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A video is going viral where Virat gave two shirts to Babar. Many fans and even Waseem Akram said that this could had been done behind not in public as the defeat was very big that it doesnt look good.

Do you guys agree.
 
Should have been done behind closed doors vs ANY team in such a bad loss. Agreed.

More so vs India.

It's not criminal. Its just not a good look under the circumstances. Trivialises the loss.
 
This Pakistani team is a fan of Rohit and Kohli. They are overly friendly, and I have seen Kohli trolling Babar and Rizwan during Pakistan's batting. He constantly taunted both by looking at an imaginary wristwatch on his hand, reminding them to hurry up. How many shirts will they collect from Kohli, and what will they do? You are here to play cricket and win, not to collect items from your idol players. This over-friendliness will kill any remaining hope of producing good results.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Kohli should have given his underpants as most of our team appeared to have soiled themselves when batting.
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The worst thing about this that Virat didn’t give his jersey willfully. Babar had asked him to give it.

I agree with @Major, this is an embarrassing & pathetic display after a loss.

Go huddle with your team like a man!!! Stop chasing after the opposing team’s players!!!
 
pillionrider said:
This is how we felt when Kohli acted like a clown laughing and joking with Malik and others after losing the CT final.
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Final means that it’s the end of the tournament. There’s no urge to have a team meeting & group discussion as there aren’t any more upcoming matches in the tournament.

Completely different situation here.

Also, Kohli wasn’t asking for any jerseys and acting like fanboy. Kohli and Malik are genuine friends who have 10+ years of history.
 
Non issue as far Indian point of view is concerned. I actually like that they did it in public, more public gestures like this between the two countries, and we might see relations normalizing again.
 
Pathetic from Captain Dosti Yaari... is he there to play a WC or on paid vacation?


This useless captain needs to be stripped of the title. I'm glad this WC has helped shatter his fake image of a world class batter. Nothing more than a minnow basher and king of impactless runs just playing for personal milestones.
 
It will be good if he learns something Alpha from the Limited Overs GOAT player.
 
Its not actually looked like a world cup match it was more like a friendly match.

Wasim has a point, why not engage in these friendly gestures within the dressing room instead of always putting on a show?
 
Imagine being a Pakistan cricket fan and paying mega buck$$$ just to watch your team laugh with the opposition after a humiliating loss.

They don’t care about winning, it’s as if they’ve gone there to make friends.

Babar needs to be sacked as captain, let him enjoy the last 7 years of his career as a batsman.
 
I remember when Kohli was having a laugh with the Pakistan team just before the CT17 winners presentation and he got a lot of grief from Indians fans, but Pakistan fans respected him more for it.
 
Babar is a very emotional dude. This reflects both with his very ostentatious fanboy / elder brother attitude towards Rohit/Kohli and also towards his favourite mates in his team.

He needs to realize that this sort of behavior shows him in a light of having inferiority complex to the outside world.

He needs to think inwardly that he is as good as them, even if in reality he may not be. You become what you think of yourself as.
 
I dont think that was a fanboy moment. kohli is clearly showing him something on the shirt, maybe signatures or so? Either way I don't see any issues. People forget there are rivalries just as big in football, several actually and shirts are often exchanged.
 
pillionrider said:
This is how we felt when Kohli acted like a clown laughing and joking with Malik and others after losing the CT final.
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Does anyone find the bromance between Kohli and Pak cricketers a bit over the top ? I feel like its almost a put on. Not hating on Kohli, (he is once in a generation, legendary batsman) but I never saw any Indian cricketer being this friendly with Pakistanis. So I find it a bit weird.
 
Sums up the team under Babar, no aggression, just an inferiority complex against the Indians. I honestly think they are not that bothered losing against India as us fans our.

They got humiliated by India in the Asia Cup and this was the next match to get revenge. But they actually played worse than the Asia Cup defeat!
 
