Virat Kohli vs Sarfaraz Ahmed - Who is the better captain?

[Tyler Durden]

Rohit Sharma is proving to be a better thinking captain than Virat and Sarfaraz.

 

[Asif321]

India should make Rohait captain for LOIs asap
Kohli is lost in field as captain . Rohait is a calm individual with aggression in tactics

 

[Hasan123]

Looks clueless when playing any top team with a full strength team. Hillairious how those who were saying Sarfraz is a better captain are nowhere to be seen.

I'll take Kohli every single day of the week as captain over Sarfraz.

 

[Benchwarmer]

Somehow every kohli comparison thread ends badly on this forum

 

[Sam99]

Somehow every kohli comparison thread ends badly on this forum

Sarfaraz is poor captain but that doesn't hide the fact kohli too is poor captain.

 

[Hasan123]

No banghra on this thread tonight. Told y'all Kohli is a much better captain.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Both are poor captain IMO. To Sarfraz credit, atleast he has an ICC trophy...Kohli does not even have that. I think Mashrafe is the best Asian skipper currently

 

[Sidilicious]

No banghra on this thread tonight. Told y'all Kohli is a much better captain.

He might be better than Sarfi, but that doesn’t mean he is a good captain. Sarfi has an ICC trophy, lets not forget this! He took no hopers to a tourney win.

 

[cricketworm]

So, why Junaid or Amir didn't bowl after their initial spell of 4 overs when Pak was on top and Junaid was inform taking wicket didn't these two come in quite late. They came to bowl again when Mushy was all set?

 

[Hasan123]

He might be better than Sarfi, but that doesn’t mean he is a good captain. Sarfi has an ICC trophy, lets not forget this! He took no hopers to a tourney win.

His captaincy wasn't that amazing in the CT.

Kohli may not be a great captain but he is certainly better than Sarfraz.

 

[dhonixi]

Both are s**t captains. So it's futile to discuss this. But Kohli merits his place in the team while Sarfaraz do not know what to do on cricket ground.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Both are rubbish, Rohit is way better. Introduced Bumrah right when Malik and Sarfaraz were getting comfortable to keep them on their toes, gave everyone player in the squad a chance to play even if it meant dropping himself and has stayed in the background where he felt Dhoni had a better idea

 

[Dingolfy]

Both are rubbish, Rohit is way better. Introduced Bumrah right when Malik and Sarfaraz were getting comfortable to keep them on their toes, gave everyone player in the squad a chance to play even if it meant dropping himself and has stayed in the background where he felt Dhoni had a better idea

Under Kohli, we have beat every single non-minnow in an ODI series.He was the reason behind Kul-Cha coming into force and he always look for wickets.

 

[Dingolfy]

When people were hyping up Sarfaraz, I told them to wiat till he plays against non-minnows.You cant lose two tests at your own home against a team like SriLanka and then claim as a better captain than Kohli.And now he has proved that again.This thread should be closed.

 

[Sidilicious]

Under Kohli, we have beat every single non-minnow in an ODI series.He was the reason behind Kul-Cha coming into force and he always look for wickets.

See, both have their pros and cons.

Kohli is a leader. He backs fast bowlers and you can see that they delivered. Unfortunately, he hasn't been as open to backing youngsters as I would have liked. But he is not a good tactician (changing and chopping the team much) and can lose his head sometimes. He also has a big ego, which could impact the team negatively.

Rohit is more subdued, but is good tactically. He doesnt seem to have a big ego, which helps to listen to advice from others.

Now, if Kohli could lose his ego and take advice from Rohit/Rahane while playing (he only listens to Dhoni) and allow a coach like Kumble to operate (rather than just needing a cheerleader), he would become the perfect captain. He is not good tactically, but that is not a deal breaker, because some of the greatest captains have not been great tacticians. But they have been grounded enough to take advice from cleverer team members.

 

[navin]

bump......

 

[aukhan]

Even with the CT win under his bag Kohli still miles ahead of him. Sarfraz never in a million years can compete with Kohli.

 

[Hasan123]

Where are y'all who were saying to me Sarfraz is a better captain? Apparently he was a better tactican and Kohli has no tactics. Yet Kohli has won more tests as captain and only Asian captain in history to win a test in SA,Australia,and England.

Let's be honest, if Sarfraz took us to Australia against this current team, we would still loose 3-0. India won't get whitewashed and embrassed even if they don't win the series.

