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Might sound quite bold to a few people, but I don't think it is at all - Kohli is only 28 and I expect him to surpass the 50 ton mark within the next 5 years unless his form falls off a cliff perennially.

Even if you think he's not up there with the greatest ODI batsmen on reputation or status, he is alongside them when it comes to numbers and will definitely surpass when he calls it a day in around a decade's time.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
He may get to 50, but still a long way to go. He still has to get 20? right. Not many batsmen have gotten even 20 tons in entire career so it's not so easy.
 
Would be nothing extraordinary in this day and age. I expect at least 10 people to pass the landmark in the next 20-25 years or so. A staggering 9 people are averaging 50+ in this decade in ODIs and the number will just go up and up. Cricket is just not what it used to be with regards to the balance between bat and ball. I would take Viv Richards' 11 ODI centuries over Kohli's 31 any day.
 
Hasan123 said:
He's got 31 centuries.
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OK, 19 is still a lot to get. I am not sure how many batsmen have 19 tons in ODI in thier entire career. It sounds easy based on what he has done so far, but it's not an easy task. It gets harder and harder.
 
Proactive_ said:
Would be nothing extraordinary in this day and age. I expect at least 10 people to pass the landmark in the next 20-25 years or so. A staggering 9 people are averaging 50+ in this decade in ODIs and the number will just go up and up. Cricket is just not what it used to be with regards to the balance between bat and ball. I would take Viv Richards' 11 ODI centuries over Kohli's 31 any day.
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It will be extremely hard to get 50+ tons for so many players. Averaging 50+ is a lot easier.
 
Buffet said:
OK, 19 is still a lot to get. I am not sure how many batsmen have 19 tons in ODI in thier entire career. It sounds easy based on what he has done so far, but it's not an easy task. It gets harder and harder.
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Won't be an easy task but he could get to 50.
 
Buffet said:
It will be extremely hard to get 50+ tons for so many players. Averaging 50+ is a lot easier.
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They just need to debut on the right side of their 20s. I bet if someone like Vinod Kambli debuts today at 21, he would be easily poised to cross 50 centuries in 10 years. He was a freakish stroke maker who would punish anything less than good bowling on any type of pitch for days, in the 90s he was found out under a year and had his career ended. He would feel all at home on the phattas of today with hardly any bowlers of note. Just explains the difference in the ODI scene of today and the 90s.
 
He will get it easily IMO. He will most likely play 200 ODIs more and can hit 23-24 hundreds more assuming he has a small bad patch in the latter part of his career.

And I don't see many players doing this. Non Asians don't play that many ODIs while among Asians, India have produced greatest batsmen. So this looks tough for others.

A case for Babar can be made but he has long way to go .However, he will surely surpass 30 hundreds mark unless he loses his way.
 
Inshallah, he'll get there. His haters can go cry as loudly as they want, no one will stop them.
 
Buffet said:
OK, 19 is still a lot to get. I am not sure how many batsmen have 19 tons in ODI in thier entire career. It sounds easy based on what he has done so far, but it's not an easy task. It gets harder and harder.
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Going to play Sri Lanka again. I think he can get to 35 quicker than we think.
 
Proactive_ said:
They just need to debut on the right side of their 20s.
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Yah, so some one has to be good enough to start early + the same batsman has to keep doing it for long time. To be prices do it 50 times to get 5k+ runs just by scoring tons. Easier said than done to be honest.

PPers extrapolate too much based on current situation. It's very hard to keep performing at high level for a long period. Yes, tons are easier than 90s for sure, but 50 is still a huge number.
 
I would be disappointed if he doesn't end up with at least 55 centuries in ODIs.
 
I don't expect Kohli to play international cricket after he hits 34-35 years of age so he will definitely get close but will probably fall short.
 
Proactive_ said:
Would be nothing extraordinary in this day and age. I expect at least 10 people to pass the landmark in the next 20-25 years or so. A staggering 9 people are averaging 50+ in this decade in ODIs and the number will just go up and up. Cricket is just not what it used to be with regards to the balance between bat and ball. I would take Viv Richards' 11 ODI centuries over Kohli's 31 any day.
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Landmark of 50 tons, yeah no there's only Kohli who can do that in LO, in tests no one is getting close to that mark as of now!
JibranAnsari said:
He will be the second to get 100 centuries.
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Unlikely, unless he starts opening in every T20I match for Ind even then it;s really though.
 
