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What is exactly going on with Babar Azam?

Caved12 said:
You’d have to be completely clueless about cricket to say that a batter with 102 fifties and 31 centuries only had a few good knocks. Lmao, most of you are absolute clowns when it comes to talking cricket.
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The vast majority of Babar's ODI centuries are against minnows or B-C teams during IPL.

In ICC/ACC events has only one century in 6 events. That is poor.

In tests again only one century vs SENA in a win. Others vs SL/Bang.

Scored 3 in 2022 in flat pitches where he got outperformed by Khawaja/Brook/Latham and didn't win a single match and actually lost two series.

One century outside Asia and that too in a lost game when the match was over.

He is an okay player made big by media hype.
 
saimayubera said:
The vast majority of Babar's ODI centuries are against minnows or B-C teams during IPL.

In ICC/ACC events has only one century in 6 events. That is poor.

In tests again only one century vs SENA in a win. Others vs SL/Bang.

Scored 3 in 2022 in flat pitches where he got outperformed by Khawaja/Brook/Latham and didn't win a single match and actually lost two series.

One century outside Asia and that too in a lost game when the match was over.

He is an okay player made big by media hype.
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Not really. He had plenty of quality knocks, and most of his centuries didn’t come against weak or B-grade teams. In one of the World Cups, he scored nearly 500 runs at an average close to 70 with a strike rate of around 90, including a century and three fifties. What other players from other teams did or did not do is none of my concern, he’s miles better than just an “okay” player. You clearly have an agenda and are doing everything you can to downplay his achievements. When he was scoring runs for fun, everyone was full of praise, and now that he’s going through a rough patch, haters like you are twisting things to suit your narrative. I don’t have time for this kind of nonsense and mental gymnastics. Carry on.
 
saimayubera said:
He is an okay player made big by media hype.
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He hasn't been made big by the media. They tried to but couldn't. No player can be made big simply by media hype. Ultimately it's former players, his contemporaries, other cricket pundits and the fans who judge the value of a player.

Pakistani media tried big time to hype him and elevate him to Kohli's stature, but ultimately failed. And that's because you can't elevate a player's stature simply by media hype unless he performs on the field.​
 
Shan Masood on Babar Azam’s form during PAK vs SA 1st Test:

“I said earlier — in these conditions, we need to manage our expectations regarding runs. Babar made 23 in the first innings and 42 in the second — that’s 65 runs at an average of over 32 in this Test. That’s still a decent contribution.”
 
Ball Blazer said:
Shan Masood on Babar Azam’s form during PAK vs SA 1st Test:

“I said earlier — in these conditions, we need to manage our expectations regarding runs. Babar made 23 in the first innings and 42 in the second — that’s 65 runs at an average of over 32 in this Test. That’s still a decent contribution.”
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This is certified minnow mentality.
 
Babar is an Ijaz Ahmed-level test batsman

It will be unfair to compare Babar with Pakistan’s premier test batsmen over the years, the likes of Miandad, Younis, Inzi, Hanif Mohammad, Zaheer Abbas, Yousuf, Saeed Anwar, Saleem Malik, Asif Iqbal and Majid Khan (last two battters: statistical record does not do justice to their talent)

He looked good in the second innings, undone by reverse swing by Rabada
 
AZulfi said:
Babar is an Ijaz Ahmed-level test batsman

It will be unfair to compare Babar with Pakistan’s premier test batsmen over the years, the likes of Miandad, Younis, Inzi, Hanif Mohammad, Zaheer Abbas, Yousuf, Saeed Anwar, Saleem Malik, Asif Iqbal and Majid Khan (last two battters: statistical record does not do justice to their talent)

He looked good in the second innings, undone by reverse swing by Rabada
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He is surely a lot better than the likes of Saleem Malik and Asif Iqbal. He just needs a big innings to get back his confidence and he will surely score big runs soon.
 
hassan918 said:
He is surely a lot better than the likes of Saleem Malik and Asif Iqbal. He just needs a big innings to get back his confidence and he will surely score big runs soon.
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Asif Iqbal was known as the man of crisis. Often came into bat with Pak 3-4 down for not many.

