"We've had information from foreign players & their agents BCCI's pressurising them to not play KPL"

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan government has banned IPL broadcast in pakistan since 2019. PSL is still broadcast in India.

Pettiness? Politics?

 

[goashar]

but why kpl suddenly no other States leagues was arranged in such a scale in Pakistan. thr must be cricket crazy ppl around pakistan in other States also

Its like we will politisied things but if other people object we will go gaga over it.

if one board goes low to satisfy their political masters same ways other boards wil react.

 

[Executioner]

Any cricketer can play anywhere their board allows them to. But every board has the right to decide who is associated with the cricket run by them.

It is one thing having the right to do something, it is completely another thing doing everything within right when it's completely unnecessary.

I would say a good example would be BCCi not letting their cricketers play overseas tournament barring few, even those who aren't in the picture for national selection. If say PCB or BCB demand that hijab is mandatory for all female cricketers, how would people feel? I know these are distinct examples but just because you CAN do a lot of things doesn't mean you SHOULD.

 

[redmaverik84]

I have commented earlier on how its wrong on BCCI to do what they did. But playing the devil's advocate here, if lets say India hosts an international football tournament in Arunachal Pradesh or Ladakh(long shot), China would go bonkers and not allow international participation in it. So much so that they staple visas of people from this region. My point being, India or BCCI should have officially put out a word that they do not recognize the event taking place in POK/ Azad Kashmir and could have advised other boards against sending players there, but the way that's being portrayed here is wrong. This is from an Indian perspective.

I haven't followed KPL until now but their Azaadi anthem may also have ruffled a few feathers here and would have provoked people here. PCB on the other hand should have probably changed the anthem (I dont know the backstory) and should have foreseen this kind of trouble from a more powerful organization. (Btw I am a Die Hard Indian Nationalist but also consider myself to be a rational and feel BCCI/India should allow the KPL to continue as is if they care of the people there and if they consider them to be part of India just so that there is progress and livelihood becomes better through sport).

Thankfully the organisers haven't stoked more anger by naming teams after cities in J&K. So from the little I have followed and the interviews I have seen, apart from the Anthem I dont see anything provocative.

 

[IMMY69]

I have always maintained that Indians are an extremely insecure people.
This action smacks of insecurity.

If Asad Kashmir is part of India then why doesn't India govern it?
Banning foreign players from participating is extremely petty.

But small people always act like cowards.

If they were brave then they should:-

1. Try and take Pakistan Administered Kashmir?

3. Try and ban foreign players from playing PSL because afterall it is the Pakistan Super League and Pakistan administers, as certain Indian posters here claim, a part of India as contained in their own constitution?

But like I said insecure, small people will do petty underhanded things

 

[cricketjoshila]

It is one thing having the right to do something, it is completely another thing doing everything within right when it's completely unnecessary.

I would say a good example would be BCCi not letting their cricketers play overseas tournament barring few, even those who aren't in the picture for national selection. If say PCB or BCB demand that hijab is mandatory for all female cricketers, how would people feel? I know these are distinct examples but just because you CAN do a lot of things doesn't mean you SHOULD.

PCB and BCB can demand whatever they want inside their territory of governance.

PCB is trying to fulfill the political wishes of its government, by organising a league in Kashmir. Wonder why no such league is organised is punjab sindh or kpk Balochistan?

BCCI will do its part to counter that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I have always maintained that Indians are an extremely insecure people.
This action smacks of insecurity.

If Asad Kashmir is part of India then why doesn't India govern it?
Banning foreign players from participating is extremely petty.

But small people always act like cowards.

If they were brave then they should:-

1. Try and take Pakistan Administered Kashmir?

3. Try and ban foreign players from playing PSL because afterall it is the Pakistan Super League and Pakistan administers, as certain Indian posters here claim, a part of India as contained in their own constitution?

But like I said insecure, small people will do petty underhanded things

Why was IPL banned from being telecast in Pakistan?

According to China, Taiwan is its part, do they govern it?

 

[Asif321]

Pathetic from India as always .

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

So no counter to my points. Expected.

I didn't think there was any counter to a cricket board blackmailing retired foreign players and politicizing the game even further just because their ego was hurt. Which other cricket board does anything like this? Rather than defending them for the sake of defending them you should acknowledge that the BCCI is a bully who has no reason to do this besides showing the world that it is a bully.

 

[Bewal Express]

Not saying that BCCI wouldn't try to deprive KPL of players, but the idea that Matt Prior, Phil Mustard, and Owais Shah would put a high value on being able to visit India is rather strange.