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Proactive_ said:
They just need to debut on the right side of their 20s. I bet if someone like Vinod Kambli debuts today at 21, he would be easily poised to cross 50 centuries in 10 years. .
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just like how AB Devilliers, Amla , Clarke and few others have managed to score all those runs and is matter of time that they get to 50 hundreds <s>each</s> between them ehh?

you never fail to Amuse me :)))
 
Proactive_ said:
They just need to debut on the right side of their 20s. I bet if someone like Vinod Kambli debuts today at 21, he would be easily poised to cross 50 centuries in 10 years. He was a freakish stroke maker who would punish anything less than good bowling on any type of pitch for days, in the 90s he was found out under a year and had his career ended. He would feel all at home on the phattas of today with hardly any bowlers of note. Just explains the difference in the ODI scene of today and the 90s.
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Babar Azam should get there pretty easily according to your logic?
 
Will always value someone like Ponting who scored 30 centuries..over someone like Kohli even if he scores 60. ODI runs and centuries are too easy nowadays.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Will always value someone like Ponting who scored 30 centuries..over someone like Kohli even if he scores 60. ODI runs and centuries are too easy nowadays.
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Same thing was said in the Sachin/Ponting era too. You will value Kohli's 60 centuries after 20 years.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He will play till 38 because he is a desi afterall.
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Oh, for sure. His fitness will also help in this regard but Is said he won't play international cricket past 34-35, not any cricket. He'll keep playing the IPL until he gets truly bored of cricket and who knows, perhaps he'll be allowed to play other T20 leagues as well.
 
His knock today separates him from the rest of his competitors. It was really flawless and he lead from the front while everyone around him was failing. It is his second best knock I have seen after his semi final knock against WI in t20 wc.
 
Tusker said:
just like how AB Devilliers, Amla , Clarke and few others have managed to score all those runs and is matter of time that they get to 50 hundreds <s>each</s> between them ehh?

you never fail to Amuse me :)))
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ABD bats at #5 and recently #4 which makes it tough for his to score as many centuries as top-order batsmen and Amla keeps breaking Kohli's records left, right and center. Neither of them will get to 50 hundreds but then again, the batsman with the most hundreds is not always the best batsman. :sachin
 
Bilal7 said:
Oh, for sure. His fitness will also help in this regard but Is said he won't play international cricket past 34-35, not any cricket. He'll keep playing the IPL until he gets truly bored of cricket and who knows, perhaps he'll be allowed to play other T20 leagues as well.
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He will keep playing intl cricket till 37/38. Wanna bet?
 
Bilal7 said:
ABD bats at #5 and recently #4 which makes it tough for his to score as many centuries as top-order batsmen
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Kohli - 180 Inngs at No.4 or below
Abd - 151 Inngs at No.4 or below with significant wasted chances between 1-3. Not everyone can make runs at all positions. Which is why kohli is the real king ... only the soft ones hide behind the top order.


and Amla keeps breaking Kohli's records left, right and center. Neither of them will get to 50 hundreds but then again, the batsman with the most hundreds is not always the best batsman. :sachin
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ohh yeah how is that working out considering that he is made it barely half way and is looking at old age problems soon :))
 
Tusker said:
Kohli - 180 Inngs at No.4 or below
Abd - 151 Inngs at No.4 or below with significant wasted chances between 1-3. Not everyone can make runs at all positions. Which is why kohli is the real king ... only the soft ones hide behind the top order.




ohh yeah how is that working out considering that he is made it barely half way and is looking at old age problems soon :))
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Are you saying 26 is the half of 31 and 7000 is the halfway point of 8000?

ABD has done much better than Kohli in ODI World Cups. I know who the soft one out of these two is.
 
Bilal7 said:
Are you saying 26 is the half of 31 and 7000 is the halfway point of 8000?

ABD has done much better than Kohli in ODI World Cups. I know who the soft one out of these two is.
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The talk is about Centuries in ODIs overall not WC. 26 is barely half of 50 infact if you consider Age it is actually not even half way... Not surprising at your attempt to move the discussion elsewhere to more defend-able territories. :))
 
I will be disappointed if he does not score 50 centuries. The way he's going, even 60 is possible.
 
Tusker said:
just like how AB Devilliers, Amla , Clarke and few others have managed to score all those runs and is matter of time that they get to 50 hundreds <s>each</s> between them ehh?

you never fail to Amuse me :)))
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They all debuted in early to mid 2000s.

