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West Indies [291/2] defeat India [287/8] by 8 wickets to win 1st ODI

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West Indies face uphill task against India as format changes

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India v West Indies, 1st ODI
MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai.
Sunday, 15 December; 1:30pm IST, 08:30am GMT

The head-to-head count between India and West Indies in ODIs is currently an even 62 wins each, but the gulf between the two sides has progressively widened in the last decade or so. West Indies showed some promise in the T20Is, but a lack of consistency cost them the series.

In the 50-over format, their struggles have been apparent in the last few years, with the drawn series against England at home earlier this year being the lone highlight. Barring their 3-0 sweep of Afghanistan last month, West Indies have gone without a win in 16 bilateral ODI series since August 2014.

However, the return of Shai Hope, their top-ranked batsman in the MRF Tyres ICC Men's ODI Rankings for Batsmen, and the intensity of their newly-appointed skipper Kieron Pollard, might be the spark they need to revive their ODI form.

India, despite injuries to opening batsman Shikhar Dhawan and pacer Bhuvneshwar Kumar, will be confident of coming through unscathed, especially in home conditions.

Despite the absence of Dhawan and Bhuvneshwar, captain Virat Kohli has a few tough calls to make when it comes to the XI. One big question revolves around the spin duo of Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal; bowling coach Bharat Arun suggested, on the eve of the match, that they could play together on Sunday, and the slowness of the Chennai pitch will only help their chances.

Remember the last time

After sweeping West Indies 3-0 in the T20Is, India won the second ODI (rain forced abandonment of the first match) on their tour of the Caribbean in August and September earlier this year. West Indies opted to bat in the rain-curtailed decider, and got off to a flyer, with Chris Gayle and Evin Lewis adding 115 for the first wicket in just 10.5 overs. However, both fell within the space of five balls, and the hosts couldn't quite build on the foundation, finishing at 240/7 in 35 overs.

India lost Rohit Sharma early in the revised chase of 255, but Kohli put up yet another masterclass in a run-chase, and registered his 43rd ODI ton to set up the game. India did lose Dhawan and Rishabh Pant in quick succession, but Shreyas Iyer provided great support to the captain with a stroke-filled 41-ball 65. Kedar Jadhav then joined Kohli to finish the job, and India eased home by six wickets with 2.3 overs to spare.

What they said

Bharat Arun, India bowling coach: "We were looking at an ideal combination which gives absolute balance to the team. Also there was an option, where we could use [Ravindra] Jadeja as an all-rounder. So that really helped us and yes, there may be occasions when there are conducive conditions, both Kuldeep and Chahal can be playing together. But we will have to look at the overall balance before we decide the team."

Kieron Pollard, West Indies captain: "Not difficult to pick ourselves up. There are a lot of positives coming out of the T20I series. It's a different format altogether and [there are] a couple of different guys – six guys, I think – coming in who have been here since the start of November. So, they've been working hard to get an opportunity to see how the Indian team goes about things, and hopefully we can plan and execute it better."

Conditions:

Sunny intervals and light winds are expected through a hot and humid day, with temperatures hovering around 25 to 30°C. The pitch in Chennai has a reputation of slowing down as the game progresses, and teams batting first have won six of the last seven games played at the venue.

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What is the point of having 145kph bowlers in the domestics when we will keep selecting trundlers like Thakur? Let's get Mohit Sharma and Vinay Kumar too while we are at it. I haven't seen a management so scared of utilizing fresh talents, if we don't try new players against Windies who do we play them against?
 
I will never understand our selectors' love for mediocre trundlers despite having better bowlers available. Man this is annoying af.
 
What is the point of having 145kph bowlers in the domestics when we will keep selecting trundlers like Thakur? Let's get Mohit Sharma and Vinay Kumar too while we are at it. I haven't seen a management so scared of utilizing fresh talents, if we don't try new players against Windies who do we play them against?

+1
Irritating to watch
 
Where is shivam Mavi, Nagar Koti etc etc.
Khaleel and Shardul are junk.

Hope saini will recover soon.
 
Should be a good match. But why are they playing ODIs now? I thought only T20s and Test Cricket matters now?
 
Bowling looks weak. Jadeja 4th bowler and part timer Dube, 5th bowler?
 
2015- Starc
2017- Amir
2019- Boult

Next on line, Sheldon Cottrell it seems.
 
Cotrell is one heck of a bowler he can bowl in 140s but decided to lower the pace and focus on movement and swing and its working out for him very well just outfoxed the worlds best bat
 
India gonna lose this odi very badly without kohli and I just saw the bowling attack lmaoo India’s best bowler after Bumrah ain’t even playing chahal this is jokes how do u drop chahal omggg
 
Cottrell should go for no less than 4 crores in the ipl.

