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May be its bit early but Wasim Khan has to demonstrate what he has done so far for last 10 months. No point to wait for end of his term where he can boast about his work.
He should be hold accountable for making Misbah and Waqar as head coach cum selector and bowling coach. So far Waqar ddin't do anything to sharpen our bowlers and Misbah for his bias team selections and appointment of timid captain.

Your opinion please!!!
 
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The Chief Selector has managed to pick a team with a Four Man Attack in which not a single bowler is aged in his twenties.

That’s when you sack the Chief Selector on the spot before he can cause any more humiliation.

There is absolutely no excuse for a bowling attack entirely made up of has-beens and kids.
 
The Chief Selector has managed to pick a team with a Four Man Attack in which not a single bowler is aged in his twenties.

That’s when you sack the Chief Selector on the spot before he can cause any more humiliation.

There is absolutely no excuse for a bowling attack entirely made up of has-beens and kids.

Nasim, Afridi and Musa are ok but IK is a pathetic bowler, so as Yasir in overseas condition. Azhar, Iftikhar shouldn't be in the team.
 
Mohammad Amir has caused too much of a headache

Ideally the 3 pacemen should be Amir, Abbas and Naseem.
 
May be its bit early but Wasim Khan has to demonstrate what he has done so far for last 10 months. No point to wait for end of his term where he can boast about his work.
He should be hold accountable for making Misbah and Waqar as head coach cum selector and bowling coach. So far Waqar ddin't do anything to sharpen our bowlers and Misbah for his bias team selections and appointment of timid captain.

Your opinion please!!!

Shafi, I understand your emotional breakdown, but WK is the last man to be blamed for this. Apart from die hard few Misbah fan here, entire PP knows what Misbah can offer as Head Coach, Batting Coach & CS - all together in a package. That little this guy WK after being involved in cricket for 35 years does know.

But, why are you guy not understanding that appointing Misbah was a collective decision - the amount of filth that PAK cricket circle (media, former players, active senior players, PCB office bearers, politicians) throws against foreign coaches, what else do you expect? PAK would have done pretty similar to the first two days of Gabba Test even if you had 11 foreigners attached with one player each - but, the aftermath at media would have been different.

Now from Arthur, the hate has shifted to Misbah & eventually WK - and it’ll continue to next in line .... unless the bitter truth is accepted- the barrel is empty, scratching bottom will only hurt the finger nails. It’s not going to be a quick fix and changing focus everyday won’t improve the situation. PAK is the only team (yes I know, BD is all out for 106 at Eden), in constant decline for last 2 decades. There will always be some ray of hope like the CT win, in an environment where 10-12 teams play cricket seriously and in half of those the game is dying. A real turnover can only happen with a different approach than usual - WK is trying that; Misbah is just a passing bad breath, will be washed way in due course.
 
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As far as I know, Wasim Khan is accountable for that decision as he is CE.
 
He is accountable for that under his leadership Misbah was included in the panel to fire Mickey and without any experience or validation, Misbah was appointed as the coach and chief selector. I don't think Mickey or anyone would have set the world on fire with the Pakistan team we are generally very bad and lack in talent and skills, but giving the job to Misbah and Waqar is just plain wrong.
 
The chain goes like this:

Imran Khan -> Ehsan Mani -> Wasim Khan -> Misbah & Waqar Younis
 
Misbah should either be coach or selector, he should not be both. What is most disturbing about Misbahs current role is that he has regressed, it seems to me anyway, as a human being. As captain he blazed his own trail, going against the grain of Pakistanis wanting "phaaast" bowlers, wanting "attacking batsmen yaar". He moulded a team in his own image: tough, fit, durable, gritty, functional and not showy It worked. They went fourteen test series unbeaten and reached the peak of test rankings.

Now he has become the media yes man, playing to the gallery, pushing for an image (teenagers, fast bowlers etc). In his hope to appease an insatiable media, he has failed his country's national side.
 
Incredible how people expect a new setup to start performing miracles in 1 month.

Sarfraz and Mickey Arthur would've been humiliated in exactly the same manner as the current lot is being humiliated. Pakistanis on PP really have this fetish that whoever is on the bench or whoever has gone by was really the best than the current one in place.

This new setup needs time and by time I mean at least a couple of years. Just look at Langer's start to his coaching stint. Australia was losing everything and that was despite having world class players at his disposal. Misbah and company have just been there for 1 month and the pathetic media and some fans have already started the talk of sack. No amount of coaching can do wonders in 1 month especially when your talent closet is bare. This Pakistani team is talentless with no bench strength.

One day people here applaud Misbah for selecting Naseem, now they slate him for selecting a debutant with hardly any FC experience for a tour of Australia. People are confused.

An Australian tour is always a writeoff in Pakistan's history. When Pakistan's GOAT team in 99 came back with a whitewash and has been consistently being whitewashed since then, there's no need to blame this team which is not even 5% of the 99 team.

Instead Pakistanis should just look for individual positives here and there and build on them for the future. The Adelaide test is next week and let's back the team to make an impression there.

The sooner we let go of emotionally directed thinking, the better it will be for Pakistani cricket. After 1 or 2 series losses we want to change the captain, coach, management, selector, janitor, driver, cleaner. Things don't work like that. Give people a free reign for a considerable amount of time and then judge their performances.
 
This “Naya PCB” has been a joke from the word go.

(1) Mani was the wrong choice for the chairman role. He is an old man who doesn’t have any energy or passion for this position. There is no difference between him and Shahryar Khan.

(2) Mani then proceeds to invent a new position in the PCB hierarchy because he has no confidence in his abilities.

(3) the new position has gone to an incompetent administrator who sold himself with the “I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot” drama.

Apparently he was in line to be the ECB Chief. If that were true, I congratulate the ECB for dodging a bullet.

(4) he reformed the domestic setup based on the structure provided by the PM. He had no real input in the process.