Come and place your humble pie orders here.

 

[Ganju Baba]

To paraphrase a certain member "Kohli is not fit enough to tie Sarfaraz's shoe laces".

Boy was he right. My dream though improbable is to hope that one day, Kohli to be a waterboy to the great Sarfaraz, the champion of champions.

Maybe then he'll be able to look himself in the mirror without being ashamed of his futile existence.

 

[Hasan123]

To paraphrase a certain member "Kohli is not fit enough to tie Sarfaraz's shoe laces".

Boy was he right. My dream though improbable is to hope that one day, Kohli to be a waterboy to the great Sarfaraz, the champion of champions.

Maybe then he'll be able to look himself in the mirror without being ashamed of his futile existence.

That poster has been hiding for a while. .

He calls the Indian bowling attack rubbish yet Kohli is still winning with them, whilst he says our attack is 1 of the best in the world yet Sarfraz can't win against top teams with them . )

 

[Suleiman]

Unless this is a wicket keeping comparison thread, these two should never be compared in anything.

 

[Hitman]

A captain earns the respect of his team mates and the fans when he leads from the front. Kohli does that, Sarfaraz doesn't. Look at the respective captains of India, SA, England, NZ, and even Aus till the scandal happened. All of those captains lead from the front with their performance. This is where Sarfaraz flatters to deceive.

 

[Ganju Baba]

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] When you consistently put emotions above facts, hiding is all you can do when reality catches up with you.

I am sure if India loses the next test, the same member will claim a personal triumph as if he has been coaching Aussies since their childhood.

 

[Usman Chadda]

A captain earns the respect of his team mates and the fans when he leads from the front. Kohli does that, Sarfaraz doesn't. Look at the respective captains of India, SA, England, NZ, and even Aus till the scandal happened. All of those captains lead from the front with their performance. This is where Sarfaraz flatters to deceive.

It helps that Kohli doesn't have a bunch of midgets at his disposable and more importantly, is one of the best players in the world. Give Kohli this Pakistan team and you're looking at an early retirement, with Anushka stepping in to save her husband from going insane with rage.

 

[Hasan123]

[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] When you consistently put emotions above facts, hiding is all you can do when reality catches up with you.

I am sure if India loses the next test, the same member will claim a personal triumph as if he has been coaching Aussies since their childhood.

Yes you are right. Kohli has taken India to number 1 in the test ranking so losing 1 or 2 games shouldn't make him a rubbish captain.

 

[Hitman]

It helps that Kohli doesn't have a bunch of midgets at his disposable and more importantly, is one of the best players in the world. Give Kohli this Pakistan team and you're looking at an early retirement, with Anushka stepping in to save her husband from going insane with rage.

I completely understand what you said. India toured Australia under SRT in 1999, and were routed 3-0 by the hosts. SRT was the MOS, and he was the lone warrior for his team, with the rest of the team doing bloody jack. Even Dravid averaged less than 20 odd in that series.

You can't do much when the rest of your team mates are absolute duds. But what I was speaking of is leading from the front, performance as a player. This is where Sarfaraz flatters to deceive. His performance as a batsman has been honestly below par.

 

[Hitman]

It helps that Kohli doesn't have a bunch of midgets at his disposable and more importantly, is one of the best players in the world. Give Kohli this Pakistan team and you're looking at an early retirement, with Anushka stepping in to save her husband from going insane with rage.

) Now that's a funny but true statement, keeping in mind it's Kohli we are speaking of.

 

[ManFan]

Here for my humble pie.

Kohli is a BETTER captain than Sarfraz.

 

[MenInG]

Virat can dance too....


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[topspin]

Virat can dance too....


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I'm glad Sarfraz doesn't do it, imagine the sight of his belly

 

[JaDed]

Kohli is not a good captain Imho, the only positive is the push he has given fast bowlers, but again we are back to 4 bowlers but he at best is better than Sachin as a captain, Dada,Dhoni, Kimble,Dravid all seemed better not sure about Rohit yet..

Sarfaraz obviously cannot captain his team for long with such performance and shouting though, needs to work in his game.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Sarfraz

If he was captain of the Indian team he would have won test series in both South Africa and England.

 

[Hasan123]

Here for my humble pie.

Kohli is a BETTER captain than Sarfraz.

