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What changes should Pakistan make for their Super 4 game against Sri Lanka on 14 September?

Which side will win the Super 4 Asia Cup 2023 clash between Pakistan and Sri Lanka?

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PakPremi said:
Fakhar, Agha will be dropped for Abdullah Shafiq and Saud. Zaman and Wasin J will replace the two injured bowlers
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bowling attack looks so fragile without Naseem and Haris, Hopefully one will get into the playing 11.
These changes seems quite ok to me but i will drop Lord Faheem Ashraf too and will bring in Usama Mir.
 
With the injuries that have happened I will pick

Abdullah Shafique
Imaam Ul Haq
Babar Azam
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan
Iftikhar
Nawaz
Usama Mir
Wasim Jnr
Shaheen
Zaman Khan

I think they shouldn't risk Rauf and Naseem.
Shadab and Fakhar should be dropped.
 
shamaan said:
With the injuries that have happened I will pick

Abdullah Shafique
Imaam Ul Haq
Babar Azam
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan
Iftikhar
Nawaz
Usama Mir
Wasim Jnr
Shaheen
Zaman Khan

I think they shouldn't risk Rauf and Naseem.
Shadab and Fakhar should be dropped.
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Yes, now that the Premadasa is turning, I think 3 pacers are enough. I would take the unpopular opinion of having Shadab over Mir for this game, though.
Shadab's bowling has been sub-par these days, but in a must-win game, we'll need his experience, temperament, and batting skills imo.
Mir is a decent bowler, but he does bowl a lot of half trackers too.
 
Load up left handers, otherwise become sitting ducks to Walalage

Fakhar (L)
Imam (L)
Babar
Saud (L)
Nawaz (L)
Rizwan
Faheem (L)
Shaheen (L)
Shadab
Mir
Zaman

3 pacers (Shaheen/Zaman/Faheem)
3 sPinners (Mir/Shadab/Nawaz)
 
Asad T said:
Yes, now that the Premadasa is turning, I think 3 pacers are enough. I would take the unpopular opinion of having Shadab over Mir for this game, though.
Shadab's bowling has been sub-par these days, but in a must-win game, we'll need his experience, temperament, and batting skills imo.
Mir is a decent bowler, but he does bowl a lot of half trackers too.
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Asad T said:
Yes, now that the Premadasa is turning, I think 3 pacers are enough. I would take the unpopular opinion of having Shadab over Mir for this game, though.
Shadab's bowling has been sub-par these days, but in a must-win game, we'll need his experience, temperament, and batting skills imo.
Mir is a decent bowler, but he does bowl a lot of half trackers too.
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Yes I would be tempted to include Mir but I think they will stick with Shadab.
 
Rana said:
Based on what?

Sufyan Muqeem at international level will have to be forced off after 1-2 overs faking a concussion injury
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Based on the fact that they our current spinners are non existent. Sri Lanka brought in a rookie Welagade and he looks class.

Pak of the old years always used to carry a rookie or two in squad. How did the likes of Afridi / Malik get in to the squad? They were thrown in to the deep end
 
CricLegend said:
Based on the fact that they our current spinners are non existent. Sri Lanka brought in a rookie Welagade and he looks class.

Pak of the old years always used to carry a rookie or two in squad. How did the likes of Afridi / Malik get in to the squad? They were thrown in to the deep end
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Wallalage is no rookie they have just brought in from thin air. He was the leading wicket taker in the u19 World Cup, and if you followed the LPL (like I did) then you would have seen that the boy was a proper bowler for Jaffna Kings as well. He was bowling beautifully going into this tournament

Sufyan had his chances to cement himself as a banker for Peshawar Zalmi as their emerging player. I’m not denying there is potential but don’t just rush him in because you are all in awe of Kuldeep Yadav right now. Stay patient, there are better options than him.

Pakistan are better off looking at:

Abrar
Noman
Sajid Khan
Zahid Mahmood
Asif Afridi (if he isn’t banned)

These boys are not exactly the most athletic but they are all good/decent spin bowlers
 
Rana said:
Wallalage is no rookie they have just brought in from thin air. He was the leading wicket taker in the u19 World Cup, and if you followed the LPL (like I did) then you would have seen that the boy was a proper bowler for Jaffna Kings as well. He was bowling beautifully going into this tournament

Sufyan had his chances to cement himself as a banker for Peshawar Zalmi as their emerging player. I’m not denying there is potential but don’t just rush him in because you are all in awe of Kuldeep Yadav right now. Stay patient, there are better options than him.

