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"We feel that we are very much unbeatable at home" : Shakib al Hasan

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Who is the best Test allrounder in the world? The conversation has resurfaced during the English Test summer, dominated by Moeen Ali and Ben Stokes, and India’s spin duo of Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja.

Yet there is one figure often wrongly ignored from this debate. Shakib Al Hasan is the world’s best Test allrounder, according to the International Cricket Council’s rankings – and, just for good measure, the premier allrounder in both one-day international and Twenty20 cricket too.

If his enduring excellence is not more widely appreciated beyond Asia, it is no slight on him. Instead, it is a reflection of how Bangladesh have been treated as a second-rate cricketing nation. Shakib has played 49 of Bangladesh’s 56 Tests since his Test debut in 2007; England have played 131 in this time and Australia 114.

“It is frustrating,” he said, while playing for Jamaica Tallawahs during the Caribbean Premier League. “We can see the difference. But that’s how it is. We can’t do anything.”

Since his Test debut in 2007 Shakib has been Bangladesh’s totem, simultaneously fulfilling the role of frontline batsman and bowler with a reliability that few in Test history have matched. He averages 40.92 with the bat and 33.04 with the ball, numbers that bear comparison with cricketers venerated as greats; both figures actually improve away from home, in defiance of the traditional jibe that subcontinental players cannot replicate their success beyond home climes.

And he has done it all while bearing a burden of responsibility for his team’s fortunes perhaps not mirrored by anyone else in world cricket today. Shakib’s many successes have brought no guarantees of team triumphs – 217 in Wellington in January came in a painful Test loss – but his failures have virtually ensured Bangladeshi defeats.

Most egregiously, Bangladesh have not played a single Test against Australia during Shakib’s entire career, making this impending series – rescheduled following Australia’s withdrawal for security reasons in 2015 – all the more significant. “None of our team members in this squad played Tests against Australia, so it will be very exciting.”

When Australia finally meet Shakib, they will not merely confront a wonderfully crafty left-arm spinner and batsman adroit at manipulating the ball precisely, but a historic figure in world cricket. For it is Shakib who has done more than anyone else to transform Bangladesh from a ragtag side who were the joke of world cricket – as in their notorious run of 71 defeats in 72 internationals from 1999 to 2004 – into a team who loom as the game’s next major force.

In the last year alone, Bangladesh have reached the Champions Trophy semi-finals, cementing their ODI ranking of seventh, and defeated England at home in a Test and Sri Lanka away – where their 1-1 series draw bodes ill for Australia, who lost 3-0 in Sri Lanka in 2016.

“It’s been a long journey,” Shakib reflects. “It’s been incredible. I don’t think many people thought – even in Bangladesh – that we can come this far.” Shakib credits foreign coaches with increasing fitness and professionalism and has observed how Bangladesh’s cricket infrastructure has been lifted as investment has increased.

During the many barren years, a lack of self-belief also stymied the team. “We knew that we have this ability, and we needed that belief, and we can only get this belief by winning matches,” he says. “But there is no shortage of self-belief at this moment… Now we feel that we are very much unbeatable at home – doesn’t matter who we are playing against. So this is the belief that makes a team a very good team, and a winning team.”

In Test cricket, Shakib believes the decisive shift in Bangladesh’s mentality came with the “big decision” the team took before the Test series with England last year. “Previously the mindset was to draw against big teams – try to play five days, make a draw - but we never used to get the result. Then we started thinking ‘let’s try to win – let’s try to play and win the game’. It’s the mindset that changed, and that made us believe that we can win.”

Really, his Bangladesh team-mates are just mirroring Shakib himself, whose 11 years in international cricket have been characterised by combativeness, thriving under pressure and fierce self-belief. These traits were nurtured in childhood, where Shakib grew up in a middle-class home in Magura, in south-west Bangladesh.

“When I used to play with the tennis ball at my home in Magura, I hated losing. Most of the time I used to win. And I always liked batting, bowling, and fielding – I wanted to be the best. The fighting mindset was there from childhood – I don’t know where that came from, but it was there, from the earliest time that I can remember.”

Such qualities earned Shakib selection for the Bangladesh Krira Shikkha Protishtan, the national sports institute, at the age of 13, just as Bangladesh were gaining Test status. “Coaches used to tell me that you’ll be someone that people will follow – you’re not following anyone.”

The coaches were right. Shakib has emerged as not merely the finest cricketer in the nation’s history but probably the single most recognisable figure in Bangladesh today.