I'm sorry to say this but I told you. Sarfraz has no tactics. 50 percent of cricket captaincy is leading through performance. It inspires the team. Sarfraz doesn't led from the front so how can he shout at others when he isn't doing his own job ? And his fitness doesn't set a good example for up and coming players.

 

[ManFan]

I'm sorry to say this but I told you. Sarfraz has no tactics. 50 percent of cricket captaincy is leading through performance. It inspires the team. Sarfraz doesn't led from the front so how can he shout at others when he isn't doing his own job ? And his fitness doesn't set a good example for up and coming players.

His fitness and scoring is poor. But more importantly, he understands this point as well.

Which is why you see him with hands on his hips and dropped shoulders all the time because his negative energy cannot be contained.

Kohli is a better captain than Sarfraz but let’s not go to the other extreme her either. Kohli is scoring runs and that inspires his team. But he’s by no means a Great Captain. Angelo Matthews also led the team with his performance after the departure of Mahela and Sangakarra. Look where how he turned out?

1). His Top Seven are virtually all capable batsmen who can score quickly when needed.

2). He has at his disposal three seamers (with two backup in the squad) who can swing and seam the ball at pace for continuous amounts of times.

3). A spinner who is able to bowl long spells AND keep things tight.

These are distinct advantages that no other team has all together at once. SA have the bowlers, ENG the batsmen, PAK the reverse swing but no one team has all these resources.

Kohli is a good captain who has a chance to become great. He cannot contain his emotions like Sarfraz but the difference is, he directs it towards his opponents and not teammates while channeling them into his batting.

We saw Kohli lead IND to a 1-4 loss against ENG on flatish pitches while Sarfraz drew 1-1 against ENG on greenish pitches. Kohli also blew a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to win a series in SA because he refused to select certain players.

The contrasting dynamics between captain and coach on both sides is hilarious. On the one hand, Kohli’s tank supercedes that of Shastri, who is a buffoon operating as a yes-man. Kohli is the coach of that team, he’s the standard the rest have to live up to.

Sarfraz meanwhile allows Mickey to get his way with strategies he knows are not correct. The one spinner rule against SL being a prime example of someone not learning from their mistakes and hardening his position the more it came into question. Arthur subdues Sarfraz and the latter is at fault in that situation.

To conclude, Kohli is a better captain than Sarfraz because he has better resources, scores runs, and his authority is greater than that of his coach.

 

[Hasan123]

His fitness and scoring is poor. But more importantly, he understands this point as well.

Which is why you see him with hands on his hips and dropped shoulders all the time because his negative energy cannot be contained.

Kohli is a better captain than Sarfraz but let’s not go to the other extreme her either. Kohli is scoring runs and that inspires his team. But he’s by no means a Great Captain.

1). His Top Seven are virtually all capable batsmen who can score quickly when needed.

2). He has at his disposal three seamers (with two backup in the squad) who can swing and seam the ball at pace for continuous amounts of times.

3). A spinner who is able to bowl long spells AND keep things tight.

These are distinct advantages that no other team has all together at once. SA have the bowlers, ENG the batsmen, PAK the reverse swing but no one team has all these resources.

Kohli is a good captain who has a chance to become great. He cannot contain his emotions like Sarfraz but the difference is, he directs it towards his opponents and not teammates while channeling them into his batting.

We saw Kohli lead IND to a 1-4 loss against ENG on flatish pitches while Sarfraz drew 1-1 against ENG on greenish pitches. Kohli also blew a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to win a series in SA because he refused to select certain players.

The contrasting dynamics between captain and coach on both sides is hilarious. On the one hand, Kohli’s tank supercedes that of Shastri, who is a buffoon operating as a yes-man. Kohli is the coach of that team, he’s the standard the rest have to live up to.

Sarfraz meanwhile allows Mickey to get his way with strategies he knows are not correct. The one spinner rule against SL being a prime example of someone not learning from their mistakes and hardening his position the more it came into question. Arthur subdues Sarfraz and the latter is at fault in that situation.

To conclude, Kohli is a better captain than Sarfraz because he has better resources, scores runs, and his authority is greater than that of his coach.

So you need a strong team to compete?

Kane Williamson won a series with Ajaz Patel and Somerville as his spinners . They aren't world class spinners . Yet he found a way to win. Also Nicholls and Jeet Ravel aren't world class players yet they still had success.