Look at the figures for this decade:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...0;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

A staggering 8 people averaging 50 or above with 2000+ in the last 8 years, Babar Azam coming in soon. No wonder batting records are being broken left, right and center. This inflation of batting averages and hundreds has gone on abated with this era's flat pitches, big bats and teams' all rounder over specialist bowler mindset.
 
Tusker said:
As did Kohli who started in 2008. But Please continue to enlighten us how the 3 yrs that separate ABD and Kohli make all the difference. :))
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Well for starters Kohli played just 15 matches in the last decade whereas AB played 93. That's a significant difference.

Mid 2000s was still a decent time for bowlers with the last of the old guard in McGrath, Warne, Pollock, Gillespie still playing who retired around 06-07. This decade has been an absolute spaghetti fest. AB has been averaging 65+ with a SR of 110+ and in a couple of years there would be at least a dozen batsmen who would be averaging 50+ in the 2010s. If this doesn't sound ridiculous to you then I don't know what will, especially if you've been watching cricket for a while and not just started this decade.
 
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Well for starters Kohli played just 15 matches in the last decade whereas AB played 93. That's a significant difference.

Mid 2000s was still a decent time for bowlers with the last of the old guard in McGrath, Warne, Pollock, Gillespie still playing who retired around 06-07. This decade has been an absolute spaghetti fest.
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yep he played them in a grand total of 2 matches and ZERO dismissals against all of them combined. Polly is a Safie BTW. Next !!


AB has been averaging 65+ with a SR of 110+ and in a couple of years there would be at least a dozen batsmen who would be averaging 50+ in the 2010s. If this doesn't sound ridiculous to you then I don't know what will, especially if you've been watching cricket for a while and not just started this decade.
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It just took him forever to find his feet and know his game. There is nothing dramatically different today than what was 10-11 yrs ago.
 
He's still in the heart of his prime.

If they play enough ODIs, I think he'll get there easily.
 
The guy is pure class. i would not be surprise if he gets 60+. I will be disappointed if he does not get 50. I just love the way he plays and take on opposition by himself.
 
He is one of the best in constructing an ODI innings. He plays on the ground early on before exploding in the end. His risk free cricket upfront is the reason why he is able to score 100 easily. Scoring 100 is not easy regardless of the opposition or condition. Ask Misba how hard it is to score a 100 in a ODI.

Just to give you perspective Since Kohli made ODI debut he has scored 31 centuries. Entire Pakistan team all the players combined scored 48 centuries during the same period. Only 17 behind .
 
I remember people saying Ponting would get to 50 test centuries before SRT when Ponting was at his peak. He had around 35 test centuries or something in 2006, and scored only 6-7 more centuries till 2012.

The greatest of players cant win against aging reflexes. It will be a massive achievement if he does it. Although personally, it would be a greater achievement for him if he dominated the next ODI WC. Then he will rightfully find his place among the greatest to have played the game.
 
Dead Ball said:
I remember people saying Ponting would get to 50 test centuries before SRT when Ponting was at his peak. He had around 35 test centuries or something in 2006, and scored only 6-7 more centuries till 2012.

The greatest of players cant win against aging reflexes. It will be a massive achievement if he does it. Although personally, it would be a greater achievement for him if he dominated the next ODI WC. Then he will rightfully find his place among the greatest to have played the game.
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For me too.

He is an amazing LOI bat and has played some mind blowing innings but for the love of God, please play well in crunch situations in ICC tourneys. Not like he hasn't done it (cameo in 2011 finals, good knock in CT 2013 which again if it were 50 overs could have made no difference...who knows) but just not enough.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
For me too.

He is an amazing LOI bat and has played some mind blowing innings but for the love of God, please play well in crunch situations in ICC tourneys. Not like he hasn't done it (cameo in 2011 finals, good knock in CT 2013 which again if it were 50 overs could have made no difference...who knows) but just not enough.
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But then he got out trying to increase RR in 20 over game. Regardless overall point stands.
 
Bilal7 said:
ABD bats at #5 and recently #4 which makes it tough for his to score as many centuries as top-order batsmen and Amla keeps breaking Kohli's records left, right and center. Neither of them will get to 50 hundreds but then again, the batsman with the most hundreds is not always the best batsman. :sachin
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Only 44 out of AB's 215 innings have come below no 4. Also in this case, the last line is true though.
 
Tusker said:
yep he played them in a grand total of 2 matches and ZERO dismissals against all of them combined. Polly is a Safie BTW. Next !!