“If you’re talking about normal roads and all, it is very difficult,” he laughs when asked if he can venture outside. “They used to say that you can’t go out regularly when you play for the national team – your life will be different. And I have had that in my mind, that that will be my life.

“It’s like a religion, in Bangladesh. When we play cricket, everyone is glued to their TV. You know, when they have access to the match, no one is going to do anything other than watch cricket. In that perspective, I think we are very lucky that we get that support from our country.”

Sometimes such expectations have been overwhelming. Shakib has encountered several disciplinary problems – including threatening a spectator who caused play to stop by moving near the sightscreen; and making an obscene gesture when the cameras were focusing on him incessantly after a dismissal – culminating in a six-month ban from the Bangladesh Cricket Board in 2014, on account of his “serious misbehaviour” with the coach. “It made me calm,” Shakib reflects. “That one time made me so strong, mentally, that I know that no one can break me now.” He has not been in trouble since.

Instead, as he has become a father, Shakib has developed a parallel life away from cricket. “I don’t read papers, I don’t watch any news, and I don’t talk to most people – just my family members and close friends that I talk to, and they never talk to me about cricket. So basically I just practise, and enjoy my time with my family when I’m at home. I think that’s helped me a lot to perform well.”

At 30, he is playing better than ever, and entitled to dream about what is possible from Bangladeshi cricket. “I think we can be world-beaters. I think we have very good potential to go all the way in 2019 World Cup – if not, 2023.” More Test matches – 17 years have only brought 100, fewer than six a year – will lead to the side “performing a lot better than we are now”.

Such tantalising possibilities remain ahead and, beginning against Australia this week, the chance to make more history. Yet Shakib’s greatest legacy is already secure. When he grew up, almost all of the cricket on TV in Bangladesh involved other subcontinental sides. Naturally, Shakib looked up to these players, especially the Pakistanis Saeed Anwar and Saqlain Mushtaq.

Now, young Bangladeshis do not need to look beyond their borders for their cricketing heroes. They look to Shakib instead.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...home-shakib-al-hasan-ready-to-upset-australia
 
Its good to be confident specially having a test match against an Aussie.
However, Bangladesh is far from unbeatable. If he is talking about test than Pakistan, and India can defeat them even in Bangladesh. In ODIs they are not invicible either, current Indian team can thump them anywhere.

Anyways, looking forward to exciting seies aganist Australia. Hope, pitches are spinning ones like they produced for England series.
my prediction 1-1.
 
He's right but, if other sides don't send their 1st XI. They'll give teams a tough time, no doubt, but they are beatable.
 
He has a right to say this given Bangladesh have beaten Pak, Ind and SA at home but obviously they've got a long way to go before they can become a major force that they want to be, Shakib deserves to play for a better team though not gonna lie.
 
He has a right to say this given Bangladesh have beaten Pak, Ind and SA at home but obviously they've got a long way to go before they can become a major force that they want to be, Shakib deserves to play for a better team though not gonna lie.

The main reason for defeating India was Mustafiz. He was unknown bowler(mystery), but now since he is found out i doubt he would wreck havoc like he did in debut series. In last Asia cup he was pretty much non effective.
But i do think defeating bangladesh on their home soil in LOIs is still challenging but noway they are "unbeatable".
 
I'm happy to see a competitive Bangla - but they are miles way from throwing words like unbeatable around. Just reeks of insecurity from a side who is still desperate for acknowledgment.
 
I'm happy to see a competitive Bangla - but they are miles way from throwing words like unbeatable around. Just reeks of insecurity from a side who is still desperate for acknowledgment.

what he meant by 'unbeatable' is that even if Bangladesh dont win, they feel they can at least draw. remember this was a team that was losing to West Indies by an innings at home just 5 years ago.
 
Quite arrogant of him but saying goes that I am expecting them to beat Australia. The aussies will wish the pay dispute was still ongoing.
 
The main reason for defeating India was Mustafiz. He was unknown bowler(mystery), but now since he is found out i doubt he would wreck havoc like he did in debut series. In last Asia cup he was pretty much non effective.
But i do think defeating bangladesh on their home soil in LOIs is still challenging but noway they are "unbeatable".

The Fizz has a chance to comeback and become a force he once was but he's gonna have to work hard for that.
 
The Fizz has a chance to comeback and become a force he once was but he's gonna have to work hard for that.

He can't swing, he cant seam, he can only bowl cutters to get batsmen out that too on pitched that grips(slow turner). On green pitch, his cutters are useless too. Until he somehow learn the art of swing/seam, I dont think he will trouble the batsmen with cutters alone. Not to mention he is always injury prone. I have a feeling he will have injury hit career unless he also improves in his fitness.
 