(5) he formed a committee to decide Mickey’s future, and thought it was sensible to have a potential replacement on the committee.

I don’t want to accuse Misbah of bias, but it is not humanly possible to be impartial when you are yourself eager for that job.

(5) he then proceeded to appoint Misbah as a dual coach and selector, even though he has zero prior experience in either role.

The entire selection process was a complete farce and reeked of unprofessionalism. The job advertisement was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants, and Misbah was handed over the job without due process.

It is not a coincidence that rumors of Misbah’s appointment emerged before the job advertisement. People complain that Misbah was appointed because there were no other impressive applicants.

I would argue that most of them didn’t apply because it was obvious that Misbah had the job already, and they could see through PCB’s act.

A dual coach and selector position is very attractive and I am sure that in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer, a lot of coaches would have applied if PCB didn’t act so unprofessionally.

(6) the contract handed over to Misbah is clearly designed to protect his interests and not PCB’s. If things go south which is already happening, the PCB has to pay him a fortunate to send him home. This is another example of the unbelievable incompetence of Wasim.

(7) if all of this wasn’t enough, PCB outdid itself by forcing negotiating with IU to remove Dean Jones and replace him with Misbah, because the gentleman wants a slice of the PSL pie as well.

PCB has been a circus under this new regime and the following people need to be held responsible for creating this mess:

Imran “PM should not interfere in PCB unless I am the PM” Khan,

Ehsan Mani,

And of course the legend himself, Mr. I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot.
 
This “Naya PCB” has been a joke from the word go.

(1) Mani was the wrong choice for the chairman role. He is an old man who doesn’t have any energy or passion for this position. There is no difference between him and Shahryar Khan.

(2) Mani then proceeds to invent a new position in the PCB hierarchy because he has no confidence in his abilities.

(3) the new position has gone to an incompetent administrator who sold himself with the “I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot” drama.

Apparently he was in line to be the ECB Chief. If that were true, I congratulate the ECB for dodging a bullet.

(4) he reformed the domestic setup based on the structure provided by the PM. He had no real input in the process.

(5) he formed a committee to decide Mickey’s future, and thought it was sensible to have a potential replacement on the committee.

I don’t want to accuse Misbah of bias, but it is not humanly possible to be impartial when you are yourself eager for that job.

(5) he then proceeded to appoint Misbah as a dual coach and selector, even though he has zero prior experience in either role.

The entire selection process was a complete farce and reeked of unprofessionalism. The job advertisement was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants, and Misbah was handed over the job without due process.

It is not a coincidence that rumors of Misbah’s appointment emerged before the job advertisement. People complain that Misbah was appointed because there were no other impressive applicants.

I would argue that most of them didn’t apply because it was obvious that Misbah had the job already, and they could see through PCB’s act.

A dual coach and selector position is very attractive and I am sure that in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer, a lot of coaches would have applied if PCB didn’t act so unprofessionally.

(6) the contract handed over to Misbah is clearly designed to protect his interests and not PCB’s. If things go south which is already happening, the PCB has to pay him a fortunate to send him home. This is another example of the unbelievable incompetence of Wasim.

(7) if all of this wasn’t enough, PCB outdid itself by forcing negotiating with IU to remove Dean Jones and replace him with Misbah, because the gentleman wants a slice of the PSL pie as well.

PCB has been a circus under this new regime and the following people need to be held responsible for creating this mess:

Imran “PM should not interfere in PCB unless I am the PM” Khan,

Ehsan Mani,

And of course the legend himself, Mr. I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot.

Bang on the money here Mamoon. This is worthy of POTW.

It is a tough pill to swallow for PTI fans but they must come to terms with this and acknowledge this chain of incompetence from Mani to Misbah began with the PM's first appointment of the former.

I also believe there is a possibility that Imran Khan was behind Misbah's appointment for two reasons:

1. He has vouched for Misbah in the past. If we cast our minds back to the 2016 WT20, Imran Khan was not impressed with Afridi's captaincy during that tournament and felt Misbah should have led the side instead.

2. They are both Niazis and are therefore distant relatives.
 
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Absolutely, Wasim Khan is the CEO so if top PCB administrators think that right decisions havent been taken, Wasim Khan being the CEO is the first man to be held accountable.

While team performances havent been that good but I think in terms of execution of domestic structural reforms and now with the arrangements of PSL in Pakistan at such a big scale needs to be appreciated to an extent along with bringing back test cricket to Pak. Definitely his impression and past experience as an individual does makes a difference when it comes to negotiating with other boards and I think he has done that part well and he maybe brings more enthusiasm, credibility and assurance as the front face of the negotiation for boards like Srl, Eng etc.

However, at the same time if results are not gonna be visible on field soon he will be under pressure as in cricketing world instant results are also important if you want to continue with your job.
 
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Misbah should be sacked
Waqar is a good choice as bowling coach, bowlers like Naseem, Hasnain and Afridi needs him.
 
Yes.

Should be awarded for sacking our worst coach/captain combo of Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz.

And Misbah needs to be held accountable for selecting a young and exciting team which can actually start beating teams at home. We had forgotten how to win Test matches at home.
 
Yes.

Should be awarded for sacking our worst coach/captain combo of Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz.

And Misbah needs to be held accountable for selecting a young and exciting team which can actually start beating teams at home. We had forgotten how to win Test matches at home.

Great job by Misbah so far lost 5 T20 straight. 3 against SL D sides.
Also 312/1 after bowled out of 240 in a flat pitch. We will loose this match by an innings and 200+ runs
 
With Misbah it seems like we are always a decade behind everyone else.

You don’t need to be a first class honours from Warwick business school to know that you cannot risk appointing an untried coach as the head coach and selector of a national cricket team. That too of a team that has a selection pool of maybe 1-2m aspiring cricketers and a fan following second to India.
 
I fear Misbah's contract will be renewed for 2 more years because PCB will have only 9-10 months to go for 2023 World Cup.
 
