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Was the ICC T20 World Cup 2021 final the worst ever?

Raja Ishtiaq

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I think so.

Final was crying out for Pakistan who deserved to be there in the place of NZ.

They would have made it close atleast.
 
win-toss-win-match World cup....worst ever...no matter how much you score batting first, you will lose.
 
That would be the 2013 CT final.

A T20 shootout by 2 ODI teams.
 
It was a good contest until Marsh and Warner put NZ's paltry bowling to the sword. Sodhi in particular was absolutely shocking. Australia were way too dominant with the bat today.
 
I think so.

Final was crying out for Pakistan who deserved to be there in the place of NZ.

They would have made it close atleast.

Lol Pakistan most likely would've capitulated in that first innings. New Zealand at least made a decent score.
 
Always a terrible day for the world when Australia win.

Disappointing to see.
 
OP should understand that Aus and New Zealand Fans aren't in the Middle east countries generally..they are well settled in their own countries..

If you compare pakistan, indian,Afghanistan even Bangladesh working population is quite in Numbers..its so basic...

And by the way..everyone knows that Australia will be crushing New Zealand..

Borest game of tournament.
 
Is it finals?

Seems like most matches are decided based on the toss.
 
Lol Pakistan most likely would've capitulated in that first innings. New Zealand at least made a decent score.

I guess you were unconscious during the semi final, the 10 wicket loss must’ve really knocked your lights out.
 
Also, Aus-NZ finals are not very attractive. Even if we leave toss aside, NZ seems to freeze against Aus.

Having said that, the stadium would have been full if the final was played in one of the major countries. UAE in the middle of the pandemic leaves only fans who are in UAE and I am not sure those fans wanted to see the Aus-NZ final.
 
I guess you were unconscious during the semi final, the 10 wicket loss must’ve really knocked your lights out.

The match that you lost with an over to spare? Yeah, I watched it and you would've lost by an even bigger margin considering it's the final.
 
Not particularly embarrassing. And the attendance is certainly over 30%.

it’s one of the most prestigious days in the cricketing calendar, and it was watched in person by the equivalent of 2 men and a dog, in a funereal atmosphere…

on what planet is that not pitifully embarassing?

fear not though, the legacy will be arab kids taking up the game in their droves ��
 
it’s one of the most prestigious days in the cricketing calendar, and it was watched in person by the equivalent of 2 men and a dog, in a funereal atmosphere…

on what planet is that not pitifully embarassing?

fear not though, the legacy will be arab kids taking up the game in their droves ��

I was clear in my post - it would have been embarrassing had this been played in Pakistan/India/Australia with less than 30% attendance.
 
Poor atmosphere, one-sided match.

Not a great showpiece for cricket was it.

But Australia were very commanding apart from a few overs in the NZ innings at the end.
 
1999 final was the worst ever. It still holds the World Cup record for a chasing team finishing off their target with so many overs still left.
 
Pakistan are good against teams like New Zealand and England. So, it would have been better had they played against those two teams.

However, against a team like Australia, it would have been even worse. Absolute massacre.

Australians are invincible team and to beat them, you have to be extremely special and a mentally tough team like the great Indian team of 2007 in Semi Final were or the Indian team of 2011 in Quarter Final or the Indian test team of 2020. You have to be extremely tough.
 
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2014 World T20 final was much worse. I think it was the worst.

2021 World T20 final was a bit boring though. I agree.
 
Poor atmosphere, one-sided match.

Not a great showpiece for cricket was it.

But Australia were very commanding apart from a few overs in the NZ innings at the end.

Besides the India and Pakistan matches, attendance was horrible throughout the world cup so not surprised at today's attendance.
If a tournament has to be played, it's got to be either England, India or Australia hosting it.

In terms of worst final, that has got to go to CWC 2007. Where Aus decided to massacre Sri Lanka on a very very literally dark day infront of a drab "crowd" in the West Indies.
 
The match that you lost with an over to spare? Yeah, I watched it and you would've lost by an even bigger margin considering it's the final.

Go read your original post. “Pakistan would’ve capitulated in the first innings” even though they scored the exact same as NZ, even a bit more in the first innings. Pressure was the same more or less, it was a semi final not a dead rubber.
 
The best tournaments are the ones with round robin format. 1992, 2019.

This Super 6 group malarky is sheer nonsense.
 
Nature of the format. Anybody can win on a given day. Australia rarely plays as a team in bilaterals. It wook a while for them to gel. They just had to last that much longer. A powerful unit like England should have scored like 190 to 200 against NZ. Most of the teams scored under 190 batting first.
 
Looks like we can confirm one thing:

No Pakistan= No mazaa (fun)

Crowd didn't care at all and wanted to see the men in green out there!
 
