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What If Series: Would the fate of the Indian subcontinent have been any different or better had Muslim rulers not invaded it?

Would the fate of the Indian subcontinent have been any different or better had Muslim rulers not in

  • Yes, India subcontinent would have been ideal region for the world in all domains

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • No, Muslim rulers made it better

    Votes: 8 72.7%
  • Total voters
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uppercut said:
Not just quote it but respond to it and tag me ... I will properly educate you and your Islamic extremist buddies for free. Go ahead don't be shy.

And yes the Muslims are by far the biggest problem group in India. Infact it is rare to find any major religion in the world that does not have any conflict with Muslims

Here is the list

1. Christians - Check
2. Jews - Check
3. Hindus - Check
4. Buddhists- Check
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Explain with examples. :inti
 
Hitman said:
Goodness! You were one country till they got fed up with your racism towards them, and you launched Operation Searchlight on them thereby ..... (I think you know what your army did to their men and women).
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But since then Bangladesh has seen the duplicity of friendship with India. India is not interested in friendship with Bangladesh or Pakistan unless it is to cement Indian control. As long as your govt is run according to hindutva doctrines, benefit to a Muslim nation in the subcontinent is off the table. On the contrary, you seek their disempowerment and regress.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
But since then Bangladesh has seen the duplicity of friendship with India. India is not interested in friendship with Bangladesh or Pakistan unless it is to cement Indian control. As long as your govt is run according to hindutva doctrines, benefit to a Muslim nation in the subcontinent is off the table. On the contrary, you seek their disempowerment and regress.
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Whatever you want to believe! Both Pakistan and Bangladesh have nothing to offer to anyone other than their nuisance value. At the end of the day, I've always believed in us minding our own business. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh can do what's the best for them as long as it doesn't create nuisance for India.​
 
If the barbarians had not invaded Bharat, we would never have been able to say that Sanatanis in their weakest times defeated Islamists at the peak of their powers.

The Mughal era is testimony to the might of Sanatan.
 
Bhaijaan said:
If the barbarians had not invaded Bharat, we would never have been able to say that Sanatanis in their weakest times defeated Islamists at the peak of their powers.

The Mughal era is testimony to the might of Sanatan.
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It's a shame so many of those subhumans are buried in our land.
 
Hitman said:
Whatever you want to believe! Both Pakistan and Bangladesh have nothing to offer to anyone other than their nuisance value. At the end of the day, I've always believed in us minding our own business. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh can do what's the best for them as long as it doesn't create nuisance for India.​
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You can reject part of India, but the Musalman can never reject India. It is part of our sould and our destiny.
 
Hitman said:
Jews did the same to the part of Palestine which is known as Israel now. Now listen to me, and listen carefully -

God Bless, Israel
Long live, Israel!
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Sure but wrong location , learn to read properly before asking others to listen .

Jews eat meat & don’t worship stones .

I just stated facts , vegetarians have never had a global empire. You should be proud some Arabs came & eventually their fellow religious brothers ruled to make it the richest .

Now after 70 years with RSS veggies in Power, it’s 3rd world nation .

Read a book while snacking on celery
 
sweep_shot said:
Kissing/touching the black stone from Kaaba is not idolatry. This stone is not treated like a deity or anything.

We Muslims only worship Allah (SWT). La ilaha illallahu muhammadur rasulullah.
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Oh no you ain't fooling anyone with arabic here.

Idolatry by cambridge: The act of praying to a picture or object as part of religion.

You are guilty of the same sin you look down others for. Es hamam mein sub hi nangain hain.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
Vegans never ruled a global empire.

Muslims made India the richest land in its history .
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The mighty Mughalsh were begging or working as cobblers in the gullys of Delhi by the end of their reign. Sanatanis beat them black and blue. Aurangzeb was literally running from place to place out of fear from Shivaji Maharaj The Great.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Oh no you ain't fooling anyone with arabic here.

Idolatry by cambridge: The act of praying to a picture or object as part of religion.

You are guilty of the same sin you look down others for. Es hamam mein sub hi nangain hain
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We worship Allah (SWT). One and only God. Pure monotheism.

No Muslim prays to a picture or an object.
 
Muslim rulers have enriched Indian subcontinent. Without them, modern day Indian subcontinent might have been divided into small states like it is seen in Africa.

Muslim rulers have unified and solidified many different kingdoms.
 
sweep_shot said:
Muslim rulers have enriched Indian subcontinent. Without them, modern day Indian subcontinent might have been divided into small states like it is seen in Africa.