That's a quick retreat. You should know by now how petty the Ind govt is and how far they will be go to damage PK cricket

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's a quick retreat. You should know by now how petty the Ind govt is and how far they will be go to damage PK cricket

PK cricket can be damaged more by stopping talent in PSL. No?

 

[IMMY69]

Why was IPL banned from being telecast in Pakistan?

According to China, Taiwan is its part, do they govern it?

I set my bar a little higher then what China does or doesn't do.
I know IPL was shown in Pakistan for many years until recently
However from what I understand people in Pakistan can still watch IPL is they choose to do so. Somebody living there will have to confirm this.

Bottom line is that your line of argument is always it's India's business and no one can't tell what the country to do... well doing petty things like this, mixing sports and politics. Is just another action of an insecure nation.

Nothing you say will change my mind so best you don't try.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India’s politicisation of Cricket cannot be condemned enough. Depriving young Kashmiri players of the opportunity to share dressing room with big names in &#55356;&#57295; is unfortunate and regrettable.<a href="https://twitter.com/hershybru?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hershybru</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/kpl_20?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kpl_20</a> <a href="https://t.co/uOgRuMXqln">https://t.co/uOgRuMXqln</a></p>— Zahid Hafeez Chaudhri (@Zhchaudhri) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zhchaudhri/status/1421366466226556928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FO spokesman

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Reading all those Indian news channels has made you oblivious to the truth

It's not being oblivious to the truth. Maybe they hold the same values of what is happening.

 

[Bewal Express]

PK cricket can be damaged more by stopping talent in PSL. No?

And you think the BCCI isn't thinking about that. And if you could you will do it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Rather than looking at it from their own perspective and defending their board come hell or high water as certain Indian posters are doing here, I would urge them to try and look at this from the perspective of Gibbs or Panesar, or really anyone who isn't Indian or Pakistani.

They don't care about the politics of Kashmir and neither should they. They are involved in cricket, not international relations. But if you begin threatening their livelihood then they are bound to get angry and frankly they have every right to.

 

[silentkiller187]

My suspicion lies on your post itself. As you said, if BCCI wanted to hurt Pakistan they would stop players from participating in PSL. Its a better league which can give competition to IPL in future. What threat does KPL and retired players like Gibbs/Panesar etc pose to BCCI?

KPL, since the time it was announced was always used as political tool like anything related to Kashmir. The fact that within minutes of Gibbs tweet most Pak ministers re tweeting it calling action against facist Modi and Kashmir atrocity makes me suspicious if Gibbs was asked to tweet this to rake up the political angle.

But if Gibbs is indeed speaking the truth, then pathetic stuff from BCCI no doubt.

I guess your not familiar with the term “proxy war”

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Now I am expecting Graeme Smith to say there was a misunderstanding and he didn't say that. CSA has already had a taste of being on the unfavorable end of BCCI in the past, they wouldn't want to hurt their finances etc.

Pathetic situation.

Holding a little cricket league is not going to cause any evil. It is only going to give opportunities to some local and retired players to earn some money. Pathetic from controllers of India.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

PCB and BCB can demand whatever they want inside their territory of governance.

PCB is trying to fulfill the political wishes of its government, by organising a league in Kashmir. Wonder why no such league is organised is punjab sindh or kpk Balochistan?

BCCI will do its part to counter that.

KPK, Balochistan and Sindh is already being represented in PSL.

 

[Major]

BCCI can stop anyone from participating in Indian cricket in any form. It may well decide to ban anyone who is part of the KPL from being part of Indian cricket and this right is of every cricket board.

Yeh, a weetern company deciding not to give jobs to an indian and you would be the first one to cry racism..

You will stoop so low to defend discrimination.

Pathetic, you no better than the cotton industrialist of USA during slavery era

 

[Major]

PCB and BCB can demand whatever they want inside their territory of governance.

PCB is trying to fulfill the political wishes of its government, by organising a league in Kashmir. Wonder why no such league is organised is punjab sindh or kpk Balochistan?

BCCI will do its part to counter that.

There are such leagues being organized.

There is attock premier league. Islamabad premier league.

 

[Golden arm]

So the alegations were proven to be true.

At first, I too found it hard to believe but sad to see it to be true.

BCCI is practically headed by Jay Shah.

A complete and utter dakkan of the first order.

Awaiting some weak lame excuse in 3....2....1.

He is Amit Shah's son who practically the king of and mastermind behind current gov.

 

[Golden arm]

Pakistan government has banned IPL broadcast in pakistan since 2019. PSL is still broadcast in India.

Pettiness? Politics?

Wrong is wrong who so ever does it. I condemn this.