I won't say it is the worst ever. It looked like that until Kane Williamson exploded. They also nailed Finch very early. Let us not take away the brilliance of Marsh who took the game by the scruff of its neck. Even Warner was going at less strike rate. Every time there was a lull Marsh provided the momentum. Imagine smith in that position. NZ might have won.
 
If it wasn't for Williamson the match would have been over much quicker.

I think outclassed would be the right phrase.
 
UAE is the worst venue to host cricket. Unless if it's India vs Pakistan. Or at least one of India or Pakistan in the final(second best scenario). Otherwise its just gets so dull.

Compare that to the finals being played at Lords, MCG, Johannesburg (first indo-pak T20 final) or Mumbai.

Couldn't hear the crowd at all.
 
Two nail biting Semi Finals but one sided Final. Pakistan lost badly in the world cup final in 1999 against the same team though.
 
Batting 2nd was too advantageous in this tournament.

I was a bit sceptical during the start of it on how much of factor this would be but it’s proved to be almost critical.

We want the sport to be competitive, shouldn’t be decided on what the side the coin lands. But I don’t know if the organisers would have known this would have been the case.

We have to shrug and move on.
 
Its NOT the worst T20 final even. England vs Australia in 2010 and India vs Sri Lanka 2014 were much more boring.
 
Go read your original post. “Pakistan would’ve capitulated in the first innings” even though they scored the exact same as NZ, even a bit more in the first innings. Pressure was the same more or less, it was a semi final not a dead rubber.

Lol the pressure of a final is a lot more than that of a semifinal. Even more so for Pakistan considering it's in UAE and they would've been surrounded by their fans from the hotel to the stadium and everywhere in between wanting them to win. They wouldn't have been able to handle the pressure and Australia would've excelled in it.

The only team who could've given Australia a run for their money is England.
 
Probably the worst ever.

No crowd to care and the dew made 90% of games over at the toss.

Is dew such a problem in IPL?

Maybe they honestly need to split the innings up 10x10x10x10
 
The whole tournament was a sham. The crowds, the wickets, dew , toss lottery, the stupid djs/announcers, awful commentary (barring a few)....

Just hope UAE never gets to host another ICC event again.
 
Don't think the nature of the match was materially different to the 2009, 2010, or 2014 T20 World Cup finals, all of which were one-sided to various degrees.

Furthermore, can't really blame the ICC or the BCCI for hosting the tournament in the UAE given the background behind the shift of venue.
 
Probably the worst ever.

No crowd to care and the dew made 90% of games over at the toss.

Is dew such a problem in IPL?

Maybe they honestly need to split the innings up 10x10x10x10

I don't think there was too much dew in all matches, but the ball skids and comes on bat nicely in the second inning. I normally don't watch T20, but caught some games. I think shifting the time to daytime would have made it more interesting.
 
Lol the pressure of a final is a lot more than that of a semifinal. Even more so for Pakistan considering it's in UAE and they would've been surrounded by their fans from the hotel to the stadium and everywhere in between wanting them to win. They wouldn't have been able to handle the pressure and Australia would've excelled in it.

The only team who could've given Australia a run for their money is England.

Home crowd, home field etc- all those things are what any team wants when playing. You’d want support from your home crowd and conditions you’re used to. Any team would rather be surrounded by fans and support than the reverse.

Pakistan has closed out more finals than NZ- which again, the way you talked about them in your first post made it sound like they were masters of closing out finals and winning trophies.
 
The whole tournament was a sham. The crowds, the wickets, dew , toss lottery, the stupid djs/announcers, awful commentary (barring a few)....

Just hope UAE never gets to host another ICC event again.

With UAE we never have to worry about weather though....no Duckworth Lewis...nothing. That is a positive. They just need to schedule the matches in day time to avoid dew.
 
The final was enjoyable - Kane Williamson dismantling Starc plus the Warner & Marsh Batting was top tier cricket.

There was also a bit of an emotional element to it, i.e the redemption of Warner, Marsh finally repaying the faith and New Zealand, unfortunately, losing again.
 
Tbh the semi finals were stellar 5* T20 matches but the final was a huge let down.

An Asian team had to be in the final for it to be successful. SENA teams have poor following outside of their countries.
 
The final was enjoyable - Kane Williamson dismantling Starc plus the Warner & Marsh Batting was top tier cricket.

There was also a bit of an emotional element to it, i.e the redemption of Warner, Marsh finally repaying the faith and New Zealand, unfortunately, losing again.

Agree with the Warner part especially - extraordinary comeback given the sort of brickbats he faced. The Australian dressing room must be one strong cohesive unit. Also egg on the face of SRH. Watson indirectly mentioned that Warner needs a very strong supportive environment for him to thrive and it was clear SRH clearly did not stand by its most famous foreign import.

Anyway this is about this World Cup and I was absolutely thrilled to see how Warner hit back especially in the knock out games.
 
I actually fell asleep for a bit near the end. Aussies have showed at the right time what a ferocious batting unit they are.