Pakistan are better off looking at:

Abrar
Noman
Sajid Khan
Zahid Mahmood
Asif Afridi (if he isn’t banned)

These boys are not exactly the most athletic but they are all good/decent spin bowlers
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Noman and Sajid can bat a bit as well. Sajid is probably the one who can be a good utility batsman/fielder to go with his bowling
 
Rana said:
Noman and Sajid can bat a bit as well. Sajid is probably the one who can be a good utility batsman/fielder to go with his bowling
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i think zafar gohar can become a good hany option down the order with bat too and as we know how good he is in bowling and left arm spinner always asks u so manny questions while bowling.
 
People saying in world cup we will have spinning wickets have they even seen t20/odi matches played in India? Other than Chennai you don't see any spinning wickets in India Ahmedabad/Mumbai and other stadium pitches are absolutely flat and you will be seeing 280 plus scores in every match.
 
Weather in Colombo.... well anyone's guess but there is rain.

Pakistan have to win that game, but a no result will mean that Sri Lanka qualify for the final.
 
I think Pakistan should target WC as well. Better to go with this team IMO:

1) M. Haris
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) M. Rizwan (WK)
5) Saud Shakeel
6) Muhammad Nawaz
7) Usama Mir
8) M. Wasim Jnr
9) Shaheen Shah Afridi
10) Haris Rauf
11) Zaman Khan
 
With our current pathetic squad it won't make any difference however the XI I'd go for is:
1. Haris
2. Imam
3. Saud
4. Babar
5. Fakhar
6. iftikhar
7. Nawaz
8. Usama
9. Afridi
10. Dahani
11. Zaman
 
MenInG said:
Weather in Colombo.... well anyone's guess but there is rain.

Pakistan have to win that game, but a no result will mean that Sri Lanka qualify for the final.
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Fair is fair

We could have chased 193 against Bangladesh on a road in 25 overs. Who is to blame for chasing it in 40?
 
I really wanna see 3 to 4 changes.
Shadab, fakhar, salman, faheem out
nawaz/usama, abdullah/haris, Saud, Wasim IN
 
Rana said:
Fair is fair

We could have chased 193 against Bangladesh on a road in 25 overs. Who is to blame for chasing it in 40?
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AFG almost chased 300 in 37 overs, yes they had too but our batsmen are also allowed to use the brain and bat a bit quicker. They should have known about the net RR’s value in a rain-hit country.
 
Bring in Wasim Jr for Haris to give him some rest. Not sure what Shaheens finger is like but if needed, rest him and add in Nawaz. Haris in for Fakhar in the opening slot and lets see how he goes.
 
Right-arm fast bowler Zaman Khan has replaced Naseem Shah in Pakistan’s 17-player squad for the ongoing Men’s ODI Asia Cup 2023. Zaman joined the team in the morning today and will train with the squad at the RPICS in the evening.

Naseem injured his right shoulder during the match against India. He continues to be monitored by the team’s medical panel that is taking all necessary precautions keeping in mind the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2023.

Haris Rauf, who did not bowl on the reserve day of Pakistan v India contest as a precautionary measure, continues to recover well after he felt discomfort in his right flank on the first day of the match.

Team doctor Sohail Saleem: “These two fast bowlers are our assets and the team’s medical panel will provide them the best possible care ahead of the all-important World Cup.”
 
ritzy_123 said:
I think Pakistan should target WC as well. Better to go with this team IMO:

1) M. Haris
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) M. Rizwan (WK)
5) Saud Shakeel
6) Muhammad Nawaz
7) Usama Mir
8) M. Wasim Jnr
9) Shaheen Shah Afridi
10) Haris Rauf
11) Zaman Khan
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Worst team ever. The batting was terible and the solution is to make it even weaker?
 
Such a crap ODi players right now in our team on the basis on T20i

- Number one is shadab
- Haris (batter)
 
NeVerMind said:
This is where common sense would help whereby you just start with a 20 over game but logic has no place in cricket
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Tomorrow 7.30pm to 11.30pm low chance of rain according to met office uk website, somehow i feel shortened game is ON.
 
guys when you see rain 70% to 80% it does not mean that there is a chance of rain with a probability of 70% to 80%, it basically means that rain will take place but it will cover 70% to 80% of the area.
 
We had the same reports for last games but still got the game in
 
My XI for next match
1. Fakhar
2. Harris (wk)
3. Babar
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Nawaz
6. Iftikhar
7. Shadab
8. Wasim Jnr
9. Usama Mir
10. Shaheen
11. Zaman Khan
 
Rana said:
Ah yes

Once again let’s find a way to protect Babar and Rizwan, whilst throwing everyone else under the bus
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Why would I protect Rizwan? I've said it many times that Rizwan does not merit a place in the ODI side. He's useless in this format.