Of course you need quality players to do well but I'm sorry with this compairson that isn't the reason why Kohli is the better captain. He motivates and is an inspiration to his team. No one will be motivated by a player who doesn't make the team on merit.

Also this forum tells us our bowling attack is the best in the world, so why can't Sarfraz get more out of them ?

 

[ManFan]

So you need a strong team to compete?

Kane Williamson won a series with Ajaz Patel and Somerville as his spinners . They aren't world class spinners . Yet he found a way to win. Also Nicholls and Jeet Ravel aren't world class players yet they still had success.

Of course you need quality players to do well but I'm sorry with this compairson that isn't the reason why Kohli is the better captain. He motivates and is an inspiration to his team. No one will be motivated by a player who doesn't make the team on merit.

Also this forum tells us our bowling attack is the best in the world, so why can't Sarfraz get more out of them ?

I did not say “strong team” but a list of resources.

It’s the same reason why Australia was so successful from 99-07.

Zimbabwe had an ATG wicketkeeper-batsmen in Andy Flower.

Almost every country had an ATG fast bowler in their hands: Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Srinath, Bond, Flintoff, Steyn, Pollock, Donald, etc.

But no one had an ATG wicketkeeper-batsman, bowler, and batsmen at the same time.

You keep mentioning Kohli and how the major source of his success is him inspiring the team?

He was outscored by Pujara and Rahane in this match.

He won because his batsmen were able to take 60-4 to 250 and his bowers able to garner a slender lead.

Williamson has Taylor and Latham and Southee, Boult, and Wagner. His spinners are mediocore but when you’re bowling last in the UAE, you rarely lose. (As we saw PAK slip to a 4 run loss in the First Test).

 

[Hasan123]

I did not say “strong team” but a list of resources.

It’s the same reason why Australia was so successful from 99-07.

Zimbabwe had an ATG wicketkeeper-batsmen in Andy Flower.

Almost every country had an ATG fast bowler in their hands: Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Srinath, Bond, Flintoff, Steyn, Pollock, Donald, etc.

But no one had an ATG wicketkeeper-batsman, bowler, and batsmen at the same time.

You keep mentioning Kohli and how the major source of his success is him inspiring the team?

He was outscored by Pujara and Rahane in this match.

He won because his batsmen were able to take 60-4 to 250 and his bowers able to garner a slender lead.

Williamson has Taylor and Latham and Southee, Boult, and Wagner. His spinners are mediocore but when you’re bowling last in the UAE, you rarely lose. (As we saw PAK slip to a 4 run loss in the First Test).

So he isn't allowed to score for 1 game ? Have look at his record since he has been captain? If your leader performing at that level doesn't inspire you nothing will.

You can't honestly sit their and say Williamson performing didn't inspire Nicholls even 1 bit. It surely gave him some confidence and inspiration that his captain was leading from the front.

Taylor was throwing his wicket away . Latham didn't have a good series. And Boult isn't always going to be effective in UAE.

 

[ManFan]

So he isn't allowed to score for 1 game ? Have look at his record since he has been captain? If your leader performing at that level doesn't inspire you nothing will.

You can't honestly sit their and say Williamson performing didn't inspire Nicholls even 1 bit. It surely gave him some confidence and inspiration that his captain was leading from the front.

Taylor was throwing his wicket away . Latham didn't have a good series. And Boult isn't always going to be effective in UAE.

His record as captain is better than his overall. He is practically undefeated at home and very competitive abroad hence their number one ranking. No one can and should take that away from him.

My point of contention is you stating that a captain’s performance is the single biggest reason for the team’s success or failure.

And I brought up the example of India’s sixth win in Australia as an example. Of course, a performing captain raises the synergy, coherence, and self-belief of a team more so than a non-performing captain.

But captaincy is such a fine art where a slight turn of the sky can be the difference between victory and defeat.

Mike Breadley is considered the greatest captain to have ever played tactically. He was so brilliant that he was called out of retirement to the 1981 Ashes and it worked!

But he was a horrible batsman and rarely if ever led from the front. He was however a fantastic man-manager with a background in psychology.

A captain can be successful in two ways if he cannot lead from the front:

1). If his strategy is superior than his adversary.

(Sarfraz can be often seen confused and agitated even when NZ was 60-4 where as Williamson was calm even when taking the risk on the morning of Day 5).

2). If he has better resources to out-muscle his adversary.