Saleem Malik used to score difficult runs in tough conditions such as India and England

His (2nd innings) 237 vs Australia was one of his finest knocks

 
AZulfi said:
Asif Iqbal was known as the man of crisis. Often came into bat with Pak 3-4 down for not many.

Saleem Malik used to score difficult runs in tough conditions such as India and England

His (2nd innings) 237 vs Australia was one of his finest knocks

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Correction: Malik’s record against India was modest but he did average 66.50 in 13 tests in England
 
When Babar Azam started out, he was remarkably consistent. Many believed that with more experience, he would evolve into a more aggressive player. But over time, the opposite happened.

The common justification has been that others around him weren’t reliable enough or were even slower than him, forcing him to play the anchor role.

But now, with Pakistan having naturally attacking players like Saim Ayub, Hassan Nawaz, and Shahidzada Farhan in their line up, will Babar play with more freedom?
 
RyanRyan10 said:
When Babar Azam started out, he was remarkably consistent. Many believed that with more experience, he would evolve into a more aggressive player. But over time, the opposite happened.

The common justification has been that others around him weren’t reliable enough or were even slower than him, forcing him to play the anchor role.

But now, with Pakistan having naturally attacking players like Saim Ayub, Hassan Nawaz, and Shahidzada Farhan in their line up, will Babar play with more freedom?
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Now the narrative will change to 'too many attacking players around him'.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
When Babar Azam started out, he was remarkably consistent. Many believed that with more experience, he would evolve into a more aggressive player. But over time, the opposite happened.

The common justification has been that others around him weren’t reliable enough or were even slower than him, forcing him to play the anchor role.

But now, with Pakistan having naturally attacking players like Saim Ayub, Hassan Nawaz, and Shahidzada Farhan in their line up, will Babar play with more freedom?
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Rana said:
Same old issues

Rewarded with T20i selection

He doesn’t have to improve.
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Agha Asia cup strike rate - Less then 100 and thats too after being rewarded with captaincy .

Babar is far better than Agha, but your hatred towards him did not allow you to see the reality.

be consistent with your analysis but when Rizbar discussion came you forget your own view.

:kp
 
Babar showed glimpses of his best with his 50 on a turning and crumbling pitch. With how mediocre our replacements were at the Asia Cup....minnow bashing tullas like Harris, Talat and poultry farm of Saim Ayub showed us the importance of Babar Azam. You cant keep a guy with 31 100s outside the team when replacements are minnow bashing tullas who cant clear the infield against a decent bowler.
 
Devadwal said:
Agha Asia cup strike rate - Less then 100 and thats too after being rewarded with captaincy .

Babar is far better than Agha, but your hatred towards him did not allow you to see the reality.

be consistent with your analysis but when Rizbar discussion came you forget your own view.

:kp
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Why did you quote me when you were replying to Rana? Can't you understand that we are two different individuals?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Babar showed glimpses of his best with his 50 on a turning and crumbling pitch. With how mediocre our replacements were at the Asia Cup....minnow bashing tullas like Harris, Talat and poultry farm of Saim Ayub showed us the importance of Babar Azam. You cant keep a guy with 31 100s outside the team when replacements are minnow bashing tullas who cant clear the infield against a decent bowler.
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did you even watch his dismissal? he looked pretty ordinary playing that ball. Scared like a sheep among wolves. There was nothing in pitch that suggested it was crumbling and SA almost won with 10 wickets chasing 68

Babar has glaring Technical issues playing Spin and those issues combined with his lack of mental strength to soak pressure situations makes him look ordinary and the reason he averages 23 in home tests since Jan 2023 is exactly that

Against Spin he does nt know when to play back or front . a guy who has played 61 plus tests from Asia would generally be confident against off Spinner who does nt bowl other one.
 
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Babar fans are already waiting for Babar to become the most run getter in T20 intenrational history. He is only 8 runs away. Watch out for PR in full flight after that.
 