The only thing is against SL on these turning pitches, Babar and Rizwan will be sitting ducks against this spin. Better to use two left handers in the middle for this match.
 
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Apparently Pakistan has already announced their eleven for the match against Sri Lanka tommorow

1) Mohammad Harris
2) Imam ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Mohammad Rizwan
5) Saud Shakeel
6) Iftikhar Ahmed
7) Shadab Khan
8) Mohammad Nawaz
9) Shaheen Afridi
10) Mohammad Wasim Jr
11) Zaman Khan
 
Great to see Haris in place of Fakhar Zaman.. excellent move!

Just want to see Saud Shakeel at number 4 and Rizwan at 5..
Otherwise team is ok. ThankGod no Faheem Ashraf
 
IAJ said:
Under the circumstances, a decent team.
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Wished they had dropped Rizwan and not played nawaz. Pakistan spin department is the weakest out of all the teams in the world cup only Netherlands being lower which is sad. Usama Mir should have been played tomorrow, yes he struggled in the Afghanistan series, but can't judge him after 2 games his upside is much higher than any other spinner on the squad and I think Pakistan need to take that risk.

I didn't think I would ever be saying this about Pakistan but we are gonna live or die by spin in the world cup. We don't have good spinners and our Top 5 can't play spin just makes me sad to see a pakistan team this cluesess against spin. Saud is the only one that can play spin and I don't think pakistan will give him enough chances to succeed.
 
I expected them to go with Usama Mir seeing the non-effectiveness of our spinning allrounders on these lankan pitches.
 
Visaal-E-Yaar said:
Shadab is a special boy for whole management and captain. Should have gone with Mir he can bat also
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unfortunately they have made him the VC so it will take a bold decision to drop him. I know Shan was dropped, so they should have done this with Shadab also, but maybe they are expecting something speciall from him? We shall see.
 
Pakistan's spinners i.e. Shadab, Nawaz and Iftikhar will be vital. Looking at Shadab's and Nawaz's recent form, not much cause for optimism.
 
I want Saud to score 50+ because that's the only way he keeps his place in the side. He is forced change because Babar's talent identification is so poor he thinks Salman is better.
Saud is not privileged like shadab. They'll throw him out at first opportunity
 
Savak said:
Pakistan's spinners i.e. Shadab, Nawaz and Iftikhar will be vital. Looking at Shadab's and Nawaz's recent form, not much cause for optimism.
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Do we have a spin coach? Really could use one before the WC...
 
IAJ said:
unfortunately they have made him the VC so it will take a bold decision to drop him. I know Shan was dropped, so they should have done this with Shadab also, but maybe they are expecting something speciall from him? We shall see.
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Bunch of coward's in management can't take decision for the country.

Clearly we can see shadab is struggling big time with his bowling just send him back to FC. Should call abrar for WC.
 
Yati said:
Wished they had dropped Rizwan and not played nawaz. Pakistan spin department is the weakest out of all the teams in the world cup only Netherlands being lower which is sad. Usama Mir should have been played tomorrow, yes he struggled in the Afghanistan series, but can't judge him after 2 games his upside is much higher than any other spinner on the squad and I think Pakistan need to take that risk.

I didn't think I would ever be saying this about Pakistan but we are gonna live or die by spin in the world cup. We don't have good spinners and our Top 5 can't play spin just makes me sad to see a pakistan team this cluesess against spin. Saud is the only one that can play spin and I don't think pakistan will give him enough chances to succeed.
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Unless we find better spinners in domestic our player will struggle to play good spinners in int. Cricket
 
Ahmed216 said:
I like how fearless haris is
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He is very grounded, maybe with him being young and new to international cricket, he has no previous baggage to worry about. I met him in Australia during last year's world cup and although all the other players made time for a quick picture. He actually stopped for a short chat and was very friendly and down to earth. Hope he does well tomorrow!
 
NeVerMind said:
Do we have a spin coach? Really could use one before the WC...
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Well we had Saqi Bhai for a while as head coach, he didn't make much leeway with the spinners during his tenure. Sadly, we are not spoilt for quality spinners just like all rounders. We had our peak with Hafeez, Ajmal, Razzaq, Afridi, Mahmood, Malik. Time for us to do a talent watch for spinners and all rounders as clearly domestically they are lacking.
 
