What on earth is India up to in Kashmir?

[cricketjoshila]

I know that Doklam is a disputed territory claimed by both China and Bhutan. The whole point of gaining control of Doklam was that China wants to construct roads there which would give them access to the Siliguri Corridor and thus break Northeast India from the rest of India. China is interfering in Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh.

The whole point is to have strategic advantage. Right now India controls all the dominant heights.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UK issues travel advisory for Kashmir, asking its citizens to avoid traveling to India-administered Kashmir. <br><br>Germany and Australia also issued travel advisory for Kashmir. <a href="https://t.co/hAVhJpuPRf">pic.twitter.com/hAVhJpuPRf</a></p>— F. Jeffery (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1157622258430611461?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[WebGuru]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] [MENTION=132658]m.shah[/MENTION] stay safe brothers things are not looking good for Kashmiris. Situation on LoC is also getting worse

 

[xbronze]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] [MENTION=132658]m.shah[/MENTION] stay safe brothers things are not looking good for Kashmiris. Situation on LoC is also getting worse

I just hope sanity prevails and nothing untoward happens to vitiate the situation even further

 

[m.shah]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] [MENTION=132658]m.shah[/MENTION] stay safe brothers things are not looking good for Kashmiris. Situation on LoC is also getting worse

Thanks Brother.. It just seems India is getting desperate. I have never seen such things happen in my life. Everyone is scared. Which sane govt does this

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Except China never signed an agreement with the Uighurs promising them autonomy, China just annexed Xinjiang the way India forcefully annexed some of their other territories such as Hyderabad.

All of Pakistan is Indian territory, it was only carved out of India in 1947. If India had any conviction as a nation they would have reclaimed all of Pakistan rather than bullying the population of Kashmir. But perhaps that prospect is a bit too daunting, and only China is capable of such decisive action in the name of their country.

 

[rhony]

All of Pakistan is Indian territory, it was only carved out of India in 1947. If India had any conviction as a nation they would have reclaimed all of Pakistan rather than bullying the population of Kashmir. But perhaps that prospect is a bit too daunting, and only China is capable of such decisive action in the name of their country.

China can't handle Taiwan. Forget a land of tigers like Pakistan. The only way to tame a tiger is some kind of debt trap. Fear never works. Also Kashmir is easy to handle and strategically important.

 

[rhony]

Thanks Brother.. It just seems India is getting desperate. I have never seen such things happen in my life. Everyone is scared. Which sane govt does this

Most of the Kashmiris didn't want status quo. They needed change. This is what change looks like. And it hasn't even started yet.

 

[Madplayer]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] [MENTION=132658]m.shah[/MENTION] stay safe brothers things are not looking good for Kashmiris. Situation on LoC is also getting worse

Insha Allah this too shall pass. We have stood firm till now. We will keep doing it no matter how much the cruel occupier tries to break our spirit .

 

[m.shah]

Most of the Kashmiris didn't want status quo. They needed change. This is what change looks like. And it hasn't even started yet.

If most Kashmiris dont want a change and have legal reason to resist change then who are to enforce the change on us? No matter what India does this time that doesn't change the reality bro.

 

[xbronze]

China can't handle Taiwan. Forget a land of tigers like Pakistan. The only way to tame a tiger is some kind of debt trap. Fear never works. Also Kashmir is easy to handle and strategically important.

While I can understand your passion, I do have to point out that Pakistan was comprehensively defeated on the battlefield by the Indian Military in 1971 and 93000 Pakistani military men were taken as Prisoners of War. Pakistan was cut into two pieces by the Indian Military in that war.

Again in Kargil, Pakistani forces were defeated.

I totally agree with you about the prospect of a debt trap for Pakistan. The economic situation of Pakistan is very precarious indeed.

 

[rhony]

If most Kashmiris dont want a change and have legal reason to resist change then who are to enforce the change on us? No matter what India does this time that doesn't change the reality bro.

Kashmiris want change. They didn't like the status quo that existed for decades. There seems to be political will this time around. There will be some pain but change is inevitable.

 

[Pakistanian]

While I can understand your passion, I do have to point out that Pakistan was comprehensively defeated on the battlefield by the Indian Military in 1971 and 93000 Pakistani military men were taken as Prisoners of War. Pakistan was cut into two pieces by the Indian Military in that war.

Again in Kargil, Pakistani forces were defeated.

I totally agree with you about the prospect of a debt trap for Pakistan. The economic situation of Pakistan is very precarious indeed.

You guys are still gloating over a fluke win that happened almost 50 years ago Neither Pakistn nor India are the same countries they were in 1971 but I get that old people love talking about their time like it's relevant.
The real credit goes to the Bengalis and the only reason why they succeeded is cause of geography. Most wars in the world and throughout history have been determined by geography and distance from Pakistan. As for the prisoners of wars, only around 40,000 of them were Pakistani soldiers while the other 50,000 were innocent Pakistani civilians living in East Pakistan.

 

[Pakistanian]

Kashmiris want change. They didn't like the status quo that existed for decades. There seems to be political will this time around. There will be some pain but change is inevitable.

This is not the change they wanted lmaoo, y'all are so dumb.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You guys are still gloating over a fluke win that happened almost 50 years ago Neither Pakistn nor India are the same countries they were in 1971 but I get that old people love talking about their time like it's relevant.
The real credit goes to the Bengalis and the only reason why they succeeded is cause of geography. Most wars in the world and throughout history have been determined by geography and distance from Pakistan. As for the prisoners of wars, only around 40,000 of them were Pakistani soldiers while the other 50,000 were innocent Pakistani civilians living in East Pakistan.