 

[Bewal Express]

There was a time when I thought these sort of things just happened and people that used conspiracy theories were totally bonkers, and mostly they still are but as far as Ind is concerned no conspiracy theory is outlandish and most turn out to be true.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There are such leagues being organized.

There is attock premier league. Islamabad premier league.

With foreign players?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeh, a weetern company deciding not to give jobs to an indian and you would be the first one to cry racism..

You will stoop so low to defend discrimination.

Pathetic, you no better than the cotton industrialist of USA during slavery era

Pakistan and India are not friendly nations. So there is no comparison.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So the alegations were proven to be true.

At first, I too found it hard to believe but sad to see it to be true.

BCCI is practically headed by Jay Shah.

A complete and utter dakkan of the first order.

Awaiting some weak lame excuse in 3....2....1.

Dakkan? So PoK isnt a part of India?

 

[Major]

With foreign players?

Anyone could participate. It all depends on how much money is given and who is interested.

Thus your claim about premier leagues for other cities not happening is proven weong.

Kpl has a big funding because of the kashmiri business people funding this

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Dakkan? So PoK isnt a part of India?

No its not. That's why it is called Pakistani administered Kashmir.

 

[Major]

Pakistan and India are not friendly nations. So there is no comparison.

??

You are defending bcci here that threatens foreign players from doing what they want and where they want to play by not allowing them in their leagues.


That is discrimination.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Anyone could participate. It all depends on how much money is given and who is interested.

Thus your claim about premier leagues for other cities not happening is proven weong.

Kpl has a big funding because of the kashmiri business people funding this

So foreigners only for KPL. Thought so.

 

[cricketjoshila]

??

You are defending bcci here that threatens foreign players from doing what they want and where they want to play by not allowing them in their leagues.


That is discrimination.

BCCI has the right to decide who is associated with Indian cricket. Anyone associated with KPL isnt welcome here.

 

[Major]

So foreigners only for KPL. Thought so.

And as i sais, we have many other premier leagues going on while you complained why no other premier is going in ither cities.

Infact we even have one going on in quetta aswell.

But you will now try to change the argument as you have been proven wrong.

 

[Major]

BCCI has the right to decide who is associated with Indian cricket. Anyone associated with KPL isnt welcome here.

Than same way any person has the right to treat you with discrimination based on your color.


BCCI has no right herr to blackmail players. Such thing wouldnt even stand in court.

Also, bcci said no job in india to gibbs

 

[Abu_Hamza]

Holding KPL will make sure that there will be no IND PAK series for anytime soon in future and also the relation at the cricket board level between BCCI and PCB will worsen as it is between the two governments. And its for the players to decide that where do they want to earn money from. BCCI is not stopping them to join KPL but its within its rights to stop them from having any job with BCCI organised leagues. So let the player decide it. If KPL will be more attractive to them then they will join it or they wont risk their future chances of having any job with BCCI getting ended.

 

[Titan24]

PK cricket can be damaged more by stopping talent in PSL. No?

Well you have thrown this argument 100th time now, lets go over it.

BCCI wont try to stop foreign players from PSL at such a scale and it wont be something other boards will accept on face value. Reason is that other boards might be buying BCCI politicizing Kashmir due to known reasons but, they wont be buying politicizing an entire country and its league. Even with all the so called power in cricket they cant just go around flaunting it openly and KPL gives them a political mask to interfere with it which they don’t have incase of PSL.

However, remember Masters champions league? Well nobody does now after their flawed stunt. That league suddenly popped up in 2016, in UAE around the same time frame as first edition of PSL was going to take place. Guess what? Dhoni was promoting it, Sehwag was playing in it and some other ex Indian, Pakistani as well as other foreign players (Mainly retired) were roped in as well (Not to forget Dhoni was a BCCI’s centrally contracted player then and somehow was allowed to promote another T20 league). League never saw another season and it was inevitable as well considering how quickly and haphazardly it was setup with a lot of retired players. Not concluding anything though but, have stated facts and people should be able to conclude things for themselves.

 

[Bewal Express]

BCCI has the right to decide who is associated with Indian cricket. Anyone associated with KPL isnt welcome here.

You have been trying to destroy PK for over 70 years and these pathetic stunts will have no impact. It just shows how petty little Hitlers Inds have become. Do your best

 

[cricketjoshila]

Than same way any person has the right to treat you with discrimination based on your color.


BCCI has no right herr to blackmail players. Such thing wouldnt even stand in court.

Also, bcci said no job in india to gibbs

Yes no cricket job in India for Gibbs. Gibbs PCB can go to court.

