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Was Mohammad Haris justified in his comments on Babar Azam?

Was Mohammad Haris justified in his comments on Babar Azam?

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Mamoon said:
With a SR of 90 across his last 7 T20Is, Pakistani fans would prefer him to walk the talk himself instead of representing the voice of the real fans.
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He was asked a question and he answered it. He has the capability to walk the talk unlike babar mein stadium mein jawab doun gah.
 
Haris is a joke.

Those who think that he will do better at #3 are delusional. Brainless hitting will never work against good teams.
 
AZulfi said:
Haris is a joke.

Those who think that he will do better at #3 are delusional. Brainless hitting will never work against good teams.
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It’s a common rubbish excuse whenever someone’s favorite batsman isn’t performing.
 
Haris reminds me of that old adage about how a monk** given infinite time will eventually type Shakespeare. That’s what we are hoping for here. He will never ever be the reliable finisher Pakistan think he can become and he just doesn’t have the temperament to bat in the top order.
 
And we have clowns on this forum who suggest he is a better cricketer than Rizwan.
Their understanding of the game is as good as a newborn baby
 
amvbfm said:
Haris reminds me of that old adage about how a monk** given infinite time will eventually type Shakespeare. That’s what we are hoping for here. He will never ever be the reliable finisher Pakistan think he can become and he just doesn’t have the temperament to bat in the top order.
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Haha. Admins why has that been edited? I wasn’t calling him one just mentioning the infinite monkey theorem.
 
Hahahaahhah this guy breaks his bat after scoring 1 run..

And he is giving opinions on babar.....
 
Ahmed216 said:
And we have clowns on this forum who suggest he is a better cricketer than Rizwan.
Their understanding of the game is as good as a newborn baby
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You’re going to push Farhan and everyone else down the order to accommodate rizwan?
 
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I like how harris made this statement and than his own performance is also garbage. So now after this tri series they will be discarding this trash for good..

He ended up destroying his own career by giving such a statement. Will be a good riddance
 
Comments maybe not justified, haven’t seen the clip.

Criticism on M Haris is completely justified. No show followed by no show. Agenda merchants not bothered.
 
Haris is a brainless hack who’s now showing that he’s classless as well. I’d still take him over Riz in t20is.
 
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Major said:
I like how harris made this statement and than his own performance is also garbage. So now after this tri series they will be discarding this trash for good..

He ended up destroying his own career by giving such a statement. Will be a good riddance
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it is not just the statement... Statement would have been ignored had he been playing blinders, but so far, he has been the worst player for Pakistan in last almost 9-10 games he has played... Nothing worth showing apart from that 100 in a deadbeat game. His career overall has been mediocre.
 
BouncerGuy said:
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it is not just the statement... Statement would have been ignored had he been playing blinders, but so far, he has been the worst player for Pakistan in last almost 9-10 games he has played... Nothing worth showing apart from that 100 in a deadbeat game. His career overall has been mediocre.
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He is an over rated player, like Imran Nazir was.

He is hyped because he played 1 or 2 innings where he was striking the ball, so some of the fans go gaga over such players, but as you have said, apart from those few games, in majority of the games he has been garbage.

Players like these get a favourable opinion from media and our so called cricket journalist, so they keep getting selected and dropped. But, the statement he gave will haunt him as it made him look stupid.

Its just like how Kamran made a statement that ig he was given 3 chances again, he will prove himself and he turned out to be garbage. Than when Imad wasim called himself the best allrounder in the World T20, and he made Axar Patel look like Shane Warne, or even how Amir also got exposed after talking against Pakistan team and than he got the beating of a life time against USA.

Players often shoot themselves in their foot when they give out statements.
 
Major said:
He is an over rated player, like Imran Nazir was.

He is hyped because he played 1 or 2 innings where he was striking the ball, so some of the fans go gaga over such players, but as you have said, apart from those few games, in majority of the games he has been garbage.

Players like these get a favourable opinion from media and our so called cricket journalist, so they keep getting selected and dropped. But, the statement he gave will haunt him as it made him look stupid.

Its just like how Kamran made a statement that ig he was given 3 chances again, he will prove himself and he turned out to be garbage. Than when Imad wasim called himself the best allrounder in the World T20, and he made Axar Patel look like Shane Warne, or even how Amir also got exposed after talking against Pakistan team and than he got the beating of a life time against USA.