It’s bad enough the pleasure they get out of beating us without this after a huge defeat
 
adi_62941 said:
This Pakistani team is a fan of Rohit and Kohli. They are overly friendly, and I have seen Kohli trolling Babar and Rizwan during Pakistan's batting. He constantly taunted both by looking at an imaginary wristwatch on his hand, reminding them to hurry up. How many shirts will they collect from Kohli, and what will they do? You are here to play cricket and win, not to collect items from your idol players. This over-friendliness will kill any remaining hope of producing good results.
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The entire squad is a fanclub for fab 4 + Rohit,Warner. Whenever they face these guys it becomes evident. If they were allowed they would have even kissed their idols too infront of the entire world. I can understand why guys like Akram, Moin etc would be frustrated by this. Bunch of immature manchilds represent the current team.
 
adi_62941 said:
This Pakistani team is a fan of Rohit and Kohli. They are overly friendly, and I have seen Kohli trolling Babar and Rizwan during Pakistan's batting. He constantly taunted both by looking at an imaginary wristwatch on his hand, reminding them to hurry up. How many shirts will they collect from Kohli, and what will they do? You are here to play cricket and win, not to collect items from your idol players. This over-friendliness will kill any remaining hope of producing good results.
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It was Rizwan only getting trolled

He is a serial time waster
 
Theirs nothing wrong with kohli and Babar being friends as long as the lines between dosti yaar and competiton doesn't get blurred.

Me and my best friend competed in a school spelling B competiton when we were kids, and his team won, my team came 3rd, but we made damn sure to try our hardest. Their was no dosti yaari at that moment, my goal was to crush him. We could play video games after the competition was over lol.

This feels more like babar accepting kohli as his master 😂😂. Except kohli doesn't accept the student lol.
 
Anupam said:
Does anyone find the bromance between Kohli and Pak cricketers a bit over the top ? I feel like its almost a put on. Not hating on Kohli, (he is once in a generation, legendary batsman) but I never saw any Indian cricketer being this friendly with Pakistanis. So I find it a bit weird.
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We were used to India-Pak games being extremely intense during the Tendulkar-Ganguly era. So while they seemed civil on the field, you hardly saw them smiling at each other or being friendly. For example, when Pak came to India (the famous Chennai test tour), Wasim gifted Sachin something on the field before a game. But there was never a moment where Wasim beat Sachin with a good ball and the two would then smile at each other.

So it took a while for us to get used to it too, and can't say all of us enjoyed this, as we preferred the game on the field to be intense and serious. Because we were serious about it.

Kohli is a narcissistic, vain individual. It is what has driven him to scale success to unprecedented heights at times. He started off being intense in Pak games but when he saw their fans and some players admiring him, he started to reciprocate the feelings. You have to remember that Sachin might have been respected or feared by Pakistanis. But they never displayed overtly, the love they have always shown for Virat.

There is also a genetic cultural connection, as the Kohlis were a tribe that migrated from regions now in Pakistan.
 
Time and time again they have been doing this Rizwan having gossips with Rahul after being humiliated in match . Babar asking for shirt . Absolutely shameless . This attitude will never make you a champion team . Absolutely no fire or regret . Behaving like indias fan boys .
 
ArabKnight said:
The worst thing about this that Virat didn’t give his jersey willfully. Babar had asked him to give it.

I agree with @Major, this is an embarrassing & pathetic display after a loss.

Go huddle with your team like a man!!! Stop chasing after the
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ArabKnight said:
The worst thing about this that Virat didn’t give his jersey willfully. Babar had asked him to give it.

I agree with @Major, this is an embarrassing & pathetic display after a loss.

Go huddle with your team like a man!!! Stop chasing after the opposing team’s players!!!
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Babar asked jersey to Virat because he thinks if he bats wearing those he could get more support in Pakistan
 
ArabKnight said:
Final means that it’s the end of the tournament. There’s no urge to have a team meeting & group discussion as there aren’t any more upcoming matches in the tournament.

Completely different situation here.

Also, Kohli wasn’t asking for any jerseys and acting like fanboy. Kohli and Malik are genuine friends who have 10+ years of history.
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its the same only. its all kohli, he believes this is some kind of family get together.
as far as the jersey is concerned babar must have promised his younger cousins in the family to bring kohli jerseys :)

times have changed., political and economical scenarios have changed. pakistan is seriously struggling and india as a nation is miles ahead. this reality is reflecting in cricket as well.
 
Totally agree with Wasim. These are high profile matches and being in awe of opponents (no matter how big their stature is) is a sure shot way of losing the match.
 
Anupam said:
Does anyone find the bromance between Kohli and Pak cricketers a bit over the top ? I feel like its almost a put on. Not hating on Kohli, (he is once in a generation, legendary batsman) but I never saw any Indian cricketer being this friendly with Pakistanis. So I find it a bit weird.
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Kohli has realized that he can attract a lot of liberal left ad dollars by being friendly with Pakistanis. He wil also collect Hindu right dollars by posting pictures from temples. He is a genuinely friendly guy but yes it's a bit over the top because of the above reasons.
 