Absolutely brilliant bowler in limited overs
 
What a pathetic team we are playing today? Have Kohli and Shastri and that excuse of a selector, Prasad, any shame left?
 
It is so useless to back that excuse of a batsman Rahul in any format (except for hit and giggle) that it beggars belief that do these guys really have best interests of Indian cricket in heart?
 
It is so useless to back that excuse of a batsman Rahul in any format (except for hit and giggle) that it beggars belief that do these guys really have best interests of Indian cricket in heart?

He is one of the most inconsistent top order batsman playing currently. I don 't take his performances seriously. He is going to fail when you need him the most. :inti
 
It's a good to have middle order tested. I started hating cricket by seeing Just Rohit and Kohli bulldozing all teams.
 
Hopefully, Iyer and Pant seals the spot for India in the middle order for a longer period. That will solve India's most of the problems excepts a No.6.
 
Hopefully, Iyer and Pant seals the spot for India in the middle order for a longer period. That will solve India's most of the problems excepts a No.6.

If they can rescue us today then we can hope more such innings from them. We desperately need solid middle order.
 
Kaptaan kept dropping every prospective middle order bat including Iyer after 2-3 failures.
The whole lead-up to the World Cup was a complete mess. Iyer made his international debut in 2017. They dropped him and continued to ignore him despite massive runs in domestic cricket. Then the guy they did back for an entire year, Rayudu, was dropped from the squad at the last minute and couldn't make his way in even after they needed 2 replacements.
 
Does Suresh Raina still plays domestic? He IMO can be better no.6 compared to Jadhav.
He's on the wane. No point going for him when there are others scoring runs in domestic cricket. Suryakumar Yadav is another that could get a chance in LOIs.
 
This is a great partnership so far. I hope we can build a strong middle order as that's what our team is sorely lacking.
 
4) Iyer
5) Pant
6) Suryakumar yadav
7) Hardik
These guys need to back as they formed strong middle order
 
4) Iyer
5) Pant
6) Suryakumar yadav
7) Hardik
These guys need to back as they formed strong middle order

I like Surya but we need sixth bowling option. If Pant doesn't work out then we can give gloves to KL and play Surya at 5.
 
Iyer oozes so class, it's a pleasure really to watch him. He reminds of Azharuddin. He is exactly what India were searching from past couple of years for no.4 position.
 
I like Surya but we need sixth bowling option. If Pant doesn't work out then we can give gloves to KL and play Surya at 5.

KL is a replacement for Dhawan. Once Dhawan gets fit, he will take back the opening slot in ODIs. KL has booked that slot for T20s perhaps.
 
Why is jadhav playing?

He will be 38 by 2023 so theres no chance that he"ll play in the world cup.
When was the last time he won us a match.

Absolute braindead selection.
 
Would have liked a hundred. This is what seperates Kohli from these young players. Kohli always used to go for hundred in his younger days but likes of Pant/Shreyas throws it away.

A hundred would have been nicer but feel they played their part with their 70s, considering India lost three wicket at score of 80. But yeah, need to make these runs big ones going forward.
 
Finally Rishab boy showed some maturity.
He has great potential, just need to play according to situation.
 
Iyer oozes so class, it's a pleasure really to watch him. He reminds of Azharuddin. He is exactly what India were searching from past couple of years for no.4 position.

Perfect place for him.
Unfortunately we found after WC
 
Batted slow, Jadhav and Jadeja! Jadhav actually batted to his potential while Jadeja was hardly going for big one. Should have sent Shivam Dube ahead.
 
What ?? Now if umpire give lbw decison not out after watching reply they ( apposition) can go for drs?? No than why here jaddu given out . pathetic umpiring
 
What ?? Now if umpire give lbw decison not out after watching reply they ( apposition) can go for drs?? No than why here jaddu given out . pathetic umpiring

LBW is a subjective call, run outs are not, and unlike other decisions like a nick to keeper, they rarely get decided on field, most umpires with a functioning brain go to the 3rd umpire unless it is a clear as daylight call, the one of field sadly is an idiot and the right call was eventually made.
 
LBW is a subjective call, run outs are not, and unlike other decisions like a nick to keeper, they rarely get decided on field, most umpires with a functioning brain go to the 3rd umpire unless it is a clear as daylight call, the one of field sadly is an idiot and the right call was eventually made.

This descion same as brainfade episode
 
But third umpire not involved directly ,after watching TV reply you just can't go for third umpire .