(Sarfraz has better spinners but much worse batsmen and pacers who could not strike with the new ball than Williamson. A guy like Colin de Garndhomme was out bowling the likes of Abbas and Shaheen).

 

[Hasan123]

His record as captain is better than his overall. He is practically undefeated at home and very competitive abroad hence their number one ranking. No one can and should take that away from him.

My point of contention is you stating that a captain’s performance is the single biggest reason for the team’s success or failure.

And I brought up the example of India’s sixth win in Australia as an example. Of course, a performing captain raises the synergy, coherence, and self-belief of a team more so than a non-performing captain.

But captaincy is such a fine art where a slight turn of the sky can be the difference between victory and defeat.

Mike Breadley is considered the greatest captain to have ever played tactically. He was so brilliant that he was called out of retirement to the 1981 Ashes and it worked!

But he was a horrible batsman and rarely if ever led from the front. He was however a fantastic man-manager with a background in psychology.

A captain can be successful in two ways if he cannot lead from the front:

1). If his strategy is superior than his adversary.

(Sarfraz can be often seen confused and agitated even when NZ was 60-4 where as Williamson was calm even when taking the risk on the morning of Day 5).

2). If he has better resources to out-muscle his adversary.

(Sarfraz has better spinners but much worse batsmen and pacers who could not strike with the new ball than Williamson. A guy like Colin de Garndhomme was out bowling the likes of Abbas and Shaheen).

Ok those are fair points. Leading from the front isn't the only thing that makes a good captain. Of course you need to have some tactics but even as tacticans what has Sarfraz done that makes him a better captain than Kohli lol? We get smashed by every top team under him and rarely compete against them other than CT.

 

[ManFan]

Ok those are fair points. Leading from the front isn't the only thing that makes a good captain. Of course you need to have some tactics but even as tacticans what has Sarfraz done that makes him a better captain than Kohli lol? We get smashed by every top team under him and rarely compete against them other than CT.

Hence my admitting that you were correct on who is the better captain between the two.

 

[Mahee]

undoubtedly sarfraz...with a very weak team he has, he won a test match against mighty NZ at home

 

[TM Riddle]

Kohli isnt a good captain by any stretch. It's just that Sarfi is plain atrocious which makes Virat looks like second coming of Steve Waugh.

 

[jagatk]

Kohli isnt a good captain by any stretch. It's just that Sarfi is plain atrocious which makes Virat looks like second coming of Steve Waugh.

This /thread

 

[Mamoon]

This was always an embarrassingly nonsensical comparison. Also, people should realize that the well-deserved humiliation in the UAE over the last few months has changed nothing.

Even before the reality checks in the UAE, there is not a single team in the world that would have opted for Sarfraz as captain over Kohli.

Pakistan cricket is well beyond the point where you can compare any of our contemporary players to any greats of the game in any capacity.

About time we acknowledge our standing in world cricket and stop running our mouths against far better teams and far better captains.

Sarfraz fans are now hiding behind the excuse that he has a weak team. Well he sure does, but what they fail to mention is that he himself is one of the biggest reasons why this team is weak.

Barring the second Test vs. Australia, his individual performances have been awful, and pretty much all the four Test losses in the UAE under his watch could have been avoided had he performed with the bat.

Hence, he should be the last person in the team to complain about losing games because of having a weak team. All he needs to do is look in the mirror.

On the contrary, Kohli’s legendary batting along with India’s great bowling have been the two biggest factors for India’s rise to the #1 ranking, and why they will rightfully stay there for a long time.

Sarfraz is a poor tactician who is still living of the fluke Champions Trophy where everything went his team way. However, nature is a great leveler and he has been brutally exposed since.

Also, this whole drama of him being the best T20 captain and Pakistan being the best T20 team will be over soon.

Just arrange a series with India anywhere in the world, and it will be as humiliating as the Asia Cup. England are also a much better team notwithstanding the one-off T20 in 2016. If there is a T20 World Cup today anywhere in the world, we will not come close to winning.

 

[abhay]

epic thread!

thanks to op

 

[Sadozai]

both are average captains but Kohli at least doest justifiy his place in team whereas atm sarfaraz doesn't merit place in playing XI in any format

 

[Etherealistic]

Virat is a better captain than Sarfaraz.
Sarfaraz doesn't inspire confidence in his teammates while Kohli does it by leading from the front.

 

[abhay]

of course, it's Sarfaraz. done and dusted!