On Babar Azam’s selection, Mike Hesson said:

“I certainly endorse his selection. With Fakhar Zaman, we sent him back to first-class cricket after a discussion about his focus on the one-day format. He wanted to work on his technique, so we gave him a break from T20s to get things right. I fully supported that decision, and it created an opportunity for another top-order player. It’s a great chance to get Babar back into the squad. He’s likely to bat at number three — a role I’m confident he’ll do well in. His inclusion also gives our squad more flexibility heading into the World Cup.”
 
Ball Blazer said:
On Babar Azam’s selection, Mike Hesson said:

“I certainly endorse his selection. With Fakhar Zaman, we sent him back to first-class cricket after a discussion about his focus on the one-day format. He wanted to work on his technique, so we gave him a break from T20s to get things right. I fully supported that decision, and it created an opportunity for another top-order player. It’s a great chance to get Babar back into the squad. He’s likely to bat at number three — a role I’m confident he’ll do well in. His inclusion also gives our squad more flexibility heading into the World Cup.”
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Flexibility is the operative word here. So he feels Pakistan unit will become more flexible with his inclusion?
 
Flexibility means Babar can move into the opening position again depending on the direction of the political winds within PCT and PCB.
 
The guy has absolutely zero cricketing and batting iq. The fact that he has been easy work for the likes of Pandya and Simon Harmer should tell you he is just about decent but not a world class batsman but more a beneficiary of the low quality batting stocks in Pakistan at the moment.
 
I hope that Babar or his SM team member visits this forum

I think we spend more time thinking about his batting than he himself does :ROFLMAO:

and that's where the problem lies...
 
On a very serious note

He is a very good cricketer. No doubt the best of his Pak generation but talent without work ethics produce no results

I am pretty sure that he has been wronged politically in the dressing room like his predecessors but he needs to block that kind of thinking

He does not have a great T20 game. It's not like as if he leaves the PCT like Amir, he can still have a decent career. He will be served better if he concentrates more on cricket than the politics and marketing.
 
Just watch highlights of his batting from 2016 to 2022 and compare that to his batting in the last 3 years. He has completely declined as a batsman.
 
Savak said:
Just watch highlights of his batting from 2016 to 2022 and compare that to his batting in the last 3 years. He has completely declined as a batsman.
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Cricket skills are very perishable

One has to continue playing regularly to maintain standards

This is where work ethics come into play


It's quite obvious that his agent/SM team has been working harder than him...
 
I just saw highights. Babar's shot was uncharacteristic. Bosch bowls at 145 kph. THat too hard length ball. Babar suddenly tried to play like one of those Pandya like slap shot on the up. That is not his game. If he tries to join the hackathon madness failure will be even more epic. He should stick to what he knows which is wasting 50 balls and scoring a safe 65.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I just saw highights. Babar's shot was uncharacteristic. Bosch bowls at 145 kph. THat too hard length ball. Babar suddenly tried to play like one of those Pandya like slap shot on the up. That is not his game. If he tries to join the hackathon madness failure will be even more epic. He should stick to what he knows which is wasting 50 balls and scoring a safe 65.
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The shot he played tells you what a mentally weak cricketer he is where he is reacting to the outside noise and he is struggling to deal with criticism and doesn't have confidence in his natural game.

World class players know how to deal with pressure and the criticism that comes with a prolonged slump.
 
Mediocre players remain mediocre.

No matter how much you pretend that he is world class.
 
Babar is clearly in two minds right now. You can see he’s trying to adjust his game because the coaches and selectors have told him to play with a higher strike rate, but it’s just not working. That’s not who he is. Babar will always hover around a 130 strike rate, and we should simply accept that and build our T20I setup around his strengths instead of forcing him into something he’s not.

That shot he played today was never part of his game. Like I’ve said before, he should be allowed to play his natural game and take his time to regain form. We’re not winning anyway, and our batting is already at an all-time low, so the priority should be to get RizBar back in form. The management must back Babar properly instead of putting unnecessary pressure on him. They’ve completely messed up his game by trying to turn him into a modern T20 player, which he simply isn’t.

Unfortunately, Pakistan’s talent pool has completely dried up. We’ve stopped producing quality batters and bowlers, and the overall standard is at its lowest point. The biggest mistake we made was breaking up the RizBar opening pair. Ever since fans and clueless analysts started crying about it, our incompetent coaches and management made unnecessary changes, and the batting has further declined from there.

