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He was bowling really well.

But since last 2 matches, he's going at 8 an over.

Aussie's are playing him with ease
 
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He is a one trick pony, but it is a good trick. Unfortunately for him, Australia have done their homework.
 
most teams i have seen sort him out after 2-3 games.
needs to bowl more slower ones that actually spin
 
He has been decoded. At first, the Aussies were playing for his spin which wasn't there as a result of which they got out. Now, they play him as a slow bowler.
 
New player
New condition
Never anything special in the first place
Playing against a decent team with good staff/players
 
They found that he doesn't spin...

Wish he learns something.

He used to get at least 2 wickets, with an economy of 4, but in last 2 matches , no wickets and going at 8 an over in each
 
couple of bad games don't change his utility to the team. He is a long term prospect
 
Everyone has a few bad games especially when you're bowling in unfamiliar conditions as a new player. We should persist with him. He's a bright prospect and has one of the best arm balls in the world.
 
He is still a very important part of LOI side. But i feel the more teams play against him, the more he will struggle. He needs to start bowling slower ones in between too, he usually bowls quite flat and quick.
 
Yeah we should persist. No one is asking to throw him out, at the same time he has to learn to spin odd deliveries..
 
nobody is looking at the pattern of previous games. 2-3 really good games and then mediocrity against each team
 
He needs to turn the odd ball to create confusion , darting in ball after ball doesnt work for long.
 
Can only do well against sides who are playing him for the first time or teams like West Indies who are themselves hopeless.

This guy is simply not good enough, yet has a snobby attitude.
 
That was always going to happen sooner or later. He don't have a luxury to extend his elbow :hafeez2 so that he can change his length and flight at the last instance and still be effective without turning the ball or having any variations.
 
His figures

First 2 matches(when Aussie's were playing him as a spinner )

20-72-4 @ 3.6

Last 2 matches (after they've worked him out)

17-128-0 @ 7.5

Yes every1 can have a bad game, but you can see a clear contrast in the figures
 
Syed1 said:
Can only do well against sides who are playing him for the first time or teams like West Indies who are themselves hopeless.

This guy is simply not good enough, yet has a snobby attitude.
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I think he is good as a utility LOI cricketer. If someone thinks he can be a frontline spinner they will always be disappointed.
Also He needs to bowl slower in ODIs.
 
Two catches dropped off his bowling. We were excusing Amir's performance when it happened to him only fair to give Imad the same leeway.

Though I agree he is a one trick pony. He needs to add a bit of a variety to his bowling.
 
this is why international cricket is tough.. with ever improving technology and coaching facilities the weakness or the mantra of a player will be exposed and tested... Is he capable to sustain is the question for IMAD wasim? what else does he have in the bag of skills?... Being in the team and improving is tough, but pak players will choose the easiest way always which is getting dropped go back to domestics and comeback without improving a bit...
 
ask_analyse_act said:
this is why international cricket is tough.. with ever improving technology and coaching facilities the weakness or the mantra of a player will be exposed and tested... Is he capable to sustain is the question for IMAD wasim? what else does he have in the bag of skills?... Being in the team and improving is tough, but pak players will choose the easiest way always which is getting dropped go back to domestics and comeback without improving a bit...
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That's what I am worried about.

As the next series is with WI, and he'll be a beast against them.

But it might hurt us at CT.

we play SA, IND and SL(All are good players of spin bowling)

He is a good prospect, but he needs to have variations if he has to sustain.

Keep on darting, doesn't help.

Hope he comes strong in the next match
 
Bits and pieces cricketer.Having high expectations from them is your fault.
 
Called it out way back. He's a darter but a bit clever darter.

Just darts in but with variations and those who work him out a bit can out clever him.

On batting tracks he would be MERCILESSLY smashed around all the park.

Can be handy on slow low UAE graveyard
 
One dimensional bowler. A spinner that can't spin the ball. It was only a matter of time before he was figured out by teams. And some people want him in tests lol.
 
He's a very handy LOI cricketer. You can't always have good days.
 