Players often shoot themselves in their foot when they give out statements.
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Yep... Instead of giving statements, he should be thinking about how he is going to play more than 5-10 balls in the game at a strike rate of a modern-day batter, which is how he is being labeled.
 
Slim said:
He was asked a question and he answered it. He has the capability to walk the talk unlike babar mein stadium mein jawab doun gah.
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again.. he is not in team to voice the fans..Fans can voice themselves.. neither he is in team as analyst trying to find out flaws of others. He was asked a question which he did nt have to answer at all. There are lot of ways to dodge it. Im not fan of babar but i'm also not fan of this guy either. He is a walking wicket against any decent bowler
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
again.. he is not in team to voice the fans..Fans can voice themselves.. neither he is in team as analyst trying to find out flaws of others. He was asked a question which he did nt have to answer at all. There are lot of ways to dodge it. Im not fan of babar but i'm also not fan of this guy either. He is a walking wicket against any decent bowler
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Again, he just answered a question he was asked. And its not such a big deal.
 
Rana said:
I would take his potential to bat at 200+sr any day over that destroyed my cricket team for 4 years with their 100sr in the powerplay
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except he cant do that. Scoring hundred on Lahore’s Road is no measure of potential. i have seen enough cricket to know he is not the one. even if tomorrow somehow he scores a rapid fifty.. i would nt put my trust in him as cricket fan. and i want Pak to do well as much as any real Pakistani wants regardless of who is playing and who is not. There is no agenda here. Haris aint good. Thats it
 
Slim said:
He has till Asia cup to prove the naysayers wrong.
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Im not a naysayer.. the ability and Technique is not there for him to succeed. Just having intent is not enough. It needs to be backed up with ability. His stance at crease is vulnerable and any decent bowler can exploit that. He may perform in one match after 10 failures. I guess thats a free pass and he is enjoying it
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Im not a naysayer.. the ability and Technique is not there for him to succeed. Just having intent is not enough. It needs to be backed up with ability. His stance at crease is vulnerable and any decent bowler can exploit that. He may perform in one match after 10 failures. I guess thats a free pass and he is enjoying it
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I personally agree with you, and i never understood his hype. But seems like he got a decent following and hopefully he comes good for our sake.
 
Sachin fan said:
Saim came good, Harris will too, the management backing him will give him confidence.
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Saim is a superior bat than Harris but yes, he still deserves a long run otherwise he will be lamented as being done unfairly if dropped earlier. I must say you are one of the best indian posters on this website.
 
Yall acting like loony toons. Haris said 2 words, he didn't give a speech starting WW3.

Babar should play faster end of story
 
Major said:
He is an over rated player, like Imran Nazir was.
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Imran Nazir was 100x the talent Haris can ever hope to be. He wasted his abilities.

He scored a Test century vs Ambrose and Wash at the age of 19. Haris wouldn’t last one over against those bowlers in Test cricket.

Imran failed to fulfill his potential. Haris on the other has no potential. No talent whatsoever, just a big mouth.

He would be one of the first picks for my all time worst Pakistan XI.
 
Latest delusion: Haris is being played out of position. Play him at 3 and he will do well.

This brainless hack will be a failure at every position. A couple of random fluke knocks don’t mean anything. This drama will also end in tears.

Let’s pick a tried and tested failure like Fakhar at 3 or a brainless slogger like Haris, but let’s keep the best Pakistani number 3 in white ball cricket of the last 15 years out of the team 🤡🤡🤡
 
Basit Ali speaking on his YouTube channel:

"Haris got out to Nabi. My question is, Nabi was brought on specifically to bowl to a left-handed batter, but instead, you get out to him. This shows you have no cricketing sense. You’re playing senseless cricket, just swinging for a six to look like a hero."

"Heroes aren’t born overnight; they are made through hard work. Haris has been handed everything on a platter. When the pitch is tough, the openers step up, but look at what’s happening against Bangladesh, he was batting at six or seven, and the same thing happened here. “

"When a player slips from number six to number seven, it’s clear the coach doesn’t trust him either."
 