No foreigner has the right to hold a job in India. Its a privilege not a right. Applies to every country.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You have been trying to destroy PK for over 70 years and these pathetic stunts will have no impact. It just shows how petty little Hitlers Inds have become. Do your best

1971 Bangladesh.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well you have thrown this argument 100th time now, lets go over it.

BCCI wont try to stop foreign players from PSL at such a scale and it wont be something other boards will accept on face value. Reason is that other boards might be buying BCCI politicizing Kashmir due to known reasons but, they wont be buying politicizing an entire country and its league. Even with all the so called power in cricket they cant just go around flaunting it openly and KPL gives them a political mask to interfere with it which they don’t have incase of PSL.

However, remember Masters champions league? Well nobody does now after their flawed stunt. That league suddenly popped up in 2016, in UAE around the same time frame as first edition of PSL was going to take place. Guess what? Dhoni was promoting it, Sehwag was playing in it and some other ex Indian, Pakistani as well as other foreign players (Mainly retired) were roped in as well (Not to forget Dhoni was a BCCI’s centrally contracted player then and somehow was allowed to promote another T20 league). League never saw another season and it was inevitable as well considering how quickly and haphazardly it was setup with a lot of retired players. Not concluding anything though but, have stated facts and people should be able to conclude things for themselves.

Bcci will simply ask the franchise to not hire any players that play psl. No commies associated with psl will be hired. No coaches or support staff either.

The players coaches support staff will simply have to decide where their interest lies.

 

[Major]

Yes no cricket job in India for Gibbs. Gibbs PCB can go to court.

No foreigner has the right to hold a job in India. Its a privilege not a right. Applies to every country.

Again discrimination.

If you lot were said the same thing in usa that job for foreigners of brown skin you would cry racism.

Yet when you do the same you see nothing wrong in it.

Sad really

 

[Nov15]

I am guessing you have been following the progress of this league and it's setup for a while now.

If you were, you would not have been asking this question.

Being an avid Pak news media watcher, it appears to me this KPL has Aabpara-Pindi stamp all over it. Unusual pumping up such a small league surely didn’t seem organic.

Also strange that Muzzafarabad got a T-20 league with a fair bit of pomp & show before cricketing centres like Karachi & Lahore/Punjab.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It's quite likely that most of these cricketers will tell the BCCI to go and take a hike. If not, than they will be replaced by someone else.

The league will go on as planned and the only thing that will really change is the world's perception of BCCI as an even bigger and pettier bully than most initially thought of them as.

 

[Bewal Express]

Bcci will simply ask the franchise to not hire any players that play psl. No commies associated with psl will be hired. No coaches or support staff either.

The players coaches support staff will simply have to decide where their interest lies.

And you think they haven't thought about it. But they will look like the tools they are and have realised the humiliation isnt worth the effort.

 

[MenInG]

PCB Statement

Lahore, 31 July 2021:

Pakistan Cricket Board has expressed its displeasure over reports that the Board of Control for Cricket in India has called multiple ICC Members and forced them to withdraw their retired cricketers from the Kashmir Premier League.

The PCB believes the BCCI has once again breached international norms and the spirit of the gentleman’s game by interfering in internal affairs of the ICC Members as the KPL has been approved by the PCB.

“The PCB considers that the BCCI has brought the game into disrepute by issuing warnings to multiple ICC Members to stop their retired cricketers from featuring in the Kashmir Premier League, further threatening they will not be allowed entry into India for cricket-related work.

“Such conduct from the BCCI is completely unacceptable, against the preamble of the Spirit of Cricket and sets a dangerous precedence, which can neither be tolerated nor ignored.

“The PCB will raise this matter at the appropriate ICC forum and also reserves the right to take any further action that is available to us within the ICC charter.”

 

[UzmanBeast]

Can i know how this would be "meddling"? (if indeed this development is true)

They're simply barring players who're playing a league in a disputed region governed by the Cricket board of the other disputant country. They're not putting a knife to their throats or something.

All these retired players are fully free to choose whatever they want. It's really funny to see all these "muh BCCI bad" comments without actually understanding the issue at hand.

And of course there's a pretty fat chance of all this being just another orchestrated political drama. Gibbs isn't really in a favor with his own board nor the BCCI so...

Does KPL in any way relate to the BCCI? Do they have stakes in the competition?

It is quite a low blow for the BCCI to get so insecure about a league which hasn't even begun.

There are entire threads discussing the status of Kashmir, but I won't get into that. From what I've heard, threatening players isn't really the role of any board, especially if these players aren't part of that boards cricketing system.

I doubt it would be a fat chance if Gibbs and Dilshan have opened up to the claim, but let's wait and see.