The Chief Selector has managed to pick a team with a Four Man Attack in which not a single bowler is aged in his twenties.

That’s when you sack the Chief Selector on the spot before he can cause any more humiliation.

There is absolutely no excuse for a bowling attack entirely made up of has-beens and kids.

Literally an attack without a spearhead. It was madness. When you have the obvious spearhead on the sidelines...
 
Misbah should be sacked
Waqar is a good choice as bowling coach, bowlers like Naseem, Hasnain and Afridi needs him.

Waqar is a problem too - his previous four stints in coaching roles went down in flames. Now he's back for a FIFTH time.

So far, we've seen Sri Lanka C and Australia dismantle our attack. He's okayed the selections of Mohammed Irfan and Imran Khan, and this average Musa kid.

Today our bowling plans were non-existent. Our thick captain and team management didn't even try bowling our right arm seamers over the wicket to Warner as Broad did in the Ashes to great effect until he was set.

This Misbah/Azhar/Waqar combo is asking for trouble.
 
This new setup needs time and by time I mean at least a couple of years.

Herd this before. Use your brain before your heart. When you see someone struggling its easy to see they are not gonna get better from here. Misbah has no history that suggests he will start doing things differently when he is given time. We gave a dude who was hardly qualified for this position the most power in our cricket. Do you really have that much confidence in us improving if we give this man time? If so I’d like to know how?
 
Waqar is a problem too - his previous four stints in coaching roles went down in flames. Now he's back for a FIFTH time.

So far, we've seen Sri Lanka C and Australia dismantle our attack. He's okayed the selections of Mohammed Irfan and Imran Khan, and this average Musa kid.

Today our bowling plans were non-existent. Our thick captain and team management didn't even try bowling our right arm seamers over the wicket to Warner as Broad did in the Ashes to great effect until he was set.

This Misbah/Azhar/Waqar combo is asking for trouble.

Musa at least has an opportunity to get better. Irfan and IK Jr. are both over the hill.

I applauded the hiring of Wasim Khan when it came, but either he's been pushed out of the decision making room or he's ineffectual.
 
Mohammad Amir has caused too much of a headache

Ideally the 3 pacemen should be Amir, Abbas and Naseem.

Amir isn't the difference maker that people perceive him to be.

Abbas has been the best fast bowler over the last 18 months, bigger question is why he was left out.

Amir's retirement is not in Pakistan management's control, Abbas's selection is
 
Dont post political stuff on CF - simple rule.
 
We have a new leader, new coach, somewhat new players. Do you guys expect miracles to happen in the middle of the night? We have to give them chance and see how much they improve from series to series. Even if we had our greatest players from the previous era we still wouldn't stand a chance in Aus condition.

Why are we so emotional? Why don't we ever point out the positive that has come under Wasim Khan's belt instead of just the negative?

Serious question: Did everyone really think we would demolish or even give Aussie a challenge at the Gabba? Come on now. Think positive and see what good is coming out of each series instead of starting the blame game and going for PCB's head; Wasim Khan.
 
We have a new leader, new coach, somewhat new players. Do you guys expect miracles to happen in the middle of the night? We have to give them chance and see how much they improve from series to series. Even if we had our greatest players from the previous era we still wouldn't stand a chance in Aus condition.

Why are we so emotional? Why don't we ever point out the positive that has come under Wasim Khan's belt instead of just the negative?

Serious question: Did everyone really think we would demolish or even give Aussie a challenge at the Gabba? Come on now. Think positive and see what good is coming out of each series instead of starting the blame game and going for PCB's head; Wasim Khan.

We know what to expect from Misbah and Waqar. The former was Pakistan's captain for 7 years while the later is now in his 4th term.
 
Herd this before. Use your brain before your heart. When you see someone struggling its easy to see they are not gonna get better from here. Misbah has no history that suggests he will start doing things differently when he is given time. We gave a dude who was hardly qualified for this position the most power in our cricket. Do you really have that much confidence in us improving if we give this man time? If so I’d like to know how?

So you think a new coach can make Azhar, Shan, Haris, Babar score runs?

You just saw horrible Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz were in Tests, both home and away. Yet you can't even give a new setup a couple of years?

If it doesn't improve or there's no direction, sacking the whole setup will make sense. But it sounds stupid after just 1 month in charge.

Have some patience. Im not pro or anti Misbah. But I don't think emotionally. I would give the setup couple of years before I jump on the bandwagon of "Misbah is the worst thing to happen"
 
So you think a new coach can make Azhar, Shan, Haris, Babar score runs?

You just saw horrible Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz were in Tests, both home and away. Yet you can't even give a new setup a couple of years?

If it doesn't improve or there's no direction, sacking the whole setup will make sense. But it sounds stupid after just 1 month in charge.

Have some patience. Im not pro or anti Misbah. But I don't think emotionally. I would give the setup couple of years before I jump on the bandwagon of "Misbah is the worst thing to happen"

Problem is there is no evidence in the past indicating we need to give this coaching set up multiple years to see results. Most of us know already what Misbah is capable of in this position. Using international cricket to learn your trait is a terrible way of going about it. Irrespective of what we say the Board has already signed a 3 year contrast with Misbah. So he will get three years to show us something. But as a critic you don’t need to wait that long to come up with a critic of someones position.
 
This is turning out to be a poor choice.

Misbah could have been a team director. We could have hired a specialist coach who also has a vote in selections. Than hired specialist batting coaches and bowling coaches.

Instead we make an above average player ( I like Misbah) coach , chief selector, and batting coach.

A specialist batting coach won't turn hacks into Bradman, but they could advise some of our players on how to improve on small technical aspects which would improve them . Misbah is not capable of improving batters. Not even going to mention his safe and uninspiring selections. Selecting a 16 year old who probably isn't ready doesn't make you a great selector.
 
This “Naya PCB” has been a joke from the word go.