Babar and Kohli have perhaps known each other for the last 7 years. 7 years is a long time to give advice to someone. It is on record that one of the advices Kohli gave Babar in 2017 was to make your practice habits, routines as tough as possible and to mimic real match conditions as what you train and practice for is what you produce out in the middle.

Sadly Babar's game has regressed badly in the last year. One can argue the pressure of the captaincy could be a factor as even Tendulkar's game suffered because of the captaincy and he thrived as a batsman again once he gave up the captaincy. I am hoping that this tournament is Babar's final assignment as captain so that he can focus on his own game as a player.
 
Savak said:
Babar and Kohli have perhaps known each other for the last 7 years. 7 years is a long time to give advice to someone. It is on record that one of the advices Kohli gave Babar in 2017 was to make your practice habits, routines as tough as possible and to mimic real match conditions as what you train and practice for is what you produce out in the middle.

Sadly Babar's game has regressed badly in the last year. One can argue the pressure of the captaincy could be a factor as even Tendulkar's game suffered because of the captaincy and he thrived as a batsman again once he gave up the captaincy. I am hoping that this tournament is Babar's final assignment as captain so that he can focus on his own game as a player.
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Babar can’t be used as an analogy to Tendulkar. He’s more of a Cheteshwar Pujara type of player.
 
Respect to both. I did not have a problem with Kohli relaxing with Pakistani players on 2017 and I do not have a problem now.

Sports rivalry is good and India Pakistan is among my favourites.

But there’s more to life than feeling hurt over a public post match interaction.

Also, Kohli and Babar have done more for attempting to create an atmosphere of harmony between the two intense rival nations than tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions, combined.

So that’s good .
 
I don't think that there is anything wrong with admiring the other players on the field or off the field. Virat Kohli is a sensational players and the whole world knows that while Babar is on his way to be one of the best players to ever play for Pakistan. Correct me if i am wrong.
 
people are making it a big deal. It could be that Babar took kohlis signed t-shirt for one of his close family members or friends who might have asked.

I watched in inza-mam-ul-haq's show about inzy and moin khan meeting azaruddin in private (who is their childhood hero) prior to 1992 world cup.
 
Asif321 said:
Time and time again they have been doing this Rizwan having gossips with Rahul after being humiliated in match . Babar asking for shirt . Absolutely shameless . This attitude will never make you a champion team . Absolutely no fire or regret . Behaving like indias fan boys .
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2017 CT, post match virat was seen having a laugh with shoiab malik and other pakistani players. Shoiab malik later revealed that they were laughing about a dropped catch with shoiab and azmal involved.

The friendly vibes all these years did not prevent 152/0 or asia cup win by pak in 2022 or the close match in t20 2022 october.
 
zaidihusain said:
Pakistan team seriously need Ricky Ponting like character as their captain who used to control the game from the front with no nonsense attitude.
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we cannot have another ponting. He was one of his kind. And i never ever felt bad for him whenever he put spirit of cricket on the side and looked for win for his country. Because that was his ultimate goal on the field.
 
The reality is the pak and ind players of the 80s and 90s were closer than the current generation but they never had this type of outward show that we get now - it was all off the pitch.

The only match I saw Pakistan and Indian players laughing, smiling was during a friendly charity game at Crystal Palace in 1992 - and that’s where all this outward show should be confined to.
 
Another reason to hate Babar, can we get rid of this individual once & for all? Hopefully after this WC debacle he gets the out from ODI & T20 international teams.
 
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zaidihusain said:
Pakistan team seriously need Ricky Ponting like character as their captain who used to control the game from the front with no nonsense attitude.
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And what will Ricky do? Pakistan team isn't going to be better unless we make drastic changes at our grassroot level.
 
Hopefully after this tournament Pakistan would never select timid players like Babar, Imam, Fakhar, Shahdab, Nawaz, Ifthikhar ever again for the ODI's & T20I's.
 
Saj said:
You have just been hammered.

You have just been absolutely destroyed.

You have frankly embarrassed yourself as skipper.

If you really want his shirt, get it in the dressing-rooms, behind closed-doors, not on the ground.
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Saj bhai I too though this after CT 2017 final loss. But then I see the consistency in this attitude throughout all our meetings in the last 6-7 years and that I’m ok with too an extent.