This is why I have been calling for a leg spinner as they have more variety than the current off spinners we are picking. A leg break is a must in modern day LO cricket.
 
Hasan123 said:
This is why I have been calling for a leg spinner as they have more variety than the current off spinners we are picking. A leg break is a must in modern day LO cricket.
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So you lost all faith in Imad so early? You were again cheering him up the other day after a good match.
 
Hawkeye said:
So you lost all faith in Imad so early? You were again cheering him up the other day after a good match.
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I wouldn't drop Imad , I have said before he shouldn't be relied on as the main spinner. We need to try and get a leg break bowler in the team.
 
Hasan123 said:
We have some decent young leg spinners, just need to be given to a chance
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1. We can't really tell if they can be good specialist bowlers, esp. in LOIs.

2. Even if they are decent bowlers, they cannot bat at all! Let alone batting equal to Imad (which is still poor) OR batting acc. to modern LOI requirements.
 
Hawkeye said:
1. We can't really tell if they can be good specialist bowlers, esp. in LOIs.

2. Even if they are decent bowlers, they cannot bat at all! Let alone batting equal to Imad (which is still poor) OR batting acc. to modern LOI requirements.
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Shadab is a all rounder LOL. Better to try these guys than relay on these darters as our main spinners.
 
If this is the best new spinning all rounder in the country then we are deserving no 8/9 in the rankings. Every spot in the team should be looked at carefully. Our lower order batting is very brittle and spinners don't stem the runs.
 
Got to learn to spin the ball - very quickly or he will remain mediocre
 
Hasan123 said:
Shadab is a all rounder LOL. Better to try these guys than relay on these darters as our main spinners.
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If Shadab can be twice as good as Imad with the bat, I'll take him. But is he really that good with the bat and can consistently hit?
 
Hawkeye said:
If Shadab can be twice as good as Imad with the bat, I'll take him. But is he really that good with the bat and can consistently hit?
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Scored a century on the Zimbabwean A-Tour albiet it isn't much of an attack.

He can bat anywhere from 6-9
 
Mamoon said:
He is a one trick pony, but it is a good trick. Unfortunately for him, Australia have done their homework.
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Said this from the first time I saw him. He's got a great arm ball, but without being able to get any turn from the stock off spinner it becomes predictable and easy to play. He's not going to be bowling to brainless West Indian batsmen every series. Any top quality batting side will be able to hit him at will.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Said this from the first time I saw him. He's got a great arm ball, but without being able to get any turn from the stock off spinner it becomes predictable and easy to play. He's not going to be bowling to brainless West Indian batsmen every series. Any top quality batting side will be able to hit him at will.
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He also forces the batsmen to make mistakes by bowling dry, which he hasn't been able to do so in the last two matches. Pakistan doesn't need any specialist spinner in ODIs, so Imad isn't really a problem. It is the pace attack that is a big worry. Not impressed with the partnership of Amir and Junaid which had a lot of people excited after the first two matches, and the least said about Wahab and Rahat, the better.

Think it is time to bring Sohail Khan back to the fold in ODIs.
 
He will do well against the west indies and on slow tracks. On truer tracks, the opposition need to be 3 or 4 down for him to be just as effective. I dont think he had the worst game today. It was a high scoring match and he had a chance dropped off him. His job is not to run through sides. I would take 1 or 2 wickets for 60 in every game from him in the modern odi.
 
Mamoon said:
He also forces the batsmen to make mistakes by bowling dry, which he hasn't been able to do so in the last two matches. Pakistan doesn't need any specialist spinner in ODIs, so Imad isn't really a problem. It is the pace attack that is a big worry. Not impressed with the partnership of Amir and Junaid which had a lot of people excited after the first two matches, and the least said about Wahab and Rahat, the better.

Think it is time to bring Sohail Khan back to the fold in ODIs.
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Pacers especially amir has been very good this series these have been unforgiving wickets even Starc has been taken for runs by our hapless bats
 
Pakistan are desperately missing a proper spin bowler in the middle overs ever since Ajmal has gone.