(1) Mani was the wrong choice for the chairman role. He is an old man who doesn’t have any energy or passion for this position. There is no difference between him and Shahryar Khan.

(2) Mani then proceeds to invent a new position in the PCB hierarchy because he has no confidence in his abilities.

(3) the new position has gone to an incompetent administrator who sold himself with the “I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot” drama.

Apparently he was in line to be the ECB Chief. If that were true, I congratulate the ECB for dodging a bullet.

(4) he reformed the domestic setup based on the structure provided by the PM. He had no real input in the process.

(5) he formed a committee to decide Mickey’s future, and thought it was sensible to have a potential replacement on the committee.

I don’t want to accuse Misbah of bias, but it is not humanly possible to be impartial when you are yourself eager for that job.

(5) he then proceeded to appoint Misbah as a dual coach and selector, even though he has zero prior experience in either role.

The entire selection process was a complete farce and reeked of unprofessionalism. The job advertisement was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants, and Misbah was handed over the job without due process.

It is not a coincidence that rumors of Misbah’s appointment emerged before the job advertisement. People complain that Misbah was appointed because there were no other impressive applicants.

I would argue that most of them didn’t apply because it was obvious that Misbah had the job already, and they could see through PCB’s act.

A dual coach and selector position is very attractive and I am sure that in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer, a lot of coaches would have applied if PCB didn’t act so unprofessionally.

(6) the contract handed over to Misbah is clearly designed to protect his interests and not PCB’s. If things go south which is already happening, the PCB has to pay him a fortunate to send him home. This is another example of the unbelievable incompetence of Wasim.

(7) if all of this wasn’t enough, PCB outdid itself by forcing negotiating with IU to remove Dean Jones and replace him with Misbah, because the gentleman wants a slice of the PSL pie as well.

PCB has been a circus under this new regime and the following people need to be held responsible for creating this mess:

Imran “PM should not interfere in PCB unless I am the PM” Khan,

Ehsan Mani,

And of course the legend himself, Mr. I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot.

Mamoon is too negative, but tell me how do you disagree with all this or whatever he posts? POTW stuff for me.
 
This “Naya PCB” has been a joke from the word go.

(1) Mani was the wrong choice for the chairman role. He is an old man who doesn’t have any energy or passion for this position. There is no difference between him and Shahryar Khan.

(2) Mani then proceeds to invent a new position in the PCB hierarchy because he has no confidence in his abilities.

(3) the new position has gone to an incompetent administrator who sold himself with the “I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot” drama.

Apparently he was in line to be the ECB Chief. If that were true, I congratulate the ECB for dodging a bullet.

(4) he reformed the domestic setup based on the structure provided by the PM. He had no real input in the process.

(5) he formed a committee to decide Mickey’s future, and thought it was sensible to have a potential replacement on the committee.

I don’t want to accuse Misbah of bias, but it is not humanly possible to be impartial when you are yourself eager for that job.

(5) he then proceeded to appoint Misbah as a dual coach and selector, even though he has zero prior experience in either role.

The entire selection process was a complete farce and reeked of unprofessionalism. The job advertisement was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants, and Misbah was handed over the job without due process.

It is not a coincidence that rumors of Misbah’s appointment emerged before the job advertisement. People complain that Misbah was appointed because there were no other impressive applicants.

I would argue that most of them didn’t apply because it was obvious that Misbah had the job already, and they could see through PCB’s act.

A dual coach and selector position is very attractive and I am sure that in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer, a lot of coaches would have applied if PCB didn’t act so unprofessionally.

(6) the contract handed over to Misbah is clearly designed to protect his interests and not PCB’s. If things go south which is already happening, the PCB has to pay him a fortunate to send him home. This is another example of the unbelievable incompetence of Wasim.

(7) if all of this wasn’t enough, PCB outdid itself by forcing negotiating with IU to remove Dean Jones and replace him with Misbah, because the gentleman wants a slice of the PSL pie as well.

PCB has been a circus under this new regime and the following people need to be held responsible for creating this mess:

Imran “PM should not interfere in PCB unless I am the PM” Khan,

Ehsan Mani,

And of course the legend himself, Mr. I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot.


:salute

Misbah's appointment and the contract reeks of more than incompetence - corruption is in play
 
Amir isn't the difference maker that people perceive him to be.

Abbas has been the best fast bowler over the last 18 months, bigger question is why he was left out.

Amir's retirement is not in Pakistan management's control, Abbas's selection is

I think it makes sense to have had Abbas but Amir is the only bowler in Pakistan who ‘can bowl’. The term is very important. There is a reason why England always took clouderson to all the tough away tours because he was the only bowler ‘who could bowl’. Just consistently hit a length and go at 2-3 runs per over. This Pakistan attack at the moment with Abbas included doesn’t inspire the belief that these lads can genuinely just keep things tight.
 
This “Naya PCB” has been a joke from the word go.

(1) Mani was the wrong choice for the chairman role. He is an old man who doesn’t have any energy or passion for this position. There is no difference between him and Shahryar Khan.

(2) Mani then proceeds to invent a new position in the PCB hierarchy because he has no confidence in his abilities.

(3) the new position has gone to an incompetent administrator who sold himself with the “I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot” drama.

Apparently he was in line to be the ECB Chief. If that were true, I congratulate the ECB for dodging a bullet.

(4) he reformed the domestic setup based on the structure provided by the PM. He had no real input in the process.

(5) he formed a committee to decide Mickey’s future, and thought it was sensible to have a potential replacement on the committee.

I don’t want to accuse Misbah of bias, but it is not humanly possible to be impartial when you are yourself eager for that job.

(5) he then proceeded to appoint Misbah as a dual coach and selector, even though he has zero prior experience in either role.

The entire selection process was a complete farce and reeked of unprofessionalism. The job advertisement was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants, and Misbah was handed over the job without due process.