Usman is a poor player who shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as Rizwan. It’s a joke how Hesson, Naqvi, and Aaqib keep picking players who have achieved nothing while sidelining proven performers who’ve actually won us matches. Haris, Usman, Khushdil, and Talat have had more than enough chances; they’re just not international-level players and never will be.

As for Hesson, the sooner he’s gone, the better. The man talks big about modern cricket, but since he’s arrived, our batting has looked worse than ever. Dot balls have increased, players look confused, and there’s zero clarity in roles. Cricket should be played to your available strengths, not to fit some fancy idea of modern T20 when you don’t have the personnel for it.

Here’s the lineup I’d go with based on the talent we actually have:

1- Rizwan
2- Babar
3- Saim
4- Farhan (not ideal, but sadly we don’t have many options) or Fakhar
5- Agha (will perform better once relieved of captaincy duties)
6- Hasan Nawaz
7- Mohammad Nawaz
8- Faheem
9- Afridi
10- Rauf, Wasim Junior or Naseem
11- Sufiyan or Abrar
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I just saw highights. Babar's shot was uncharacteristic. Bosch bowls at 145 kph. THat too hard length ball. Babar suddenly tried to play like one of those Pandya like slap shot on the up. That is not his game. If he tries to join the hackathon madness failure will be even more epic. He should stick to what he knows which is wasting 50 balls and scoring a safe 65.
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Yeah do what Farhan is doing atm...
 
Caved12 said:
Babar is clearly in two minds right now. You can see he’s trying to adjust his game because the coaches and selectors have told him to play with a higher strike rate, but it’s just not working. That’s not who he is. Babar will always hover around a 130 strike rate, and we should simply accept that and build our T20I setup around his strengths instead of forcing him into something he’s not.

That shot he played today was never part of his game. Like I’ve said before, he should be allowed to play his natural game and take his time to regain form. We’re not winning anyway, and our batting is already at an all-time low, so the priority should be to get RizBar back in form. The management must back Babar properly instead of putting unnecessary pressure on him. They’ve completely messed up his game by trying to turn him into a modern T20 player, which he simply isn’t.

Unfortunately, Pakistan’s talent pool has completely dried up. We’ve stopped producing quality batters and bowlers, and the overall standard is at its lowest point. The biggest mistake we made was breaking up the RizBar opening pair. Ever since fans and clueless analysts started crying about it, our incompetent coaches and management made unnecessary changes, and the batting has further declined from there.

Usman is a poor player who shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as Rizwan. It’s a joke how Hesson, Naqvi, and Aaqib keep picking players who have achieved nothing while sidelining proven performers who’ve actually won us matches. Haris, Usman, Khushdil, and Talat have had more than enough chances; they’re just not international-level players and never will be.

As for Hesson, the sooner he’s gone, the better. The man talks big about modern cricket, but since he’s arrived, our batting has looked worse than ever. Dot balls have increased, players look confused, and there’s zero clarity in roles. Cricket should be played to your available strengths, not to fit some fancy idea of modern T20 when you don’t have the personnel for it.

Here’s the lineup I’d go with based on the talent we actually have:

1- Rizwan
2- Babar
3- Saim
4- Farhan (not ideal, but sadly we don’t have many options) or Fakhar
5- Agha (will perform better once relieved of captaincy duties)
6- Hasan Nawaz
7- Mohammad Nawaz
8- Faheem
9- Afridi
10- Rauf, Wasim Junior or Naseem
11- Sufiyan or Abrar
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Top teams have batters operating at 150+ and you want to build a team around someone who can bat at 130?
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Top teams have batters operating at 150+ and you want to build a team around someone who can bat at 130?
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Mention the players in Pakistan who bat at 150+ and are not hacks? Genuine batters?

We all saw what once in a blue moon type players we had earlier..
 
He needs to be removed from t20 cricket
Sent back to domestic to fix his batting
 
He has passed his prime. He is very stubborn.
Things will not come while sitting and doing only net practise and posting PR videos on social media.