They refer to 1971 constantly because it is the only war they will ever win. That too only happened because they stepped in to take advantage of a stranded Pakistan which could never fight a war on the other side of India in Bengal.

Of course this has little relevance to Kashmir which would actually be a war between two countries sharing common ground, but that is exactly why the Bengal intervention will always be the fall back. Because they don't have the stones to fight a real war in reality.

 

[Lonewarrior]

While I can understand your passion, I do have to point out that Pakistan was comprehensively defeated on the battlefield by the Indian Military in 1971 and 93000 Pakistani military men were taken as Prisoners of War. Pakistan was cut into two pieces by the Indian Military in that war.

Again in Kargil, Pakistani forces were defeated.

I totally agree with you about the prospect of a debt trap for Pakistan. The economic situation of Pakistan is very precarious indeed.

i am observing your crappy posts from last 48 hours, kindly tell me the source of this crap in Bold.

 

[WebGuru]

Thanks Brother.. It just seems India is getting desperate. I have never seen such things happen in my life. Everyone is scared. Which sane govt does this

Insha Allah this too shall pass. We have stood firm till now. We will keep doing it no matter how much the cruel occupier tries to break our spirit .

There is always light at the end of the tunnel inshALLAH things will get better...

 

[xbronze]

They refer to 1971 constantly because it is the only war they will ever win. That too only happened because they stepped in to take advantage of a stranded Pakistan which could never fight a war on the other side of India in Bengal.

Of course this has little relevance to Kashmir which would actually be a war between two countries sharing common ground, but that is exactly why the Bengal intervention will always be the fall back. Because they don't have the stones to fight a real war in reality.

Hey, don't be so quick to overlook the Kargil war that Pakistan lost decisively to India, despite being the aggressor and having occupied vantage positions on the hilltop while the Indian soldiers had to climb uphill. And Kargil war did not happen 50 years ago, if memory serves right.

Here are snippets on the Kargil war from Wikipedia:

"The cause of the war was the infiltration of Pakistani soldiers disguised as Kashmiri militants into positions on the Indian side of the LOC, which serves as the de facto border between the two states. During the initial stages of the war, Pakistan blamed the fighting entirely on independent Kashmiri insurgents, but documents left behind by casualties and later statements by Pakistan's Prime Minister and Chief of Army Staff showed involvement of Pakistani paramilitary forces, led by General Ashraf Rashid"

Result: Decisive Indian victory. India regains possession of Kargil

Territorial changes: None

 

[Mian]

Hey, don't be so quick to overlook the Kargil war that Pakistan lost decisively to India, despite being the aggressor and having occupied vantage positions on the hilltop while the Indian soldiers had to climb uphill. And Kargil war did not happen 50 years ago, if memory serves right.

Here are snippets on the Kargil war from Wikipedia:

"The cause of the war was the infiltration of Pakistani soldiers disguised as Kashmiri militants into positions on the Indian side of the LOC, which serves as the de facto border between the two states. During the initial stages of the war, Pakistan blamed the fighting entirely on independent Kashmiri insurgents, but documents left behind by casualties and later statements by Pakistan's Prime Minister and Chief of Army Staff showed involvement of Pakistani paramilitary forces, led by General Ashraf Rashid"

Result: Decisive Indian victory. India regains possession of Kargil

Territorial changes: None

If 20 years ago Kargil battle is being called a war than let's go to a most recent 'battle' where supa power india was humiliated we call it '27 feb' btw how was the tea? any clip of those 300 trees you killed calling them terrorists or a f16 that your failed air force claimed to have taken down?

First supa power air force failed to hit the target then they were given their back in hand by PAF the very next day

 

[slipcatch]

Hey, don't be so quick to overlook the Kargil war that Pakistan lost decisively to India, despite being the aggressor and having occupied vantage positions on the hilltop while the Indian soldiers had to climb uphill. And Kargil war did not happen 50 years ago, if memory serves right.

Here are snippets on the Kargil war from Wikipedia:

"The cause of the war was the infiltration of Pakistani soldiers disguised as Kashmiri militants into positions on the Indian side of the LOC, which serves as the de facto border between the two states. During the initial stages of the war, Pakistan blamed the fighting entirely on independent Kashmiri insurgents, but documents left behind by casualties and later statements by Pakistan's Prime Minister and Chief of Army Staff showed involvement of Pakistani paramilitary forces, led by General Ashraf Rashid"

Result: Decisive Indian victory. India regains possession of Kargil

Territorial changes: None

20 years ago.

Move on.

Your Army and your government is the aggressor now.

You forgot to mention India's big $$ bill.

Congrates you won a point on chest thumping on a forum.

About territorial change. lol

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

the thing is once pak went nuclear, ind cannot do nothing to pak this really hurts them.

Chest thumping against a smaller nation,

 

[xbronze]

While I can understand your passion, I do have to point out that Pakistan was comprehensively defeated on the battlefield by the Indian Military in 1971 and 93000 Pakistani military men were taken as Prisoners of War. Pakistan was cut into two pieces by the Indian Military in that war.

Again in Kargil, Pakistani forces were defeated.