Another day

Another sense of renewed realisation

Harris is absolutely correct about Babar

Nothing can change this reality.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Basit Ali speaking on his YouTube channel:

"Haris got out to Nabi. My question is, Nabi was brought on specifically to bowl to a left-handed batter, but instead, you get out to him. This shows you have no cricketing sense. You’re playing senseless cricket, just swinging for a six to look like a hero."

"Heroes aren’t born overnight; they are made through hard work. Haris has been handed everything on a platter. When the pitch is tough, the openers step up, but look at what’s happening against Bangladesh, he was batting at six or seven, and the same thing happened here. “

"When a player slips from number six to number seven, it’s clear the coach doesn’t trust him either."
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Imagine quoting Basit Ali here as an expert but at the same time having an issue with Mohammad Harris’s views :ROFLMAO:
 
Rana said:
Another day

Another sense of renewed realisation

Harris is absolutely correct about Babar

Nothing can change this reality.
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@Rana did you celebrate Pakistan's 152/0 vs India, at least for the national cause, or did you cry in corner?
 
Ball Blazer said:
@Rana did you celebrate Pakistan's 152/0 vs India, at least for the national cause, or did you cry in corner?
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It’s the last time I was genuine happy for Pakistan, until people like you made me feel like a traitor.

So from that day onward, I chose my path. I vowed to make you all suffer.
 
Rana said:
Another day

Another sense of renewed realisation

Harris is absolutely correct about Babar

Nothing can change this reality.
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I just dont get PP 🤣🤣🤣. Imad Wasim I can understand, Imad went on live television to bash Babar endlessly for 1.5 hours straight.

Haris said 2 words 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

How has Haris managed to trigger babar fans more then Imad Wasim ever could 🫤
 
mominsaigol said:
I just dont get PP 🤣🤣🤣. Imad Wasim I can understand, Imad went on live television to bash Babar endlessly for 1.5 hours straight.

Haris said 2 words 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

How has Haris managed to trigger babar fans more then Imad Wasim ever could 🫤
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This is Pakistan cricket

This is why you have to become the hunter or become the hunted.

I will hunt all of these people down. They know it. Right now, it’s their time to play in the sun.
 
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Rana said:
Another day

Another sense of renewed realisation

Harris is absolutely correct about Babar

Nothing can change this reality.
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why do you have to make it about Babar Azam? He is out of team

Haris is playing.. and so far he is completely trash. He is proving that he needs fielding restrictions to have any chance of making runs
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
why do you have to make it about Babar Azam? He is out of team

Haris is playing.. and so far he is completely trash. He is proving that he needs fielding restrictions to have any chance of making runs
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Why do I have to make it about Babar Azam? Are you seriously asking this question? What is the thread title and OP?
 
These can be the next 5 scores of Mohammad Harris:
0 (1)
0 (1)
0 (1)
0 (1)
0 (1)


But it still will not change the reality that he stated. “Babar Azam needs to improve in T20. Babar Azam needs to bat faster”.

Deal with it.
 
Rana said:
These can be the next 5 scores of Mohammad Harris:
0 (1)
0 (1)
0 (1)
0 (1)
0 (1)


But it still will not change the reality that he stated. “Babar Azam needs to improve in T20. Babar Azam needs to bat faster”.

Deal with it.
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there is another reality..

M Haris needs to be booted out and Improve his game as well .. He does nt look like proper cricketer let alone weak T20 batter
 
Rana said:
Why do I have to make it about Babar Azam? Are you seriously asking this question? What is the thread title and OP?
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we all know how bad Babar Azam is in T20.. He did nt need to inform us about it.

He is not in team to tell us Truth Gospels. As a cricket fan , My suggestion to him is , Shut your mouth and talk with Bat
 
Average of Haris so far:

15.64 - International Cricket
10.4 - Outside Pakistan
7.60 - against Afghanistan
6.50 - in UAE

How is he considered a SPECIALIST BATTER with these numbers?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Average of Haris so far:

15.64 - International Cricket
10.4 - Outside Pakistan
7.60 - against Afghanistan
6.50 - in UAE

How is he considered a SPECIALIST BATTER with these numbers?
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looks completely clueless against quality spin on slow tracks , Even if he bats up