You have to work your way out like playing domestic 4 day matches as much as you can. Get some advice from top batsmen and improve fitness. That is only the solution to his problems.


Anyone can see he have no confidence. He is giving his wicket to any xyz bowlers without any hesitation. He can never be a good batsmen. He was above average and now becoming an average player. Maybe he will end up test cricket with 40 average and ODI under 50 average
 
Babar and Rizwan are causing way too many problems for Pakistan cricket on and off the field

They are clearly proving to be serious stumbling blocks because they and their fans are trying their ever best to manipulate the entire system to suit these two.

They need to be kicked out of Pakistan cricket once and for all! I have never felt this serious or angry about Pakistani players in the last 30 years as I have for these two players!
 
LOL... Repeating same post over and over again... Rana bro's obsession is next level
 
BouncerGuy said:
LOL... Repeating same post over and over again... Rana bro's obsession is next level
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I’m sure you guys did an interview of a senior journalist who confirmed Rizwan is a difficult individual to work with?

Did he not confirm that by refusing to sign the central contract?

Enough is enough! These fitnas need to be swatted out!
 
BouncerGuy said:
Mention the players in Pakistan who bat at 150+ and are not hacks? Genuine batters?

We all saw what once in a blue moon type players we had earlier..
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I can name one, but you'll call him a hack. Anyway, I am not going to start a Babar vs XYZ debate here. If anyone feels Babar is the most important batter for Pakistan, that's their choice. But one must understand this format. A strike rate of 130 in this era is below par. Babar may or may not deserve a spot in the lineup but saying that a team should be built around someone who bats slower than what's required is ridiculous. And then there are some of Babar's fans, who have been consistently making excuses for his failures, calling him unlucky for strange reasons. The poster I quoted said he got out because he tried to do something different. But what was he supposed to do while batting in the PP with a required rate of 10+?
 
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I can name one, but you'll call him a hack. Anyway, I am not going to start a Babar vs XYZ debate here. If anyone feels Babar is the most important batter for Pakistan, that's their choice. But one must understand this format. A strike rate of 130 in this era is below par. Babar may or may not deserve a spot in the lineup but saying that a team should be built around someone who bats slower than what's required is ridiculous. And then there are some of Babar's fans, who have been consistently making excuses for his failures, calling him unlucky for strange reasons. The poster I quoted said he got out because he tried to do something different. But what was he supposed to do while batting in the PP with a required rate of 10+?
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Babar is trying to be a six hitter rather than focus on clearing the circle and getting runs through proper cricketing shots. This SR conversation has consumed him but instead of improving himself within his skill-set like actual world-class players would, he has proceeded to copy others and is now neither here nor there.
 
Caved12 said:
Babar is clearly in two minds right now. You can see he’s trying to adjust his game because the coaches and selectors have told him to play with a higher strike rate, but it’s just not working. That’s not who he is. Babar will always hover around a 130 strike rate, and we should simply accept that and build our T20I setup around his strengths instead of forcing him into something he’s not.

That shot he played today was never part of his game. Like I’ve said before, he should be allowed to play his natural game and take his time to regain form. We’re not winning anyway, and our batting is already at an all-time low, so the priority should be to get RizBar back in form. The management must back Babar properly instead of putting unnecessary pressure on him. They’ve completely messed up his game by trying to turn him into a modern T20 player, which he simply isn’t.

Unfortunately, Pakistan’s talent pool has completely dried up. We’ve stopped producing quality batters and bowlers, and the overall standard is at its lowest point. The biggest mistake we made was breaking up the RizBar opening pair. Ever since fans and clueless analysts started crying about it, our incompetent coaches and management made unnecessary changes, and the batting has further declined from there.

Usman is a poor player who shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as Rizwan. It’s a joke how Hesson, Naqvi, and Aaqib keep picking players who have achieved nothing while sidelining proven performers who’ve actually won us matches. Haris, Usman, Khushdil, and Talat have had more than enough chances; they’re just not international-level players and never will be.