I also noticed when Asif Ali was running for the catch, he doesn't really look like an athlete, almost as if its some chubby guy off the street.

But all these Aussie players are toned and got great physiques helping with their all over brute power.
 
I don't get what people get out of watching other teams play. I am sure it was a great final for Aus and NZ.
 
Disagree.

Not just the final, but the entire tournament proved once again what an exciting place the UAE is to play any form of cricket. Thanks to the BCCI for this experience.
 
Lol Pakistan most likely would've capitulated in that first innings. New Zealand at least made a decent score.

lol what? Did you even watch the semi? Pakistan scored more than NZ on that same wicket :)) Pakistan would've scored the same if not more and Pakistan's bowling would've done a much better job, we were close to winning on Thursday if it weren't for a dropped catch and missed run outs :))
 
The whole tournament was a sham. The crowds, the wickets, dew , toss lottery, the stupid djs/announcers, awful commentary (barring a few)....

Just hope UAE never gets to host another ICC event again.

Tbf can't really blame the UAE, they just provided the stadiums but the organizing and host was done by the BCCI and ICC, this was a home event for the BCCI and they got paid a large amount of money from the ICC for every match played, they probably just payed the UAE for renting the stadium and obviously the short term economic boost of hosting a world event.
 
T20 WC final should be a best of three games.
They used to have it in the Benson and Hedges ODI
ODI series in Australia.

It’s much more feasible to do it in T20 instead of ODI’s.
 
I actually fell asleep for a bit near the end. Aussies have showed at the right time what a ferocious batting unit they are.

I also noticed when Asif Ali was running for the catch, he doesn't really look like an athlete, almost as if its some chubby guy off the street.

But all these Aussie players are toned and got great physiques helping with their all over brute power.

It's getting harder and harder in Oz to even get a FC contract if you don't take the "athlete" part seriously. We've had some talented players pushed out (Cosgrove one I can name) because they couldn't get fit.

Huge advantage in facilities and fitness knowledge/coaches being easy/widespread in almost every community though to start from.
 
First Innings was decent, but the second innings destroyed the match, that was pathetic from the New Zealand Bowlers, except Boult. A horrible final.
 
It's getting harder and harder in Oz to even get a FC contract if you don't take the "athlete" part seriously. We've had some talented players pushed out (Cosgrove one I can name) because they couldn't get fit.

Huge advantage in facilities and fitness knowledge/coaches being easy/widespread in almost every community though to start from.

Not sure about Australia but the general fitness level and athleticism starts at the school level here in United States. It is VERY WELL organized multi billion dollar industry.
Many, many and many white and other American parents are more focused on their kids sporting activities rather than pushing them to become book worms and become doctors and engineers.

You will notice, groups and groups of middle and high schoolers jogging and running on sidewalks in after school hours and over the weekends.

Ranging anywhere from 10 to 18, they look super fit, agile, lean and strong.

I think the mindset of the parents is that there are lots of safety nets provided by the govt, society and tax money where the kid will make a decent living without worrying about becoming a doctor or an engineer, but to stay fit and healthy is in one’s own hands - health is wealth is the moto.
Go to a beech and compare the physique of many white American male with a desi - and they belly size will tell you the story.

Such mindset does not exist in the third world.
There is hardly any focus on health and fitness in our schools.
It’s all about after school tuitions, and ratta maari, and exam passing to get a job to survive in the tough socio economic conditions.
Some make it, others fail. Some can’t even make it to college.
And many of these school kick outs then become sorta “lofars” and play in streets - some of them, then make it to the national team.
 
That would be the 2013 CT final.

A T20 shootout by 2 ODI teams.

Haha yes I remember that, oh the ICC and their rules.

Anyway, as for this match, it was not quite the worst final to a major tournament but it may be up there. NZ nor Aus were the best teams in the tournament, as odd as that may sound. That honour goes to Pak and Eng. So the toss became far too important. It's a shame as this was cricket's first global showcase. At least the tournament had some memorable moments:

Pak's utter calm and destruction of India (the horror lives on)
Buttler's century
Shaheen's new ball spells
Shadab's resurgence
Eng v SA as possible match of the tournament
Mitchell's innings as one of the very best in a T20 match
 
Should have been a Pakistan v India final.

Hopefully next year in Aus but would have been better in Dubai.
 
I guess all the WC finals including Australia were boring and one sided except for 87 WC
 
87 final was boring as well. Should have been Pakistan v India.

I was saying from the perspective that England were in the game till last over and lost only by 7 runs where as in other finals teams were out of the game from the start
 
Nope, New Zealand made a good total. Cummings like he did against Pakistan bowled brilliantly to keep the score in check. However Australia showed their dominance. Similar to the 1999 finals when Pakistan suspiciously played a heap of crap after playing so well.
 
To be fair to NZ, I think Australia would have demolished any opposition yesterday.
 
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