It just took him forever to find his feet and know his game. There is nothing dramatically different today than what was 10-11 yrs ago.
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Obviously it's dramatically different. 9 people are averaging 50+ in ODIs this decade. The figure was just 2 from 2000-2009 and only 1 (M. Bevan) in the 90s.. 300 was still a pretty respectable score in 2006. Nowadays in majority of the cases it's not even par.
 
Dead Ball said:
I remember people saying Ponting would get to 50 test centuries before SRT when Ponting was at his peak. He had around 35 test centuries or something in 2006, and scored only 6-7 more centuries till 2012.

The greatest of players cant win against aging reflexes. It will be a massive achievement if he does it. Although personally, it would be a greater achievement for him if he dominated the next ODI WC. Then he will rightfully find his place among the greatest to have played the game.
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Ponting was 34 when he scored his 35th Test century.

Kohli is 28.
 
Proactive_ said:
Obviously it's dramatically different. 9 people are averaging 50+ in ODIs this decade. The figure was just 2 from 2000-2009 and only 1 (M. Bevan) in the 90s.. 300 was still a pretty respectable score in 2006. Nowadays in majority of the cases it's not even par.
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you need to look at figures from 2005 which is when ABD Started to play. Things dont change overnight just because the decade ended on 31 Dec 2009.
 
Tusker said:
you need to look at figures from 2005 which is when ABD Started to play. Things dont change overnight just because the decade ended on 31 Dec 2009.
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Well by your own words 3-4 years don't make any difference.. so..
 
Hope he gets there. Just needs to perform on the big stage. I always want him to make a century except when he's playing against Pakistan. :smith
 
Tusker said:
thats right ... so we agree that nothing drastically changed between 2005 and 2010 to suddenly make it all easy peasy for the batmen.
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Yes. But a simple size of 10 years makes things much clearer. Batting in 2010s is indeed much easier than 2000s as evidenced by the inflation in averages and hundreds this decade as compared to the previous.
 
Proactive_ said:
Yes. But a simple size of 10 years makes things much clearer. Batting in 2010s is indeed much easier than 2000s as evidenced by the inflation in averages and hundreds this decade as compared to the previous.
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But it is not that cut and dry that you can draw the line in 2010 ... I can easily draw the line anywhere between 2003 - 2009
 
He should get it quite easily. Age is on his side. Hopefully, they lead to Indian wins outside SC and not just end up as statistics.
 
Tusker said:
But it is not that cut and dry that you can draw the line in 2010 ... I can easily draw the line anywhere between 2003 - 2009
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So by your reasoning batting in ODIs in 2017 is just as easy/difficult as in 2007? Ok then.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
For me too.

He is an amazing LOI bat and has played some mind blowing innings but for the love of God, please play well in crunch situations in ICC tourneys. Not like he hasn't done it (cameo in 2011 finals, good knock in CT 2013 which again if it were 50 overs could have made no difference...who knows) but just not enough.
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Exactly.

He needs to put in a performance similar to what he did in the last T20 WC, in ODI's.
 
kingusama92 said:
Ponting was 34 when he scored his 35th Test century.

Kohli is 28.
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I just checked.

Ponting was one month away from his 32nd birthday when he scored his 33rd test century. In the next six years he scored eight test centuries, half of them against a weak Indian bowling attack.

Kohli turns 29 next month, but we never truly know when a sportsman's decline in form begins. Sachin's started with a tennis elbow when he was 29/30, and his struggle went on till he was around 33.
 
On 22 October 2017, OP said this:
Might sound quite bold to a few people, but I don't think it is at all - Kohli is only 28 and I expect him to surpass the 50 ton mark within the next 5 years unless his form falls off a cliff perennially.
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It is 19 October 2023, only 3 days until it’s exactly +5 years from this post. After his knock against BD @ Pune in the WC23, he moved to the 48 ODI ton mark.

He has an opportunity on 22 October, 2023 to make it 49 tons against NZ @ Dharamsala. This would make his record equal Tendulkar’s record.

I know it’s not gonna be 50 in 5 years, but boy, did OP call it?

Despite that 3 year drought, he’s just a hair away from reaching the milestone.
 
ArabKnight said:
On 22 October 2017, OP said this:


It is 19 October 2023, only 3 days until it’s exactly +5 years from this post. After his knock against BD @ Pune in the WC23, he moved to the 48 ODI ton mark.

He has an opportunity on 22 October, 2023 to make it 49 tons against NZ @ Dharamsala. This would make his record equal Tendulkar’s record.

I know it’s not gonna be 50 in 5 years, but boy, did OP call it?