Muslim rulers have unified and solidified many different kingdoms.
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How did that enrichment process work out for Afghanistan...? I see that you have been stubbornly dodging that question... I wonder why.
 
uppercut said:
How did that enrichment process work out for Afghanistan...? I see that you have been stubbornly dodging that question... I wonder why.
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Many people ask many questions here. Not practical to answer all. I don't even read all posts.

Modern day Afghanistan is not related to the topic of this thread.
 
sweep_shot said:
Many people ask many questions here. Not practical to answer all. I don't even read all posts.

Modern day Afghanistan is not related to the topic of this thread.
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It most certainly is pertinent to the topic of this thread as todays Afghanistan region was the first region of the Indian subcontinent that was ruled by the Muslim rulers that you seem to hold in high regard and claim that they enriched the region's that they Ruled.

So go ahead explain how that turned out for Afghanistan as the implementation of Muslim rule was total and complete in that region.
 
Hitman said:
Yea, an Islamic country afloat on alms from IMF and other nations is akin to Musalmans not begging for alms.
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Pakistan's constitution is not Islamic, it is officially a republic which has included Islam in it's description despite not implementing Sharia in finance. Otherwise IMF loans based on interest would be out of the question. In that case India mashallah is actually more Islamic than Pakistan.
 
uppercut said:
A country's progress isn't measured by GDP alone. Moreover BD is yet to Implement purest form of Islamic governance so thats why I picked Afghanistan.

So now let us know how that has worked out for Afghanistan.
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Ok not by GDP alone then what achievements has India accomplished on other fronts?? CAA, branding of current Muslims as "invaders" by their PM, the deplorable situation of Dalits or the Sikh farmers so called "hey days".

Please shed light on some. And Afghanistan not the thread topic but still that country has been under foreign occupation until 2020 one way or the other unlike India they didn't become the 2nd largest economy under invaders
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Ok not by GDP alone then what achievements has India accomplished on other fronts?? CAA, branding of current Muslims as "invaders" by their PM, the deplorable situation of Dalits or the Sikh farmers so called "hey days".
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Problems like these exist in most countries.... including Amreeka.

The Bald Eagle said:
Please shed light on some. And Afghanistan not the thread topic but still that country has been under foreign occupation until 2020 one way or the other unlike India they didn't become the 2nd largest economy under invaders
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It most certainly is ... look at the very first paragraph in the OP that you made. Afghanistan was the very first region that fell to Muslim invaders and it totally adopted the Muslim rule and has been so for nearly a 1000 years!. If Muslim rule was such a good thing like you guys believe , then why is it that country at the bottom of every modern development index ?

So therefore it is a very very good example of what happens when Muslim rule takes over completely. Fortunately India did not completely go that route and the evidence is right infront of you unless you think Afghanistan is a livable place and comparable to India in 2024.

You can also look at Afghanistan before and after Muslim rule.
 
uppercut said:
Problems like these exist in most countries.... including Amreeka.



It most certainly is ... look at the very first paragraph in the OP that you made. Afghanistan was the very first region that fell to Muslim invaders and it totally adopted the Muslim rule and has been so for nearly a 1000 years!. If Muslim rule was such a good thing like you guys believe , then why is it that country at the bottom of every modern development index ?

So therefore it is a very very good example of what happens when Muslim rule takes over completely. Fortunately India did not completely go that route and the evidence is right infront of you unless you think Afghanistan is a livable place and comparable to India in 2024.

You can also look at Afghanistan before and after Muslim rule.
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Unlike India, they hardly had any centralized state structure so wealth there was unevenly distributed and concentrated in big cities or regions.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Unlike India, they hardly had any centralized state structure so wealth there was unevenly distributed and concentrated in big cities or regions.
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well you guys were the Ones that were crowing about how good the Muslim rule is ... so YOU tell me why the HQ of Muslim rule is in such a pitiable condition today.
 
uppercut said:
well you guys were the Ones that were crowing about how good the Muslim rule is ... so YOU tell me why the HQ of Muslim rule is in such a pitiable condition today.
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Lol...Even your government still begs Saudis for investment from their mamooth investment and soverign fund
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol...Even your government still begs Saudis for investment from their mamooth investment and soverign fund
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These are all mutually beneficial trade relationships ... what you probably are referring to is how Pakistan operates whether it be IMF or China or Saudis or USA. Vastly different from that.