I totally agree with you about the prospect of a debt trap for Pakistan. The economic situation of Pakistan is very precarious indeed.

20 years ago.

Move on.

Your Army and your government is the aggressor now.

You forgot to mention India's big $$ bill.

Congrates you won a point on chest thumping on a forum.

About territorial change. lol

That stuff about Territorial change is not something I made up. That is copy/pasted from the Wikipedia page on 'Kargil War'.

 

[xbronze]

While I can understand your passion, I do have to point out that Pakistan was comprehensively defeated on the battlefield by the Indian Military in 1971 and 93000 Pakistani military men were taken as Prisoners of War. Pakistan was cut into two pieces by the Indian Military in that war.

Again in Kargil, Pakistani forces were defeated.

I totally agree with you about the prospect of a debt trap for Pakistan. The economic situation of Pakistan is very precarious indeed.

i am observing your crappy posts from last 48 hours, kindly tell me the source of this crap in Bold.

I totally understand your indignation and confusion. You likely grew up reading in your history books that Pakistan won the 1971 war with India. I am told that in the history books in Pakistan, Pakistan never loses any war. It is always India who lost all wars.

Anyways here are a few links:

1. Clip of a neutral (Non Indian / Non Pakistani) International TV reporter from a Prisoner of War camp in East Pakistan in 1971, where surrendered Pakistani soldiers are being guarded by Indian soldiers. The reporter's opening line is about the 93000 Pakistani POW servicemen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDjfq-CQULk

2. From Aljazeera, an article written by the daughter of a Pakistani POW recounting the heartbreaking saga of that war. She mentions the less than welcome reception the 93000 Pakistani POWs including her father, received on their return to Pakistan. link below.

Relevant excerpt from her article:

'Then, in February 1974, along with 93,000 other POWs who had been held by India, he was repatriated to Pakistan. But the country they returned to did not extend the welcome they had expected. The hostility was palpable. Pakistan had been shamed by its surrender and the reports of rape and mass murder attributed to some of its troops. Civilians would often question returning soldiers about their involvement in such atrocities.'

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/05/150513130813859.html

 

[xbronze]

the thing is once pak went nuclear, ind cannot do nothing to pak this really hurts them.

Chest thumping against a smaller nation,

That bolded portion, that mindset, is what emboldened the great Pakistani General Musharraf to embark upon the Kargil misadventure. As it turned out the fantasy that 'India can do nothing' crashed when Pakistan went on to lose the Kargil misadventure and had to beat a retreat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

 

[xbronze]

If 20 years ago Kargil battle is being called a war than let's go to a most recent 'battle' where supa power india was humiliated we call it '27 feb' btw how was the tea? any clip of those 300 trees you killed calling them terrorists or a f16 that your failed air force claimed to have taken down?

First supa power air force failed to hit the target then they were given their back in hand by PAF the very next day

Here copy/pasting from the Wikipedia page on 'Kargil War':

'The Kargil War, also known as the Kargil conflict,[note (I)] was an armed conflict between India and Pakistan that took place between May and July 1999 in the Kargil district of Kashmir and elsewhere along the Line of Control (LOC)....

The cause of the war was the infiltration of Pakistani soldiers disguised as Kashmiri militants into positions on the Indian side of the LOC, which serves as the de facto border between the two states. During the initial stages of the war, Pakistan blamed the fighting entirely on independent Kashmiri insurgents, but documents left behind by casualties and later statements by Pakistan's Prime Minister and Chief of Army Staff showed involvement of Pakistani paramilitary forces, led by General Ashraf Rashid.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

 

[Green Patriot]

I am fervently praying for the Kashmiris.
Seriously worried for them.Social Media seems to be in a frenzy.Things don't seem good at all.

 

[Lonewarrior]

I totally understand your indignation and confusion. You likely grew up reading in your history books that Pakistan won the 1971 war with India. I am told that in the history books in Pakistan, Pakistan never loses any war. It is always India who lost all wars.

Anyways here are a few links:

1. Clip of a neutral (Non Indian / Non Pakistani) International TV reporter from a Prisoner of War camp in East Pakistan in 1971, where surrendered Pakistani soldiers are being guarded by Indian soldiers. The reporter's opening line is about the 93000 Pakistani POW servicemen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDjfq-CQULk

2. From Aljazeera, an article written by the daughter of a Pakistani POW recounting the heartbreaking saga of that war. She mentions the less than welcome reception the 93000 Pakistani POWs including her father, received on their return to Pakistan. link below.

Relevant excerpt from her article:

'Then, in February 1974, along with 93,000 other POWs who had been held by India, he was repatriated to Pakistan. But the country they returned to did not extend the welcome they had expected. The hostility was palpable. Pakistan had been shamed by its surrender and the reports of rape and mass murder attributed to some of its troops. Civilians would often question returning soldiers about their involvement in such atrocities.'

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/05/150513130813859.html

no, pakistan lost all wars with india.
again, wheres the figure of 93,000 pakistani soldiers comes from ? the video you posted is not about 93000 soldiers , but PoW.
do you want to say pakistani soldiers figure were 93,000 in BD ?

 

[Lonewarrior]

and no matter what, MiGs will always be our bunny.. be it 21 or 29.

1999-

2019-

 

[Pakpak]

no, pakistan lost all wars with india.
again, wheres the figure of 93,000 pakistani soldiers comes from ? the video you posted is not about 93000 soldiers , but PoW.
do you want to say pakistani soldiers figure were 93,000 in BD ?