How many draws without rain help in the last few years? How many losses and how many wins?

Having said that, nothing wrong in any player feeling unbeatable. It's not a bad thing to feel.
 
How many draws without rain help in the last few years? How many losses and how many wins?

Since 2013 the number of draws without rain help are as follows:

@ SL 2013
vs NZ 2013
vs NZ 2013 (rain on Day 5 which actually ensured NZ couldn't lose)
vs SL 2014
vs PAK 2015

Draws with rain:

vs India 2015
vs SA 2015 (outside chance at a win had it not rained)
vs SA 2015

Losses:
@ SL 2013
vs SL 2014
@ WI 2014
@ WI 2014
vs PAK 2015
vs ENG 2016
@ NZ 2017
@ NZ 2017
@ IND 2017
@ SL 2017

The wins are of course vs ENG and @ SL in the past year. So the overall record is 2 wins, 5 genuine draws, 3 rain draws, 10 losses. I expect the record will be substantially better over the next several years.
 
The future (recent) of test cricket of bd is brighter than anytime of their history. They are getting there soon.
 
Unbeatable is wrong choice of words. Difficult to beat us more accurate.

I think we are an improved team. What we need is more A team cricket for fringe players and more 5 match ODI series and 3 match Test series against top 8 teams
 
So the overall record is 2 wins, 5 genuine draws, 3 rain draws, 10 losses. I expect the record will be substantially better over the next several years.

Thanks. BD should surely do better in future.
 
Which big team have thy defeated at home recently? Thy are getting ahead of themselves here. Confidence and facts are two different things.
 
LOL! Unbeatable means your team doesn't lose. Bangladesh has lost several times in their past few home series to Pakistan, England and Sri Lanka. Whereas on other occasions they were saved by rain. India are very much unbeatable at home, England maybe. Not Bangladesh.
 
Unbeatable is wrong choice of words. Difficult to beat us more accurate.

I think we are an improved team. What we need is more A team cricket for fringe players and more 5 match ODI series and 3 match Test series against top 8 teams

Sorry bro but I guess Bangladeshi players just don't sell tickets. Probably why Bangladesh has only played a 3 matches test series thrice in their history.
 
Sorry bro but I guess Bangladeshi players just don't sell tickets. Probably why Bangladesh has only played a 3 matches test series thrice in their history.

Why talk such nonsense when not required? PAK played 2 Test series back in 2001, then frequently did against SAF, WI, NZ. Go & check how many Tests PAK played against AUS or SAF in UAE last time as hosts.
 
Why talk such nonsense when not required? PAK played 2 Test series back in 2001, then frequently did against SAF, WI, NZ. Go & check how many Tests PAK played against AUS or SAF in UAE last time as hosts.

I think the real glaring point is ODIs.

Bangladesh has played 13 "5 match" ODI series since 1985. 8 of those were against Zimbabwe.

That says it all.
 
I think the real glaring point is ODIs.

Bangladesh has played 13 "5 match" ODI series since 1985. 8 of those were against Zimbabwe.

That says it all.

That's good face saving effort - ODI becomes more glaring now, because "Test" backfired. PAK played 5 Test series last in 1992, when some of the kids here were not born, but that doesn't tell anything.

The source of that glare wasn't talking about what had been in past, rather what's required in future.
 
I understand English isn't 1st language for most here, but I expected minimum comprehension skills to differentiate between - "we are unbeatable .... " - and "we feel we are very much unbeatable ....". Even the syntext of "very much" I can ignore, but it's the guys' feelings of confidence at home condition - he is not telling that no one can beat them at home.

Sakib completed his BCom in 2nd class, and some how enrolled in MCom, not sure if he had competed that; surprised to see him catching off guard many here, who spends more time in English blogs than the guy spends in nets.
 
That's good face saving effort - ODI becomes more glaring now, because "Test" backfired. PAK played 5 Test series last in 1992, when some of the kids here were not born, but that doesn't tell anything.

The source of that glare wasn't talking about what had been in past, rather what's required in future.

Test cricket has become commercially impotent in general. So, I wouldn't fault Bangladesh there.

BUT ODIs are a good indicator Bangladesh is a nobody commercially. And I say that with tremendous respect for Bangladeshi cricket and its passionate fan base.

Any team that manages a meager five "5 match" series against quality opponents has a problem. Whether this has to do with poor performances, woeful administration, or a combination of everything is a subjective call.
 