As for Hesson, the sooner he’s gone, the better. The man talks big about modern cricket, but since he’s arrived, our batting has looked worse than ever. Dot balls have increased, players look confused, and there’s zero clarity in roles. Cricket should be played to your available strengths, not to fit some fancy idea of modern T20 when you don’t have the personnel for it.

Here’s the lineup I’d go with based on the talent we actually have:

1- Rizwan
2- Babar
3- Saim
4- Farhan (not ideal, but sadly we don’t have many options) or Fakhar
5- Agha (will perform better once relieved of captaincy duties)
6- Hasan Nawaz
7- Mohammad Nawaz
8- Faheem
9- Afridi
10- Rauf, Wasim Junior or Naseem
11- Sufiyan or Abrar
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Right.

So your solution is to keep with Rizbar opening pair that FAILED at every major tournament.
 
After seeing Pak performances over the last few months, one thing is pretty clear..Every Pakistan players are either less equal or worse than Babar azam..Babar azam is not a world class t20 player but atleast he is a crowd puller which PCB needed at this moment..At this moment PCB need Babar more than anyone else for their revenue irrespective of whether he perform or not..PCB should now allow Babar to bat in his old way so that some records he can make by statpadding..other batsmen in the team are even not capable of that..He can be low Quality version of 90's Sachin if he is allowed to play in his own way at this moment..
 
I do think they need someone to ensure that wickets don't fall though. Babar might or might not be the same person. If he can bat at a strike rate of 130-135 where the batsmen around him play their shots. That could mean that Pakistan do end up posting a somewhat decent total.
 
chakdeindian said:
Something is better than nothing..You cannot make horse out of a donkey..And when you have all donkeys, just bet on the donkey which runs slow but long untill you find your own horses .
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And that's been the attitude taken all along. It's not helped them much either. 4 years down the line, they'll be in the same boat where the other teams would have become more professional well on their way to having 3 teams for different formats.
 
And that doesn't mean Babar or whoever gets to eat up 50-60 deliveries. He should be looking to survive till the 14-15th over and making sure the other batsmen get to play their shots. Not eat up three deliveries and then taking a single.
 
There can be only one anchor in T20s, which Farhan has been doing for Pakistan, Babar can't play slow now, he has to go from the first ball which he seems incapable of. It would be better if he opens & Saim comes at 3.
 
The problem with a lot of batsmen like babae is that they get to a 20 off 13 balls and are content to get to 60 off 48. If you get to that shot , even if you are 27 off 22 for instance. The next 15 balls you face you should be scoring 25-28 runs. Not coast it out for 20 runs.
 
It's really sad to see such a downfall of Babar in last 3 years, he is now continuously failing accros all formats. If he doesn't want to play Quaid-e-Azam trophy he can try playing county cricket for 2-3 seasons to improve his game in long formats.

In T20s currently even Mohammad Nawaz is adding more value to the team than Babar
 
Babar Azam, Shaheen, Rizwan, Naseem Shah and maybe in his prime in ODIs format Fakhar- These are the only players who will definitely walk into at least minimum most lower tiered test playing nations. Hassan Nawaz has some potential. That’s about it.

Rest feel like minnow/ associate team players. This is a honest cricket feedback/ perspective with as much non-bias and neutrality as possible.take it for what it is 🙏
 
Local.Dada said:
Babar Azam, Shaheen, Rizwan, Naseem Shah and maybe in his prime in ODIs format Fakhar- These are the only players who will definitely walk into at least minimum most lower tiered test playing nations. Hassan Nawaz has some potential. That’s about it.

Rest feel like minnow/ associate team players. This is a honest cricket feedback/ perspective with as much non-bias and neutrality as possible.take it for what it is 🙏
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And the names you have mentioned will end up with the most international caps across formats. This is how it should be. It is true that our best is way below the world's best. No wonder we struggle against all good sides across formats.
 
Babar now has World record for getting the highest number of runs in T20 internationals. He has overhauled Rohit Sharma to make this achievement in the last T20 match played against South Africa in Lahore. Congrats Babar for this milestone! Babar has made to this milestone in fewer matches than Rohit Sharma.
 
maha3us said:
Babar now has World record for getting the highest number of runs in T20 internationals. He has overhauled Rohit Sharma to make this achievement in the last T20 match played against South Africa in Lahore. Congrats Babar for this milestone! Babar has made to this milestone in fewer matches than Rohit Sharma.
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Congrats!