The KPL is not the BCCI's concern, I suggest that you think about how the BCCI would react if CA hypothetically threatened the other boards from sending their players to the IPL.

There is nothing you can say to defend the immature actions of the BCCI in this situation. PCB is well within its rights to create whatever league they want in whatever region of the country they choose to do.

 

[MenInG]

Being an avid Pak news media watcher, it appears to me this KPL has Aabpara-Pindi stamp all over it. Unusual pumping up such a small league surely didn’t seem organic.

Also strange that Muzzafarabad got a T-20 league with a fair bit of pomp & show before cricketing centres like Karachi & Lahore/Punjab.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...p-become-superstars-as-well-quot-Taimoor-Khan

Kindly read this detailed interview to understand what we are talking about.

Thanks.

 

[Titan24]

Bcci will simply ask the franchise to not hire any players that play psl. No commies associated with psl will be hired. No coaches or support staff either.

The players coaches support staff will simply have to decide where their interest lies.

Lol! Again, they cant do that openly even in their IPL committee and you really think IPL franchises will straight away accept it. If they would do any such thing it will become open as if suddenly a guys like Rashid Khan, Faf, Lynn etc. stop getting selected in IPL, it will only escalate things. BCCI management or Govt will have to be crazy to try and become straight forward villain in the world of cricket.

When billions are involved its not child’s play where you can say I will throw this toy out of the pram or will throw that toy out if you won’t listen to me. Potentially damaging IPL in an effort to damage another league would be last thing BCCI would want to do, let alone the stakeholders who invest money into it. They couldn’t even terminate contract of Vivo after the China-India face off. So I guess you get an idea.

 

[MenInG]

Former international cricketers are being threatened and warned by the Indian cricket board against taking part in the inaugural Kashmir Premier League (KPL) cricket tournament, organisers and players have said.

The KPL is scheduled to start from August 6 in Muzaffarabad in Pakistan-administered Kashmir and will be contested by six teams captained by Pakistan’s current and former cricketers – Shahid Afridi, Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Fakhar Zaman, Shadab Khan and Imad Wasim.

On Saturday, former South African cricketer Herschelle Gibbs tweeted that the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) warned him against taking part in the league which has been sanctioned by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

“Completely unnecessary of the [MENTION=14959]bcci[/MENTION] to bring their political agenda with Pakistan into the equation and trying to prevent me playing in the @kpl_20. Also threatening me saying they won’t allow me entry into India for any cricket related work. Ludicrous,” Gibbs said on Twitter.

The former South African batsman confirmed the developments to Al Jazeera before adding that “the message from Mr Shah [BCCI secretary] was sent to Graeme Smith [Cricket South Africa’s director of cricket] who passed it on to me”.

On Saturday, former Pakistan captain Rashid Latif also alleged that the BCCI was warning cricket boards against allowing their players to take part in the tournament.

“The [MENTION=14959]bcci[/MENTION] warning cricket boards that if there former players took part in Kashmir Premier League, they won’t be allowed entry in India or allowed to work in Indian cricket at any level or in any capacity,” Latif said.

The BCCI did not respond to Al Jazeera’s request for comment.

No Pakistan player has played in the Indian Premier League (IPL) since its inaugural season in 2008, while Indian players have not been allowed to take part in any foreign Twenty20 league, including the Pakistan Super League (PSL).

Pakistan Cricket Board has expressed its displeasure over reports that the Board of Control for Cricket in India has called multiple ICC Members and forced them to withdraw their retired cricketers from the Kashmir Premier League.

In a statement on Saturday, the PCB said “it considers that the BCCI has brought the game into disrepute by issuing warnings to multiple ICC Members to stop their retired cricketers from featuring in the Kashmir Premier League”.

“Such conduct from the BCCI is completely unacceptable, against the preamble of the Spirit of Cricket and sets a dangerous precedence, which can neither be tolerated nor ignored,” the statement added. “The PCB will raise this matter at the appropriate ICC forum and also reserves the right to take any further action that is available to us within the ICC charter.”

‘It’s all really very strange’

Taimoor Khan, director of cricket operations for KPL, told Al Jazeera that the league was aware of the threats and warnings issued to players via their agents.

“It has happened, the proof has come out and it’s all really very strange,” Khan told Al Jazeera. “There were messages sent to England’s cricketers too. We’ve been told that the players were warned they won’t be allowed to travel to India again if they take part in the KPL.”

In an earlier video message on Twitter, Khan termed the developments a sad thing for cricket all over the world”.