What they don't tell you only 30,000 were fighting men. The rest were civilians.

Big whoop having 4 times their number and beating 30,000 with no air force and 30,000 who were engaged in an insurgency. The Western front even then we held very well and in the Kashmir region carried out a few good counters.

Like I said. This 'new' member is only good for bringing up OBL or posting bakwaas

 

[Lonewarrior]

Goodluck to India ...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">آج کشمیر کا بچہ بچہ آزادی کے نعرے بلند کر رہا ہے . <a href="https://t.co/vYAC6bgZjp">pic.twitter.com/vYAC6bgZjp</a></p>— Syed Ali Geelani (@sageelani) <a href="https://twitter.com/sageelani/status/1156290915742420993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Lonewarrior]

What they don't tell you only 30,000 were fighting men. The rest were civilians.

Big whoop having 4 times their number and beating 30,000 with no air force and 30,000 who were engaged in an insurgency. The Western front even then we held very well and in the Kashmir region carried out a few good counters.

Like I said. This 'new' member is only good for bringing up OBL or posting bakwaas

I know, he deliberately didnt post the actual figure, thres no record of 93,000 soldiers as PoW. Soldiers were 25k to 30k.
maybe, backstabbing is also called "bravery" and "winning the art of war" in indian history books.

 

[Lonewarrior]

[MENTION=140457]xbronze[/MENTION]

never underestimate your enemy

mind you, we dont take our enemy as weak, we know its 4x strong. its you who always think we are weak, and we know you gonna do the same mistake again.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hey, don't be so quick to overlook the Kargil war that Pakistan lost decisively to India, despite being the aggressor and having occupied vantage positions on the hilltop while the Indian soldiers had to climb uphill. And Kargil war did not happen 50 years ago, if memory serves right.

Here are snippets on the Kargil war from Wikipedia:

"The cause of the war was the infiltration of Pakistani soldiers disguised as Kashmiri militants into positions on the Indian side of the LOC, which serves as the de facto border between the two states. During the initial stages of the war, Pakistan blamed the fighting entirely on independent Kashmiri insurgents, but documents left behind by casualties and later statements by Pakistan's Prime Minister and Chief of Army Staff showed involvement of Pakistani paramilitary forces, led by General Ashraf Rashid"

Result: Decisive Indian victory. India regains possession of Kargil

Territorial changes: None

Kargil War Pakistan was winning comfortably until Clinton intervened to force Pakistan to withdraw from positions they had won. Your wikipedia articles mean jack, the site can be altered by anyone, and we all know which country has the most active troll bots in cyberspace.

 

[Pakpak]

Kargil War Pakistan was winning comfortably until Clinton intervened to force Pakistan to withdraw from positions they had won. Your wikipedia articles mean jack, the site can be altered by anyone, and we all know which country has the most active troll bots in cyberspace.

Wikipedia is run by Indians. The Feb incident I had to put a complaint to include a separate page for downing of Indian plane as the Indians kept removing it. There were many pages which I complained to be edited where Indians kept on putting as Azk as POK lol. Pathetic nation.

 

[SakunaPataka]

Kargil War Pakistan was winning comfortably until Clinton intervened to force Pakistan to withdraw from positions they had won. Your wikipedia articles mean jack, the site can be altered by anyone, and we all know which country has the most active troll bots in cyberspace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeeXGmC0vaI

 

[xbronze]

I am fervently praying for the Kashmiris.
Seriously worried for them.Social Media seems to be in a frenzy.Things don't seem good at all.

Agree that social media seems to be in a boiling frenzy. However try as I did I am unable to find information about what exactly is going on, or what this frenzy is supposed to lead to next.

I hope this is all some hype and nothing tragic actually happens.

 

[xbronze]

Kargil War Pakistan was winning comfortably until Clinton intervened to force Pakistan to withdraw from positions they had won. Your wikipedia articles mean jack, the site can be altered by anyone, and we all know which country has the most active troll bots in cyberspace.

Okay, go right ahead and alter the wikipedia page on Kargil war to state that Pakistan was victorious.

This myth that anyone can simply go and update a wikipedia page is just that. A myth.

 

[xbronze]

Kargil War Pakistan was winning comfortably until Clinton intervened to force Pakistan to withdraw from positions they had won. Your wikipedia articles mean jack, the site can be altered by anyone, and we all know which country has the most active troll bots in cyberspace.

During 1971 war also Pakistan was supposed to be winning comfortably and Pakistani people were cheering on the streets until a day before the Pakistani Army general surrendered, because Radio Pakistan was declaring great 'victories' from the war front (Indian Punjab has fallen to Pakistan Army today, the besieged Indian Army is just about to surrender to the Pakistan Army in a matter of days, etc).

When BBC radio broke the news of Pakistan Army General AAK Niazi having surrendered to the Indian Army, there was utter disbelief and a massive outcry in Pakistan. The explanation given to the Pakistani public was that the Pakistan military decided to surrender in the interest of peace and to preserve human life.

 

[xbronze]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This tweet must be taken as an SOS (Save Our Souls) message to all Muslims living on this planet. If we all die and you kept quite you will be answerable to Allah the Magnificent. Indians are about to launch the biggest genocide in the history of Mankind. May Allah protect us.</p>— Syed Ali Geelani (@sageelani) <a href="https://twitter.com/sageelani/status/1157651337498320896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I won't be surprised if all the nations of the ummah impose sanctions/blockade on India in response to this tweet.