So going back to Afghanistan... why is it such a massive failure despite embracing Muslim rule for 1000 years ? If Muslim rule was a such a great thing they should have been in a much better shape than what India is today... right?
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol...Even your government still begs Saudis for investment from their mamooth investment and soverign fund
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The Hindutva cult will never understand this. India still relies on foreign investment to survive. India's reserves would evaporate within hours if it wasn't for rich Muslim leaders and Western masters.
 
Technics 1210 said:
The Hindutva cult will never understand this. India still relies on foreign investment to survive. India's reserves would evaporate within hours if it wasn't for rich Muslim leaders and Western masters.
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Do you understand that India runs a trade deficit with Saudi Arabia ? Meaning we literally are one of the largest paying Customers for them. Not freeloaders like Pakistan.

Time for you to slip away from the thread.
 
'Chhaava Making Waves Throughout Country': PM Modi Gives Shout-Out To Film Based On Sambhaji Maharaj
Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday gave a shout-out to ‘Chhaava’ — a Hindi film based on the life of Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj — and said that the movie is “making its waves throughout the country" these days.

While lauding Maharashtra and Mumbai for their contribution to the film industry, the Prime Minister said that they have given a new height to the Marathi and Hindi film industries.

“It is Maharashtra and Mumbai which has given a new height to Marathi as well as Hindi cinema. And these days, Chhaava is making waves throughout the country (In dino to Chhaava ki dhoom machi hui hai). The introduction of Sambhaji Maharaj’s valour in this form has been made by Shivaji Sawant’s Marathi novel," PM Modi said while addressing Akhil Bharatiya Marathi Sahitya Sammelan in New Delhi.

www.news18.com

'Chhaava Making Waves Throughout Country': PM Modi Gives Shout-Out To Film Based On Sambhaji Maharaj - News18

PM Narendra Modi lauded the film based on the life of Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj -- Chhaava -- and said that it is "making waves throughout the country".
www.news18.com www.news18.com
 
uppercut said:
These are all mutually beneficial trade relationships ... what you probably are referring to is how Pakistan operates whether it be IMF or China or Saudis or USA. Vastly different from that.

So going back to Afghanistan... why is it such a massive failure despite embracing Muslim rule for 1000 years ? If Muslim rule was a such a great thing they should have been in a much better shape than what India is today... right?
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@The Bald Eagle

No response to that post ? 👆
 
uppercut said:
@The Bald Eagle

No response to that post ? 👆
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Afghanistan remained under occupation from 1800 to onwards and before that we don't find any statistics on their economy. And unlike other countries of South Asia it is a land locked country with mountain ranges dividing it in two halves and with dearth of fertile lands, the only thing they could rely on was trade and they benefitted a lot during silk road but afterwards the occupation forces ruined their economy and society.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Afghanistan remained under occupation from 1800 to onwards and before that we don't find any statistics on their economy. And unlike other countries of South Asia it is a land locked country with mountain ranges dividing it in two halves and with dearth of fertile lands, the only thing they could rely on was trade and they benefitted a lot during silk road but afterwards the occupation forces ruined their economy and society.
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How was the same land one of the most prosperous regions in the world before Islamization?

And what are the excuses for Pakistan which is also a nearly failed state ?
 
uppercut said:
How was the same land one of the most prosperous regions in the world before Islamization?

And what are the excuses for Pakistan which is also a nearly failed state ?
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Do you have comprehension issues?...can't explain a thing 100 times ever. Read my post again
 
@cricketjoshila

Here's what'll happen if India steps out of line and attacks Australia.

Immediate Consequences
Australian Defense & U.S. Response

Australia has a modern, well-equipped military but lacks the numbers to resist a full-scale invasion alone.
As part of the AUKUS (Australia, UK, and U.S.) alliance, the United States and the UK would respond immediately.
The U.S. has military bases in Guam, Japan, and the Philippines and would mobilize naval and air forces rapidly.

Economic Collapse for India

Sanctions would be imposed, crippling India's economy.
The Indian rupee would crash, foreign investments would flee, and supply chains would be cut off.
Tech companies like Apple, Google, and Microsoft would stop operations in India.
The oil supply from the Middle East would be threatened, as Western allies might pressure Gulf nations to halt exports.

Naval & Air Superiority of the West

The U.S. Navy and Australian forces would blockade India in the Indian Ocean.
The U.S. Air Force, combined with Australian and UK forces, could bomb key Indian military targets.
India’s aircraft carriers and navy, while growing, are no match for U.S. and UK naval forces.