Sorry bro but I guess Bangladeshi players just don't sell tickets. Probably why Bangladesh has only played a 3 matches test series thrice in their history.

Tests are a different thing but in ODIs there is no reason why we can't get people to come to the stadium.

We don't even have full crowds in tests at home. In uae there are more crows than spectators
 
Test cricket has become commercially impotent in general. So, I wouldn't fault Bangladesh there.

BUT ODIs are a good indicator Bangladesh is a nobody commercially. And I say that with tremendous respect for Bangladeshi cricket and its passionate fan base.

Any team that manages a meager five "5 match" series against quality opponents has a problem. Whether this has to do with poor performances, woeful administration, or a combination of everything is a subjective call.

While folks assume that commercially we are a nobody worldwide, we bring our own sponsors to the table. Our sponsors contribute to a lion's share in series in WI Lanka Zim Ireland. We toured NZ recently there was plenty of sponsors from NZ though. India too had plenty of local sponsors when we toured them for a solitary test.

This ofcourse should not undermine Bangladesh by any means. Infact it should highlight the failure of teams like WI SL Zim Ireland to advertise the sport, spread the game etc. Lanka cannot arrange sponsors for a series against us. Whose fault is it? BCB is far more professional than the boards of the country I have mentioned previously and hence we are doing well financially.

Infact a lot of Pakistanis are keen on hosting Bangladesh in the UAE because we bring much greater revenue but PCB still wishes to keep us reserved for a series in Pakistan.
 
While folks assume that commercially we are a nobody worldwide, we bring our own sponsors to the table. Our sponsors contribute to a lion's share in series in WI Lanka Zim Ireland. We toured NZ recently there was plenty of sponsors from NZ though. India too had plenty of local sponsors when we toured them for a solitary test.

This ofcourse should not undermine Bangladesh by any means. Infact it should highlight the failure of teams like WI SL Zim Ireland to advertise the sport, spread the game etc. Lanka cannot arrange sponsors for a series against us. Whose fault is it? BCB is far more professional than the boards of the country I have mentioned previously and hence we are doing well financially.

Infact a lot of Pakistanis are keen on hosting Bangladesh in the UAE because we bring much greater revenue but PCB still wishes to keep us reserved for a series in Pakistan.
The problem is cricket is thriving only in the subcontinent, whether it's due to the time slot (like NZ/WI) or the local boards being incompetent like WI, the fact is cricket is a sport mainly dominated by South Asia, more so in terms of popularity.

If you take out India you lose about two thirds of global revenues, even more the number of sponsors. Take out South Asia & then you have just the Ashes that'll probably be the only profitable cricketing event, even then the value will likely be halved or less.

The point is some of the other boards are incompetent or not in a position to demand more money, from sponsors or broadcasters. The SA region is also the fastest growing, when you taking into account the population of close to 1.8 billion, therefore it;s not a big deal that we manage so many sponsors.

I say we shouldn;t be arrogant because we can afford to be. If you want better contests in cricket then other teams will have to improve, whether SA can help others is probably worth discussing but there should be more accountability than what the ICC does atm.
 
The problem is cricket is thriving only in the subcontinent, whether it's due to the time slot (like NZ/WI) or the local boards being incompetent like WI, the fact is cricket is a sport mainly dominated by South Asia, more so in terms of popularity.

If you take out India you lose about two thirds of global revenues, even more the number of sponsors. Take out South Asia & then you have just the Ashes that'll probably be the only profitable cricketing event, even then the value will likely be halved or less.

The point is some of the other boards are incompetent or not in a position to demand more money, from sponsors or broadcasters. The SA region is also the fastest growing, when you taking into account the population of close to 1.8 billion, therefore it;s not a big deal that we manage so many sponsors.

I say we shouldn;t be arrogant because we can afford to be. If you want better contests in cricket then other teams will have to improve, whether SA can help others is probably worth discussing but there should be more accountability than what the ICC does atm.

Let's be honest cricket cannot be saved. India Bangladesh Pakistan can't do much.

What cricket needed was it to be an Olympic sport some decades ago. That would mean more fan following, countries investing in cricket and what not. Most people on earth don't know what cricket is.

Blame goes to ultimate administrators of the game. Everyone is busy counting the profit short term. BCCI BCB too are guilty of the same thing
 
Let's be honest cricket cannot be saved. India Bangladesh Pakistan can't do much.

What cricket needed was it to be an Olympic sport some decades ago. That would mean more fan following, countries investing in cricket and what not. Most people on earth don't know what cricket is.