Is Raza Hasan back in domestics? Or Zafar Gohar?
 
Pete Rose said:
He will do well against the west indies and on slow tracks. On truer tracks, the opposition need to be 3 or 4 down for him to be just as effective. I dont think he had the worst game today. It was a high scoring match and he had a chance dropped off him. His job is not to run through sides. I would take 1 or 2 wickets for 60 in every game from him in the modern odi.
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sam_ahm said:
Pakistan are desperately missing a proper spin bowler in the middle overs ever since Ajmal has gone.

Is Raza Hasan back in domestics? Or Zafar Gohar?
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It's not his bowling that worries me too much. He can have good days on slow/low tracks.

He's played as an AR, but he's absolutely woeful with the bat at that position. He cannot bat at the pace that's required at that position, and is exactly the kind of player who will take off the momentum from a good start.

It's what happened in the last 2 matches. You may be able to tolerate him if you didn't have Malik and Rizwan around him, who are also the same type of players.
 
Hawkeye said:
It's not his bowling that worries me too much. He can have good days on slow/low tracks.

He's played as an AR, but he's absolutely woeful with the bat at that position. He cannot bat at the pace that's required at that position, and is exactly the kind of player who will take off the momentum from a good start.

It's what happened in the last 2 matches. You may be able to tolerate him if you didn't have Malik and Rizwan around him, who are also the same type of players.
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Yes, I agree has been poor. Although again there are mitigating circumstances: we play him at 7 or 8 in the batting line up, looking for that elusive big hitter. The failure percentage tends to be high in the beginning.
 
Hawkeye said:
If Shadab can be twice as good as Imad with the bat, I'll take him. But is he really that good with the bat and can consistently hit?
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they all come in show glimpses of promise and when they are found out and exposed will put their heads down going back to domestics.. will comeback again without improving a bit for what they are sent back to domestics, just like UA and rizwan travelling with the team all year around and still struggling against spin even in AUS...Pak are not professional cricketers anymore, they are just street smart and one series/season wonders
 
Obvious - spinner without much turn.

Normally decent, but will fail when expected to perform or when bowling on rank turners.
 
Needs to flight the ball more and also needs to learn how to turn the ball away from the right handers.
 
Rubbish bowler; should stick to playing T20's. He has no business in our ODI squad.
 
Utter failure.

Even west indies, who looked like tail Enders have worked him out.

Whereas the australians have worked him out in jus 3 matches.

It's just a matter of time that he'll be out of the playing 11.

Imad is just a Spin version of Anwar ali, neither good at battling Nor at bowling
 
fazleefridi said:
Utter failure.

Even west indies, who looked like tail Enders have worked him out.

Whereas the australians have worked him out in jus 3 matches.

It's just a matter of time that he'll be out of the playing 11.

Imad is just a Spin version of Anwar ali, neither good at battling Nor at bowling
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Spot on bro, at this level he was bound to get figured out, i really want hussain talat in the team, there's something about him he looks a proper clean striker if the ball
 
This should be the bowling

5.Malik(7th bowler/To bowl some off-spin)

6.Tallat(6th bowler/To bowl some seam)

7.Shadab(Spin AR)

8.Fahim(Seam AR)(Tallat and Fahim to bowl 10 overs of seam with added batting, their bowling won't be any worse than Wahab's)

9.Amir(Bowler who can bat a bit)

10.Hassan(bowler who can hold a bat)

11.Asghar(We need a proper spinner, not Imad who jus throws it like my 5 years old, niece does)

Pakistan's strength is bowling, and it will be.

Pakistan will neva score 320+, yes here and there sometimes.

But they can defend/chase 280+ scores if they use genuine bowlers, which their strength is

Use genuine bowlers, not half AR's like

Anwar
Bhatti
Tanvir
Nawaz
Imad

I would take Afridi on any given day, over Imad
 
this guy is not hard hitter of the ball and his spin bowling figured out even by windies. Hard time ahead for him. Shadab must bat higher than Imad in coming two ODI.
 
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