People say his actual number is 3.. Well he did bat at 3 against BD T20Is .. He failed miserably in all three. It got progressively worse . In third T20I where Farhan Mauled BD spinners , This guy Scored 5 runs of 14 Balls SR 35
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
looks completely clueless against quality spin on slow tracks , Even if he bats up

People say his actual number is 3.. Well he did bat at 3 against BD T20Is .. He failed miserably in all three. It got progressively worse . In third T20I where Farhan Mauled BD spinners , This guy Scored 5 runs of 14 Balls SR 35
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Bro, spitting facts against any player apart from Rizwan and babar is a crime... you should not expose other players... Please
 
BouncerGuy said:
Bro, spitting facts against any player apart from Rizwan and babar is a crime... you should not expose other players... Please
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Yeah cause avg 28 and 161 SR at no 3 is apprantely a lie.

God knows why cricinfo and howstat are doctoring stats bro. Someone should sue these sites for spreading misinformation.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yeah cause avg 28 and 161 SR at no 3 is apprantely a lie.

God knows why cricinfo and howstat are doctoring stats bro. Someone should sue these sites for spreading misinformation.
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His stats are 3 are awful too if you take out that 100 against Bangladesh.

He barely looks like a batter, was clueless playing spin against Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

It’s easy to decode Haris, he is only half-decent on flat pitches that’s it. He can give you quick 20-25 runs in the powerplay, but any other track he is literally useless.
 
Usman Chadda said:
His stats are 3 are awful too if you take out that 100 against Bangladesh.

He barely looks like a batter, was clueless playing spin against Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

It’s easy to decode Haris, he is only half-decent on flat pitches that’s it. He can give you quick 20-25 runs in the powerplay, but any other track he is literally useless.
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so that Hundred on Lahore Road is haunting us
 
mominsaigol said:
I just dont get PP 🤣🤣🤣. Imad Wasim I can understand, Imad went on live television to bash Babar endlessly for 1.5 hours straight.

Haris said 2 words 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

How has Haris managed to trigger babar fans more then Imad Wasim ever could 🫤
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Huge difference between Imad, someone who has performed consistently for Pakistan over the years, and Haris, who to be fair to him might one day be good enough for the second elevens in a village team somewhere. People can respect Imad's opinions but Haris needs to just keep quiet and hope no one realises he's not an international cricketer.
 
Guy is 5'4" with weak muscles. I am not sure how he can be a power hitter. He may probably use the pace of bowlers. He looks like yuzi chahal. waste of investment.
 
mominsaigol said:
I feel like many posters here have misunderstood what I said so let me clarify

@Wasim Ghulam @Usman Chadda @BouncerGuy

Haris is a hack yes. But I wanna see him bat at no 3. The Bangladesh 100 was good and my gut feeling is that he'll outperform fakhar at that no
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You are still adamant on climbing that Haris hill.

He is a hack. And, he has no talent to play at international level. If you swing hard and often enough, you might connect one or two but thats not talent, it's law of averages.
 
IronShield said:
You are still adamant on climbing that Haris hill.

He is a hack. And, he has no talent to play at international level. If you swing hard and often enough, you might connect one or two but thats not talent, it's law of averages.
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BouncerGuy said:
That is why I want fakhar to get rested and let haris play at 3 against a minnow team.
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Yes I am an adamant, yes I am stubborn. I acknowledge that and I admit it.

That does not mean I am completly wrong and dont have one angle to voice my argument upon.
 
I will repeat myself again and again.

Haris at no 3, avg 28 and sr 161. End of story.

People who are asking me to remove his 100 are the one's being disingenuous lol. Why should I remove an innings just to suit your agenda 🤣🤣🤣?

The truth of the matter is that with the exception of @Wasim Ghulam who i have utmost respect for as a poster and tbh his comments are the only ones that I have read on this matter and taken seriously

Everyone else besides him has argued against haris not due to stats, but due to politics so you can spare me this mumbo jumbo wannabe analyst drama.

Idc about Politics. I want Haris to bat at 3 as I believe thats his best no and despite only 3 solid performances.

2 of those came in wc 2022 leading to our entry into the semi final despite 2 horrific botches vs India and Zimbabwe.

The other was one of the best 100's in have ever seen in a t20 international. The team doesnt matter. Understand how difficult it is to score a 100 with only 4 dot balls played regardless of pitch and conditons.
 