It is not a coincidence that rumors of Misbah’s appointment emerged before the job advertisement. People complain that Misbah was appointed because there were no other impressive applicants.

I would argue that most of them didn’t apply because it was obvious that Misbah had the job already, and they could see through PCB’s act.

A dual coach and selector position is very attractive and I am sure that in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer, a lot of coaches would have applied if PCB didn’t act so unprofessionally.

(6) the contract handed over to Misbah is clearly designed to protect his interests and not PCB’s. If things go south which is already happening, the PCB has to pay him a fortunate to send him home. This is another example of the unbelievable incompetence of Wasim.

(7) if all of this wasn’t enough, PCB outdid itself by forcing negotiating with IU to remove Dean Jones and replace him with Misbah, because the gentleman wants a slice of the PSL pie as well.

PCB has been a circus under this new regime and the following people need to be held responsible for creating this mess:

Imran “PM should not interfere in PCB unless I am the PM” Khan,

Ehsan Mani,

And of course the legend himself, Mr. I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot.

Spot on

POTW
 
This “Naya PCB” has been a joke from the word go.

(1) Mani was the wrong choice for the chairman role. He is an old man who doesn’t have any energy or passion for this position. There is no difference between him and Shahryar Khan.

(2) Mani then proceeds to invent a new position in the PCB hierarchy because he has no confidence in his abilities.

(3) the new position has gone to an incompetent administrator who sold himself with the “I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot” drama.

Apparently he was in line to be the ECB Chief. If that were true, I congratulate the ECB for dodging a bullet.

(4) he reformed the domestic setup based on the structure provided by the PM. He had no real input in the process.

(5) he formed a committee to decide Mickey’s future, and thought it was sensible to have a potential replacement on the committee.

I don’t want to accuse Misbah of bias, but it is not humanly possible to be impartial when you are yourself eager for that job.

(5) he then proceeded to appoint Misbah as a dual coach and selector, even though he has zero prior experience in either role.

The entire selection process was a complete farce and reeked of unprofessionalism. The job advertisement was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants, and Misbah was handed over the job without due process.

It is not a coincidence that rumors of Misbah’s appointment emerged before the job advertisement. People complain that Misbah was appointed because there were no other impressive applicants.

I would argue that most of them didn’t apply because it was obvious that Misbah had the job already, and they could see through PCB’s act.

A dual coach and selector position is very attractive and I am sure that in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer, a lot of coaches would have applied if PCB didn’t act so unprofessionally.

(6) the contract handed over to Misbah is clearly designed to protect his interests and not PCB’s. If things go south which is already happening, the PCB has to pay him a fortunate to send him home. This is another example of the unbelievable incompetence of Wasim.

(7) if all of this wasn’t enough, PCB outdid itself by forcing negotiating with IU to remove Dean Jones and replace him with Misbah, because the gentleman wants a slice of the PSL pie as well.

PCB has been a circus under this new regime and the following people need to be held responsible for creating this mess:

Imran “PM should not interfere in PCB unless I am the PM” Khan,

Ehsan Mani,

And of course the legend himself, Mr. I left ECB to help Pakistan cricket because I am a patriot.

1) Mani was the right choice because of his experience, which is incredibly important considering he spent time with the ICC. Mani and Speed brought in T20I cricket (against stiff opposition) to a grand stage at the international level, which is now raking in money. There was nothing wrong in bringing him onboard and he essentially ran laps around the other choices in terms of merit.

2) Nothing wrong with developing a separate leadership position to dilute power. This is generally seen in successful organizations. Funny thing is, that's exactly what the criticism is with Misbah's appointment. His power isn't diluted. The only time a separate leadership position goes pear-shaped is if the new hiring is nepotistic, which isn't the case here.

3) Wasim Khan has a wonderful resume and was well-qualified for the position. If he's incompetent then pretty much anyone else would have been incompetent too.

4) The new structure is still a huge positive. Nothing wrong with it and the matches are far more competitive now. The only ones whinging are the ones who were getting free money and roster spots for performing poorly.

5) I agree with this. Almost all of the issues associated with the PCB are related to Misbah's appointment. And yes, it starts with the conflict of interest, which was absolutely bizarre.

The dual coach+selector position was smart (and still is) if they had included an experienced coach who could implement his vision. Once again, all of their problems started by including Misbah and that's a mistake they're going to regret for a while.

6) Most coaches receive those contracts. It's quite common in North American/European sports too.

7) The reason Wasim Khan gave before was they need Misbah to gain experience. I agree this is a silly move and once again stems from the mistake of hiring Misbah.

They have done a lot of good work but this Misbah hiring has and will hurt them. I would recommend Mani and Wasim Khan to dilute Misbah's power and hire a separate selector. It's the only way to handle the situation they find themselves in because firing him won't happen nor does it help when looking to hire a replacement.
 
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More than wasim khan its Misbah to blame, wk at least has some success to fool us with, misbah has never coached a team before but then you could say that is also his fault as he has hired him.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], If Misbah is picked by Imran k how can he be removed earlier than the contract?
 
Wasim Khan should be held accountable why he gave 3 roles to Misbah. If Misbah is the head coach and the selector too how will he manage both the roles at once. These 2 roles are very different and kind of opposite too.

Coaches work with players and work on their decencies and players are open to coaches where they lack. While selectors job is kind of opposite. They select the best available players and inform talent who had work on their game and has lift it up. How will the players feel confident asking Misbah questions about their technique and deficiencies when they know Misbah is the selector too? Is Wasim Khan dumb?
 
Wasim Khan stated that Misbah is now responsible for the performance of the team after he had been hired on the dual role - lekin Misbah is one cunning fox - Usney Wasim Khan ko bhi choona laga diya, by stepping down from one role.

If Wasim Khan now tried to hold Misbah responsible, Misbah will simply say, look, I have a limited role now. I am not the chief selector, and I can’t coach duds if Chief selector picks the wrong players.
 