Pakistan has 4 years to plan for the ODI WC which they knew would be played in India. How the hell can you not prepare a pipeline of spinners and just keep your eggs in 2-3 players? Did no one realize, plan that the 2-3 golden boys could lose form and be struggling for confidence and therefore there had to be another 3-4 spinners in the pipeline who should have been prepared and ready?

The only constant in the last 4 years is Babar Azam the captain and he needs to be held to account once the WC is over.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
We need Fakhar at the WC though otherwise we have 0 chance.
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It is a shocker that a player we backed for 6 years, we axe moments before the world cup with no real replacement tried and tested. I think he is being 'rested' and will be back regardless of Haris performance. Haris and Fakhar opening with Azam at 3 and Imam at 4 would be interesting but we have made our bed, we cannot change the entire script overnight so players like Fakhar will go to the WC. let's hope he can fire on those Indian pitches which is what am holding out for.
 
Why do they need to announce the playing 11 a day before the game . Makes no tactical sense whatsoever
 
For tomorows game hopefully they don't open with Haris that'll be to much pressure on the kid since we have no other opening options.

My Lineup would be

1. Imam ul Haq
2. Mohammad Rizwan
3. Babar Azam
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Ifthikar Ahmad
6. Mohammad Haris
7. Shadab Khan
8. Mohammad Nawaz
9. Shaheen Shah Afridi
10. Mohammad Wasim Jr.
11. Zaman Khan

Saud is a true #4 if he is to be given a proper chance has to be at that spot. If haris sohail could have stayed healthy he would have been great on spinning tracks.

Batting Position Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R
3 10 1 2 1 0 130 468 52.00 80.97
4 14 2 0 7 1 89* 596 49.67 86.00
5 17 2 0 6 0 89 638 42.53 86.92
6 1 0 0 0 0 39 39 39.00 139.29
7 2 0 0 0 0 6 8 4.00 61.54
Overall 44 5 2 14 1 130 1749 44.85 85.48
 
msb314 said:
Good team but still no Usama?
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I think they are givng one last chance to Nawaz..and probably they have gone for the left arm option in Nawaz..as other left arm spinners are doing good..so they included Nawaz.. If he doesnt perform tomorrow..he will be out of WC squad..I think….
 
MenInG said:
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They made a blunder dropping fakhar zaman. The person to be dropped was shadab but once again favoritism rears its ugly head.

Harris is not an opener and will put a tremendous pressure on an already weak batting lineup. With Nawaz in, he should have taken the spot of Shadab. Pakistan needs enforcers at the tail-end of the lineup, and Iftikhar & Harris are the right choices.

Should have gone with:

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Salman
Iftikhar
Nawaz
Shaheen
Wasim Jr
Zaman Khan
 
Drop Agha for Muhammad Haris. Bring Fakhar down to number 5 and open with Haris.

Drop Faheem for Nawaz. I'd still prefer Nawaz over Imad as he is proper left arm orthodox. Replace injured bowlers with Zaman and M. Wasim.
 
I’m impressed by the changes they made.

Mohammad Wasim Jr is clearly better than Faheem Jr. I like Fakhar Zaman and didn’t want him to have to be dropped but he’s in such terrible form right now.

Saud Shakeel should be playing at 4 instead of Rizwan. I trust Nawaz’s bowling almost more than Shadab’s at this point.

Let’s see how Mohammad Harris plays, I think we’ll have a good idea on our final squad depending on his performance.
 
I am surprise with harris inclusion instead of Abduallah Shafiq.

Harris is good for T20s only but not suitable to play ODIs.
 
Fully back the decision to drop Fakhar Zaman. You cannot keep giving such golden boy treatment to a player for long. No one is bigger than the game. There is a reason why Fakhar has not bothered to develop his technique or improve his leg side play or game against the short ball i.e. the management keeps telling him, don't worry about 5-6 failures, when you will click you will win us the game. Enough of this nonsense, you perform in almost every second to third game if you want to remain in the team, enough free rides.

This is the same approach which should have been adopted against the likes of Shadab and Nawaz as well. I like the ruthless approach India has, they do not carry any passengers and if someone doesn't perform for 2-3 games in a row, they bench him for someone else on the bench. Look at SooryaKumar Yadav, the guy was the next big thing in the T-20 WC in 2022 but a couple of failures and the team management realized that the guy is not ready to play for India in ODI Cricket.

There is a reason why India is on the top of the rankings whereas Pakistan is in the bottom tier. Complete professionalism in all aspects of the game on and off the field.
 