Massive airstrikes on military infrastructure in India.
Cyber warfare against Indian banking, power grids, and communications.
India’s nuclear doctrine is "No First Use," meaning it likely wouldn’t use nukes unless attacked with nuclear weapons first.

The war would likely end within weeks to months due to India’s military inferiority to combined Western forces.
India would face long-term diplomatic and economic isolation, similar to Russia after the Ukraine invasion but potentially worse.


^^ This is what happens if you decide to attack Australia.

Stay in reality. You ain't as powerful as you think. The moment you attack the west India is cooked.
 
mominsaigol said:
@cricketjoshila

Here's what'll happen if India steps out of line and attacks Australia.

Immediate Consequences
Australian Defense & U.S. Response

Australia has a modern, well-equipped military but lacks the numbers to resist a full-scale invasion alone.
As part of the AUKUS (Australia, UK, and U.S.) alliance, the United States and the UK would respond immediately.
The U.S. has military bases in Guam, Japan, and the Philippines and would mobilize naval and air forces rapidly.

Economic Collapse for India

Sanctions would be imposed, crippling India's economy.
The Indian rupee would crash, foreign investments would flee, and supply chains would be cut off.
Tech companies like Apple, Google, and Microsoft would stop operations in India.
The oil supply from the Middle East would be threatened, as Western allies might pressure Gulf nations to halt exports.

Naval & Air Superiority of the West

The U.S. Navy and Australian forces would blockade India in the Indian Ocean.
The U.S. Air Force, combined with Australian and UK forces, could bomb key Indian military targets.
India’s aircraft carriers and navy, while growing, are no match for U.S. and UK naval forces.

Massive airstrikes on military infrastructure in India.
Cyber warfare against Indian banking, power grids, and communications.
India’s nuclear doctrine is "No First Use," meaning it likely wouldn’t use nukes unless attacked with nuclear weapons first.

The war would likely end within weeks to months due to India’s military inferiority to combined Western forces.
India would face long-term diplomatic and economic isolation, similar to Russia after the Ukraine invasion but potentially worse.


^^ This is what happens if you decide to attack Australia.

Stay in reality. You ain't as powerful as you think. The moment you attack the west India is cooked.
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Why will India attack Australia?

To fulfill some weird imagination of pakistanis?

Now stop trying to hide behind Aussie passport. For us Indians you are a Pakistani only.

And if wars were so straight forward Russia would be toast by now.
 
Vikram1989 said:
It's all coping mechanism after aus lost a cricket match against ind
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His home country pakistan out of CT.

So he tried to project Aussies.

Now Australia out as well.

So let's try war between India vs the West.

India enjoys far better relations with the west than Pakistan.

And these treaties are all dependent on the mood of the USA president. Ukraine found out about that.
 
Vikram1989 said:
It's all coping mechanism after aus lost a cricket match against ind
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He thinks that Australia will go to war against India because few pakistanis living in Australia want it.

Poor guy doesn't realise we treat pakistanis with Aussie passports same as pakistanis and Australian government doesn't do ****.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He thinks that Australia will go to war against India because few pakistanis living in Australia want it.

Poor guy doesn't realise we treat pakistanis with Aussie passports same as pakistanis and Australian government doesn't do ****.
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Blud when he realises I would never travel to a 3rd world country 🫠🫠
 
cricketjoshila said:
Why will India attack Australia?

To fulfill some weird imagination of pakistanis?

Now stop trying to hide behind Aussie passport. For us Indians you are a Pakistani only.

And if wars were so straight forward Russia would be toast by now.
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Why will India attack Australia?

What if series, India attacks Australia, economy collapses a month later, India ceizes to exist. Meanwhile @cricketjoshila and @Vikram1989

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cricketjoshila said:
You won't get a visa. Ask Usman Khawaja how difficult it is for pakistanis to get Indian visa.
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Why would I want one when I have no intention of travelling to India? 🤣.

Who on earth wants to live in a 3rd world emerging country? You Indians yourself don't wanna live their hence immigrants fleeing and being granted refugee status.

Do you have any idea how many of you guys occupy other countries and secretly despise your own homeland? Get out of your proud country delusions.

Yall run aways
 
mominsaigol said:
Why would I want one when I have no intention of travelling to India? 🤣.

Who on earth wants to live in a 3rd world emerging country? You Indians yourself don't wanna live their hence immigrants fleeing and being granted refugee status.

Do you have any idea how many of you guys occupy other countries and secretly despise your own homeland? Get out of your proud country delusions.

