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What do you think about Pink Ball and Day/Night Test cricket?

I still don't trust that pink color. No consistency in wear and tear. You can predict what red ball will look like in certain overs in given conditions and bowlers used. Pink ball has so far tricked me.
 
It is same for both the Teams .... but they continuesly have to mess with things .... doesn’t matter if it is good or bad ..... it has to be a different twist. Also, they always come up with some logical justification for it and stick it in the system. People put up with it ..... for the love of the game !!!!!
 
I just hope BCCI never agrees to this ridiculous Pink ball joke, not to mention D/N test will never be feasible in India as it will negate spin bowling because of dew. India should continue to play traiditional red ball test.
BCCI havent openly accepted or rejected the proposal but one can wonder that they aren't keen on it, otherwise im sure ECB would've like to host one of the test match as D/N encounter next year when they host India tor 5 match series.
 
I just hope BCCI never agrees to this ridiculous Pink ball joke, not to mention D/N test will never be feasible in India as it will negate spin bowling because of dew. India should continue to play traiditional red ball test.
BCCI havent openly accepted or rejected the proposal but one can wonder that they aren't keen on it, otherwise im sure ECB would've like to host one of the test match as D/N encounter next year when they host India tor 5 match series.

ECB wouldn't have been keen on hosting one next summer as they wouldn't have fit in with the foreign TV markets.
 
ECB wouldn't have been keen on hosting one next summer as they wouldn't have fit in with the foreign TV markets.

If it means targetting Indian audience then it wouldn't matter. There is hardly any Indian public that watch test matches :misbah
 
absolutely not.it takes the reverse swing and spin away so very little advantages for asian teams..asian should not play day and night tests..
 
I just hope BCCI never agrees to this ridiculous Pink ball joke, not to mention D/N test will never be feasible in India as it will negate spin bowling because of dew. India should continue to play traiditional red ball test.
BCCI havent openly accepted or rejected the proposal but one can wonder that they aren't keen on it, otherwise im sure ECB would've like to host one of the test match as D/N encounter next year when they host India tor 5 match series.

Not much dew in South India, especially in Summer. We can play day night test just fine in Chennai, Kochi, Vizag, Hyderabad and Bangalore just fine.
 
Another day/night test done and dusted - has it changed anyone’s mind?

I'm in favour. Captains have to bear in mind that the match is Day/Nighter and batting can be hard in the final session so it tests the abilities/tactics well.
 
It's a work in progress but we have come a long way from the apprehension that greeted the concept 2 years ago. I think it's definitely here to stay. Don't see the point of having day-night test matches in Dubai though.
 
It's been exciting to watch. The pink ball seems to be more durable than the red kookaburra and more responsive, likely has extra coating. Bairstow said it felt a lot harder than the normal.

SA need to start as well. They have the pitches for it.
 
Financially it seems to be good as there will be more viewers on TV. From the game's perspective it adds a new variable to the equation: playing under lights. Right now the strategy is a bit monotonous. Be careful for the first hour of play every morning, pitch deteriorates on day 4 and 5 so bat first if you win the toss unless it's as green as a lawn, declare after tea. It'll be interesting to see how teams handle this new variable now. It makes the game a bit more exciting because how the pitch will play under lights is condition dependent. There can't an 'applies to all' strategy. This can have an effect on team composition as well as declaration strategies. I'm against phasing out the full day test though. It should remain as the primary option.
 
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Financially it seems to be good as there will be more viewers on TV. From the game's perspective it adds a new variable to the equation: playing under lights. Right now the strategy is a bit monotonous. Be careful for the first hour of play every morning, pitch deteriorates on day 4 and 5 so bat first if you win the toss unless it's as green as a lawn, declare after tea. It'll be interesting to see how teams handle this new variable now. It makes the game a bit more exciting because how the pitch will play under lights is condition dependent. There can't an 'applies to all' strategy. This can have an effect on team composition as well as declaration strategies. I'm against phasing out the full day test though. It should remain as the primary option.

The only thing is that it won't work in all countries.

UAE day/night Tests haven't been great so far.
 