Despite that 3 year drought, he’s just a hair away from reaching the milestone.
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Soo emotion sentiment....hats off to dedication of Kohli towards game.He is still going strong....
 
A breakdown of his 100s, no wonder Babar wanted his shirt :p

Virat Kohli in ODIs:

48 hundreds (8 v Australia, 5 v Bangladesh, 3 v England, 5 v NZ, 3 v Pakistan, 4 v S Africa, 10 v S Lanka, 9 v West Indies, 1 v Zimbabwe)
68 fifties
58.00 average
93.71 strike-rate
 
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Saj said:
A breakdown of his 100s, now wonder Babar wanted his shirt :p

Virat Kohli in ODIs:

48 hundreds (8 v Australia, 5 v Bangladesh, 3 v England, 5 v NZ, 3 v Pakistan, 4 v S Africa, 10 v S Lanka, 9 v West Indies, 1 v Zimbabwe)
68 fifties
58.00 average
93.71 strike-rate
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Doesn’t have any against Afghanistan or Netherlands. He usually gets rested for games like these.
 
Showed his true face.

Turned down singles to get his 100 against the mighty Bangladesh.

NRR is going to be crucial and this dude turning down runs to try get his 100.

Don't want to hear anything about Sachin being selfish again.
 
Saj said:
A breakdown of his 100s, no wonder Babar wanted his shirt :p

Virat Kohli in ODIs:

48 hundreds (8 v Australia, 5 v Bangladesh, 3 v England, 5 v NZ, 3 v Pakistan, 4 v S Africa, 10 v S Lanka, 9 v West Indies, 1 v Zimbabwe)
68 fifties
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How many of those runs are against SENA are in bilateral series on phattas? More than half of those tons against Aus have to be on those Indian phattas where 350+ was being chased down like it's 200.
 
Aman said:
Showed his true face.

Turned down singles to get his 100 against the mighty Bangladesh.

NRR is going to be crucial and this dude turning down runs to try get his 100.

Don't want to hear anything about Sachin being selfish again.
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He turned down singles is what you saw and not the 6s he hit. He was 74 of 78 balls and ended but hitting 29 of the next 19 balls. So how did he affect the NRR?

Moreoever I dont think NRR matters for IND and NZ. They just need to win 2 more matches in their next 5 to qualify.
 
ex-q-zit said:
He turned down singles is what you saw and not the 6s he hit. He was 74 of 78 balls and ended but hitting 29 of the next 19 balls. So how did he affect the NRR?

Moreoever I dont think NRR matters for IND and NZ. They just need to win 2 more matches in their next 5 to qualify.
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Doesn't matter NRR could be crucial for determining who finishes 1st, 2nd,3rd or 4th.

You don't pull this nonsense in a WC, that too in a pool of 10 with 6 teams competing for 4 spots.
 
Aman said:
Doesn't matter NRR could be crucial for determining who finishes 1st, 2nd,3rd or 4th.

You don't pull this nonsense in a WC, that too in a pool of 10 with 6 teams competing for 4 spots.
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NRR doesn't matter for india as india will beat newzealand and top up the group easily
 
Devadwal said:
Mr expert Virat score last 30 runs from 16 delivery .he was scoring fast to get hundred. :shh
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You'd never see pro teams like NZ or Aus playing calculator to try get someone to a personal milestone in a WC match. They'd keep the foot on the gas and improve the NRR.

Can't remember but recently one of our players (Kane?) could mathematically gotten 100 but the other batsmen (Mitchell/Santner) hit boundaries and finished the game.
 
Aman said:
Doesn't matter NRR could be crucial for determining who finishes 1st, 2nd,3rd or 4th.

You don't pull this nonsense in a WC, that too in a pool of 10 with 6 teams competing for 4 spots.
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Your argument holds if he took till the 45th over to complete it but he scored runs at the rate of almost 10 per over. So unless you expected India to finish the match with 6 6s in an over they did it at a good rate. If you look at last 5 overs they scored 49 runs. Anyways you seem to hate him so whatever we say doesn't matter.
 
Aman said:
You'd never see pro teams like NZ or Aus playing calculator to try get someone to a personal milestone in a WC match. They'd keep the foot on the gas and improve the NRR.

Can't remember but recently one of our players (Kane?) could mathematically gotten 100 but the other batsmen (Mitchell/Santner) hit boundaries and finished the game.
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Its not india problem what were Australia or NZ team did .you can enjoy your success . :shh
 
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