Nasim, Afridi and Musa are ok but IK is a pathetic bowler, so as Yasir in overseas condition. Azhar, Iftikhar shouldn't be in the team.

So only one left in the ok list right?

Lesson
No need to find young messiah

Domestic toppers are better than trying the messiah's
 
This guy has been a disaster. The fact that he appointed Misbah and Waqar showed he knows jack all about Pakistan cricket. Should show some professionalism, resign and head back to England
 
Don't know who makes the decision IK or Wasim

But the persanal choices are stupid as hell

From Misbah to Azhar to dare I say Babar as a 3 format captain
Add waqar

Muhammad Wasim seems like a ok choice
 
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He should go back to England for these appointments. Didn't expect our coach to turns us into an elitie team given the resource but this sort of bowling performance is last 3 overseas tour is shambolic.
 
There is zero proof that Misbah was appointed by Imran.

It is just a convenient excuse used by our fans to defend the incompetent Wasim Khan.

The problem is that they cannot reconcile the projection of Wasim Khan as a messiah and defend his appointment of Misbah at the same time.

So the easy way out of this tricky mess is to cook up this fake narrative of Imran Khan forcing Misbah down Wasim Khan’s throat.

Wasim Khan is incompetent with no credentials and no vision. The only reason he got the job was because he brown-nosed Imran and got into his good books.

He may not be a great administrator but he is an A class sycophant.

In local lingo, we use the word “chamcha”.
 
I think people are missing the core issue here which is why our team is where it’s at. Pakistan domestic cricket was run like a circus...Wasim’s goal was to bring a structure to it all which I think he has. If the players coming out of your existing system can’t deliver when it matters then I’m sorry no coach can make them show up when needed. The reason the team looked better under Mickey was the right selection of players...Wasim was wrong to hand all 3 roles to Misbah. That’s been the only downfall. Waqar is not a bad bowling coach but he should have no say on what bowlers should be picked. Period.
 
Once again Pakistani supporters in complete denial mode. Not ready to accept why we are here. We had pathetic, impotent which isn't producing world quality players for two decades.

And you want Wasim to fix the mess of two decades in just a year or two. If Najam Sethi's system was producing quality players then why PSL didn't produce a single quality batsman so far? A domestic season played on green top with substandard balls among 12 teams was the biggest enemy. There was Zero Investment in the local domestic system. And all resources were fulled into gimmicks like PSL.

Replace Misbah with whoever you want. Where the new "Mr X" will unearth world-beaters from?
 
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Once again Pakistani supporters in complete denial mode. Not ready to accept why we are here. We had pathetic, impotent which isn't producing world quality players for two decades.

And you want Wasim to fix the mess of two decades in just a year or two. If Najam Sethi's system was producing quality players then why PSL didn't produce a single quality batsman so far? A domestic season played on green top with substandard balls among 12 teams was the biggest enemy. There was Zero Investment in the local domestic system. And all resources were fulled into gimmicks like PSL.

Replace Misbah with whoever you want. Where the new "Mr X" will unearth world-beaters from?

You're not making sense, the simple question is on what basis and credentials Misbah was handed over dual job of being coach and selector and why is he still the coach, there has to be some qualification for God sake.
 
Once again Pakistani supporters in complete denial mode. Not ready to accept why we are here. We had pathetic, impotent which isn't producing world quality players for two decades.

And you want Wasim to fix the mess of two decades in just a year or two. If Najam Sethi's system was producing quality players then why PSL didn't produce a single quality batsman so far? A domestic season played on green top with substandard balls among 12 teams was the biggest enemy. There was Zero Investment in the local domestic system. And all resources were fulled into gimmicks like PSL.

Replace Misbah with whoever you want. Where the new "Mr X" will unearth world-beaters from?

yeah right.
He promised to get it all fixed if given a hefty salary.
There was an entire thread about this on PP that I can't seem to find.

Misbah to be solely responsible for team’s selection, performance’- Waseem Khan

https://www.dawn.com/news/1503538/misbah-to-be-solely-responsible-for-teams-selection-performance
 
There is zero proof that Misbah was appointed by Imran.

It is just a convenient excuse used by our fans to defend the incompetent Wasim Khan.

The problem is that they cannot reconcile the projection of Wasim Khan as a messiah and defend his appointment of Misbah at the same time.

So the easy way out of this tricky mess is to cook up this fake narrative of Imran Khan forcing Misbah down Wasim Khan’s throat.

Wasim Khan is incompetent with no credentials and no vision. The only reason he got the job was because he brown-nosed Imran and got into his good books.

He may not be a great administrator but he is an A class sycophant.

In local lingo, we use the word “*******”.

Mickey Arthur in a few interviews has said that he was given verbal assurances from the PCB Cricket Committee and the PCB higher ups that he will get a fresh contract and was shocked to find out in the end that the PCB decided to move on. It is clear that the PCB decided to stick with him but then came the orders from the PM House, GHQ
 
Forget cricket for a moment, let's imagine we're all going to a job interview.

Person A turns up and admits he's never had any experience in the role before...

Person B turns up and says he's been employed in a SIMILAR role four times previously, all ending horribly ! And he's done no courses or additional learning, or found work elsewhere to improve his skills.

How many employers will listen to the rest of your presentation before showing you the exit...
 
Forget cricket for a moment, let's imagine we're all going to a job interview.

Person A turns up and admits he's never had any experience in the role before...

Person B turns up and says he's been employed in a SIMILAR role four times previously, all ending horribly ! And he's done no courses or additional learning, or found work elsewhere to improve his skills.

How many employers will listen to the rest of your presentation before showing you the exit...

Tbh it depends on the rest of the candidates as well
 
Mickey Arthur in a few interviews has said that he was given verbal assurances from the PCB Cricket Committee and the PCB higher ups that he will get a fresh contract and was shocked to find out in the end that the PCB decided to move on. It is clear that the PCB decided to stick with him but then came the orders from the PM House, GHQ

Mickey getting assurances from PCB that he will get a new contract does not prove that Wasim Khan got a phone call from Imran Khan and was ordered to appoint Misbah.