It looks good but this increases luck factor in cricket when toss already plays a key part in the outcome of a game. The team which gets more batting under lights in Australia usually gets a disadvantage where as bowling under lights in UAE, subcontinent becomes difficult as it becomes harder to reverse the ball.
There are also some visibility issues with pink ball at night.

I'm satisfied as long as it remains a secondary option to day tests. Maybe, 1 in 5 tests at this stage is tolerable.
 
The only thing is that it won't work in all countries.

UAE day/night Tests haven't been great so far.

Yes I agree. But TV ratings didn't improve? Turn out at the stadium might not increase much as not many people would want to spend their evenings in a stadium watching test cricket :). I was just trying to say anything that makes our dying format more exciting/pulls more people should be tried/experimented with.
 
Yes I agree. But TV ratings didn't improve? Turn out at the stadium might not increase much as not many people would want to spend their evenings in a stadium watching test cricket :). I was just trying to say anything that makes our dying format more exciting/pulls more people should be tried/experimented with.

I was basically agreeing with your initial post and adding a point. :)

Anything that's increasing viewership should of course be considered. Unlike four-day Tests, I think D/N Test cricket has potential.
 
I was basically agreeing with your initial post and adding a point. :)

Anything that's increasing viewership should of course be considered. Unlike four-day Tests, I think D/N Test cricket has potential.

Yeah. Four day Tests would be the final nail on Test cricket's coffin. Let's just hope they drop that idea. Looking forward to more day-night test matches.
 
It has potential no doubt. The good thing about DN cricket in Australia is that people in the UK can tune in. Want it to be experimented in NZ and South Africa next.

Should keep DN cricket away from the UAE though.
 
I disagree with people who don't think it should be held in UAE. It may not increase crowds that much but it could increase TV figures as people can watch it after work. Also, UAE can be incredibly hot during the day and let's not forget the first day night Test between WI and Pakistan was a classic.
 
Concerns raised over 'soft' pink ball ahead of Perth day-night Test

The manufacturer of the pink ball used for day-night Tests in Australia has defended its product amid fresh concerns over its durability.

Australia A seamer Sean Abbott said the ball had gone "soft" as Pakistan's batsmen, who traditionally struggle on the bouncier conditions on these shores, scored heavily in their first long-form game of the tour.

But Kookaburra claim there is little difference from the ball used last season, saying the surface had played a bigger factor in the ball wearing.

The Australia A game at Perth's Optus Stadium is not only a dress rehearsal for Test aspirants, but also for the pink ball to be used for the first time at the venue next month.

Australia has hosted Tests under lights at the Adelaide Oval and the Gabba in Brisbane, but not at Perth's new stadium.

Kookaburra has made several changes to the pink ball, which copped plenty of criticism over its durability and visibility leading to its unveiling for cricket's first day-night Test four years ago.

The latest feedback is at odds with the pink ball's reputation for being bowler-friendly, particularly during twilight when the new ball tends to swing more as floodlights take over from natural light.

"The pink ball got a bit soft as it tends to do over here," Abbott said. "If we were able to bowl a harder ball for longer periods we would have produced a lot more opportunities."

Kookaburra has come under fire before for its traditional red ball, most notably in 2015 after several replacements were needed during the Perth Test against New Zealand. One new ball lasted just three deliveries.

Curators in Adelaide and Brisbane have tailored their Test strips by leaving on extra grass to slow down the deterioration of the pink ball.

An extra pressure for curators at Perth Stadium is CA's goal for pitches this year to earn a rating of "good" or "very good". It was rated "average", the lowest pass mark, last year by the International Cricket Council after a match where batsmen were struck due to uneven bounce.

A spokesman for Kookaburra said the ball deteriorated more on a flat wicket.

"The pink balls to be used in Test and first-class matches this summer have minimal difference to last summer where balls showed improved resilience from previous season," Kookaburra said.

"As we say with all balls, but particularly the pink ball, the pitch plays the most important part in determining the way a match is played and how the ball naturally deteriorates.

"From reports it seems like the track was quite flat so naturally that's going to mean a different rate of deterioration than on a green seaming wicket.

"The last pink ball Test in Australia was in Brisbane earlier in the year where teams made totals of 144, 139 and 323, and there wasn't any discussion around the ball's hardness at that Test.

