What are the reasons behind Asad Umar stepping down?

[TalentSpotterPk]

Asad Umar has resigned today or he has been asked to step down. What could be the reasons for this ?


1. Worst Economic performance in first 8 months/Public sentimemts ?

2. Cabinet members & fellow friends of PTI un-satisfied with his performance/lack of it ?

3. Imran Khan unhappy with Asad’s performance as Finance Minister ?

4. MilEstablishment order ?

5. All of the above ?



Discuss

 

[Mamoon]

I asked the same question in the other which I will quote here. PTI supporters on this forum have been desperately trying to explain this because they cannot get away with it without humiliating themselves.

PTI supporters who are mourning this decision are yet to explain why he was sacked.

For months, we were led to believe that he is doing a stellar job. The government was fully behind him and the Minister of Propaganda (Fawad Chaudhry) was also publicly enforcing his decision-making.

So what really happened? There are two possibilities:

(1) All the talk of Asad Umar doing a fine job has turned out to be rubbish. Perhaps PTI supporters need a lesson in finance and economics.

OR

(2) Imran believes that Asad Umar was doing a fine job but he buckled under pressure once again. The first instance was the Atif Mian fiasco.

OR

(3) Asad Umar was doing a fine job but Imran was wrong in getting rid of him. Looks like our PM and the savior of Pakistan doesn’t understand economics and doesn’t realize that things cannot be improved in only 8 months.

What hope does the country have when the PM is so clueless?

So which one was it? Now that you have had your time to mourn, pick one of the three options.

Unfortunately, every option is humiliating for PTI supporters. This is what you get for following a cult.

 

[Technics 1210]

I asked the same question in the other which I will quote here. PTI supporters on this forum have been desperately trying to explain this because they cannot get away with it without humiliating themselves.

No you did not ask the same question, you asked why he was sacked, when he wasn't.

@OP - Reasons will surface in time, but taking a lesser post typically indicates he wants to spend more time, perhaps with his family. In other words, my hunch is, he is ill. You missed this option.

 

[Mamoon]

No you did not ask the same question, you asked why he was sacked, when he wasn't.

@OP - Reasons will surface in time, but taking a lesser post typically indicates he wants to spend more time, perhaps with his family. In other words, my hunch is, he is ill. You missed this option.

I don't see the purpose of copy pasting my answer here, but your delusions of him "resigning" as Finance Minister have been answered in post #66 of the following thread.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...n-as-Finance-Minister&p=10221036#post10221036

 

[Technics 1210]

I don't see the purpose of copy pasting my answer here, but your delusions of him "resigning" as Finance Minister have been answered in post #66 of the following thread.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...n-as-Finance-Minister&p=10221036#post10221036

Good because I do not mind copying and pasting.

Effectively is not the same as officially.

You are meant to be a Doctor and Doctors are meant to be specific.

 

[Mamoon]

No you did not ask the same question, you asked why he was sacked, when he wasn't.

@OP - Reasons will surface in time, but taking a lesser post typically indicates he wants to spend more time, perhaps with his family. In other words, my hunch is, he is ill. You missed this option.

The mystery has been solved, ladies and gentlemen. The country has been debating all day long for nothing - we have the answer here. He is 'ill'.

It has nothing to do with Asad Umar failing in his role, or perhaps Imran crumbling under the pressure of criticism again. Asa Umar is simply ill, that is all.

I bow to your genius. Solving this mystery was as easy for your as blinking an eye.

 

[Mamoon]

Good because I do not mind copying and pasting.

Effectively is not the same as officially.

You are meant to be a Doctor and Doctors are meant to be specific.

You are taking straw-clutching to a whole new level.

Only in your world is a PM telling his minister to leave equal to resigning. That is a straw that even the most ardent PTI supporters have not dared to clutch yet. Perhaps Imran should offer you the now-vacant spot of Minister of Information (Propaganda).

"Asad Umar has not been sacked and there was nothing wrong with his performance either. He was in fact doing a stellar job and the government is very satisfied with him. However, due to personal reasons, he has resigned as Minister of Finance and has also decided to step down from the cabinet. We wish him well in his future endeavours"

This would make a wonderful official statement. I bow to your genius yet again.

 

[Mueez]

As a PTI supporter and well-wisher for Pakistan, we need to think first about Pakistan’s sake and then about anything else.

It is time that we and with that I mean whole ‘awaam’ and not only PML-N and PPP supporters need to keep check on the government.

And be it PML-N, PPP or PTI who are leading the country.

‘Awaam’ needs to step up and should demand what they deserve to get.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Most likely his poor performance and Imran's lack of tolerance for others. There is a reason he has married three times.

I think he was not ready for the job. It is rather easy to criticize people in charge from outside than doing a better job yourself. PTI has been bashing PPPP and PMLN from last 10 years and when they get an opportunity to run the country, the are proving to be completely unprepared, incompetent, and clueless.