Yall run aways
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You can only have intention when you can travel. Both of us know you can't.

India is far ahead of Pakistan. You yourself ran away from there.

Do you have any idea how successful Indian immigrants are around the world?

I don't find my countrymen going to Pakistan even when invited.
 
cricketjoshila said:
You can only have intention when you can travel. Both of us know you can't.

India is far ahead of Pakistan. You yourself ran away from there.

Do you have any idea how successful Indian immigrants are around the world?

I don't find my countrymen going to Pakistan even when invited.
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I don't mind since I don't praise Pakistan as a country. You praise India as a country and delusionally believe its great deapite it being

A) Ranked 2nd worst on quality of life index

B) Listed as a 3rd world emerging developing country

C) Their a greater number of Indian refugees then any other population on the planet. People like sundar or divya are outliers and not the norm in the same way shahid Khan from Pakistan is an Outlier but owns AEW.

As I stop delusionally believing that your country is great. You're all wannabes who won't waste a second to immigrate if you had the chance but unfortunately for you, usa isn't issuing H1-B's for Indians atm and Aus is delaying EOI's
 
cricketjoshila said:
Why will anyone attack Australia because of a Pakistani?
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You can't attack Australia because you don't have the power plain and simple. You a 3rd world country boy. You ain't as powerful as you think.

Proof is in the papers, you all western suckups. Attack kar kei to dekho 🤣
 
mominsaigol said:
I don't mind since I don't praise Pakistan as a country. You praise India as a country and delusionally believe its great deapite it being

A) Ranked 2nd worst on quality of life index

B) Listed as a 3rd world emerging developing country

C) Their a greater number of Indian refugees then any other population on the planet. People like sundar or divya are outliers and not the norm in the same way shahid Khan from Pakistan is an Outlier but owns AEW.

As I stop delusionally believing that your country is great. You're all wannabes who won't waste a second to immigrate if you had the chance but unfortunately for you, usa isn't issuing H1-B's for Indians atm and Aus is delaying EOI's
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Correct.

There are over 700K illegal Indians in USA (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/).

15% of India's population doesn't have toilet access --> https://www.france24.com/en/tv-show...still-struggling-to-provide-access-to-toilets.

60% of India's population live on less than $3.10 per day --> https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/10/world/i-on-india-income-gap/.
 
sweep_shot said:
Correct.

There are over 700K illegal Indians in USA (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/).

15% of India's population doesn't have toilet access --> https://www.france24.com/en/tv-show...still-struggling-to-provide-access-to-toilets.

60% of India's population live on less than $3.10 per day --> https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/10/world/i-on-india-income-gap/.
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@cricketjoshila Was it really that hard to provide the stats 🫠🫠
 
cricketjoshila said:
Now stop trying to hide behind Aussie passport. For us Indians you are a Pakistani only.
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cricketjoshila said:
India enjoys far better relations with the west than Pakistan.
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These sort of posts are so educational because they tell everything about why hindutva Indians gave such high status to the British Raj historically. Only white westerners qualify for the salute from the Indian subjects.

:salute
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
These sort of posts are so educational because they tell everything about why hindutva Indians gave such high status to the British Raj historically. Only white westerners qualify for the salute from the Indian subjects.

:salute
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Bhai take this picture and spam it to these guys when they start to annoy you. It's the easiest way to deal with toddlers. I have given you the perfect hack. 🤣🤣. I noticed the moment I started using this @cricketjoshila And @Vikram1989 vanished without a trace. Itna sakoon to mujhe kabhi bhi nahi mila.

Bas spam it a few times and it'll do the trick.

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mominsaigol said:
Bhai take this picture and spam it to these guys when they start to annoy you. It's the easiest way to deal with toddlers. I have given you the perfect hack. 🤣🤣. I noticed the moment I started using this @cricketjoshila And @Vikram1989 vanished without a trace. Itna sakoon to mujhe kabhi bhi nahi mila.

Bas spam it a few times and it'll do the trick.

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I already told joshila bhai to stop using the word "amused" to describe his emotions when it's clear he is raging inside. It just makes his posts even funnier. :ROFLMAO:
 
Yes, specially the fate of current day Pakistan would have surely been better. Pakistan's economy today is at the same level as UP and Bihar, the worst of BIMARU. I strongly believe that the Muslim rule in the subcontinent played a role there. While most of the Indian states recovered with Sanatan re-establishing, Pakistan couldn't.
 
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