Given Pakistan's tall diplomatic standing and how well Pakistan has cornered India around the Kashmir issue on the world stage, I am sure that all Arab and Islamic states of the Ummah shall also withdraw their ambassadors from India with immediate effect, in response to this tweet.

Great diplomatic victory for Pakistan...this tweet.

 

[Green Patriot]

Agree that social media seems to be in a boiling frenzy. However try as I did I am unable to find information about what exactly is going on, or what this frenzy is supposed to lead to next.

I hope this is all some hype and nothing tragic actually happens.

I sincerely hope the same.The civilians dont deserve this.People are going on about the Indian troops brought in and shellings and skirmishes and preparations for a mass genocide etc etc.
But this is social media,which thrives off the creation of hue and cry so we cant be sure about what is accurate and what is fabricated. Only the actual residents can provide a proper picture.
Nevertheless i hope it leads to nothing,for the sake of the innocent people there.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I won't be surprised if all the nations of the ummah impose sanctions/blockade on India in response to this tweet.

Given Pakistan's tall diplomatic standing and how well Pakistan has cornered India around the Kashmir issue on the world stage, I am sure that all Arab and Islamic states of the Ummah shall also withdraw their ambassadors from India with immediate effect, in response to this tweet.

Great diplomatic victory for Pakistan...this tweet.

I have a terrible feeling this SOS will fall on deaf ears, I mean Palestinians aka ARABS have not had their call for help heard by rest of the muslim world, so what chance do converts of the sub continent have ?.. This is just sad

On the contrary

I feel another Arab country may give Modi another highest civilian honour ..

 

[Lonewarrior]

I won't be surprised if all the nations of the ummah impose sanctions/blockade on India in response to this tweet.

Given Pakistan's tall diplomatic standing and how well Pakistan has cornered India around the Kashmir issue on the world stage, I am sure that all Arab and Islamic states of the Ummah shall also withdraw their ambassadors from India with immediate effect, in response to this tweet.

Great diplomatic victory for Pakistan...this tweet.

pakistan hearing is enough for kashmir ... 'Pakistan will provide moral, and diplomatic support to Kashmiris ..

 

[Romali_rotti]

'Pakistan will provide moral, and diplomatic support to Kashmiris ..

Yes and we have seen how that moral and diplomatic support have been getting those Kashmiris killed for years and years >

 

[Hornbill]

I won't be surprised if all the nations of the ummah impose sanctions/blockade on India in response to this tweet.

Given Pakistan's tall diplomatic standing and how well Pakistan has cornered India around the Kashmir issue on the world stage, I am sure that all Arab and Islamic states of the Ummah shall also withdraw their ambassadors from India with immediate effect, in response to this tweet.

Great diplomatic victory for Pakistan...this tweet.

GCC concerned over Kashmir situation
https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/gcc-concerned-over-kashmir-situation/

 

[Lonewarrior]

Yes and we have seen how that moral and diplomatic support have been getting those Kashmiris killed for years and years >

no matter what, pakistan wont stop ... >

 

[Lonewarrior]

I have a terrible feeling this SOS will fall on deaf ears, I mean Palestinians aka ARABS have not had their call for help heard by rest of the muslim world, so what chance do converts of the sub continent have ?.. This is just sad

On the contrary

I feel another Arab country may give Modi another highest civilian honour ..

the thing is we are not Arabs ,,, we are pakistanis ...

 

[xbronze]

I won't be surprised if all the nations of the ummah impose sanctions/blockade on India in response to this tweet.

Given Pakistan's tall diplomatic standing and how well Pakistan has cornered India around the Kashmir issue on the world stage, I am sure that all Arab and Islamic states of the Ummah shall also withdraw their ambassadors from India with immediate effect, in response to this tweet.

Great diplomatic victory for Pakistan...this tweet.

GCC concerned over Kashmir situation
https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/gcc-concerned-over-kashmir-situation/

This GCC in the link above is a group of local Kashmiri people 'Group of concerned citizens', and not THE GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council - comprising of Arab states). If all Geelani ji's tweet has achieved is getting a statement from some local club in Kashmir, then my fear of all Arab/muslim nations stampeding to sanction India and withdraw ambassadors in view of Geelani ji's tweet, is yet to materialize.

May be the Arab states are just busy preparing to bestow the Indian PM with yet another of their highest national honor.

 

[xbronze]

[MENTION=140457]xbronze[/MENTION]

never underestimate your enemy

mind you, we dont take our enemy as weak, we know its 4x strong. its you who always think we are weak, and we know you gonna do the same mistake again.

gonna do the same mistake again...like cut Pakistan into two yet again, like 1971?

 

[Lonewarrior]

[MENTION=140457]xbronze[/MENTION]

never underestimate your enemy

mind you, we dont take our enemy as weak, we know its 4x strong. its you who always think we are weak, and we know you gonna do the same mistake again.

gonna do the same mistake again...like cut Pakistan into two yet again, like 1971?

yes thats what i meant, see you proves my point ...

 

[Romali_rotti]

no matter what, pakistan wont stop ... >

Indians can play this game all day, till the end of time .