It could also mean the following: Wasim had a change of heart after Misbah expressed his interest in replacing him or Wasim had no intentions of renewing Mickey’s contract in the first place, but did not want to inform him until he was able to find a replacement.

This idea that he was forced to choose Misbah because Imran ordered him is baseless conjecture that only exists because people have a hard time projecting Wasim as a savior and defending his decision to appoint Misbah.

Besides, even if we assume that it is true and Wasim didn’t want Misbah but Imran ordered Wasim to appoint him, it doesn’t make Wasim look any good.

If he is going to take dictations from the PM and be his puppet and not have the confidence to make his own decisions, then there is no reason for our fans to praise him and advertise him as the messiah of Pakistani cricket.
 
Mickey getting assurances from PCB that he will get a new contract does not prove that Wasim Khan got a phone call from Imran Khan and was ordered to appoint Misbah.

It could also mean the following: Wasim had a change of heart after Misbah expressed his interest in replacing him or Wasim had no intentions of renewing Mickey’s contract in the first place, but did not want to inform him until he was able to find a replacement.

This idea that he was forced to choose Misbah because Imran ordered him is baseless conjecture that only exists because people have a hard time projecting Wasim as a savior and defending his decision to appoint Misbah.

Besides, even if we assume that it is true and Wasim didn’t want Misbah but Imran ordered Wasim to appoint him, it doesn’t make Wasim look any good.

If he is going to take dictations from the PM and be his puppet and not have the confidence to make his own decisions, then there is no reason for our fans to praise him and advertise him as the messiah of Pakistani cricket.

Tbf a lot of seasoned media reporters with contacts in the PCB Confirmed that the order to replace Arthur with Misbah came from the PM house.
 
Mickey getting assurances from PCB that he will get a new contract does not prove that Wasim Khan got a phone call from Imran Khan and was ordered to appoint Misbah.

It could also mean the following: Wasim had a change of heart after Misbah expressed his interest in replacing him or Wasim had no intentions of renewing Mickey’s contract in the first place, but did not want to inform him until he was able to find a replacement.

This idea that he was forced to choose Misbah because Imran ordered him is baseless conjecture that only exists because people have a hard time projecting Wasim as a savior and defending his decision to appoint Misbah.


Besides, even if we assume that it is true and Wasim didn’t want Misbah but Imran ordered Wasim to appoint him, it doesn’t make Wasim look any good.

If he is going to take dictations from the PM and be his puppet and not have the confidence to make his own decisions, then there is no reason for our fans to praise him and advertise him as the messiah of Pakistani cricket.


This is exactly what I've been saying.

If WK was honest and sincere with his job and his responsibility and his vision (if he had any to improve Pak cricket), then he would simply put his resignation on the table to shut IK.

He had no issue finding work in UK, no?
 
This is exactly what I've been saying.

If WK was honest and sincere with his job and his responsibility and his vision (if he had any to improve Pak cricket), then he would simply put his resignation on the table to shut IK.

He had no issue finding work in UK, no?

PCB was just a forward step in his career. After languishing in County cricket, running an international cricket board was the next move for him. He got the job after brown-nosing Imran.

It is said that he was set to become the next ECB chief before he decided to do a “favor” on Pakistan cricket. If that’s true, then I must say that ECB have dodged a bullet.

He also appears to be a real softie who cannot stomach criticism. Since coming to Pakistan, he has whined a dozen times about the criticism that he has received from the media and the ex-players.

Poor guy didn’t receive the royal treatment that he was expecting.
 
Tbf a lot of seasoned media reporters with contacts in the PCB Confirmed that the order to replace Arthur with Misbah came from the PM house.

So he is being paid 30 lakh per month to take dictations? Great.
 
Tbf a lot of seasoned media reporters with contacts in the PCB Confirmed that the order to replace Arthur with Misbah came from the PM house.

If true, then why didn't he show some balls and stood up against it?
Worst come to worst, he would've been fired? So what ? ECB chief job was awaiting for him in UK.
 
PCB was just a forward step in his career. After languishing in County cricket, running an international cricket board was the next move for him. He got the job after brown-nosing Imran.

It is said that he was set to become the next ECB chief before he decided to do a “favor” on Pakistan cricket. If that’s true, then I must say that ECB have dodged a bullet.

He also appears to be a real softie who cannot stomach criticism. Since coming to Pakistan, he has whined a dozen times about the criticism that he has received from the media and the ex-players.

Poor guy didn’t receive the royal treatment that he was expecting.

Looks like the royal treatment is reserved for all the crooks and incompetents you have over there. For someone who didn't even know what a chairman of a cricket board actually looks and talks like, you have a lot to say. Even Australia cricket school league chairman would be more competent than whoever has been running the PCB for the last 50 years.
 
Replace Misbah with whoever you want. Where the new "Mr X" will unearth world-beaters from?

Do you whole heartedly believe Misbah is the best coach to coach our team right now and there are no other alternatives that can bring out a better performance from this bunch?
 
i personally think Rashid will be a great coach with Shoaib as a cheerleeder (bowling coach). I have said this before, Misbah is the worst thing happened to pakistan cricket first as a captain then as coach/selector
 
Wasim Khan stated that Misbah is now responsible for the performance of the team after he had been hired on the dual role - lekin Misbah is one cunning fox - Usney Wasim Khan ko bhi choona laga diya, by stepping down from one role.

If Wasim Khan now tried to hold Misbah responsible, Misbah will simply say, look, I have a limited role now. I am not the chief selector, and I can’t coach duds if Chief selector picks the wrong players.

But Misbah was Chief Selector and Head Coach for this tour.

He can't evade responsibility - Mohammad Wasim has not become Chief Selector yet.
 