“We are monitoring the situation and are in talks with authorities on how to manage this. It’s a sad situation for the cricketers, especially the kids in Kashmir who were getting an opportunity to play cricket with not only the Pakistan stars but also sharing the dressing room with international players and learn from their experience.”


An email from an England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) licensed agent sent to Khan, and seen by Al Jazeera, alleged that a BCCI official called up the ECB and warned that, in addition to travel restrictions, the participating cricketers will not be “allowed to work in anything Indian cricket related”.

“The good news is that Gibbs and Tillakaratne Dilshan [former Sri Lankan cricketer] will be taking part in the league,” Khan added.

“We are extremely thankful to them. They are firm on their stance and fulfilling the commitment they made even though the pressure if enormous on them from the BCCI.”

Since gaining independence in 1947, India and Pakistan have fought two of their three wars over Kashmir. Both sides claim the region in full but administer separate parts of it.

In August 2019, India revoked a special constitutional status accorded to Indian-administered Kashmir in a move Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said was aimed at increasing development and bringing the territory into the country’s administrative mainstream.

Pakistan opposed the move, accusing India of attempting to absorb the territory without bilateral resolution of the ongoing dispute.

It has also accused India of attempting to change the demographics of the Muslim-majority territory through a new domicile law, which was passed by Modi’s government last year.

https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/20...ng-players-against-kashmir-cricket-tournament

 

[Shams123]

This is pathetic from BCCI. Absolutely shameless. This Jay Shah sounds like an idiot of the highest order. Proper BJP puppet.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Bcci will simply ask the franchise to not hire any players that play psl. No commies associated with psl will be hired. No coaches or support staff either.

The players coaches support staff will simply have to decide where their interest lies.

Is BCCI really that insecure?

Well. I wouldn't really be surprised. Shocking, the mighty BCCI is willing to stoop down to the level of a domestic league in another country, keeping in mind that the league hasn't started.

Maybe this interest should be taken elsewhere, because as far as BCCI is concerned, KPL is an effort to improve the standard of cricket in Pakistan by providing another platform for players to gain recognition for the domestic structure. In no way, shape, or form does this relate with the BCCI, so maybe it would be best for the BCCI to keep its head in matters that concern them.

It will be fun if commentators disagree to such terms along with players who want to make a living.

 

[Line and Length]

How are Indian posters on this thread actually defending their board/government for doing this? You have a son of a far-right leader, who’s somehow also the BOC of your board, making phone calls telling retired players to stop playing in a league. How insecure is that? What’s more disappointing is to see Indian fans defending this. It’s sad to see how people have become so brainwashed by a fascist government that they’ll defend their every move, no matter how grotesque it is. It’s a terrifying prospect and there are thousands of examples in history why this is a terrible idea. I hope Indians can realize this eventually.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Lol! Again, they cant do that openly even in their IPL committee and you really think IPL franchises will straight away accept it. If they would do any such thing it will become open as if suddenly a guys like Rashid Khan, Faf, Lynn etc. stop getting selected in IPL, it will only escalate things. BCCI management or Govt will have to be crazy to try and become straight forward villain in the world of cricket.

When billions are involved its not child’s play where you can say I will throw this toy out of the pram or will throw that toy out if you won’t listen to me. Potentially damaging IPL in an effort to damage another league would be last thing BCCI would want to do, let alone the stakeholders who invest money into it. They couldn’t even terminate contract of Vivo after the China-India face off. So I guess you get an idea.

I agree.

Isn't Vivo back as the IPL sponsor? What happened to Dream 11?

Strange considering that India wanted nothing to do with China...

 

[Mr Crickekter]

Frustration of India....
By doing this you can not change the reality of Kashmir

 

[Nov15]

Going by the outrage here, I’m assuming if BCCI launches a ‘Jammu Kashmir Ladakh Premier League’ and gets some international names to feature, Pakistan would be totally cool with it.

If you have power, you wield it. Simple.

 

[IMMY69]

Going by the outrage here, I’m assuming if BCCI launches a ‘Jammu Kashmir Ladakh Premier League’ and gets some international names to feature, Pakistan would be totally cool with it.

If you have power, you wield it. Simple.

I think it would be great idea if BBCI (Aka Indian Government did that)..
It would be beautiful. Just imagine Pakistani flags in the crowed.. the chants of Afridi...

A real slap on the face

 

[Bewal Express]

Going by the outrage here, I’m assuming if BCCI launches a ‘Jammu Kashmir Ladakh Premier League’ and gets some international names to feature, Pakistan would be totally cool with it.

If you have power, you wield it. Simple.

Couldn't care less if they did. But they would have to put their soldiers as the spectators as the locals hate everything to do with Ind.