To be honest, you feel bad because you did not see hard fight on the pitch. If they did that, this jersey exchange wouldn’t have looked this bad. That CT 2017 final fun looked bad to us because it felt we just gave it away in fun
 
mominsaigol said:
Theirs nothing wrong with kohli and Babar being friends as long as the lines between dosti yaar and competiton doesn't get blurred.

Me and my best friend competed in a school spelling B competiton when we were kids, and his team won, my team came 3rd, but we made damn sure to try our hardest. Their was no dosti yaari at that moment, my goal was to crush him. We could play video games after the competition was over lol.

This feels more like babar accepting kohli as his master 😂😂. Except kohli doesn't accept the student lol.
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Man, you summed it up so well!
 
Bhaijaan said:
Saj bhai I too though this after CT 2017 final loss. But then I see the consistency in this attitude throughout all our meetings in the last 6-7 years and that I’m ok with too an extent.


To be honest, you feel bad because you did not see hard fight on the pitch. If they did that, this jersey exchange wouldn’t have looked this bad. That CT 2017 final fun looked bad to us because it felt we just gave it away in fun
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I have no problem at all in players exchanging shirts and whatever else.

But don't do this in front of everyone.

I would have thought that Babar would realise that, but obviously not.
 
Saj said:
I have no problem at all in players exchanging shirts and whatever else.

But don't do this in front of everyone.

I would have thought that Babar would realise that, but obviously not.
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But bro football players do it on the field itself.

This all looks bad because cricketers are relatively soft athletes and don’t often show a great fight on the field.
 
VForVendetta said:
The entire squad is a fanclub for fab 4 + Rohit,Warner. Whenever they face these guys it becomes evident. If they were allowed they would have even kissed their idols too infront of the entire world. I can understand why guys like Akram, Moin etc would be frustrated by this. Bunch of immature manchilds represent the current team.
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True. One can show respect and admiration for a legend from another team but hold his own in front of them. It's not that hard really!! Babar and co are representing a nation which has a rich cricketing history themselves. This means they're as good as their opponents.

But I don't think they rate themselves highly. Some of them show signs of inferiority complex. They seem to be mentally battered to the point where even they don't believe they can defeat Ind, barring an occasional miracle (for eg. a superb spell from Shaheen).
 
Srinath_cricket said:
True. One can show respect and admiration for a legend from another team but hold his own in front of them. It's not that hard really!! Babar and co are representing a nation which has a rich cricketing history themselves. This means they're as good as their opponents.

But I don't think they rate themselves highly. Some of them show signs of inferiority complex. They seem to be mentally battered to the point where even they don't believe they can defeat Ind, barring an occasional miracle (for eg. a superb spell from Shaheen).
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They have inferiority complex because they know deep down in their heart that they are mediocre. They seriously lack self respect & awareness. I don't remember a young Salman Butt or Taufiq Umar losing their shits in front of Sachin, Sehwag etc even though it's pretty certain they were in awe of such legends. A guy like Wasim was always used to the opposite gesture, where the Indian counterparts were his fanboys & would always follow him for advise & other things. Babar is a timid batsman because he has a timid soft personality.
 
Saj said:
You have just been hammered.

You have just been absolutely destroyed.

You have frankly embarrassed yourself as skipper.

If you really want his shirt, get it in the dressing-rooms, behind closed-doors, not on the ground.
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But kohli wanted to give him on the field in order to get views. He is absolute genius marketing specialist.
 
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ChTab said:
And what will Ricky do? Pakistan team isn't going to be better unless we make drastic changes at our grassroot level.
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No doubt the problem is from grassroots level but there is something horribly wrong with these players who have failed to improve in many areas even after playing international cricket all over the world since last 6-7 years. All I have seen is over exaggeration of individual milestones & celebrating like kindergarten student after taking a wicket. A good captain doesn’t choke in key matches, gets the best out of the team with better strategy, decisions, game plan instead of meekly surrendering in all areas. All main teams in this WC starts their innings with positive intent right from very first ball even if it comes at the cost of losing. Sri Lanka lost against SA & PAK but they fought very well, Australia also lost to India but they got 3 quick wickets for 2 runs. Pakistan on the other hand adopts very conservative approach in the first 20-25 overs and when the pressure builds up, they panic and collapse like a pack of cards.
 