Although I still believe Wasim isn’t incompetent I do agree that he needs to be held accountable for these lacklustre on field performances. We have many posters mindlessly bashing him as some sort of sycophant while others claim he’s some sort of saviour. In my view he’s been very ordinary so far, I do believe he is a good administrator in terms of running a board but perhaps the pitfall is that you cannot adopt western practices 100% in a country like Pakistan. Coming in with this is how we run things in England evidently won’t work and on top of that the misbah appointment was atrocious. I do like that he made the move on the chief selector role but the experiment was a complete and utter failure. Making an egregious error like this so early in one’s tenure can be impossible to recover from and the damage to our cricket has already been done.
 
He is a sycophant. He got the job because he brown-nosed Imran.

Pakistan is basically paying a fortune to someone who is serving as a puppet to his patron. He doesn’t seem to have the confidence to stand his ground and make his own decisions.

You keep saying this but is it your opinion or is it a fact? If factual how do you know this?
 
Bringing in the least innovative personality for an 'innovative' coaching cum selector gig said it all.
 
He is a sycophant. He got the job because he brown-nosed Imran.

Pakistan is basically paying a fortune to someone who is serving as a puppet to his patron. He doesn’t seem to have the confidence to stand his ground and make his own decisions.

Wait people leave comfortable high paying jobs in first world countries to move to a 3rd world country and take a job in a dysfunctional system only to be someones puppet??? Wow you are more clueless than I thought
 
Wait people leave comfortable high paying jobs in first world countries to move to a 3rd world country and take a job in a dysfunctional system only to be someones puppet??? Wow you are more clueless than I thought

He got a promotion in Pakistan. He was leading a County in England and in Pakistan he became the CEO of the cricket board.

People move to third world countries for bigger positions. It is normal.

Besides, this third world country is his country of origin. It is not comparable to a British guy going to Kenya or Mozambique for work.

He is a British Pakistani who has gotten a promotion in Pakistan.

Wasim might have fooled many with the “favor” angle and the “I left UK to help Pakistan” drama, but some of us can see through the act.

And that is why he is always crying about facing hostility and criticism from the media and ex-players. He is disappointed to see that not everyone has fallen for his act. Only a few naive and gullible fans have.
 
You keep saying this but is it your opinion or is it a fact? If factual how do you know this?

Few things cannot be explained. It is very obvious why Mani and Wasim got the job. If you want proof I don’t have it, so you are free to not take my word and not believe what I said.
 
PCB was just a forward step in his career. After languishing in County cricket, running an international cricket board was the next move for him. He got the job after brown-nosing Imran.

It is said that he was set to become the next ECB chief before he decided to do a “favor” on Pakistan cricket. If that’s true, then I must say that ECB have dodged a bullet.

He also appears to be a real softie who cannot stomach criticism. Since coming to Pakistan, he has whined a dozen times about the criticism that he has received from the media and the ex-players.

Poor guy didn’t receive the royal treatment that he was expecting.

And just watch that press conference where he arrogantly at the start asked the media 'are you happy being ranked number 7' lol.
 
He got a promotion in Pakistan. He was leading a County in England and in Pakistan he became the CEO of the cricket board.

People move to third world countries for bigger positions. It is normal.

Besides, this third world country is his country of origin. It is not comparable to a British guy going to Kenya or Mozambique for work.

He is a British Pakistani who has gotten a promotion in Pakistan.

Wasim might have fooled many with the “favor” angle and the “I left UK to help Pakistan” drama, but some of us can see through the act.

And that is why he is always crying about facing hostility and criticism from the media and ex-players. He is disappointed to see that not everyone has fallen for his act. Only a few naive and gullible fans have.

I think whatever he has done, to get rid of the rotten oldies and keep leeches like Miandad, Aaqib Javed away was indeed a commendable job..
Brought test cricket and PSL back to pakistan...
Now this year, Pakistan have a few top ranked teams lined up to play in Pakistan..
He was also able to televise the domestic games , Setup successfully reduced to 6 regional teams( yes departments heads are there and they will be used in different manner to sponsor i guess)
HPC have been up and running.. Appointed good old cricketers to the coaching positions.
Domestic cricket is more competitive now than it was before.

Yes he was the culprit to appoint Waqar and Misbah.. But having Misbah take the dual role is very bad thing but that shouldnt suffice all his good work...And we all know how instrumental IK was in pushing MISBAH and Waqar for the role..

I like Wasims idea of promoting and giving chances to local coaches and talents, but he was deceived in the shape of MISBAH and WAQAR.. Im happy that he was able to correct that quickly enough to kick Misbah out from the chief selector looking at his shambolic selections
Mohammed Wasim's selection as chief selector is indeed a good one..
 
Hes getting sacked is misbah and foreign coach coming as per shoaib jatt sama news...very reliable...misbah last series is SAF
 
Wasim Khan is incompetent with no credentials and no vision. The only reason he got the job was because he brown-nosed Imran and got into his good books.

He may not be a great administrator but he is an A class sycophant.

In local lingo, we use the word “chamcha”.

So as per you...Wasim Khan is a sycophant and has no credentials to be a cricket adminstrator inspite of having been successful in a similar role before.

While 'Sethi the saviour' got the PCB job on merit......after helping his masters to rig an election.
 
Hes getting sacked is misbah and foreign coach coming as per shoaib jatt sama news...very reliable...misbah last series is SAF

What will happen if we beat S Africa? Will Misbah and Waqar be retained?
 
First blame it all on Azhar ali and now on Misbah. Okay a better coach and captain might improve the efficiency of the team but is is enough? Misbah is incompetent but a worldclass coach won't improve this team by a lot.


Tell me any domestic performer that we can confidently say that he looks a great talent that can match the best young talent in the world. I have watched QEA and I agree with Tanvir Ahmed(Youtube show) that the quality of players in QEA is of low quality. We are simply not producing good players
 
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