Pakistan is heading into bankruptcy,

Kashmiris will be pawns in this game..

 

[Romali_rotti]

the thing is we are not Arabs ,,, we are pakistanis ...

Yeah I know, which plays right into India's hand, no one takes Pakistan with any seriousness in the international arena. Had it been the Arab countries, it would hold more weight

 

[m.shah]

Agree that social media seems to be in a boiling frenzy. However try as I did I am unable to find information about what exactly is going on, or what this frenzy is supposed to lead to next.

I hope this is all some hype and nothing tragic actually happens.

When the governor, DCs dont have any clue what is going on what info common masses have. Even the police and army dont know anything they are just being told to get ready for the situation which could be worse than burhan wave and multiply by ten times. Pcrs are set up, medical control rooms are set up, leaves are cancelled to docs, police men. I had an interaction with DC he told me we don't know anything we are just following orders. The only men who know what us going on and who are giving orders are Modi, Amit Shah, Ajit Doval. And Ajit Doval was in kashmir few days ago after that he geld meeting with Amit Shah and Modi.
We are being mentally tortured. Even Our Kids are afraid of this situation. Hopefully sanity will prevail

 

[MenInG]

Thousands of people, including tourists and Hindu pilgrims, are leaving Indian-administered Kashmir after local officials issued a security alert.

Indian authorities warned of a "terror threat" against Hindu pilgrims heading to the Amarnath shrine.

Militants backed by Pakistan were planning an attack on the annual pilgrimage, officials have said.

India accuses Pakistan of backing militant groups based in Kashmir, something denied by Pakistan.

The 45-day pilgrimage began on 1 July and about 300,000 pilgrims have visited the cave shrine, located high in the Himalayan mountains, according to AP news agency.

Kashmir's government has advised them to leave the area "immediately", causing panic as visitors scramble to organise transport.

Around 20,000 Hindu pilgrims and Indian tourists, as well as more than 200,000 labourers, were in the process of leaving the region, a local government official told Reuters news agency.

"In the interest of safety and security of the tourists and Amarnath Yatris [pilgrims], it is advised that they may curtail their stay in the [Kashmir] valley immediately," Kashmir's home secretary, Shaleen Kabra, said in a statement.

Security measures, including the deployment of 10,000 extra troops, were implemented by the Indian government ahead of the Hindu pilgrimage.

India has long accused Pakistan of funding armed militants in Kashmir, a disputed territory claimed by both countries.

Militants have targeted Hindu pilgrims in the region before, most recently in 2017, when seven people were killed in an attack.

On Saturday, Britain and Germany warned their citizens against travelling to Kashmir.

Both India and Pakistan claim all of Muslim-majority territory of Kashmir, but control only parts of it.


Media captionKashmir: History of the conflict
The countries have been at war four times since the partition following the end of British rule in 1947, and Kashmir, located mostly in the Himalayan mountains, has been a key factor in the conflicts.

Tensions resurfaced in February when Pakistan-based militants killed 40 Indian troops in a suicide attack in Pulwama, provoking military clashes between the countries.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49222571

 

[xbronze]

When the governor, DCs dont have any clue what is going on what info common masses have. Even the police and army dont know anything they are just being told to get ready for the situation which could be worse than burhan wave and multiply by ten times. Pcrs are set up, medical control rooms are set up, leaves are cancelled to docs, police men. I had an interaction with DC he told me we don't know anything we are just following orders. The only men who know what us going on and who are giving orders are Modi, Amit Shah, Ajit Doval. And Ajit Doval was in kashmir few days ago after that he geld meeting with Amit Shah and Modi.
We are being mentally tortured. Even Our Kids are afraid of this situation. Hopefully sanity will prevail

Extremely stressful indeed. Hopefully you, your family, and friends can hunker down indoors and see these days through until some semblance of normalcy returns.

The problem is not knowing what is going to happen, when and for how long, and what form it may take, before normalcy returns.

 

[m.shah]

Thousands of people, including tourists and Hindu pilgrims, are leaving Indian-administered Kashmir after local officials issued a security alert.

Indian authorities warned of a "terror threat" against Hindu pilgrims heading to the Amarnath shrine.

Militants backed by Pakistan were planning an attack on the annual pilgrimage, officials have said.

India accuses Pakistan of backing militant groups based in Kashmir, something denied by Pakistan.

The 45-day pilgrimage began on 1 July and about 300,000 pilgrims have visited the cave shrine, located high in the Himalayan mountains, according to AP news agency.

Kashmir's government has advised them to leave the area "immediately", causing panic as visitors scramble to organise transport.

Around 20,000 Hindu pilgrims and Indian tourists, as well as more than 200,000 labourers, were in the process of leaving the region, a local government official told Reuters news agency.

"In the interest of safety and security of the tourists and Amarnath Yatris [pilgrims], it is advised that they may curtail their stay in the [Kashmir] valley immediately," Kashmir's home secretary, Shaleen Kabra, said in a statement.

Security measures, including the deployment of 10,000 extra troops, were implemented by the Indian government ahead of the Hindu pilgrimage.

India has long accused Pakistan of funding armed militants in Kashmir, a disputed territory claimed by both countries.

Militants have targeted Hindu pilgrims in the region before, most recently in 2017, when seven people were killed in an attack.

On Saturday, Britain and Germany warned their citizens against travelling to Kashmir.