Babar expected to lose and that is why the shirt swapping was probably a great moment for him.
 
zaidihusain said:
No doubt the problem is from grassroots level but there is something horribly wrong with these players who have failed to improve in many areas even after playing international cricket all over the world since last 6-7 years. All I have seen is over exaggeration of individual milestones & celebrating like kindergarten student after taking a wicket. A good captain doesn’t choke in key matches, gets the best out of the team with better strategy, decisions, game plan instead of meekly surrendering in all areas. All main teams in this WC starts their innings with positive intent right from very first ball even if it comes at the cost of losing. Sri Lanka lost against SA & PAK but they fought very well, Australia also lost to India but they got 3 quick wickets for 2 runs. Pakistan on the other hand adopts very conservative approach in the first 20-25 overs and when the pressure builds up, they panic and collapse like a pack of cards.
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Pakistan started the match rather well vs India atleast much better than I was expecting, at one point around 20th over they were batting at 6 rpo. It's Babar & Rizwan who invited all unnecessary pressure by playing so many dots vs spin which was the reason for the collapse. And as far as someone like Pointing to be our head coach matters he will leave within a month because of the culture we have in the team.
 
ChTab said:
Pakistan started the match rather well vs India atleast much better than I was expecting, at one point around 20th over they were batting at 6 rpo. It's Babar & Rizwan who invited all unnecessary pressure by playing so many dots vs spin which was the reason for the collapse. And as far as someone like Pointing to be our head coach matters he will leave within a month because of the culture we have in the team.
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You are right, the start was not bad in this match but overall, we played 154 dot balls out of total 257 balls played which is pathetic. What I mentioned in my earlier post was Pakistan team should have a captain like Ricky Ponting, I know it's next to impossible :). Babar's captaincy is effective at all as it's too defensive.
 
zaidihusain said:
You are right, the start was not bad in this match but overall, we played 154 dot balls out of total 257 balls played which is pathetic. What I mentioned in my earlier post was Pakistan team should have a captain like Ricky Ponting, I know it's next to impossible :). Babar's captaincy is effective at all as it's too defensive.
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I do understand, but players like Ponting don't emerge out of thin air. A proper system is needed. It's not merely luck that India produces so many great batters; they have a well-established system in place, much like Australia. In Pakistan, it often seems like everyone is waiting for a decent player to emerge, and once they do, fans on social media and here on PP hype them to the moon.
 
Lol, looks like Babar was getting a Kohli shirt for his cousins back home - hope that’s not the Akmal brothers 😆
 
adi_62941 said:
But kohli wanted to give him on the field in order to get views. He is absolute genius marketing specialist.
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Smart from Kohli, but not very smart from Babar.

Even people who don't follow cricket, have been asking about this.
 
It's not about Babar. There seems to be an inferiority complex or unreasonable adulation across all Pak players. They seem to revell in sharing space with Indian counterparts on camera.

I don't think it directly effects the performance per se. But I don't get the thinking. They looked in awe yesterday tbh.

Babar really does seem like good and genuine human being. Keyword being genuine unlike Rizwan. But the role of captaining a team battling for it's past glory is different one. It needs different personality.
 
Saj said:
Smart from Kohli, but not very smart from Babar.

Even people who don't follow cricket, have been asking about this.
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Babar is opposite of kohli. He just lacks even 1% of smartness. Nodoubt our grass root level have no levels at all thats why we are producing such dumb human beings who dont have even 1% of intelligence
 
This is exactly what I am talking about. Our ex-players need to learn some tact.

These are the same ex-players, same fans, same media, who were crediting and respecting Kohli for having a laugh with Pakistan before the CT17 trophy presentation.

Now the situation has turned, all knives are out for Babar.
 
ChTab said:
I do understand, but players like Ponting don't emerge out of thin air. A proper system is needed. It's not merely luck that India produces so many great batters; they have a well-established system in place, much like Australia. In Pakistan, it often seems like everyone is waiting for a decent player to emerge, and once they do, fans on social media and here on PP hype them to the moon.
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What type of system we have, we all know. We don't even have a stable system to run our domestic cricket. Sometimes, you will see a cricketing steward (Imran Khan) emerging seemingly out of nowhere in the country's leadership, suggesting that we need a carbon copy of the Australian cricket domestic structure making hundreds of cricketers jobless. Then, there's someone (Ramiz) wishing to run cricket by turning a player into a super brand and giving him power of attorney of a team selection
 
Technics 1210 said:
This is exactly what I am talking about. Our ex-players need to learn some tact.

These are the same ex-players, same fans, same media, who were crediting and respecting Kohli for having a laugh with Pakistan before the CT17 trophy presentation.

Now the situation has turned, all knives are out for Babar.
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Atleast kohli was not receiving a shirt from pakistani counterparts
 
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