler - there must be something wrong here.

Yasir has a major issue with fitness and managing body weight, on top of that he has faked age by quite some years, therefore his struggle for fitness and loss of form is quite expected. But still, he is miles, miles better than any other spinner available there provided that he is fit enough to bowl 60+ overs. Yes, if he is not fit, he must not play; because Yasir won’t be picked for “contribution” with bat & ball - he’ll be picked to bowl long, long spells from one end against wind so that Azhar can rotate his three pacers from the other end with wind. But, if he is not fit enough, then he shouldn’t have been picked at first call.

If PCT tank thinks that they don’t need any regular spinner and can operate with four pacers, good luck to them but the wickets that I have seen so far, England’s batting display against someone like Chase and the post CV guidelines for shining balls, it’ll be utmost stupidity not to play at least one specialist spinner. Now tell me, without considering his hundred - who warrants a spot in playing XI in that regard - Shadab Khan? Kashif Bhatti?

 

[Saj]

Apparently he was on and off the field quite a bit at Derby in the warm-up match. I wonder how fit he actually is.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Because he has built a fake reputation and Shane Warne hyped him to the moon.

And, he's still pretty decent on UAE tracks, particularly in the 2nd innings.

Should not be selected for overseas tours though. Has some utility in the UAE / rank turners.

Shane Warne did not hype Yasir to the moon. He only Predicted that Yasir will get 200 wickets, Which he did in Record time (breaking Clarrie Grimmett's record )

However That prediction proved a little too accurate LoL.
he stopped performing after that

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Yasir Shah may have taken 4 wickets at Derby, but he also only bowled 2 maiden overs out of 31 overs.

He's going to get smashed, as is Shadab Khan.

I'd prefer to play Mohammad Amir to bat at Number 8 as the fourth quick.

Then I would push Rizwan up to Number 6 and play either Iftikhar or Shadab as a seventh batsman and part-time spinner. And Shadab is better able to do that role as he is superior with the bat and has the variety to get tailenders out.

That is true. Test cricket is no Place for Uncle Iftikhar Ahmed.

 

[shamaan]

It’s not about how good or bad Yasir is - it’s about what are the options. I mentioned Yasir’s batting heroics in Australia for a different reason, which I’ll keep it to myself. But, be sure that I am the last person to pick lead spinner based on his batting heroics.

No, that century doesn’t warrant him a spot, rather what warrants is his performance against England in his last tour, his career achievements, England’s batting ability against spin and obviously for who else available to fill that spot of premier spinners. After reading so many rubbish regarding Yasir’s last tour of UK where he had 19 wickets at 41 with two 5fors and a 10for ... it’s a bit difficult to digest thereafter to read the fantasy around the mouth watering prospects of a possible come back by Mo Amir, who Averaged 42 for his 12 wickets in same series, being a swing bowler - there must be something wrong here.

Yasir has a major issue with fitness and managing body weight, on top of that he has faked age by quite some years, therefore his struggle for fitness and loss of form is quite expected. But still, he is miles, miles better than any other spinner available there provided that he is fit enough to bowl 60+ overs. Yes, if he is not fit, he must not play; because Yasir won’t be picked for “contribution” with bat & ball - he’ll be picked to bowl long, long spells from one end against wind so that Azhar can rotate his three pacers from the other end with wind. But, if he is not fit enough, then he shouldn’t have been picked at first call.

If PCT tank thinks that they don’t need any regular spinner and can operate with four pacers, good luck to them but the wickets that I have seen so far, England’s batting display against someone like Chase and the post CV guidelines for shining balls, it’ll be utmost stupidity not to play at least one specialist spinner. Now tell me, without considering his hundred - who warrants a spot in playing XI in that regard - Shadab Khan? Kashif Bhatti?

It also depends on the pitch if its s spinning pitch then yes yasir can play

 

[coy0607]

Historically, it usually takes anywhere from 2 to 10 years to get rid of a non-performing senior in the Pakistani team. Just in the recent past, look at Misbah, Kamran, or Afridi.

Even right now, Hafeez, Malik, Azhar, Asad, and Yasir have consistently been poor performers, yet they're very much part of the team.

Its not about Yasir, its the long-standing culture in Pakistan cricket.

 

[Junaids]

You can’t be serious about Yasir Shah batting up the order [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION].

Shadab Khan has played 9 Test innings of which four were:

56
55
52
47*

So he basically gets a fifty in 44% of his Test innings.

Yasir Shah has played 58 Test innings, for 1 century and zero fifties. His second highest score is 42 and his third highest score is 38* and he has one other score over 30. And that 1 century was on a grassless pitch against a pink ball on a track where the opposition scored 600-3 declared.

So Shadab Khan has 4 scores over 45 in 9 innings.

And Yasir Shah has 1 score over 45 in 58 innings.

 

[MMHS]

You can’t be serious about Yasir Shah batting up the order [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION].

Shadab Khan has played 9 Test innings of which four were:

56
55
52
47*

So he basically gets a fifty in 44% of his Test innings.