P.S. Fewer matches than Rohit, but far more deliveries as evident by both of their strike rates.
 
Local.Dada said:
Babar Azam, Shaheen, Rizwan, Naseem Shah and maybe in his prime in ODIs format Fakhar- These are the only players who will definitely walk into at least minimum most lower tiered test playing nations. Hassan Nawaz has some potential. That’s about it.

Rest feel like minnow/ associate team players. This is a honest cricket feedback/ perspective with as much non-bias and neutrality as possible.take it for what it is 🙏
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If you think a 35 averaging Naseem Shah will walk into other teams, you are delusional.
 
Sachin fan said:
If you think a 35 averaging Naseem Shah will walk into other teams, you are delusional.
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It’s not about stats, lower tier teams lack 140+ bowlers with skills to swing the ball both ways , who can bat a bit and are safe athletic fielders. His potential is sky high.
 
maha3us said:
Babar now has World record for getting the highest number of runs in T20 internationals. He has overhauled Rohit Sharma to make this achievement in the last T20 match played against South Africa in Lahore. Congrats Babar for this milestone! Babar has made to this milestone in fewer matches than Rohit Sharma.
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No need to play revisionist history. Babar was good. Anybody who saw the 2019 World Cup saw the clutch knocks he played in that tournament. In test cricket he was also improving considerably 2018 onwards. So it's not that he isn't talented or gifted, he just isn't an elite/top-tier batsman on-par with the best in the world. At one point it seemed it he could be but that time has since long passed.

The best players come out of bad patches as even better players. There was a time a few years ago when Joe Root couldn't get past fifty. He would score a half-century and get out, and look where he is now.

Babar's problem is not that he doesn't have the shots or the ability, he just doesn't have it mentally. And his attitude and approach to the game is also questionable. Because he hasn't made any serious effort to improve his game. You can never progress forward if you have this kind of outlook towards the sport. And where Babar is today is a reflection of that.
 
Local.Dada said:
Babar Azam, Shaheen, Rizwan, Naseem Shah and maybe in his prime in ODIs format Fakhar- These are the only players who will definitely walk into at least minimum most lower tiered test playing nations. Hassan Nawaz has some potential. That’s about it.

Rest feel like minnow/ associate team players. This is a honest cricket feedback/ perspective with as much non-bias and neutrality as possible.take it for what it is 🙏
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You're being too nice. I would have stopped at Shaheen and Fakhar.

Saim has potential but hasn't archived anything so far.
 
The way Babar made Saim play in 2nd T20i and is playing Salman today with his running between the wickets. Truly shows his command and experience on the game. Babar is a gem and needs to be playing until he wants.
 
Aaqib Javed's comments on why he recently dropping Babar Azam from T20I:

"When Babar Azam was dropped, the Pakistan team management decided whether he should take a rest or be dropped from T20s. He was then brought back and performed well. So, do you think the individual criticism was directed at you, but you aren't getting the credit now, even though Aaqib Javed was part of the selection committee that brought Babar back?

Look, these are the perceptions of common people, right? They have their own opinions. But a person should understand that the position you hold is what receives the criticism. Yes, the position is criticized. The credit, however, always belongs to the position, while the criticism comes from the management. Yes, I know this very well. Correct. This is what I tell the team: you can keep your performance. Base it on whether you will be praised or criticized. Absolutely. If you perform well, people will not criticize you. They won't. Okay? If you give a bad performance, they will criticize you. Of course, they will.

So, look, regarding Babar, does it matter if we single out one player or target any other? Many times, when people are removed from T20s, I don't know if I'm getting personal with him. I'm not personal; I just look at the format. I only get personal with the format. I don't have a problem with him in Tests. I only dislike an individual in the T20 format. And by the way, who am I to select or drop someone individually? Of course, the entire committee makes the decision to drop a player. It is the committee's decision. Yes, exactly. I haven't reached a level where I would individually favor or go against any player."
 
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