 

[Savak]

Was watching Najam Sethi's show on tv, sometimes the guy has opinions i don't agree with, sometimes i feel he is too biased against the PTI and Army against the PML-N and PPP. But i listened to his take on the Asad Umar episode. He believes Asad Umar did not really prepare for the Finance Minister role properly or he underestimated the challenges, he didn't take tough decisions or lacked the tough personality to confront or convince IK on certain issues i.e. going to the IMF from day one, giving confusing statements. As time went along people within the PTI, the Cabinet and the Business Community felt he was not really the Economic guru or the guy to lead Pakistan out of the crisis as was felt early on.

Also other reasons were that Asad Umar was a very seedha sadha individual and was not like a typical cunning politician, the fact he did not join anyone's camp also contributed to his downfall and when his stock fell inside the PTI, he had no one to count on.

My personal take is that all of the above may be true but Asad Umar alone is not to blame. It was IK's decision not to approach the IMF early on. IK was on board with many of the decisions being made in the finance ministry and a new guy who will take over as Finance Minister will face the same problems for which no easy solutions appear apparent.

 

[Savak]

Most likely his poor performance and Imran's lack of tolerance for others. There is a reason he has married three times.

I think he was not ready for the job. It is rather easy to criticize people in charge from outside than doing a better job yourself. PTI has been bashing PPPP and PMLN from last 10 years and when they get an opportunity to run the country, the are proving to be completely unprepared, incompetent, and clueless.

Competency has to be defined. Under PPP because lost Bangladesh in 1971, the PPP nationalization policies completely wrecked the Economic reforms of Ayub Khan and our economy is still struggling from it all today, Grotesque corruption. I am not sure how PPP or the PML-N can talk about competency when in the last 10 years they have accumulated $60 billion in Debt with nothing to show for it. What have they done during these last 10 years vs what the PTI is doing now to prove they are competent?

 

[Pakistanian]

Most likely his poor performance and Imran's lack of tolerance for others. There is a reason he has married three times.

I think he was not ready for the job. It is rather easy to criticize people in charge from outside than doing a better job yourself. PTI has been bashing PPPP and PMLN from last 10 years and when they get an opportunity to run the country, the are proving to be completely unprepared, incompetent, and clueless.

This has to be one of the dumbest and most narrowminded things I've read on here.

 

[MosheD]

Dawn.com editorial says its because he was unable to 'control the narrative' and failed to prop-up confidence of the people in the economy. Imran's 'oil discovery' statement before they had even started drilling those depths must have been a part of it.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Asad underestimated his challenges while Imran overestimated the country's economic potentials. They were thinking that Pakistan is a goldmine which is in under dacoits custody & once they get the charge everything will get fine.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Najam Sethi On 04-04-2019 & on 15-04-2019 had predicted Asad Umar’s removal on his show at Channel 24.

Once again Sethi’s chirya proven right



As per Sethi’s assesment poor performance, Jahangir Tareen & Pindi Boys are main reasons behind Asad’s removal.




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[Bewal Express]

Najam Sethi On 04-04-2019 & on 15-04-2019 had predicted Asad Umar’s removal on his show at Channel 24.

Once again Sethi’s chirya proven right



As per Sethi’s assesment poor performance, Jahangir Tareen & Pindi Boys are main reasons behind Asad’s removal.




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Don't you owe us an apology after SS thick crooked son got mullered on Geo. Is that guy in PK or has he run off?

 

[Savak]

Have watched plenty of talk shows and here is the summary of reasons given

- Asad Umar was unprepared for the role. The reality is a first time govt learns the hard way that it is very easy to blame your predecessors but when you enter into the govt, you realize that your political rhethoric during jalsas were just rhethoric and that ground realities, practicalities are totally different and in fact you can also realize that the things you talked about doing idealogically in speeches outside of the govt may actually not be right for the country practically speaking. Bottomline Asad Umar had a good 6 years to prepare and do his homework for the Finance Minister role given that he was the blue eyed PTI boy for the Finance Ministry and he failed miserably on that front.

- Politics at a Macrolevel is also a lot about perception and giving confidence to all the stakeholders. This is where Asad Umar kept failing, his continous dismal statements about the state of the economy, indecision when it came to economic decisions from day 1, flip flopping, being reactive to events eroded all the goodwill he had with the PM and all the stake holders. He was too seedha sadha for the job, too professional and the lack of political bone hurt him, this professional straight forward approach works in business but not as Finance Minister of a country and politics

- Not being strong and firm with IK. IK wanted to avoid the IMF from day 1, but Asad Umar was either too incompetent to figure out that an IMF bail out was needed and that the foreign remmitances, foreign loans being received from friendly countries was not enough or he lacked the courage to press the PM from day one. Over time people in the cabinet and even the PM started losing confidence in his decision making and capabilities.

- Again not being a typical politician, he didn't join any group in the PTI and in the end he had no backers.

My overall assessment is the poor guy tried his butt off, he alone is not responsible for the mess but unfortunately he is being made the scapegoat and fall guy by the PTI and IK. But that being said Asad Umar should have prepared for the role better and he was just not up for the job.