Blame goes to ultimate administrators of the game. Everyone is busy counting the profit short term. BCCI BCB too are guilty of the same thing

How would cricket becoming an olympic sport help the game? Hockey is an olympic sport, don't see it doing too well
 
Let's be honest cricket cannot be saved. India Bangladesh Pakistan can't do much.

What cricket needed was it to be an Olympic sport some decades ago. That would mean more fan following, countries investing in cricket and what not. Most people on earth don't know what cricket is.

Blame goes to ultimate administrators of the game. Everyone is busy counting the profit short term. BCCI BCB too are guilty of the same thing
I agree with this but not the other point. Cricket is too complicated of a game, it's not easy to master it, on top of that there are just too many variables at play ~ pitches, opposition, weather, ground size, balls then day/night et al.

This is why even the best team of yesteryear's, WI, is like a minnow today. To be consistently good at cricket you need a pool of thousands of talented youngsters playing the game at a competitive level, outside of South Asia that's hard to achieve. Even in Australia FC averages have gone down massively, though you could say that the concrete slabs they dish out for tests these days encourage attacking strokeplay, thereby test batting & constricting an innings is less of an art over there. England is better only marginally though mainly because of Kolpak & the overseas players they have in the counties.

Then there's this, cricket is getting more & more expensive ~ https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/22/sport-the-spin-theft-ground-keeping-village-cricket
 
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Let's be honest cricket cannot be saved. India Bangladesh Pakistan can't do much.

What cricket needed was it to be an Olympic sport some decades ago. That would mean more fan following, countries investing in cricket and what not. Most people on earth don't know what cricket is.

Blame goes to ultimate administrators of the game. Everyone is busy counting the profit short term. BCCI BCB too are guilty of the same thing

Its a Myth that Cricket will suddenly become global phenom if it becomes olympic sport. Baseball was added to Olympics in 1986 and was removed from IOC list in 2008, because apart from baseball crazy nations rest didnt bother. Did you see European nations suddenly started playing baseball? Did baseball entered Indian sub continent? Field hockey is part of Olympics for decades and yet its not so popular despite more countries playing than cricket. Basketball is played in olympics, yet only handful nations take it serious.

Same will happen with cricket, some nations will just prepare a casual team for olympics and thats it. Dont expect that a magic would happen and nations will churn out strong teams. Its only gonna benefit teams like Ireland where cricket structure already exist. I don't see Canadians here will suddenly switch to cricket even if it becomes olympics sport.
Unless you have some what statistics to backup ur claim is only an emotional delusions, and lastly, its not BCCI's responsibility to expand gme, their only goal is to spread game in INDIA.
 
Sorry bro but I guess Bangladeshi players just don't sell tickets. Probably why Bangladesh has only played a 3 matches test series thrice in their history.

Neither do Pak, SL or NZ players as well in the test format.

The only places where test cricket sells like hot cake is Eng and Aus. India and SA do have respectable crowd in major venues but still way less than ODI's.

So yeah like they say glass house stone.. I hope you get the point.
 
It is possibility that both the test matches will be washed out. In other words undeserved draw and free rating points for Bangladesh.

Now i get it why Sakib said "he feels they are unbeatable". How can u lose if match is gonna washed out.
 
What exactly have Bangladesh done in test cricket that they feel unbeatable?? What a joke lol.
 
What exactly have Bangladesh done in test cricket that they feel unbeatable?? What a joke lol.

They drew the series with South Africa(#1 rank side back then)

on serious note: They did pushed England and managed to draw a series with them. Apart from that, they won a test match against depleted Lankan side.
 
I guess leveling the series against England has really given them a lot of confidence.

They drew the series with South Africa(#1 rank side back then)

on serious note: They did pushed England and managed to draw a series with them. Apart from that, they won a test match against depleted Lankan side.

Drew a series against one of the worst teams to play in the subcontinent. I mean it was a good achievement for Bangladesh but these type of statements are really just...:facepalm:
 
How would cricket becoming an olympic sport help the game? Hockey is an olympic sport, don't see it doing too well

Well, unless we are speaking about ice hockey (Huge in NA), that game itself does not hold a lot of importance around the world. But, people around the world atleast knows what HOCKEY is. Compare that to cricket, majority around the world has no clue what it is. So bringing the game to Olympics will give it exposure to the unknown. Cricket in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, Afghanistan is not going away anytime soon either. There actually is a huge market in all these places for cricket. Giving it more exposures will not only get people's attentions, more sponsors will be interested aswell.
 
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