Fakhar at number 4 25.33 avg and 156.1 strike rate.. end of story...
 
mominsaigol said:
Ik right? Almost like I'm advocating for fakhar at 4 and haris at 3?

And lol, people copying my text style(End of story) and using it against me. :virat.

Anyway nice try, but I win.
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I dont see you advocating for Fakhar at number 4 even though he had a great record at that number but Haris somehow gets special treatment... Your love for hacks is out of this world
 
BouncerGuy said:
I dont see you advocating for Fakhar at number 4 even though he had a great record at that number but Haris somehow gets special treatment... Your love for hacks is out of this world
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Ig John Cena must have hacked my account. You cant see me. BTW I have like 5 more ss of earlier dates as well. But I dont think you're the type to deny evidence so 1 ss is enough.

Hope you're happy.
 
Although I am a Babar supporter, I see no issue with what Haris has brought up. In the Western world, feedback works both ways, and it is an essential part of our annual review and assessment process.

It's important to recognise that both seniors and juniors have valuable insights to share with each other.
 
mominsaigol said:
I will repeat myself again and again.

Haris at no 3, avg 28 and sr 161. End of story.

People who are asking me to remove his 100 are the one's being disingenuous lol. Why should I remove an innings just to suit your agenda 🤣🤣🤣?

The truth of the matter is that with the exception of @Wasim Ghulam who i have utmost respect for as a poster and tbh his comments are the only ones that I have read on this matter and taken seriously

Everyone else besides him has argued against haris not due to stats, but due to politics so you can spare me this mumbo jumbo wannabe analyst drama.

Idc about Politics. I want Haris to bat at 3 as I believe thats his best no and despite only 3 solid performances.

2 of those came in wc 2022 leading to our entry into the semi final despite 2 horrific botches vs India and Zimbabwe.

The other was one of the best 100's in have ever seen in a t20 international. The team doesnt matter. Understand how difficult it is to score a 100 with only 4 dot balls played regardless of pitch and conditons.
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"Haris at no 3, avg 28 and sr 161. End of story."

Strike rate is not 161, it's 117. 28 average is inflated due to not out.

He's had 10 innings at 3

Average = 28
Sr = 117

Now if you remove that one 100, and compare the other 9 innings:

Average = 16
Sr = 105

I would suggest that the other 9 times batting at 3 are closer to true reflection of his ability, which itself is inflated as he is in rapid decline as people know where to bowl to him and where to place the fields.
 
IronShield said:
"Haris at no 3, avg 28 and sr 161. End of story."

Strike rate is not 161, it's 117. 28 average is inflated due to not out.

He's had 10 innings at 3

Average = 28
Sr = 117

Now if you remove that one 100, and compare the other 9 innings:

Average = 16
Sr = 105

I would suggest that the other 9 times batting at 3 are closer to true reflection of his ability, which itself is inflated as he is in rapid decline as people know where to bowl to him and where to place the fields.
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🤡 Moment. Was 100 not made by M Haris?
 
IronShield said:
"Haris at no 3, avg 28 and sr 161. End of story."

Strike rate is not 161, it's 117. 28 average is inflated due to not out.

He's had 10 innings at 3

Average = 28
Sr = 117

Now if you remove that one 100, and compare the other 9 innings:

Average = 16
Sr = 105

I would suggest that the other 9 times batting at 3 are closer to true reflection of his ability, which itself is inflated as he is in rapid decline as people know where to bowl to him and where to place the fields.
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Where did you get 117 from?

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^^ This is MH on howstat lol. Cricinfo states the same? And I checked just now? I can fetch cricinfo ss as well?
 
Haris performed
IronShield said:
"Haris at no 3, avg 28 and sr 161. End of story."

Strike rate is not 161, it's 117. 28 average is inflated due to not out.

He's had 10 innings at 3

Average = 28
Sr = 117

Now if you remove that one 100, and compare the other 9 innings:

Average = 16
Sr = 105

I would suggest that the other 9 times batting at 3 are closer to true reflection of his ability, which itself is inflated as he is in rapid decline as people know where to bowl to him and where to place the fields.
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so it was all based on a lie that he strikes at 161?
 
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