 

[dravidthewall]

Sarfraz ahmed even though pak lost home series

 

[Reyansh2017]

It's not good to look for who is the best in a worst bunch

 

[MenInG]

No point leading a team of players who cannot bat!

Kohli is leading from the front in his batting so guess he is ahead of the game for now

 

[AMSS]

Not watched sarfaraz enough but it's hard to imagine anyone being more tactically clueless than Kohli.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Sarfraz Is the much better leader he just has a poorer team currently besides being himself out of form but as usual people will kick a man when he’s down.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Virat Kohli leads from the front. Averages 63.26 as captain (45 Tests)
Sarfaraz leads from the pavilion most times . Averages 25.33 as captain (11 Tests)

 

[MRSN]

some really lol-worthy posts in this thread to compare a captain who leads and inspire his team with his own great performances with a guy who can't perform or inspire his team in any way. it just makes me sad as a Pak fan as I always compared my team with the Indian team who seems to be on complete new level yet we have blind fans who back mediocrity in this team.

 

[Hasan123]

some really lol-worthy posts in this thread to compare a captain who leads and inspire his team with his own great performances with a guy who can't perform or inspire his team in any way. it just makes me sad as a Pak fan as I always compared my team with the Indian team who seems to be on complete new level yet we have blind fans who back mediocrity in this team.

Kohli has been good tactically in the series. So they can't even talk about tactics. We have seen Sarfraz tactics in the last few months.

 

[Snak3eye5]

Let’s be honest, can Kohli go with a team from Sarfaraz’s camp and win the World Cup or heck even Ct 2017? That should tell Sarfaraz is way ahead than Kohli will ever be. Kohli is tactically clueless and has half a brain unlike Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz is going through a purple patch which can be turned around. Kohli still has old man Dhoni in his lineup and players like Raydu and Jadhav. That should tell you a lot about Kohlis tactics and why they will lose the World Cup.

 

[ILcricket]

funny

 

[RyanRyan10]

Sarfraz Is the much better leader he just has a poorer team currently besides being himself out of form but as usual people will kick a man when he’s down.

But in the other post u said that Pak have the most talented bunch

 

[a_tahir]

But in the other post u said that Pak have the most talented bunch

Being talented and actually using that talent are too different things.
Pakistan's odi team is not experienced and the people that are supposed to be selected are not being selected.

 

[leatherface58]

Not even including the results, Sarfraz screaming at his players after a mistake like an absolute bogan shows how out of his depth he is at the international level.

Kohli is a very good captain with a tendency to go too defensive sometimes but he can keep it together on the field at least.

 

[gh54785]

Let’s be honest, can Kohli go with a team from Sarfaraz’s camp and win the World Cup or heck even Ct 2017? That should tell Sarfaraz is way ahead than Kohli will ever be. Kohli is tactically clueless and has half a brain unlike Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz is going through a purple patch which can be turned around. Kohli still has old man Dhoni in his lineup and players like Raydu and Jadhav. That should tell you a lot about Kohlis tactics and why they will lose the World Cup.

Unlike Sarfraz, Kohli doesn't allow mediocrity to fester in his camp.

 

[jagatk]

Unlike Sarfraz, Kohli doesn't allow mediocrity to fester in his camp.

Why then have has beens and never will be's like dhoni, kartik etc still make the team.

 

[Ab Fan]

Disgusting comparison given Sarfaraz has non international level players compared to Kohli who has legendary players in the store.

If Sarfarz had a team like Kohli, he would have won test series everywhere in South Africa, England and Australia, not to forget winning the legen-wait for it-dary Champions Trophy as well as the most awaited World Cup coming this year.

 

[fitCricFan]

Another dumb, meaningless thread about who is better than who

 

[unemployedgm]

Threads like these should probably be deleted.

 

[gazza619]

Nice one guys

Just a reminder how opinions change with times.

Who knows Sarfi might take over in 2 years time. Will be a miracle though..

Sarfraz is better tactically

A hard question to answer given Kohli having mentors like Tendulkar/Dhoni etc to play and learn under, whilst Sarfraz pretty much having to be his own man, for Misbah, Azhar and other alike defensive seniors had no advisory aptitude.

Both are equal.

The beauty of Kohli's captaincy is he can rely on himself. The man can win ODI matches all on his own especially while chasing. He's a great motivator too.

Sarfraz is a good tactician. He makes the most of his resources but is a tad overzealous at times. It's okay when you're winning but can become nauseating when you're losing.