"Of course, good batting by Pakistan might be a simple explanation too."

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...-of-perth-day-night-test-20191112-p539z7.html
 
Yasir and Shaheen scoring would point that way but then again i would be accused of bias, degrading Pak batsmen etc. So never mind.
 
Yasir and Shaheen scoring would point that way but then again i would be accused of bias, degrading Pak batsmen etc. So never mind.

Well they outscored all but one of Australias batting, which included Khawaja, burns and head all capable test batsmen so its all in the perception
 
Speaking from experience, It's way harder to hit the soft ball as compared to the harder bowl. So I find it hard to believe that the softer ball helps the batsmen score more
 
Also Yasir and Shaheen didn't face an old ball. The ball was still semi new when they batted.
 
Lol if the ball was so soft, why didn't the Australia A batsmen capitalize?
 
To be completely honest, the Perth curator has followed the Brisbane one in experimenting with leaving the wicket a bit less green than is usually the case at Adelaide.

And the furore will probably lead to Adelaide being left greener again. Which helps create a lower scoring match....which is the only way Pakistan can win.
 
Well they outscored all but one of Australias batting, which included Khawaja, burns and head all capable test batsmen so its all in the perception

Ball going soft on a relatively bouncier pitch is same as a flat SC pitch. Or maybe the pitch is a typical Perth pitch of late, flat one. Pak bowlers are better equipped to handle those scenarios than the inexperienced Aussie fringe ones. Again, I am not taking credit away from the batsmen.
 
Of course ball was soft.. ball turns too much in India..hotel rooms are upside..the whinging of SEA countries(excluding NZ) is endless.its like we are white..we can’t be beaten by browns so they must have manipulated something....may be their skills are not up to the mark.hopefully padosis give them a phainta to remember.
 
Pink Ball Tests watch

Can we log the happenings of pink tests here. It looks like a lot of different than conventional red cherry tests. Ball was swinging crazy in the 2nd session. Bowlers struggled in the third session (atleast in India). First session was like regular Test match. And also 5 batsmen got smashed on their head. I won't say it is because of pink ball. Probably poor technique. But it didn't happen in the first Test. So there is that. Ball just races off of the bat in the last session. Even a touch gets you a 4.

This is going to be interesting at the Adelaide oval. Both teams lack genuine out and out swing bowler. But that is more dangerous as small natural swing will be more dangerous than prodigious swing.
 
absolutely not. do not change the original format. Pink ball makes fodder players look like wasim akram when in reality those said players are more like a rahat ali.
 
It's the future, batting will be tough under lights. Only drawback i see is spinners role will be less compared to traditional ones.
 
Not very fond of this. Mediocre trundlers look really good with this ball. Kohli is spot on. Pink ball tests should not become the norm.
 
You cannot huge crowds and TRP's with traditional tests anymore outside ENG.

I doubt we can draw huge crowds with pink ball tests either in the long run. We just need to identify the venues where test crowds can be drawn and play tests during the October/November when there are puja/Diwali holidays and market them properly. I don't mind 1 pink ball test per season. But anything more is overkill.
 

Day-night Tests locked in for Australian summer until 2031​


Day-night Tests will remain an annual part of Australia's home summer until at least 2031, with Adelaide and Brisbane both in line to still host pink-ball matches

After Joe Root questioned the need for the format in the Ashes this month, Cricket Australia (CA) chief executive Todd Greenberg on Wednesday shut down any talk of it being stopped.

Instead, the CA boss insisted it was a key part of Test cricket's evolution and part of the sport's TV rights deal that expires in 2031.

Australia will host New Zealand for four Tests next summer in Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, all of which will be red-ball games.

Australia's Alex Carey scores his maiden Ashes century right when his team needs it on day one of the third Test at the Adelaide Oval. Follow live.

But a 150-year anniversary Test between Australia and England at the MCG, set for March, will be a day-nighter.

Beyond that, though, it will continue to remain a core part of the Australian summer.

"The night session [at the Gabba] has doubled the number of viewers we would get for the last session here today," Greenberg said on Wednesday.