On field umpires should not be deciding run outs, he should have gone to the 3rd umpire early on, the fielding team should not be punished for umpire's stupidity.
 
The best XI that India can play in ODIs:-

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli(c)
Iyer
Pant(wkt)
Dube
Pandya
Jadeja
Chahal
Shami
Bumrah

Can swap Kuldeep and Chahal or keep both but Jaddu is really a fantastic cricketer to have in the team, hard to drop him.
 
The best XI that India can play in ODIs:-

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli(c)
Iyer
Pant(wkt)
Dube
Pandya
Jadeja
Chahal
Shami
Bumrah

Can swap Kuldeep and Chahal or keep both but Jaddu is really a fantastic cricketer to have in the team, hard to drop him.

Who is Dube?
 
The best XI that India can play in ODIs:-

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli(c)
Iyer
Pant(wkt)
Dube
Pandya
Jadeja
Chahal
Shami
Bumrah

Can swap Kuldeep and Chahal or keep both but Jaddu is really a fantastic cricketer to have in the team, hard to drop him.

Not a fan of 2 medium pacer a/r, we are playing the wc in india not england or aus. We have 2 years and we need to find a spin a/r.
 
Not a fan of 2 medium pacer a/r, we are playing the wc in india not england or aus. We have 2 years and we need to find a spin a/r.

My best Ind xi
Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Pandey
Iyer
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Kuldeep/Chahal
Shami
Bumrah
 
Dube is pretty mediocre at the moment, nothing much in bowling while his batting is his strong suite even that also has very limited range.

Pandya if fit doesnt have much competition in Dube and Shankar. Pretty good position to in for Pandya as is rarely gonna be dropped on performance as there isnt much back up and will get to improve by having more oppurtunities to grow.
 
Who is Dube?

Dube's position is debatable but I think he is a better fit for no.6 position than Jadhav whose fitness is pretty below par for international level. He is tall and a power hitter and can be handy with bat at 6. But honestly, no good option available right now for no.6 position IMO.
 
Not a fan of 2 medium pacer a/r, we are playing the wc in india not england or aus. We have 2 years and we need to find a spin a/r.

4 years to go for that, there will be a lot of changes IMO. Jadeja would probably have to go somewhere before that period. It's tough to pick the right balance this early.
 
I used to be a big fan of Hetmyer but it seems that he doesn't care for anything except IPL money. He looks a excellent here because he wants a big IPL contract.
 
I used to be a big fan of Hetmyer but it seems that he doesn't care for anything except IPL money. He looks a excellent here because he wants a big IPL contract.

He is a quality player and the indian attavk minus Bumrah is pedestrian in white ball cricket.
 
Why exactly are India playing with 3 bowlers, 1 all-rounder and 2 part-timers?

Anyways, Dube should have batted at 6 or at worst 7. India made a mistake here. They used Dube as a bowling all-rounder in this game. He is basically a part timer with the ball. But I think he can be good with bat.
 
What’s the update with Bumrah? When is he returning?
 
There was a reason why Ash/Jaddu combo was removed and replaced by Kul Cha. Kuldeep and Chahal need each other. India is going back to old days. Unable to pick wickets. Credit to Hetmyer to put these bits and pieces players in place. Since we are nowhere close to world cup 2023, i am okay with these losses. THey need a few losses before they come up with a solid team. Players are getting injured frequently as well.
 
WI thoroughly has thrashed us. Brlliant batting by Hetmyer. He wants to prove a point to his IPL captain lol. Kohli dropped him after 3 failures.
 
WI thoroughly has thrashed us. Brlliant batting by Hetmyer. He wants to prove a point to his IPL captain lol. Kohli dropped him after 3 failures.

Kohli is probably like in his head bc rcb ke liye to chaltha nahin hamari Baja raha hai
 
I don't want Bumrah play in these matches with no real stake. He is needed only for Tests right now and world T20.
 
Our bowling is quite ordinary in white ball cricket barring Bumrah. And the constant chopping and changing has destroyed Kuldeep's rhythm. Chahal/Shami are inconsistent.
 
what a thrashing lol. india need to Improve in odi's but it's only a bilateral anyway.

Should have played saini, prasidh krishna instead of Deepak useless chahar and kuldeep etc.
 
Our bowling is quite ordinary in white ball cricket barring Bumrah. And the constant chopping and changing has destroyed Kuldeep's rhythm. Chahal/Shami are inconsistent.

They should never separate kul cha. This "batting depth" is fake. Does nothing. Pandya's injury also doesn't help us much
 
Good that india is losing it ...some changes in bowling and lower middle order will follow for sure
 
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