Too early to bring up such a comparison. Sarfraz has amazingly had 3 good games as a captain on the trot in an ICC event which has brought this up. At least wait and see 2-3 series before making a judgement.

I do think though that people will not necessarily feel Kohli has a hard time as a captain and will therefore never be rated too highly. His batsmen do pretty much 60% of the job for him.

Sarfi is the better captain. Kohli looks flustered when opposition counterattacks.

Sarfraz is miles ahead. He's a class apart. Leading from the front a team that nobody even rated.That's a big achievement. Kohli is classless gets easily nervous and agitated he's not a leader.

I guess we got the answer today- Sarfaraz completely outsmarted him. Will be interesting to see how Kohli fares when Dhoni retires.

Kohli was awful today and it was clear dhoni took over near the end. Sarfraz is an amazing amazing captain

Sarfraz has a trophy so he is ahead at the moment.

Sarfaraz is much better as a captain, specially his tactics.

Kohli has been disappointing so far. Whenever, the opposition team is dominating, Kohli is clueless.

Sarfraz by absolute MILES.

Sarfraz is ahead for now, better time is to judge at the end of there careers. Kohli has done a good job in tests and his LO record isn't that bad. That defeat in CT final makes people forget about his record.

Be interesting to see how Sarfraz does in tests.

no comparison at all here.. Sarf for me.

 

[Hasan123]

Nice one guys &#55357;&#56397;&#55356;&#57340;

Just a reminder how opinions change with times.

Who knows Sarfi might take over in 2 years time. Will be a miracle though..

Arghh I let 1 win fool me. Kohli is leagues above Sarfraz as a captain. I have always rated Kohli as a captain.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Arghh I let 1 win fool me. Kohli is leagues above Sarfraz as a captain. I have always rated Kohli as a captain.

To be honest your comment was very balanced one. Kudos for not getting carried away

 

[Hasan123]

To be honest your comment was very balanced one. Kudos for not getting carried away

I was wrong. Kohli was always the better captain. Defending 340 made Sarfraz look like a genius tactican when he never was .

 

[SportsWarrior]

I was wrong. Kohli was always the better captain. Defending 340 made Sarfraz look like a genius tactican when he never was .

That is right. I never rated sarfi. Pakistan deserves a better captain. Most of us Indians follow pakistan cricket hoping to see same kind of cricket we saw while growing up. But sarfi is not the captain who will bring back that kind of quality in pak team.

 

[rhony]

Threads like these should probably be deleted.

I second that. It's all subjective isn't it. Winning is usually the only criteria for these threads and a better team wins more often. Both are animated characters and it's entertaining watching them on the field.

 

[Ganju Baba]

This thread has not aged well.

Kohli is a mediocre captain but clearly Sarfaraz is no match for him on any aspect of the game. I don't know, maybe Kohli will excel at wicket keeping too.

Kudos to the PPers who called out Sarfaraz out early despite the CT final tinted glasses majority of the forum was wearing for nearly 2 years.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Sarfraz by absolute MILES.

Only guy who probably still thinks this is true.

 

[latecut]

There are some fans who still maintain that India under Kohli is winning by fluke because they play teams that are very weak.

 

[Hasan123]

That is right. I never rated sarfi. Pakistan deserves a better captain. Most of us Indians follow pakistan cricket hoping to see same kind of cricket we saw while growing up. But sarfi is not the captain who will bring back that kind of quality in pak team.

It wasn't long after the CT that I realised he wasn't the man to take us forward.

Unfortunately I think he will be captain at the WC.

 

[MRSN]

It wasn't long after the CT that I realised he wasn't the man to take us forward.

Unfortunately I think he will be captain at the WC.

Which will be sad. World cup comes every 4 years. Last time it was farewell party for guys like Midbah, Yk and afridi. This time it seems it's farewell party for Sarfraz, Hafeez and Malik.

 

[Hasan123]

Which will be sad. World cup comes every 4 years. Last time it was farewell party for guys like Midbah, Yk and afridi. This time it seems it's farewell party for Sarfraz, Hafeez and Malik.

Malik will be gone after the WC. But I fear Sarfraz and Hafeez may haunt us for a while yet.

 

[abhay]

bump....

 

[Hasan123]

Kohli beating a full strength NZ black and blue. Whilst genius tactican couldn't even win 1 game .