1 Mohammad Haris, 2 Imam-ul-Haq, 3 Babar Azam (capt), 4 Mohammad Rizwan (wk), 5 Saud Shakeel, 6 Iftikhar Ahmed, 7 Shadab Khan, 8 Mohammad Nawaz, 9 Mohammad Wasim, 10 Shaheen Shah Afridi, 11 Zaman Khan.

Dangerous spinning duo of Shadab and Nawaz must be sending shivers
 
Wow I wasn't expecting 5 changes!

Really have shaken the team up - much needed I think.

I'd liked to have seen Abdullah Shafique given a chance also.
 
Savak said:
Fully back the decision to drop Fakhar Zaman. You cannot keep giving such golden boy treatment to a player for long. No one is bigger than the game. There is a reason why Fakhar has not bothered to develop his technique or improve his leg side play or game against the short ball i.e. the management keeps telling him, don't worry about 5-6 failures, when you will click you will win us the game. Enough of this nonsense, you perform in almost every second to third game if you want to remain in the team, enough free rides.

This is the same approach which should have been adopted against the likes of Shadab and Nawaz as well. I like the ruthless approach India has, they do not carry any passengers and if someone doesn't perform for 2-3 games in a row, they bench him for someone else on the bench. Look at SooryaKumar Yadav, the guy was the next big thing in the T-20 WC in 2022 but a couple of failures and the team management realized that the guy is not ready to play for India in ODI Cricket.

There is a reason why India is on the top of the rankings whereas Pakistan is in the bottom tier. Complete professionalism in all aspects of the game on and off the field.
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Because of Ganguly, Dhoni and Kohli. 3 visionary leaders. We've had Inzy who was good for a while and Misbah who helped restore pride. But no visionaries.
 
Harris and Fakhar would've been better choice as an opening pair but I guess we will stick with the stat padder Imam.
 
160KPH said:
I’m impressed by the changes they made.

Mohammad Wasim Jr is clearly better than Faheem Jr. I like Fakhar Zaman and didn’t want him to have to be dropped but he’s in such terrible form right now.

Saud Shakeel should be playing at 4 instead of Rizwan. I trust Nawaz’s bowling almost more than Shadab’s at this point.

Let’s see how Mohammad Harris plays, I think we’ll have a good idea on our final squad depending on his performance.
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Wasim I'm never convinced by. Seems brainless as a batsman and as a bowler Aus and England will end him.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Wasim I'm never convinced by. Seems brainless as a batsman and as a bowler Aus and England will end him.
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His batting is completely useless, but then again it’s not like Faheem is some world beater with the bat. The difference though is that Wasim Jr can make legit contributions with the ball, particularly towards the end of innings.
 
Ramiz Raja on his YT

“India have given Pakistan a ray of hope with the win over Sri Lanka. Now we've to see if Pakistan can take benefit from that, or whether they will be low on spirits because of the defeat against India. They need some time off the game, they have to be mentally switched-off, they got a reserve day. They've got a good two-day rest period where they shouldn't think of cricket or the defeat but get together and talk,”

“If anyone needs special practice, they can take it. Go to pool, relax. Don't touch social media, don't watch television channels. There won't be anything good there because whole Pakistan is disappointed. Get united. You point fingers at each other after such defeats, that too against India. That shouldn't happen. I'm sure Babar Azam has united this team really well, and his work is to assure his players and get the team high in spirit ahead of the Sri Lanka clash."
 
I don't understand why we tend to be dependent on others in every major tournament.

It seems like that we may be lacking the abilities to perform at our best.
 
Yati said:
For tomorows game hopefully they don't open with Haris that'll be to much pressure on the kid since we have no other opening options.

My Lineup would be

1. Imam ul Haq
2. Mohammad Rizwan
3. Babar Azam
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Ifthikar Ahmad
6. Mohammad Haris
7. Shadab Khan
8. Mohammad Nawaz
9. Shaheen Shah Afridi
10. Mohammad Wasim Jr.
11. Zaman Khan

Saud is a true #4 if he is to be given a proper chance has to be at that spot. If haris sohail could have stayed healthy he would have been great on spinning tracks.

Batting Position Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R
3 10 1 2 1 0 130 468 52.00 80.97
4 14 2 0 7 1 89* 596 49.67 86.00
5 17 2 0 6 0 89 638 42.53 86.92
6 1 0 0 0 0 39 39 39.00 139.29
7 2 0 0 0 0 6 8 4.00 61.54
Overall 44 5 2 14 1 130 1749 44.85 85.48
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Makes sense ..if the ball gets swing in first 5 overs .. haris will be sitting duck... rizwaz better to open ..if he falls early then haris
 
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