Yasir Shah has played 58 Test innings, for 1 century and zero fifties. His second highest score is 42 and his third highest score is 38* and he has one other score over 30. And that 1 century was on a grassless pitch against a pink ball on a track where the opposition scored 600-3 declared.

So Shadab Khan has 4 scores over 45 in 9 innings.

And Yasir Shah has 1 score over 45 in 58 innings.

I am more serious here than comparing one bowler with fastest 200 wickets and at an average a Test 5for in every alternate Test vs a novice who won’t have made to bowl at nets in some of the earlier PAK teams. For his four fifties, I have given Shadab enough honour - a possible spot in playing XI as batting all-rounder. You start giving Yasir the restorer he deserves for his 15 wickets in the two Tests PAK won in his last UK trip, we are in peace.

 

[MMHS]

It also depends on the pitch if its s spinning pitch then yes yasir can play

Even if it’s not a spinners pitch still Yasir is required to bowl long spells against wind. Bowling contributions shouldn’t be measured with the stats only - you see it other way - among all Test venues, Yasir is significantly poor in Australia & SAF .... now check how PAK team is man handled in those places, one should realise what Yasir carries for PCT and if he doesn’t deliver, where it can go.

But yes, he has to be fit for five days and 60+ overs; otherwise he shouldn’t play.

 

[TrentDevil]

I would go with Yasir, off the spinners available, he's the best choice and deserves to be in the playing XI ahead of Shadab & Bhatti.

 

[Geil]

Yasir shah must be played specially in this England series for various reasons like he has the experience on bowling England pitches and he has been successful on previous tours, Yasir shah is fastest to 200 wickets so for that stats only he should at-least be persisted here where he has proven his worth

I agree that Pak need to build or say bring in better spinners specially in tests but this series against England is not the right series to bring in other untested or not proven spinners instead of Yasie like shadab,bhatti or any other spinners especially when you now that Pak fast bowling too lack in experience too

I think in the recent home test matches pak should have tried new spinners, but I remeber correctly they didn't play any in the playing eleven in the three tests matches they played against SL & Ban

Pak must introduce and build two to three spinners as soon as possible playing at home or on sub-continent pitches as I dont see much future in Yasir Shah, he has at most maybe two years at max in him and it could be even less if he doesn't perform in this series, in fact I would say if Yasir Shah fails miserably in this series he should then be not persisted but he should definitely be persisted for this series because Pak think tank is to blame here as they didn't find any replacement spinner

 

[majiz]

i actually thought he bowled a lot better in australia then his figures suggest. deserved more wickets. seems as though he's learning to give the ball more air outside of asia. should definitely start against england.

 

[shamaan]

Even if it’s not a spinners pitch still Yasir is required to bowl long spells against wind. Bowling contributions shouldn’t be measured with the stats only - you see it other way - among all Test venues, Yasir is significantly poor in Australia & SAF .... now check how PAK team is man handled in those places, one should realise what Yasir carries for PCT and if he doesn’t deliver, where it can go.

But yes, he has to be fit for five days and 60+ overs; otherwise he shouldn’t play.

We no hes going to play theirs no way they going to drop him ll am.saying they have to adapt according to the situation and the the pitch conditions

 

[MMHS]

We no hes going to play theirs no way they going to drop him ll am.saying they have to adapt according to the situation and the the pitch conditions

Leg spinners are least dependent on wickets. Unless it’s a genuine green seemer’s top with soft surface & lots of moistures in air, a good leggi can operate. Also, leg spinners can use the wind blowing into him by varying pace & flight. Even if it’s not conducive to spin attack (which is not likely the case as it looks from WIN games), a leg spinner has the best chance to succeed or at least keep tight from one end. And, if you consider the back-up alternates, a fit Yasir should be the fourth name in the team sheet after Azhar, Babar & Shaheen.

 

[shamaan]

Leg spinners are least dependent on wickets. Unless it’s a genuine green seemer’s top with soft surface & lots of moistures in air, a good leggi can operate. Also, leg spinners can use the wind blowing into him by varying pace & flight. Even if it’s not conducive to spin attack (which is not likely the case as it looks from WIN games), a leg spinner has the best chance to succeed or at least keep tight from one end. And, if you consider the back-up alternates, a fit Yasir should be the fourth name in the team sheet after Azhar, Babar & Shaheen.

Leg spinners csnt hold an end up if you want to hold an end up you would go wiz a left out authdox.leg spinners will go for more runs but take more wickets. Forth name in English conditions no chance. Azhar babar shaheen abbas naseem even shan masood maybe

 

[Loralai]

He's been embarrassing in this T20 Cup. Hard to believe he has 200+ Test wickets.

 

[Firebat]

Yasir with figures of 3/90 from his 23 overs today in the QEA Trophy for Balochistan vs Southern Punjab.

 

[Saj]

3 wickets today but went for 4 an over again from 23 overs.

 

[shamaan]

Going at 4 runs an over is not good enough he needs to hold an end up