"It gets more people watching it, more people engaged in it.

"It's in our broadcast contracts until 2031 that we will play a pink-ball Test. So it's not going anywhere."

Australia have hosted more than half the day-night Tests ever played.

Wednesday's third Test in Adelaide is just the third day fixture in the city in the past decade, after the pink-ball match was instead played in Brisbane earlier this month.

Travis Head has called for the fixture to return to Adelaide, while South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas has been vocal in his desire for it to be a day match.

"We've got two distinct possibilities, in Brisbane and Adelaide, they both work well," Greenberg said.

"We've got a bit of time to look at that. We're open to consider both, and maybe even mix and match a bit over time.

"That last session in Queensland last week was unreal."

In other scheduling news, Australia's ODI series against Pakistan has been moved to June from March.

That will precede two home Tests against Bangladesh in Mackay and Cairns in August, before Australia play three Tests in South Africa in October.

Meanwhile, Greenberg said talks were underway with the ECB around preparations for the 2027 and 2028–29 Ashes.

England's lead-in to this summer has been heavily scrutinised after they opted against tour games and suffered thumping defeats in the first two Tests.

Greenberg said he would be open to English players featuring in the Sheffield Shield to help them prepare, as Australians often do in UK county cricket.

States can currently have one overseas player on their books each season, but rarely do.

"As the global world changes for cricket, this concept that we lock down our own parts and our own systems without some sort of broader knowledge of what's happening around you [isn't realistic]," Greenberg said.

 

Tarar demands apologies for global reportage linking Pakistan to Bondi Beach shooting​


Information Minister Attaullah Tarar demanded apologies and corrigendum from international media that published unverified report, linking Pakistan to the shooting at Australia's Bondi Beach. He described the coverage a 'vicious disinformation campaign' against Pakistan.

Addressing a press conference in Islamabad on Wednesday, Tarar presented video clips and timelines to demonstrate how several media organisations circulated claims that one of the attackers was Pakistani, without verification.

“A false and deliberate misinformation campaign was launched from hostile countries to malign Pakistan,” he said.

Following the attack, which claimed 15 lives, several Indian and Israeli media houses identified an individual named Naveed Akram as a 'Pakistani attacker'. The claim was later disproved when a Pakistani-Australian man with the same name publicly denied any involvement in the incident.

“This is not me, and I have no connection whatsoever to that incident or to the person involved,” Akram said, adding that his photographs were taken from social media and wrongly described as the shooter.

He said the false identification had severe personal consequences. “I am stressed and scared and cannot even step outside safely,” he said, describing the compounded trauma of witnessing the tragedy and then being misidentified online.

Tarar said official clarifications later confirmed that there was no Pakistani link to the incident. He cited a police statement from India identifying one of the attackers as a resident of Telangana, Hyderabad, holding an Indian passport issued by the Indian embassy in Sydney. The information minister added that Philippines authorities had also verified that the individual travelled to the Philippines on an Indian passport.

“There was not a shred of evidence linking Pakistan to the incident,” Tarar said, while praising Australian authorities for waiting for verified facts before reaching conclusions. “Now my question is, who’s going to cover the damage that was caused to Pakistan through these fake posts and false information?”

The minister said the misinformation campaign coincided with Pakistan’s commemoration of the December 16 APS Peshawar martyrs, calling the timing 'particularly painful'. He reiterated Pakistan’s long-standing stance against terrorism.

“Pakistan has lost more than 90,000 lives to terrorism and has consistently condemned it in all forms and manifestations,” he said.

Tarar said that Pakistan was not pursuing legal action at this stage but expected apologies in accordance with journalistic norms. “I think an apology would be nice,” he said. “It is part of journalistic norms to tender an apology on incorrect news posted and disseminated.”

He confirmed that Pakistan’s foreign missions had been provided with verified information and video material to support expatriate communities affected by the false claims. “All our embassies have been shared this video and the correct information, and they are available to our citizens for any assistance,” he said.

Pakistan’s government condemned the Bondi Beach attack immediately after the incident and expressed solidarity with the Australian government and people. Tarar said Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and President Asif Ali Zardari had issued strong condemnations from the outset.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
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