 

[Golden arm]

I have always maintained that Indians are an extremely insecure people.
This action smacks of insecurity.

If Asad Kashmir is part of India then why doesn't India govern it?
Banning foreign players from participating is extremely petty.

But small people always act like cowards.

If they were brave then they should:-

1. Try and take Pakistan Administered Kashmir?

3. Try and ban foreign players from playing PSL because afterall it is the Pakistan Super League and Pakistan administers, as certain Indian posters here claim, a part of India as contained in their own constitution?

But like I said insecure, small people will do petty underhanded things

I consider blaming 1.2 billion people for the action of handful of insecure people which literally means son of Amit Shah wrong as well
There are millions of cricket fans on both sides of the borders who love to see sports beyond politics

 

[Ashmal]

Very predictable reaction shown by BCCI and Modi bhakts here....they will try to defend even the most indefensible of acts here.

But must say, it's quite funny to see them change their tunes with time.

Initially, they were like it's false news and usual conspiracy theory by Pak.

Then after Gibbs' tweet....they said Gibbs is a liar and has no credibility.

Then finally, it came down to....yeah, BCCI did it, so what they can ban whoever they want....lol

Atleast be consistent and stick to your point....but then can't expect much from Modi fans

 

[Golden arm]

How are Indian posters on this thread actually defending their board/government for doing this? You have a son of a far-right leader, who’s somehow also the BOC of your board, making phone calls telling retired players to stop playing in a league. How insecure is that? What’s more disappointing is to see Indian fans defending this. It’s sad to see how people have become so brainwashed by a fascist government that they’ll defend their every move, no matter how grotesque it is. It’s a terrifying prospect and there are thousands of examples in history why this is a terrible idea. I hope Indians can realize this eventually.

Summed up quite well!

 

[Majid Khan]

Gibbs’s tweet on this matter just confirms the pettiness and also deep rooted hatred the current RSS extremist Indian govt and their affiliated bodies (BCCI) have against anything related to Pakistan. They will go to any extent even when it comes to sports.

If India was today hosting a cricket World Cup for the blind and disabled , there is no doubt this BCCI on orders from RSS govt. would do everything they could to firstly disallow the blind/disabled XI from Pakistan to participate and if somehow the blind/disabled squad arrived due to ICC intervention - they would then do everything to make those blind/disabled cricketers feel unwelcome and give them a difficult time during their stay.

That’s the level of the Indian administration sadly , they will not even spare the blind and disabled if it gave them an opportunity to score political points.

 

[IMMY69]

I consider blaming 1.2 billion people for the action of handful of insecure people which literally means son of Amit Shah wrong as well
There are millions of cricket fans on both sides of the borders who love to see sports beyond politics

Poetic license

I perhaps could have added RSS Extremist Indians

 

[UzmanBeast]

Going by the outrage here, I’m assuming if BCCI launches a ‘Jammu Kashmir Ladakh Premier League’ and gets some international names to feature, Pakistan would be totally cool with it.

If you have power, you wield it. Simple.

Firstly, the KPL has no cities from Indian Occupied Kashmir. It is only focusing on developing cricket on Pakistan's side of Kashmir.

 

[Golden arm]

This is pathetic from BCCI. Absolutely shameless. This Jay Shah sounds like an idiot of the highest order. Proper BJP puppet.

Modi is mere Muppet in the hands of Amit Shah, Ajit Deol and Ambani! These 3 boys are ruining India

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Very predictable reaction shown by BCCI and Modi bhakts here....they will try to defend even the most indefensible of acts here.

But must say, it's quite funny to see them change their tunes with time.

Initially, they were like it's false news and usual conspiracy theory by Pak.

Then after Gibbs' tweet....they said Gibbs is a liar and has no credibility.

Then finally, it came down to....yeah, BCCI did it, so what they can ban whoever they want....lol

Atleast be consistent and stick to your point....but then can't expect much from Modi fans

I was thinking the same.

But to be fair, each argument is given by a different set of posters.

 

[ethan hunt]

Indians are insecure about so many things. From power to looks to so many other things, mostly indian men and often blindly patritotic as well. Its something that ive observed over the years and always wonder how the insecurity came about and the historical context.
Fascinating case study to be honest.

 

[Major]

Being an avid Pak news media watcher, it appears to me this KPL has Aabpara-Pindi stamp all over it. Unusual pumping up such a small league surely didn’t seem organic.

Also strange that Muzzafarabad got a T-20 league with a fair bit of pomp & show before cricketing centres like Karachi & Lahore/Punjab.

Attock, islamabad and many other cities have got leagues.