Both India and Pakistan claim all of Muslim-majority territory of Kashmir, but control only parts of it.


Media captionKashmir: History of the conflict
The countries have been at war four times since the partition following the end of British rule in 1947, and Kashmir, located mostly in the Himalayan mountains, has been a key factor in the conflicts.

Tensions resurfaced in February when Pakistan-based militants killed 40 Indian troops in a suicide attack in Pulwama, provoking military clashes between the countries.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49222571

This time history should be written correctly unlike so called exodus of pandits in 1990 where exactly same orders were issued by then gov and no kashmiri forced pandit brothers to leave. But every one is blaming us.This time also doors of kashmiri are open to every tourist, yatri. We haven't forced anyone to leave in fact seeing videos on social sites people are being forced by security to leave while they are crying.

 

[TOP SPINNER_01]

So what exactly is happening in Kashmir? Could it be a recipe for change in the region, probably for good? An act of desperation? Linked with Afghanistan? Or local Indian politics at play?

 

[Kriketer]

Indians and their pandits reference to Kashmir always gives me a chuckle. I still wonder if there were only pandits there before on the lovely mountains of kashmir, or were there Hindus as well? They keep doing pandits Kashmir, pandits Kashmir and just toss random numbers like it's a bollywood flick fact. Pandits moved out or ran away whatever, they left Kashmir and Kashmir was all dominant by Muslims for centuries and partition was based on religion hence northern Bharat was to become Pakistan including Kashmir. Pretty idiotic when they question common sense, why not try claiming the rest of Pakistan since it was all Bharat and once occupied by Hindus, my bad I mean pandits pandits &#55357;&#56834;

 

[Akki malhotra]

India offers pakistan Army to take over dead bodies after foiled bid

The Indian Army has offered the Pakistan Army to take back the dead bodies of intruders killed during a failed infiltration bid by Pakistan's Border Action Team (BAT) on a forward post along the Line of Control (LoC) in Keran sector of Jammu and Kashmir.

The Pakistan Army has been offered to approach with a white flag and take over the dead bodies for last rites, but was yet to respond on Sunday morning.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...an-after-foiled-infiltration-bid-2257389.html

 

[Akki malhotra]

Great gesture by indian army. So professional. Same thing we did during kargil war as well. Martyred should be respected. Hopefully pakistani army give them honour.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Something major about to happen tomorrow Aug 5 2019 in parliament.
I believe article 35A and 370 shall be removed and state will be split into 3 with more MLA segments under Jammu region. With so much rain and chaos in Mumbai hardly getting time to concentrate on other stuff these days!

 

[Lonewarrior]

The Indian Army has offered the Pakistan Army to take back the dead bodies of intruders killed during a failed infiltration bid by Pakistan's Border Action Team (BAT) on a forward post along the Line of Control (LoC) in Keran sector of Jammu and Kashmir.

The Pakistan Army has been offered to approach with a white flag and take over the dead bodies for last rites, but was yet to respond on Sunday morning.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...an-after-foiled-infiltration-bid-2257389.html

Great gesture by indian army. So professional. Same thing we did during kargil war as well. Martyred should be respected. Hopefully pakistani army give them honour.

Army rejects India's accusation of cross-LoC incursion as mere propaganda

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/pakistan-army-denies-indian-claim-of-cross-loc-incursion/articleshow/70521485.cms


why are the pp allow fake news and propaganda ? [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] [MENTION=96179]Viper[/MENTION]

 

[Lonewarrior]

Indians can play this game all day, till the end of time .

Pakistan is heading into bankruptcy,

Kashmiris will be pawns in this game..

Yeah I know, which plays right into India's hand, no one takes Pakistan with any seriousness in the international arena. Had it been the Arab countries, it would hold more weight

play the game all you want, we dont give a damn. we screw the US in last 18 years, so who the hell you are ?
we know who have won in Afghanistan and who gt kicked out from the end game.
we are here to stay, and we will make sure to give 1000 cuts ...

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update from Kashmir<br><br>Authorities asking hotel managements to ask guests to leave latest by Monday morning. <br><br>They have been told even if they don’t have travel tickets the government will take care of their travel from Srinagar airport <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndiaToday</a></p>— Abhishek Bhalla (@AbhishekBhalla7) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbhishekBhalla7/status/1157961112157118465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Akki malhotra]

Army rejects India's accusation of cross-LoC incursion as mere propaganda

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/pakistan-army-denies-indian-claim-of-cross-loc-incursion/articleshow/70521485.cms


why are the pp allow fake news and propaganda ? [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] [MENTION=96179]Viper[/MENTION]

How is it fake news. Kindly explain? Just because pakistani army refused to take bodies? Learn from India how we fight for kulbhushan yadav and how we took pride for Mr abhinandan who proudly went to Pakistan to kill the enemy and returned alive after having sip of tea.
It's not fake news, just because your army disown them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

During 1971 war also Pakistan was supposed to be winning comfortably and Pakistani people were cheering on the streets until a day before the Pakistani Army general surrendered, because Radio Pakistan was declaring great 'victories' from the war front (Indian Punjab has fallen to Pakistan Army today, the besieged Indian Army is just about to surrender to the Pakistan Army in a matter of days, etc).

When BBC radio broke the news of Pakistan Army General AAK Niazi having surrendered to the Indian Army, there was utter disbelief and a massive outcry in Pakistan. The explanation given to the Pakistani public was that the Pakistan military decided to surrender in the interest of peace and to preserve human life.

You can keep feeding your public whatever makes you feel happy, but deep down they all know that every day Pakistan is in existence is a defeat for India. Two separate countries were carved out of your nation, and this great war machine you talk about has never been able to reclaim it. The Brits ruled a larger unified India than Indians themselves. What went wrong?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

There is another rumour circulating on internet that Hurriyat Leader Yasin Malik died in Tihar Jail and that is why Indian government is doing all this.

 

[Akki malhotra]

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There is another rumour circulating on internet that Hurriyat Leader Yasin Malik died in Tihar Jail and that is why Indian government is doing all this.

Stay safe bro.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

There is another rumour circulating on internet that Hurriyat Leader Yasin Malik died in Tihar Jail and that is why Indian government is doing all this.

Bhai, what is your take on state being split into 3 parts and removal of article 3XX ?

 

[Runner Up]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The OIC reiterates its call upon the international community to rise up to its responsibility for the peaceful resolution of Jammu and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> dispute through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite in accordance with relevant UN Security Council resolutions.</p>— OIC (@OIC_OCI) <a href="https://twitter.com/OIC_OCI/status/1157996277843615744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India could impose an indefinite curfew as early as Sunday night, a Kashmir police official told AFP. Locals said they saw large numbers of paramilitary personnel arriving at police stations and unloading sleeping bags outside government facilities. via <a href="https://twitter.com/AFPSouthAsia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AFPSouthAsia</a></p>— Muhammad Ibrahim Qazi (@miqazi) <a href="https://twitter.com/miqazi/status/1158016573661224960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Madplayer]

Rumours so far :

1) Troop mobilization by India is to start a small scale war with Pakistan.

2) Troop mobilization by India is because they want to try and seize territory in AJK.

3) its all because Yaseen Malik is dead.

4) 600 Afghan talibanis have infiltrated into Kashmir.

5) 35A removal has caused all this

6) Trifurcation of state.

7) Indefinite Curfew will be imposed from tomorrow (this is likely to be true)

8) Internet, voice calls etc. All forms of communication will be barred in Kashmir from midnight today. (Likely to actually happen).

9) Indians are planning to get Dhoni killed to raise hue and cry. Dhoni is serving the army in Kashmir these days.

 

[m.shah]

Some media channels are claiming that Yasin Malik has been martyred in Indian jail

 

[Pakpak]

Rumours so far :

1) Troop mobilization by India is to start a small scale war with Pakistan.

2) Troop mobilization by India is because they want to try and seize territory in AJK.

3) its all because Yaseen Malik is dead.

4) 600 Afghan talibanis have infiltrated into Kashmir.

5) 35A removal has caused all this

6) Trifurcation of state.

7) Indefinite Curfew will be imposed from tomorrow (this is likely to be true)

8) Internet, voice calls etc. All forms of communication will be barred in Kashmir from midnight today. (Likely to actually happen).

9) Indians are planning to get Dhoni killed to raise hue and cry. Dhoni is serving the army in Kashmir these days.

If Indians attack AJK I am afraid we will run out of tea to serve them.

 

[Kashmirilion]

Rumours so far :

1) Troop mobilization by India is to start a small scale war with Pakistan.

2) Troop mobilization by India is because they want to try and seize territory in AJK.

3) its all because Yaseen Malik is dead.

4) 600 Afghan talibanis have infiltrated into Kashmir.

5) 35A removal has caused all this

6) Trifurcation of state.

7) Indefinite Curfew will be imposed from tomorrow (this is likely to be true)

8) Internet, voice calls etc. All forms of communication will be barred in Kashmir from midnight today. (Likely to actually happen).

9) Indians are planning to get Dhoni killed to raise hue and cry. Dhoni is serving the army in Kashmir these days.

If yasin Malik is really dead, will there be an uproar the size of which the Indian forces are preparing for?

 

[Pakpak]

His lawyer has confirmed Yasin Malik is NOT dead.

 

[Madplayer]

If yasin Malik is really dead, will there be an uproar the size of which the Indian forces are preparing for?

There could be. He is the founder of JKLF, one of the biggest pro-freedom party alongside Hurriyat conference. However, reports are coming in that Tihar jail authorities have confirmed that he isnt dead.

 

[Kashmirilion]

There could be. He is the founder of JKLF, one of the biggest pro-freedom party alongside Hurriyat conference. However, reports are coming in that Tihar jail authorities have confirmed that he isnt dead.

In Sha Allah hope so.

May Allah keep you all safe from the opressor and may Allah make it easy for my brother's and sisters. The opressor eventually Fails and the opressed succeed. May Allah give the people of Kashmir freedom and victory.

Ameen

 

[m.shah]

In Sha Allah hope so.

May Allah keep you all safe from the opressor and may Allah make it easy for my brother's and sisters. The opressor eventually Fails and the opressed succeed. May Allah give the people of Kashmir freedom and victory.

Ameen

Ameen

 

[Madplayer]

In Sha Allah hope so.

May Allah keep you all safe from the opressor and may Allah make it easy for my brother's and sisters. The opressor eventually Fails and the opressed succeed. May Allah give the people of Kashmir freedom and victory.

Ameen

Ameen.

Thanks a lot.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

There is a parlimentary meet at 8 am ist tomorrow. 2 important resolutions to be passed ...