Kpl has got investors. The business community is involved in it. Some of its offices are in isb

 

[Bewal Express]

This league would have had no profile and would most likely died a commercial death pretty quickly and in steps BCCI to show their Hitleresque tendencies to give it the oxygen of publicity

 

[Ashmal]

I wonder how BCCI would react if PCB were to add a Kashmiri team in PSL

 

[Nov15]

I wonder how BCCI would react if PCB were to add a Kashmiri team in PSL

PCB wants PSL to survive. They won’t risk such stunts. Hence they launched KPL with likes of Gibbs, Panesar, Dilshan for “player development”.

 

[the Great Khan]

I think this is incident gives ever more credence to what many of us have been saying for years. The BCCI is a highly politicised organisation that is a tool to be used by the fascist regimes for its own ends. It's what fascists do.

No surprises there. The fact most of these guys are retired is even more pathetic.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think this is incident gives ever more credence to what many of us have been saying for years. The BCCI is a highly politicised organisation that is a tool to be used by the fascist regimes for its own ends. It's what fascists do.

No surprises there. The fact most of these guys are retired is even more pathetic.

Vast majority of posters here know it as well, even most Indians will admit it. It's left to a few types to keep relentlessly raising the saffron flag in every thread concerning BCCI.

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Going by the outrage here, I’m assuming if BCCI launches a ‘Jammu Kashmir Ladakh Premier League’ and gets some international names to feature, Pakistan would be totally cool with it.

If you have power, you wield it. Simple.

Please go ahead. Anything that provides some improvement of life for Kashmiris there will make any sane Pakistani happy. All I know is that on our side we don’t need half a million plus soldiers active to keep things in check

 

[Rajdeep]

Yep. Dakkan

And the logic is comical. As if other business activities dong happen in POK.

Lets say when we take back POK....we will take over this league. No problem.

But for now, let them exist.

BCCI is not ceasing the existance of the league, they are simply saying anyone participating in this league should not make a living in India. Monty Panesar for example works for India Today but he cant work there anymore if he wants to participate in this league.

India considers entire Kashmir belongs to India and occupied Kashmir is a land forcefully occupied by Pakistan. Remember Amit Shah's famous dialogue in Lok Sabha "Jaan de denge Kashmir ke liye" and how Adhiranjan Choudhury got scared after such ferocity shown by our beloved home minister? So any player participating on a league organized in a place which India considers as occupied, cant make a living in mainland India. Think that is the line of reasong of BCCI.

All the above is applicable only if Gibbs speaking the truth though. After Rihanna's fake tweet for which she charged money, I dont trust these tweets at all from celebrities and tend to look at them from suspicious eyes.

 

[Devadwal]

This is indian government stand which Pakistan & Pakistan people likes or not it's doesn't matter -
Jammu and Kashmir is integral part of India.
And if you play in so called Kashmir Premier League which blatantly violates sovereignty of India, then India has every right to BAN these players.this is simple facts as its gets which Pakistan fans don't accept .

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the moment Herschelle Gibbs and Tillakaratne Dilshan are the only overseas players who have confirmed their participation in the Kashmir Premier League. However KPL organisers have stated "the tournament will definitely go ahead as planned" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KPL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KPL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1421462407709396998?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[shariqnoor]

Once the pressure comes from South Africa, I expect Gibbs to fold and withdraw from the league.

It's clearly apparent that India doesn't want any media attention regarding Kashmir, which is what this tournament will bring. Hence all the pressure and blackmailing.

 

[MenInG]

This is indian government stand which Pakistan & Pakistan people likes or not it's doesn't matter -
Jammu and Kashmir is integral part of India.
And if you play in so called Kashmir Premier League which blatantly violates sovereignty of India, then India has every right to BAN these players.this is simple facts as its gets which Pakistan fans don't accept .

Indian Govt can stand on whatever it likes.

We are talking about cricket. Try and understand the difference.

 

[Devadwal]

Indian Govt can stand on whatever it likes.

We are talking about cricket. Try and understand the difference.

I understand but this is Indian government/Bcci point of view .Few week's ago your one of minster also said something if u remembered correctly which also come to under politicized cricket .

 

[YousafTheBeast]

This is indian government stand which Pakistan & Pakistan people likes or not it's doesn't matter -
Jammu and Kashmir is integral part of India.
And if you play in so called Kashmir Premier League which blatantly violates sovereignty of India, then India has every right to BAN these players.this is simple facts as its gets which Pakistan fans don't accept .

If it’s an integral part of India then why doesn’t the Indian government do something about it? Why are you guys allowing us to start a league in “India”